Naruto Things in fanfics that doesn't make sense to me.

Amberion · Feb 28, 2007

Me bad, I automaticly thought of countries with Ninjas in them.

I doubt people still would come to the conclusion that it is Sasuke. First of he is supposed to be dead, second he doesn't look like an Uchiha. Eye color could be changed by something simple as contacts. Also, atleast ht eimpression I have from Sasuke is that he spent most of his time in the Uchiha district. So not sure people outside of the Uchihas know him vell enough to know his manners.

Meh, guess it is a diffirence of oppinion. To me a child has a right to know who his or her parents are.

I can understand it if he was adopted and they kept it from him since they wanted him to really think they are his parents.

Speculation true, but fairly easy to come to. The Uchiha are the police force, they are the ones who keep other ninjas in line. So I doubt they aren't atleast all above average ninjas once they have the Sharingan.

And unless they stayed home during the war they would have alot of enemies.

Not really, remember he is just a kid. And what a kid thinks is something that would help getting him noticed doesn't need to be that impressive.

Why would yondaime in the first place hide the fact that he was going to have a child? It's not that he knew that the Kyuubi would attack and he would die.

And remember, this would be during peace time. No threats around, or him out on long missions where he wouldn't be able to protect his wife/girlfriend. So people would know he had a child.

Meh, I just don't think he is his son. He probebly will be in canon, just to me it doesn't sound right.

And also, as you think people would think the new guy is Sasuke just because of his mannerism, wouldn't people know Naruto is Yondaimes son because.. well.. he is almost a clone of him?

I can understand if Konoha wouldn't think it since they don't want to beleive it. But if Iwa really hates the Yondaime wouldn't they draw that conclusion?

GenocideHeart · Feb 28, 2007

This is a very good point, actually. Naruto is practically a clone of Yondaime - they look far too much alike for someone who (as Mr. M seems to be convinced) hates Yonny so much to at least not be very suspicious, and him 'OMG BEING RAISED AS AN OUTCAST' wouldn't be a shred of proof. It's called a cover, and anyone who's not completely retarded can at least suspect the presence of one.

And frankly, I don't see Sandaime succeeding in keeping it a secret for over 12 years. His OWN ninja, I could see him managing, if it got out. But foreiign ninja who aren't bloody likely to go about asking permission?

Unless he completely destroyed all proof of the connection (in which case he just shot himself in the ass, because without proof to back it up there's no way the people will believe Naruto is the 4th's son, likeness or not - no matter how much a crotchety old man or two yap about it), something is bound to slip - these are NINJA, for whom stealing information that's supposed to be a secret is an everyday occurrence.

And if despite his efforts, he let the Kyuubi mess slip, I don't see him capable of keeping Naruto being Yonny's son a secret from enemy ninja spies at all. The Hokage can't be everywhere at once, and we've seen how woefully INEPT Anbu are, so I'm not trusting them with confidential documents anytime soon.

12 years are a long time, and if any sort of proof of Naruto being the 4th's son survives, it'll have been found by now. Secrets never remain secrets for long, life itself taught us that - the harder you try to keep a big secret hidden, the faster it will get out, whether you like it or not.

And as mentioned, if Sarutobi is really keeping Naruto's dad's identity a secret until he can defend himself from assassins, then destroying the documents is about the worst thing he can do. It'd mean he canýt present proof anymore about Naruto's nature, and mob mentality will pretty much ensure no one will accept that at face value, barring the enlightened few. So he HAS to keep proof for when he goes public about it. Otherwise, he might as well be spreading a rumor that Naruto is the Lord God himself, and it'll be about as likely to be believed by the 'good' folk of Konoha.

And no, I don't think he can keep those documents protected. He couldn't stop NARUTO from stealing a forbidden scroll containing some of the most important village secrets, you want me to believe he could keep important documents away from really determined spies?

Not to mention that by hiding any info on Naruto's parentage so thoroughly, he'd just make Iwa MORE suspicious. It means there's something to hide. And watever it is, it's probably worth finding out.

At least, that's how a paranoid ninja nation who hates a person who brought untold loss upon them should feel.

