Naruto Things in fanfics that doesn't make sense to me.

[Amberion]

I have been reading alot of fanfics, and there are a few things that people write that just don't make any sense to me.

Feel free to coment on these things since I might have missed things or of you think diffirently. Or mabey even add your own things that raises your eyebrows in a WTF manner.

1. Mega Anti-pervert.

I have read more fics where Hinata is a pervert then Naruto. I somehow understand where people get he dislikes perverts.. Thing is that I see it that he only dislike them when it interferse with his training. Heck, if he was so against perverts, would he actually use his Oiroke no Jutsu?
Wasn't it also said in I think the data book that Naruto had picked up some of Jirayas less desirable traits?

2. To dangerous to tell.

This one really bugs me. It's when the Yondaime is his father and the reason he wasn't told was that it to protect him from assassins. And where only supposed to be told when he was able to protect himself.

Only time I can understand that is if it where told to him but no one else. It's not like Naruto has a mind link with yondaimes enemies.

Also, if it was so dangerous for Naruto, wouldn't the same apply to Sasuke?
the Uchiha is the number 1 kleptomanic clan in the elemental countries. People should hate them alot for stealing their jutsus. Yet after the Uchiha massacre Sasuke is allowed to live by himself in the small city called Uchiha district.

I know Sasuke is a Uchiha and that pretty much makes him a god among men, but that is only after the Sharingan has manifested.

3. Chakra control.

Many but not all state the reason Naruto will never have perfect chakra control is because he has to much chakra. I know, some state that it's Kyuubis chakra that interferce wich makes sense to me. Yet most use the too much chakra reason.

I know that Naruto has alot more chakra then most, but thing is that people that use this actually says something like this: "Using random numbers" If you have 10 chakra your control would be 90, if you increase your chakra to 30 your control would drop to 70 and so on.

My thoughts that has been, wouldn't Sakura lose her control once she starts building up any kind of reservs since the amount of chakra you have relates to the control?

[EDIT ]4. Weights.

Everyone and their mother seems to want to put weights on all characters. Thing is we have seen fast people, mabey not Gai fast, but still fast people that don't use weights.

First problem I see with this is that while they are wearing weights they are not doing any special training. And since you want to become fast you need to have special training so the muscels don't just become big. Since that would instead slow people down.

My biggest issue though is with gravity seals though. This is a seal that effects the entire body. Anyone with abit of knowledge about gravity knows that a human body is not made to live under anything else besides the gravity we have. Change in gravity can cause anything from crappy blood-circulation to weakening the bones in the body.

Meh, it's not like it's a mather of life or death these things. Just that they have been on my mind for a while.

 

[Aensland]

My biggest issue though is with gravity seals though. This is a seal that effects the entire body. Anyone with abit of knowledge about gravity knows that a human body is not made to live under anything else besides the gravity we have. Change in gravity can cause anything from crappy blood-circulation to weakening the bones in the body.

Meh, it's not like it's a mather of life or death these things. Just that they have been on my mind for a while.

Blame DBZ <_<

 

[SmacksKiller]

Yeah, but in DBZ they had the excuse that most people who use that system aren't human so...
But I get your point, there's also the problem that people seem to forget, you don't move the same when your lugging a ton at your wrist. The inertia is completly screwed up. You'd need to spend as much, if not more time with your weights of to get used to moving without them.

 

[knight_of_ni]

there is more... a person wearing the weights could hit another person a whole lot harder with the weights on (provided they hit), because of inertia. However if you miss it will take a lot more energy to stop yourself, and correct your stance.

 

[Masderin]

One of my problems with fanfiction is the fact that most fanfics gloss over the Sasuke-Itachi fight. They says its ten years later Naruto is Hokage and Sasuke managed to kill Itachi and come back to Konoha.

I'd rather have some backstory to it. But most fanfic writers can't seem to come up with a plausible way of Sasuke beating up a full-strength Itachi. For the most part they cripple Itachi so much that it's not even a fight anymore, make uber!Sasuke, or have Sasuke kill them both with a surprise jutsu.

