Tower of God

seitora

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I prefer Anak over Androssi, but yeah.

Rabbit girl seems to be yandere as fuck.

Also, Chapter 52 I think answers one of my earlier questions about being able to ascend and descend floors rapidly, looks like you can do it pretty quickly, just need to be licensed to do it properly through the official channels.
 
seitora said:
Amodelsino said:
On Enryu, it's completely possible it's the other way around. That Enryu absorbed and mastered part of this thing and that's what allowed him to pull the red Shinsoo hax. Way more likely that Enryu is just hax and this is one of his mad scientist creations or one of the workshop's, but still.
I'd have to look up the Season 1 stuff again, but I *think* Baam's dark-blue shinsoo only has that colour as of Season 2 once he enters the scene as Viole (though it may also be he never used any attacks in Season 1 that displayed visible shinsoo). So it's entirely possible whatever this thing is it changes Baam's shinsoo colour as well.

Actually, what I would definitely love is if this thing is some sort of remains of the 43rd Floor Guardian that Enryu killed, ala a Nobody or a Heartless of the Guardian.

On a side note, I'm curious. Does anybody know how long it's supposed to take to physically descend and ascend each floor if you've already passed the test for the floor? You have people like Yuri who climbed up from the 2nd floor to the 134th in 5 years (time skip) but I have no idea if it literally takes a full five years of walking, or if they just have some sort of handy teleportation spell or something and she just decided to show up back there after 5 years.

It would be neater if the place that FUG is located on IS the 43rd floor.
It's clear that there's a transportation spell as seen by when Baam passes Headon's test and when Leroro nabs all the testers to his spot.

Anyway there's some supplementary stuff I thought you guys would like to know.

Each floor is about the size of North America and the way time is counted is different from our world. A 'year' in the Tower would actually be only a few months for us. So when you see ages in the ToG, know that it's quite exaggerated when you compare it to the real world.
 

seitora

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If their year is a few of our months then Baam's hair grows like a weed (it grew that long in 5 ToG years)
 

foreverzero

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Ages are still abnormally long in the tower though, since Androssi is supposed to be around 300 tower years old. Assuming 1 tower year=5 months means she's 125 years old in real time, with her age going down in 25 year increments for each month less the tower year to real year ratio goes, with her being 25 if one tower year equated to 1 real life month (which wouldn't quite fit the "year equals a few months" the above comment references). Definitely something interesting to take note of though.
 

chronodekar

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And I'm confused with all these age calculations. :wacko:

-chronodekar
 

Ashaman

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Don't worry too much about it - All you need to knowis that characters aren't quite as ancient as we originally thought - but they are still pretty old.
 

Amodelsino

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That's not how it works at all, there's not some conversion, it's a perception difference. Because they live so long, they treat years of time the same way we treat months. Basically, 6 years to us seems like 6 years, to an ordinary regular it feels like 1-2 years feels to us.

Years are years. Adori Zahard for instance is legitimately 5000 years old, but the way they see time is changed the older they get, so Rankers and High Rankers have an even more extreme version of this effect. He was explaining why these people change so little over years of their life, and why stuff like Yuri messing around for five years before going back to the 134th floor happen, and why everyone still reacted like her getting two 13 Months had just recently happened. Because to both them and her that was still just a vacation, not the huge length of time we would treat it as.

EDIT: Actually he did say there are less days in the year, so their years are actually technically shorter than ours, but the very next line makes it clear the big deal is the perception difference since this gets even greater with Rankers, so in real time they're probably still similar numbers.
 

foreverzero

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Was this all posted in one of his end of chapter notes, or on his blog? I'd be sad face if the translators hadn't been translating all of the notes since they always end up being interesting.
 

seitora

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Let's not forget that at least 10 characters are legit immortal, and all older than Adori Zahard.

That said, what frustrates me about Tower of God is that its scope is too epic. You can sense brewing storylines underneath the surface like FUG's attempts to kill Zahard, the possibly of Aguero Agnis defeating his father and taking the headship of the clan, inevitable clashes between the different factions of the tower...but when the timeline of the Tower is so long that Zahard has been 'resting' for awhile for such a time that a system has been established of three rotating lords who rule a thousand years each at a time, how the hell will we ever get to see any of this unless the author does massive time skips?

Like, Koon Aguero Agnis will probably take a few millenium to hit a ranking where he could defeat his father.
 

chronodekar

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The scope of Tower of God is overwhelming at times, but so far the author hasn't messed up (as far as I can tell) - which is an impressive accomplishment in and of itself.