(And I won't get on how that reasoning works both ways. You think Iwa nin didn't kill anyone? If there's as much animosity as you imply between the two villages, then Konoha nin would actually KEEP Iwa nin from assassinating Naruto just to rub their noses in it and out of spite. And also because they would what was it Mr. M said? 'Do their job', yeah. If they can do their hob by obeying Hokage's law, they can do their job by keeping assassins from getting him. Demon brat he may be, but the way SOMEONE is presenting things, it's as if Iwa and Konoha hate each other more than Konoha hates Kyuubi... <_< Yeah, not very believable, is it?)

Takerial · Feb 28, 2007

Actually, I believe is Sandaime seriously wanted to keep information hidden, he could very well do it. Of course I seriously don't believe Yondaime is Naruto's father.

I'm thinking, Uncle maybe?

GenocideHeart · Feb 28, 2007

Takerial said:

Given his 'success' in keeping the Kyuubi deal a secret, forgive me for doubting it.

Srsly, if he's that good, why not tell a damn thing and let the secret die with him? Kyuubi can almost pass for a bloodline, anyway - there's weirder shit than fast regen, slitted eyes and berserker rages around. Like say, people with five hearts, immortal bastards, six-armed freaks, guys with two heads, kids who fuse with their dogs in a gigantic two-headed wolf, guys who are a white snake made of snakes inside, people who turned themselves in living puppets...

You're telling me that shutting the FUCK up, carefully keeping an eye on naruto and letting the memories simmer down until Kyuubi's effects could be passed as a bloodline ISN'T doable?

Sorry, given the amount of FUCKING WEIRD I see in Naruto, I'd actually think passing Naruto for someone with a rare, late-blooming bloodline would be easier than pie.

kuopiofi · Feb 28, 2007

:sisi: Planning to write that story GH?

Mr. Mysterious · Feb 28, 2007

GenocideHeart said:

Uh huh, you're right... I'm generalizing... :sisi: Oh, waitaminute... no, I'm not! :blink:

Issue 18.

The guys Naruto took down are the same guys that were with Gatou when he visited Zabuza and Haku, and they were introduced as Gatou's samurai bodyguards. The guy in the coat/hat in that scene, with the 'Crow-like' markings on his eyes? Same guy that killed Inari's dad.

When they're outright said to be samurai, it's a statement of fact... pure and simple. <_<

Amberion said:

May have been. Wasn't said. :huh.:

Amberion said:

How do you figure? Even if they gave him a new haircut, somehow changed his eyecolor, and dyed his hair... his face isn't going to change. I know plenty of people who dye their hair (most right around the time they get a haircut, no less), and two of those wear glasses most of the time. Even when they switch hair colors, get a haircut, drop or add the glasses... I can still tell who they are, almost instantly. And I only actually know one of them beyond having seen them in some of my classes in high school, so it isn't because I know them well.

:huh.:

Amberion said:

Which we have no clue if ninjas even have. The only ninja we've seen with bad eyes wore glasses (Kabuto, can't really think of anyone else at the moment). If anyone else has bad eyes... they haven't made any mention of contacts that I know of, let alone colored ones. If they have contacts, why wouldn't a ninja wear them? Especially the son of a medic nin. :huh.:

You could say it was because he needed to be unassuming, but what about after he was found to be a spy?

Amberion said:

Maybe, maybe not... dunno. But he seemed like a fairly well-adjusted kid before the massacre, so it's presumable that he had some people he associated with during school. :huh.:

Amberion said:

Naruto has a right to know, even if knowing could put his life, and possibly the village, in danger if it gets out? One kid's 'rights' aren't more important than the safety of an entire village. It's cold, but... if I gotta choose between a kid knowing who his parents are and the potential safety of a village... that kid is gonna think he grew out of a rock. :huh.:

Amberion said:

Seems unlikely, at least to me, that the police force would be sent to fight battles in a war. Some of them might, but all of them? I doubt it. May just be me, though.

Amberion said:

Maybe, maybe not... the perspective of a child can be massively skewed. Clapping can seem greatly entertaining to one child, while to another full scale explosions are nothing to even blink at.

Amberion said:

Two words. Iwagakura, Kumogakure.

A pregnant woman is an easy target... keep it secret until after the birth, and things are a lot safer for your mate and your child. That's my initial thoughts, anyway. I could probably come up with a number of other reasons, but that would be my main one. Then Naruto is born, they put a demon in his stomach, and voila... everything goes to hell.