I don't blame them as I can't come up with a plausible way of Sasuke beating Itachi. To me it doesn't seem possible unless Sasuke sacrifices himself to do so but I really don't see him doing that as he still has his secondary goal which I fell he'll give more thought when he thinks he's approaching Itachi's level.

 

[GenocideHeart]

as he still has his secondary goal which I fell he'll give more thought when he thinks he's approaching Itachi's level.

The fatal flaw in your logic is that Sasuke is incapable of rational thought. His typical thought process is 'MUST KILL ITACHI. ITACHI KILL MUST. KILL ITACHI MUST!!!! GUARBLEORK!!!!".

His long-term planning is shit, pretty much.

 

[BlackSun]

His long-term planning is shit, pretty much.

So is his short-term planning. Remember the fight against Gaara, when he used a Katon thinking it would be enough to beat Gaara?

 

[Amberion]

One of my problems with fanfiction is the fact that most fanfics gloss over the Sasuke-Itachi fight. They says its ten years later Naruto is Hokage and Sasuke managed to kill Itachi and come back to Konoha.

I'd rather have some backstory to it. But most fanfic writers can't seem to come up with a plausible way of Sasuke beating up a full-strength Itachi. For the most part they cripple Itachi so much that it's not even a fight anymore, make uber!Sasuke, or have Sasuke kill them both with a surprise jutsu.

I don't blame them as I can't come up with a plausible way of Sasuke beating Itachi. To me it doesn't seem possible unless Sasuke sacrifices himself to do so but I really don't see him doing that as he still has his secondary goal which I fell he'll give more thought when he thinks he's approaching Itachi's level.

Yeah, have to agree with you. In alot of fics Itachi is blind as a bat and on his death bed, and still is able to give sasuke a decent fight.


Just thought of another thing that bothers me some. And this have to do with timetravel fics.

In alot of them Naruto has become Hokage/Anbu/jounin. While Sasuke has pretty much destroyed Konoha.

Yet he goes back in time and tries to save Sasuke. One would think someone who has reached a high rank would think of the village foremost and kill Sasuke so to it not even have chance of happening again.

In sacrificing 1 person would increase the odds by alot of Konoha not beeing destroyed, one would think that it was a rather easy choice to make. Living with the blood on your hand of one who you consider your friend is hard though. But it's still a easy choice to make. Sacrificing alot of friends, or only 1.

 

[Demon Eyes Laharl]

The fatal flaw in your logic is that Sasuke is incapable of rational thought. His typical thought process is 'MUST KILL ITACHI. ITACHI KILL MUST. KILL ITACHI MUST!!!! GUARBLEORK!!!!".

His long-term planning is shit, pretty much.

Disagree. He remembers his fan club, and knows that if he finally kills Itachi, he's got a whole village girls enamored by him.

:huh: So... he's either gay, or just really focused on Itachi, so when he's gone... he's gonna rebuild the Uchiha Legacy by making the largest harem in the world.




.... :huh.: I say he's gay. XD

And... even if he is doing the latter.... no one can beat Negi at harem potential.

 

[GenocideHeart]

Disagree. He remembers his fan club, and knows that if he finally kills Itachi, he's got a whole village girls enamored by him.

And if ITACHI kills or just simply castrates him? WHAT THEN?

The most logical thing would be to wait, knock some girls up, get a new clan at least partially running, and THEN, with more experience, go after Itachi.

Not to mention if Pedomaru did take his body, he could forget about the clan. Pedomaru only wants man-ass. YOUNG man-ass.

 

[Demon Eyes Laharl]

And if ITACHI kills or just simply castrates him? WHAT THEN?

The most logical thing would be to wait, knock some girls up, get a new clan at least partially running, and THEN, with more experience, go after Itachi.

Not to mention if Pedomaru did take his body, he could forget about the clan. Pedomaru only wants man-ass. YOUNG man-ass.