Amberion said:

It was? Did they say when the war with Iwa ended? I know the conflict that required an 'alliance' with Kumo had been ongoing for 'many years,' according to Neji, at the time Hinata just turned three... if 'many' is more than three, then it would have been ongoing before Naruto was born. I would certainly think 'many' would be more than three, but that could just be me. :huh.:

Amberion said:

Certain people keep saying Naruto is 'a clone of the Yondaime,' and a few add 'almost.' I'm looking at pictures of them side by side, and while they do have some similarities, Naruto is not a 'clone' of the Yondaime. Even saying he is 'almost a clone' is grossly overstating the case... if they were standing side by side it likely wouldn't be hard to come to the conclusion that they were related, but that's about as far as I'd be willing to give on that point.

Then again, it likely wouldn't be too hard to come to the same conclusion with Naruto standing beside Ino.

The biggest similarities between Naruto and the Yondaime are their hairstyle (something easily changed), and their hair and eye color (there are two blonde Yamanaka, and one for sure has blue eyes). They have similar but different eye shapes (Naruto's eyes are bigger and more 'rounded'), and Naruto's nose is shaped differently than the Yondaime's. Their faces are also somewhat similar, but not the same. It's not like you could see a picture of one or the other and get them mixed up, or even come close to getting them mixed up.

Not to mention that people often change quite a bit from childhood to adulthood. As a child, the Yondaime looks kinda... girly, to be honest with you.

Amberion said:

That assumes they even know anything about Naruto in the first place... but keeping the information hidden in the event they come looking for a way at revenge is a good idea.

And consider this... would Konoha trample all over the son of their 'greatest ninja?' Even if Iwa thought it, one look at how Konoha treats Naruto could be more than enough to make them think otherwise. Keeping Naruto's parentage a secret, if that is what was done, could actually help protect him doubly so, in that regard. They might think it was a cover, but a little observation would pretty much blow that out of the water.

But like I said, that assumes they even know, in the first place. Because hey, Konoha knew all about Gaara being the jinchuuriki of the Ichibi, right? And they knew all about Kumo's Nibi jinchuuriki, too, right? <_<

Not telling Naruto, or anyone else, seems more like a preventative measure.

GenocideHeart said:

That assumes that anyone knew, other than certain 'key people.' A number of people, apparently, knew about the Kyuubi, because they were present when it happened. This could, however, be an entirely different situation.

GenocideHeart said:

Maybe, maybe not.

GenocideHeart said:

Naruto hit him with an unexpected 'pervert destroyer' technique. Something that, seemingly, no other ninja has been ingenious enough to come up with anything comparable... and wouldn't be likely to use, if he/she had (how often has Naruto used it in a serious battle, when he created it?).

GenocideHeart said:

Orphaned in the Kyuubi attack. Mother gave birth at midwife's home (pick random dead woman who could conceivably be claimed to be a midwife), but died during. Father unknown, mother's remains unrecognizable. Midwife died when home was destroyed. Child lucky enough to have survived.

Not all that hard to make it believable, in light of what had just happened.

GenocideHeart said:

Again, if they even knew. Not telling anyone seems like it would be more of a preventative measure, than something done in direct result of Iwa finding out. <_<

GenocideHeart said:

Between the villages? I pretty much said it was all aimed at the Yondaime, and that was pretty much confirmed in the Kakashi Gaiden... and it's not so much hate as it is hate and fear. Iwa nin were told to flee from Konoha's Yellow Flash, if they saw him.

Both sides likely have losses, maybe even considerable ones, but Iwa had a flee on sight order out for the Yondaime. Think about that a minute. If their instructors were telling their nin to run like hell if you see this guy, then do you think they don't have a major mad on for him?

GenocideHeart said:

It's not their job unless they were ordered to keep him safe. Their job is to protect Konoha and it's citizens, and do as ordered... but if they think Naruto is the demon fox they could potentially justify doing nothing by rationalizing in their minds that the 'demon fox' isn't actually a citizen of Konoha. Add in a lack of orders to keep him safe, and it isn't their job... at least in their minds.

They could also 'slip' and fail to notice, just like some ninjas 'slipped' and told. There is a big difference between not protecting Naruto when they weren't told to and committing treason, by starting a civil war.

GenocideHeart said:

No, I said Iwa hates/fears the Yondaime. Not that Konoha hates Iwa or vice versa, that's pretty much all your assumption.

But I'm done with this. We're arguing theoreticals of theoreticals here, and getting nowhere at light speed. If Naruto's father is the Yondaime, would Iwa hate the man enough to try to get at his family? Would the other ninja protect Naruto? Would the Yondaime try to keep it a secret? If he did, who would he tell?

I mean blah... if you make Naruto the Yondaime's son, it wouldn't be hard to justify either one. It's up to the author to decide, and either scenario isn't hard to justify... I just don't think not telling Naruto is a horrible storyline. :huh.:

Either way, I'm done.

GenocideHeart · Feb 28, 2007

Because ruffians with a sword, back between the Sengoku anf Meiji era, TOTALLY didn't pass themselves for samurai. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Oh wait, they did. Very, very often. Which is precisely the reason the samurai class's reputation took a nosedive wround that period. Too many people who claimed to be samurai, but were in actuality barely-trained barbarians, ruffians and bandits who used the samurai glint to do what they wanted, like kill steal rape...

Why do you think the Meiji restoration's government outlawed swords for all but policemen and the Shinsengumi? Because they were tired of having to hear the complaints of the general populace whenever 'samurai' committing crimes using the advantage of being armed as opposed to their victims being UNarmed. They didn't really CARE what happened to the populace (the Meiji government was less than virtuous, frankly), but the ruffians with swords were committing crimes without permission, essentially, and that was something the government saw as a personal insult. Cue the outlawing of swords and other lethal weapons in public.

And that's bloody historical FACT. There's not much to say. Just because you SAY you are a samurai, or your employer says so, doesn't mean you ARE. Any schmuck with a sword can bully a bunch of unarmed, fearful people. But most actual samura had training and discipline in considerable amounts, and would've slashed the stuffings out of the ruffian pretenders. Heck, a single Shinsengumi could usually take entire bands on and win. The skill difference was just that ungodly huge between an actual samurai and a wannabe with a sword.

Just clarifying.

EDIT:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Oh, and this is priceless. So you are saying Iwa wouldn't stoop so low as to, y'know, use seduction against a notorious pervert, right? Kage or not Kage, the Third was almost as infamous a pervert as Jiraiya is, so I highly, highly doubt that tidbit isn't public knowledge. And even Jiraiya got distracted when a hot girl started clinging to him, and if it hadn't been for his danger sense reacting and the Emoduck showing up when he did, Narito woulda been caught and Kyuubi extracted before he could say 'oh fuck'.

So yes, seduction with real women CAN work even on high level ninja. And I refuse to think all kunoichi in the goddamn world are puritans. There's few things more effective than spreading your legs when you are a woman and want information. And even assuming the Hokage has the common sense to not let anything slip, I doubt he'd be in the mood to check for traps and/or drugs when he's... busy. Men don't react very smart when all their blood is going to the wrong head, and the fact the Oiroke KOd him means Sarutobi hasn't quite reached the peace of his senses.

So yeah... all they really need is to get a competent enough kunoichi in his bed. I don't see him, or any male worth of the name, faring well against that type of spying at all. <_<

Mr. Mysterious · Feb 28, 2007

Look at the panel, before you keep on trying to act like I don't know what I'm talking about, please. No one is talking or thinking these people are samurai. It's a statement of narration/definitive information, provided as a label. It's in a square box placed under them, not a speech or thought bubble.

They are samurai because the author said they were samurai, not because they claimed it or Gatou claimed it.

And for that matter? What the hell does the Meiji era of Japan have to do with the Naruto era of the Hidden Countries?

GenocideHeart · Feb 28, 2007

Mr. Mysterious said:

Where do you think the inspiration for ninja and samurai comes from? Hmm? From Mobile, Alabama, circa 1975? Or maybe from, y'know, the general time period that INSPIRED ALL THOSE STORIES TO BEGIN WITH.

Mr. Mysterious · Feb 28, 2007

Great. What's your point?

Ninja jumping around using chakra to stick to stuff and send out energy blasts/use techniques that scream 'I'M COMIN' TO KILL YER ASS!' is really what real ninjas were all about. :sisi: Or... wait... no.

This is getting ridiculous. The guys were samurai because the author said they were samurai, and real samurai and ninja obviously have jack all to do with it. Some of the basic ideas might be in there, but overall? No... they're a guideline, and that's about it. No amount of sarcasm and mockery is going to change that.