Hmmm.... point taken.

Though I just wanted to point out that Sasuke is very arrogant. He thinks he can kill Itachi for some reason, even he was brushed to death lots of times. And with agreeing to be Pedo snake's new bod.... I still dont get that, since I never follow the new Naruto series anymore.

I agree wiht your point that Sasuke doesnt seem to have rationale thought.... but I want to say that its logical for him because he's arrogant enough to think that he's gonna do all that he can because he "deserves" it.

...... but wouldnt it be cool to have him think of revenge later.... and turned to a mega-playboy than a brooding loner? XD

 

[Belgarion213]

3. Chakra control.

Many but not all state the reason Naruto will never have perfect chakra control is because he has to much chakra. I know, some state that it's Kyuubis chakra that interferce wich makes sense to me. Yet most use the too much chakra reason.

I know that Naruto has alot more chakra then most, but thing is that people that use this actually says something like this: "Using random numbers" If you have 10 chakra your control would be 90, if you increase your chakra to 30 your control would drop to 70 and so on.

My thoughts that has been, wouldn't Sakura lose her control once she starts building up any kind of reservs since the amount of chakra you have relates to the control?

I think you misunderstand this point. And wihle true that it is over used, and annoys me, ill lay it out. I think the reason people act as if Naruto's large chakra reserves give him so much problems with control is that he is STARTING to learn control with chakra reserves that are in the upper Juunin range. Sakura started out with minicule chakra reserves, and while she was building them up after she started training with Tsunade, it was still growing so she could keep her control by training. Naruto on the other hand would find it incredibly difficult to get the control over his chakra because he comes at it another way.

Sakura and presumedly Tsunade built their chakra up while learning the near perfect control. In short they went from a small amount of chkara with great chakra conttrol, to large chakra reserves with good control. However Naruto would have to master the massive amounts of chakra that already has.

Am I making sense?

 

[Amberion]

3. Chakra control.

Many but not all state the reason Naruto will never have perfect chakra control is because he has to much chakra. I know, some state that it's Kyuubis chakra that interferce wich makes sense to me. Yet most use the too much chakra reason.

I know that Naruto has alot more chakra then most, but thing is that people that use this actually says something like this: "Using random numbers" If you have 10 chakra your control would be 90, if you increase your chakra to 30 your control would drop to 70 and so on.

My thoughts that has been, wouldn't Sakura lose her control once she starts building up any kind of reservs since the amount of chakra you have relates to the control?

I think you misunderstand this point. And wihle true that it is over used, and annoys me, ill lay it out. I think the reason people act as if Naruto's large chakra reserves give him so much problems with control is that he is STARTING to learn control with chakra reserves that are in the upper Juunin range. Sakura started out with minicule chakra reserves, and while she was building them up after she started training with Tsunade, it was still growing so she could keep her control by training. Naruto on the other hand would find it incredibly difficult to get the control over his chakra because he comes at it another way.

Sakura and presumedly Tsunade built their chakra up while learning the near perfect control. In short they went from a small amount of chkara with great chakra conttrol, to large chakra reserves with good control. However Naruto would have to master the massive amounts of chakra that already has.

Am I making sense?

I know what you say, and at some points I think you are right. But what I said was that authors stated that it was a large chakra pool that made it impossible to have perfect control.


Adressing your other thing about Sakura and Tsunade going from small reservs and thus making it easier to have the control.
To me it makes more sense if it was easier to gain control then to build up the reservs.
It's alot easier learning to control something you have, then get something you don't.

 

[Reozul]

First of all, I utter a preemptive "Sorry" for this post but the you hit harder with weigts than without needs correcting. (My ego and nitpicking mindset is at fault, flame me if you want, but I couldn't resist)

I'll make it quick:

a acceleration
v velocity
f force
t time
m mass
d distance

d= (a/2) t?

leads to t?= 2d/a

since f=m*a

t?=2dm/f and a?=f?/m?

this means v?= a?*t? meaning v?= (2dm/f)*(f?/m?) = 2df/m

E kinetic energy

E = (m/2)*v? = df which is the formula for potential energy

So the enrgy would not be different in either way.