GenocideHeart · Mar 1, 2007

Mr. Mysterious said:

Ninja were also credited in the past with magical powers. They obviously didn't have any, but to the uncultured eye, their feats of skill looked like magic. That's where the inspiration for chakra and shit comes from.

In fact, some of the big names among ninja (as big as you got when you were an assassin and spy, anyway) could spit fire. TODAY; we know it was a simple trick wiith flammable substances and a flame source, but back then, what do you think it was reported as?

Thought so.

It's more how the period was portrayed. There were the noble samurai, and there were the ruffians. Never mind that real life samurai tended to be arrogant pricks, and real life ninja were CANNON FODDER; with the rare exceptions of people like Hanzo Hattori, Kotaro Fuma, Sasuke Sarutobi and the other Sanada Braves... They were foot soldiers who usually got killed first in battle, and who usually were at most disposable spies/assassins who often committed suicide after a successful assassination to prevent capture, and/or seductresses who simply spread their legs to get what they needed (in the kunoichi's case).

Nothing as idealized as what we see in literature, which is what Naruto obviously takes inspiration from. And in literature, bad samurai weren't samurai - they were either ruffians or evil assassins with no morals, who strayed from the path of bushido and lost the right to call themselves samurai.

Why do you think Kenshin is referred to not as SAMURAI, but as RUROUNI which loosely means 'wanderer' or 'vagabond', and never calls himself 'samurai'? He doesn't view himself as a samurai anymore, because his deeds made him stray from the samurai's path.

Gatoo's men can be called samurai all you want, but are little more than thugs with swords. It's pretty simple, really.

But I can see that you'll just stick to your views and dismiss whatever I say, so no point in bothering anymore. See ya.

Mr. Mysterious · Mar 1, 2007

Different world, different rules. That is all. So yeah... see ya.

Masderin · Mar 1, 2007

Since we are on the whole Yondaime as Naruto's father thing. One aspect of these fanfics I don't like is that if the Yondaime has a personal taijutsu style that no one else used. And somehow Gai knows this style. Taking nothing away from Gai but when the Yondaime died Gai must have been between 14-17 at most. And I don't see him knowing the style in a believable way no matter how much of Green Beast he is.

Basically, I realistically believe the only jutsus that Naruto will get that the Yondaime knew are Rasengan, Toad-Summoning and maybe Hiraishin. And Hiraishin itself I don't find to likely as I doubt Naruto could recreate it otherwise some other ninja would have done it by now. That's all for now.

Mr. Mysterious · Mar 1, 2007

Honestly, I doubt he would have even needed a 'special' style. I can't say he wouldn't have had one, and he would have obviously needed to know how to fight... but Hiraishin no Jutsu pretty much negates the need for a special 'style.'

If you've got Hiraishin no Jutsu, Rasengan, the basic three, decent taijutsu, and the speed not to get killed... you're pretty damned unstoppable. :huh.:

Just makes the mind boggle at the idea of Naruto with Hiraishin no Jutsu and Kage Bunshin in a target rich environment. Orange blurs appearing out of nowhere, slitting a throat, only to vanish and reappear somewhere else... he'd be worse than the Yondaime. :sisi:

GenocideHeart · Mar 1, 2007

Mr. Mysterious said:

Until someone has the common sense to just use a Doton and make a fucking stone wall rise in the path of whoever's zipping around.

The basic fatal weakness of high speed jutsu: the opponent can't react to it... and neither can you. So if something comes up and you are moving too fast for your brain to catch up, you'll become a smear.

But of course, people in Naruto are all too STUPID to think of such a simple counter.

"Hey, he's going so fast nobody can keep up! Wonder if he also can keep up with his own 'faster-than-brain-can-react-speed'?"

*summons wall*

*CRUNCHING NOISE*

"...eeew. Someone call the cleanup crew. Konoha's Yellow Flash just became Konoha's Red Stain."

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Mr. Mysterious · Mar 1, 2007

Shunshin no Jutsu is, presumably, about speed.

Hiraishin no Jutsu uses a jutsu shiki to essentially summon the user to the target. There is no indication that a wall would do anything to someone using it, unless the target managed to summon the wall exactly where and when the user was appearing. :huh.:

Edit: And on a sidenote... appearing half in a wall would suck.