If you talk impulse, then there is a difference

I=(2dfm)^(1/2)

I never understood how to correlate them, but in the case of puncjing someone I think the energy is the one thats important.

 

[Jakkun]

Yes, you are. That's how I always saw the issue.

Weights do work you know. They actually sell training weights for the legs, wrists and chest. What most people tend to forget is that in DBZ, the wrist weights were only like 5 pounds each, and the leg weights were like 25 each. The real weight was on the area that could support the weight, the torso. The system is viable, as long as they do it right and don't go overboard.

The inertia thing is part of the training, which is why it's difficult. Not only do you have to move the weight, you have to stop it as well. Typically the gravity seals either build up slowly so the body can adjust, or only affect the muscles. Hampering the muscles themselves is how to make them improve, it doesn't necessarily have to be from gravity or weights.

The pervert thing is mostly based on when it gets in his way, but he generally doesn't like perverts. That is the reason that he uses Sexy no Jutsu, because he can get his way, and it also embarrasses them. He hasn't really encountered any female perverts that I can remember, so I don't know his thoughts on them.

 

[GenocideHeart]

...

I'd say Sakura is a huge pervert...

 

[Takerial]

Sakura is also a useless pink-haired slut but Naruto doesn't seem to notice...

I think Naruto is just a tad naive with girls.

In answer to being the son of Yondaime thing and not being told. If it's just that then it doesn't flow, but if there is something, such as an inheritance, then it makes more sense to not give it to him yet, otherwise it'd be saying LOOK AT ME! I'M SQUISHY AND FUN TO KILL!

The thing with the Sharigan, is that while most people don't like it, most villages would love to steal and take it in as their own...so Sasuke as more to worry because he's gay than from being an assassin.

Also, for the Chakra Control thing, how about a fun little analogy.

The Logistics behind Sakura, is that she started out with say a dagger...a really really small and useless dagger...that has pink hair. Anyways, she slowly worked up in size of sword, making sure she can weild them. Though considering her training ethics, she should only be at what, a foot long sword now?

Anyways, Naruto on the other hand, has a big freaken ass sword, like clouds. Many low level jutsus require him to use a smaller porition of the sword, but he has trouble controlling it because he continually has to use the huge ass sword. So for him to develop greater control he has to first master the huge ass sword, and kind of work in reverse, building up reference points and the sword.

 

[Mr. Mysterious]

1) 'I HATE ALL PERVERTS!Naruto'

Naruto has been a 'sort of pervert' since pre-TS, and that's pretty much all there is to it.

When Ebisu took him to the Hot Springs to train, Naruto peeked into the women's baths. The 'closet pervert' had to tell him he wouldn't allow 'any shameless acts,' after Naruto thought a really excited 'wow' and clutched at his nose. Naruto's response to Ebisu's comment? 'Shut up... you're the closet pervert.'

What do I get from that? Naruto is at least a little bit of a pervert... and he seems to know and accept it. So he isn't some super 'anti-pervert.' He just likes embarrassing perverts, and hates it when being perverted gets in the way of his training.

Most 'I HATE PERVERTS!Naruto' stories are people implanting their own feelings onto Naruto... it usually also involves lots of Jiraiya bashing, as well. They seem to ignore the fact that Naruto was at least a little perverted, before he ever even met Jiraiya. :huh.:

2) Too Dangerous To Tell

Telling Naruto who his father was could be dangerous to him and the village, if his father was the Yondaime. Iwa may very well come looking for him, at the very least... they could try to kill him, start a war over him, kidnap him to make a weapon like Gaara (which could be used against them), or find some way to release the Kyuubi in Konoha.

Keeping Naruto's parentage a secret, until he's really capable of defending himself isn't a bad idea... :huh.:

Sasuke, and everyone else in Konoha, already knows about his parentage. Plus there hasn't been shown to be much enmity for people copying techniques... any that has is pretty much whining ("Don't copy my techniques, it isn't fair!" is whining, pure and simple). Part of a ninja's job is to be a thief and/or assassin. The Uchiha just take that to an entirely new level, by stealing techniques.

Plus there is the fact that most of the people in the village would likely go to bat for Sasuke. Naruto isn't liked. If a raiding party came in to try to steal Naruto? People might very well just turn a blind eye and let it happen, to get him out of their lives. If a raiding party came in to try to steal Sasuke? I really doubt anyone would turn a blind eye and let it happen.

Their situations are just entirely different, all the way around, and aren't really comparable. :huh.:

3) Chakra Control

I'll call that one bad explanation by the writer.

I think the basic gist of it is that a person who has low chakra will be able to learn control easier than a person with a lot of chakra. Not that they can't reach the same level, just that it would be easier for the person with low chakra.

Think of it like a water hose. If you turn the water on at a trickle, it's going to be easier to put the water exactly where you want it. If you turn it on full blast, you're going to be spraying water all over the place. Eventually you might learn how to block the water and put it where you want it, but it is a whole lot easier to do that with it on a trickle than it is with it on full blast. :sisi:

4) Weights and Gravity Seals

Blah. I have some serious issues with weights.

Specifically when they have someone training Naruto or whoever, and the person hands out weights. Kakashi flat out said it was an old-fashioned method... that means they have got to have another method of training that achieves equal or better results than wearing weights. So why would someone training Naruto hand him weights?!

When Naruto is training by himself, and is going by what he saw Lee do... I have no problem with it. Him not knowing a better training method, and using what he's seen doesn't bother me.

When he has a trainer, especially one who is supposed to be 'uberleetftw!wootyeah!,' or is going by a training program that someone else set up for him... it's highly annoying.

Lee not using this 'better method' suggests that it is either a ninjutsu or a genjutsu, which he has almost no talent for. That's part of the reason I devised the Chakra Gentei no Jutsu I posted in the Jutsu thread over in the Ideas section. It was specifically to provide a training method that is comparable to weights, would work better overall, Lee wouldn't be able to use, and is based on what we've seen and what we know.

But weights in general... blah. That is all.

Now, gravity seals. If they have these, why wasn't it used on Lee instead of weights? That's pretty much all I have to say about that.

This idea annoys me almost as much as weights... it's not so bad when Naruto, or whoever is using it, made the thing themselves. It's not even that bad when he/they had it given to them by someone who kept it secret. But if it's something 'generally known,' then it causes problems... because I ask again, why doesn't Lee use that instead of weights?

Anyway, yeah. That's just my thoughts on the subjects. Take it as you will.

 

[Amberion]

The pervert thing is mostly based on when it gets in his way, but he generally doesn't like perverts. That is the reason that he uses Sexy no Jutsu, because he can get his way, and it also embarrasses them. He hasn't really encountered any female perverts that I can remember, so I don't know his thoughts on them.

One thing to wonder though is why and when he created the jutsu. And where he got the idea from. A chibi Naruto reading Icha Icha makes perfectly good sense to me.
And let's face it, there hasn't been a single boy near his age that wasn't atleast slightly interested in seeing naked girls.

The Logistics behind Sakura, is that she started out with say a dagger...a really really small and useless dagger...that has pink hair. Anyways, she slowly worked up in size of sword, making sure she can weild them. Though considering her training ethics, she should only be at what, a foot long sword now?

Anyways, Naruto on the other hand, has a big freaken ass sword, like clouds. Many low level jutsus require him to use a smaller porition of the sword, but he has trouble controlling it because he continually has to use the huge ass sword. So for him to develop greater control he has to first master the huge ass sword, and kind of work in reverse, building up reference points and the sword.