GenocideHeart · Mar 1, 2007

Mr. Mysterious said:

Hiraishin being a summon jutsu is something I have a hard time buying, because all summons seem to have a slight delay between performing and actually summoning. And that delay is more than enough for someone to react.

But yeah, that's another danger of Hiraishin if it works as you presume. All the opponent needs to do is ready a defensive or area effect jutsu and unload exactly when Yonny disappears. Because of the brief delay in the disappear-reappear shtick (which is necessary for the jutsu to TRIGGER at all, really. Notice how none of the summons appear immediately upon completion, but theer's a slight pause), they'd get caught right in the effect... presumably with very unpleasant consequences.

Not to mention anyone fighting on water or surrounded by flames screws you over. You either rematerialize IN the water (and that could well kill you just as good as rematerializing in a wall would), or get flash-fried as soon as you reappear.

Given how FAST I've seen some shinobi throw jutsu out, I find it hard to believe no one could do something like that, myself.

:huh.:

nuclear death frog · Mar 1, 2007

GenocideHeart said:

Nitpick: Kenshin was never samurai to begin with. He was a peasant, born with the name Shinta, who lost his parents to cholera, became a slave, and then became the apprentice/charge of a wandering master swordsman, and was given a false name because the name Shinta is weak, and Hiko wanted him to have a name with strength and meaning. Hiko Seijuurou itself is an alias, with probably no legal weight but plenty of symbolic meaning if you're a student of history (in that world).

Once he became hitokiri, he might have been considered samurai...except not, because the lord he was serving (Katsura Kogoro [another alias!]) was working to BRING DOWN the system of the samurai and the shogunate. Further, samurai would have some kind of historical record ideally; Kenshin was a shadow assassin who shouldn't have been recorded by history at all.

Pioneer (or whoever) called the Kenshin OAV's Samurai X because Samurai is a known term even if the actual meaning isn't known (in the west). But the usage is wrong, and that's been a cause of criticism of the OAV's in the RuroKen fandom.

GenocideHeart · Mar 1, 2007

nuclear death frog said:

Nitpick noted. However, this also does imply that just because you look like a samurai and act like a samurai, and you may be called a samurai, you AREN'T necessarily a samurai... heck, Watsuki himself, in the first couple issues, made the mistake of referring to Kenshin as just that during narration segments. He never did it again past that point, but the mistake is there.

Anyway, never mind. The point is moot. :huh.:

Maschbot · Mar 1, 2007

Actually, beyond Naruto's Oiroke no jutsu and that one incident with Itachi & Kisame setting Jiraiya up, has anyone in the manga used seduction techniques? The only time I can even sort of recall it happening was when Ino tried (and failed miserably) to charm Neji in the Forest of Death. Does anyone else use tactics like that?

nuclear death frog · Mar 1, 2007

This isn't H-manga; we're never going to see those techniques outside of doujinshi. The fact that girls are specifically taught that they have to be able to pass as normal women (which is absolutely canon) is hint enough. We see the flower arranging courses in flashbacks; flower arranging is an extremely traditional women's skill in Japanese culture. It's one of the geisha arts, along with tea ceremony, dance, singing, and playing musical instruments...among others.

GenocideHeart · Mar 1, 2007

Maschbot said:

Not in Konoha, they don't. Which doesn't surprise me, as Konoha consistently has the UGLIEST females around, besides Anko. <_<

nuclear death frog · Mar 1, 2007

Eh, if the manga is to be believed, there are hardly any pretty women in the whole world. Blame Kishimoto's obsession with bishounen; he sure does draw pretty boys. :sweat: :no:

Doesn't help that for some of the girls/women who *could* be considered pretty, they have features which make them not.

GenocideHeart · Mar 1, 2007

nuclear death frog said:

The only woman that could pass as a somewhat successful seductress in the whole manga, if you ask me, is Ni Yugito... because she actually LOOKS LIKE a woman, and not a trap.

OTOH, Haku sure would have an easy time getting in any bedroom. Seducing straight men, now... that'll be a bit more complex.

nuclear death frog · Mar 1, 2007

Yugito, yeah...she's pretty. Shizune, maybe...a lot of people are attracted to the "cute girl next door" which Shizune sort of conforms to. That's...close to it. For me, anyway.

Pathetic. :no:

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