Even though you have a good analogy, the logic part of my mind still say it's easier to control something you already have then to gain something you don't have.

In answer to being the son of Yondaime thing and not being told. If it's just that then it doesn't flow, but if there is something, such as an inheritance, then it makes more sense to not give it to him yet, otherwise it'd be saying LOOK AT ME! I'M SQUISHY AND FUN TO KILL!

Still so many things that needs to explained though. Even though he has an inheritance, why wasn't Naruto himself told?
Also, it just doesn't make sense to me that in a big ass ninja village that is said to be the greatest, you would be afraid of assassins.

Only times we have seen Konohas defences penetraded was during the chunin exam, and once by cloud. Although cloud didn't really penetrate it since they where invited.

The thing with the Sharigan, is that while most people don't like it, most villages would love to steal and take it in as their own...so Sasuke as more to worry because he's gay than from being an assassin.

Still, even though he wouldn't have to fear assassins as you put it as much, the threat around him would be just as great if not greater then Narutos.

Telling Naruto who his father was could be dangerous to him and the village, if his father was the Yondaime. Iwa may very well come looking for him, at the very least... they could try to kill him, start a war over him, kidnap him to make a weapon like Gaara (which could be used against them), or find some way to release the Kyuubi in Konoha.

Keeping Naruto's parentage a secret, until he's really capable of defending himself isn't a bad idea... dunno.gif

Still why not tell Naruto. From what I have seen he has never let his mouth throw away secrets. Also, Iwa came out short at the war. They lost, true konoha suffered from kyuubi, but it's Konoha is still considered strong. So don't thikn Iwa would go to war. And as you also you pointed out about the kleptomanic clan #1, they are ninjas, taking lifes is part of life they live.

If they wouldn't hold a grudge against people stealing their jutsus, would they really hold a grudge against the son of the man who plade a major part in a war?

Sasuke, and everyone else in Konoha, already knows about his parentage. Plus there hasn't been shown to be much enmity for people copying techniques... any that has is pretty much whining ("Don't copy my techniques, it isn't fair!" is whining, pure and simple). Part of a ninja's job is to be a thief and/or assassin. The Uchiha just take that to an entirely new level, by stealing techniques.

Would not hav been to hard to fake his death though. After the massacre only Itachi know Sasuke was still alive.

Plus there is the fact that most of the people in the village would likely go to bat for Sasuke. Naruto isn't liked. If a raiding party came in to try to steal Naruto? People might very well just turn a blind eye and let it happen, to get him out of their lives. If a raiding party came in to try to steal Sasuke? I really doubt anyone would turn a blind eye and let it happen.

To me in canon he doesn't seem to be hated by the shinobi. Sure he isn't their number #1 favourite guy, but he don't seem to be hated enough for them to ignore another village going in doing something to him.

It seems it's pretty much only the villagers and parents who hates him.

 

[Jakkun]

I disagree that it is easier to learn to use what you already have. That is like putting a baby in a full grown body and expecting it to use it perfectly. Starting with the basics and mastering what you have before moving on is the natural thing for any living thing pretty much. Start as an infant, learn to use the body, and it slowly grows giving you time to adapt. Handing an untrained person a spaceship and saying here you go, master it now, is just not going to happen. They will probably end up mastering it, but not without a lot of screw ups. Building your way up is the preferred method because it is a tried and true method.

 

[drakensis]

The fatal flaw in your logic is that Sasuke is incapable of rational thought. His typical thought process is 'MUST KILL ITACHI. ITACHI KILL MUST. KILL ITACHI MUST!!!! GUARBLEORK!!!!".

Mmm. Yeah. One fanfic I'm rather fond of (and seems to lie abandoned) has a rather interesting question where someone with at least two braincells picks apart Sasuke's approach to teamwork:

ôHaving other people distract me will only hold me back.ö

ôWho on earth told you that?ö

Sasuke looked away, glaring into the forest. ôMy brother.ö

ôAnd you trust him? This man who killed your family, murdered your parents in front of your eyes, you trust his honesty? Hell, you trust his judgement?ö

shortly afterwards, the same character asks each of the genin in Team 7 a question about their goals. I'm sure that you can figure out who got what without my telling you.

ôIs it more important than you be the one to kill your brother, or just that he be dead?ö

ôWhat do you think the Hokage does?ö

ôUchiha... Uchiha Itachi is one of the five most dangerous missing-nins in the world. Someone out to kill a man like that... What do you think that heÆd be more interested in, a pretty face... or a strong kunoichi? An asset or an admirer? A lover... or a partner?ö

 

[Takerial]

The thing with having a lot more power, is that you find it harder to pick up little strands of it.

Like for example, you're using a cup to pick up sand from a container. Now you only want say 10 pebbles. Well if the container only has 20 or so, it's pretty easy. Increase it to say 40 then it gets a little harder. Have about 500 of them in there you have to be incredibly careful.

Now imagine that while you are being very careful and trying to only scoop up 10, someone come and slams your hand so the cup becomes buried in the sand.

That is kind of Naruto's situation.

 

[crazyducke]

i seem to recall reading a fic somewhere that instead of using weights, the training method actually involved a genjutsu that made the brain believe that there was more gravity or some such affecting the muscles and what the brain believes the body adapts...i thought that was a rather ingenius method of approaching that sort of training

 

[nuclear death frog]

4) Weights and Gravity Seals

Blah. I have some serious issues with weights.

Specifically when they have someone training Naruto or whoever, and the person hands out weights. Kakashi flat out said it was an old-fashioned method... that means they have got to have another method of training that achieves equal or better results than wearing weights. So why would someone training Naruto hand him weights?!

Couple things.

#1: You say that more modern training methods work. Fair enough; they might. But they're never shown, so the author would have to make them up, unless they want to use Kishimoto's Part 2 Kage Bunshin Retcon.

#2: Weights work. Old-fashioned? What the fuck does that matter? They get results. Do you think anyone else in the prelims, besides Gaara, could have withstood the full-out no-weights Five Gates assault from Lee?

#3: Kakashi is a moron. His opinions mean precisely jack shit.

 

[Amberion]

Start as an infant, learn to use the body, and it slowly grows giving you time to adapt. Handing an untrained person a spaceship and saying here you go, master it now, is just not going to happen.

As the infant part. Let's say the infant have perfect controll while the grown man don't.
Would the grown man get his control first, or would the infant be grown up before?

Couple things.

#1: You say that more modern training methods work. Fair enough; they might. But they're never shown, so the author would have to make them up, unless they want to use Kishimoto's Part 2 Kage Bunshin Retcon.

#2: Weights work. Old-fashioned? What the fuck does that matter? They get results. Do you think anyone else in the prelims, besides Gaara, could have withstood the full-out no-weights Five Gates assault from Lee?

#3: Kakashi is a moron. His opinions mean precisely jack shit.

One things to point out that not wearing weights works is by the fact that Sasuke got Lee speed in under 1 month during the exams. And nothing points to weights.

The thing with having a lot more power, is that you find it harder to pick up little strands of it.

Like for example, you're using a cup to pick up sand from a container. Now you only want say 10 pebbles. Well if the container only has 20 or so, it's pretty easy. Increase it to say 40 then it gets a little harder. Have about 500 of them in there you have to be incredibly careful.

Now imagine that while you are being very careful and trying to only scoop up 10, someone come and slams your hand so the cup becomes buried in the sand.

That is kind of Naruto's situation.

I don't get the slamming the hand thing and what it has to do with it.

Why what you say is that, the more power you have the harder it is to channel smaller parts of it right?

Converting it to physical strenght I would compare it to someone who is incredibly strong shaking hand with someone. Although he has the power to break the other persons hand, he can still use the correct amount of force for a simple handshake, although his muscles are big.

To me chakra is something that is a part of you, pretty much as a body part.