-chronodekar
 

foreverzero

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Don't forget that the scope extends beyond the tower itself as well, particularly once you get into things like the Exis. Hence why the series has the Talze Uzer Story label above the chapter titles. It's meant to be one massive universe that's epic in scope, and what we're seeing is just one small piece of the whole story.
 

chronodekar

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Just finished the latest chapter on batoto. What surprises me the most is how backed into a corner they got Koon in. Knowing him, I can't wait to see how he gets out of it.

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seitora

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Ooooh, FUG politics is heating up. Fun.

Also, Baam totally needs to take yandere rabbit-girl to bed and fuck her brains out until her yan hits critical heights, then continue fucking her until it collapses in on itself in a yan singularity. Who's with me B)

(though Hwa Ryun seems to be getting more and more screen-time it seems)
 
chronodekar said:
Just finished the latest chapter on batoto. What surprises me the most is how backed into a corner they got Koon in. Knowing him, I can't wait to see how he gets out of it.

-chronodekar
Why does this surprise you now? SIU has given plenty of examples to demonstrate that Mr. Koon is in fact a little boy trying to play a game far, far above his comprehension. Ever since the very moment he chose to attach himself to Baam in Evankhell's Hell he's been an unwitting tool in the FUG agenda. Everything he tried to do for Baam's sake played straight into Yu Han Sung's hands. Koon's one big 'magnificent bastard' moment was when he managed to manipulate a butt monkey character during the Hide and Seek Test. He's definitely smarter than your typical unseasoned climber, but he doesn't always even succeed there. Rachel, after all, has just thoroughly outmaneuvered him in recent chapters.

I don't know whether FUG calculated Koon A.A.'s survival at Arlene's Hand (depends on how much consideration they might have given to the possibility of Viole interfering and how highly they might have rated his ability to do so), but my guess is that he's still playing right into their hands. After all, at this moment he's confidently leading more of the sheep straight into the wolf's den. I'll be very surprised if FUG hasn't cooked up some nefarious plan that involves using all of Viole's hostages, so conveniently gathered together with him at the same time and place, as leverage to make him do something during the Gongbang. After all, they're all in agreement with the situation. My guess is that they're going to attempt to make Baam execute Wangnan, the 'Prince of Zahard' during the tournament with all those eyes throughout the tower watching.

Anyway, back to Koon, I do like the guy and look forward to the day he, Baam and Rak are all broteaming again. But let's not pretend like he's ever had the upper hand in any of his encounters with FUG and their schemes. I'm not surprised in the least to see that they herded him right where they wanted him to be. They've been doing so from the very beginning of the manwha.
 

chronodekar

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SerpentknightLester said:
Anyway, back to Koon, I do like the guy and look forward to the day he, Baam and Rak are all broteaming again. But let's not pretend like he's ever had the upper hand in any of his encounters with FUG and their schemes. I'm not surprised in the least to see that they herded him right where they wanted him to be. They've been doing so from the very beginning of the manwha.
Fully agree. Can't wait to see the three of them back together!

-chronodekar
 

seitora

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Especially Rak.

Rak is secretly the 135th Floor Guardian orchestrating everything for his amusement!
 
seitora said:
Also, Baam totally needs to take yandere rabbit-girl to bed and fuck her brains out until her yan hits critical heights, then continue fucking her until it collapses in on itself in a yan singularity. Who's with me B)
You must not like her much. I shudder to imagine what Yuri would do to the girl who deflowers Baam before her.
 

seitora

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Hwa Ryun seems to be (very slowly) emerging as a love interest too.

Besides, Yuri would have to get there before Androssi first ;)
 
seitora said:
Hwa Ryun seems to be (very slowly) emerging as a love interest too.

Besides, Yuri would have to get there before Androssi first ;)
Eh, that's a stretch in my opinion. After all, Hwa Ryun is an associate of FUG and played a leading role in manipulating Baam into the living Hell that has been his existence as Jyu Viole Grace. Naive as he used to be, I still doubt he's unaware of the latter fact. I don't think he could ever really bring himself to fully trust her knowing that, much less fall in love with her. Then again he seems to get along well enough with Jinsung, so who knows? Maybe I just don't want it to be the case, as I don't much care for Hwa Ryun.
 

chronodekar

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SerpentknightLester said:
You must not like her much. I shudder to imagine what Yuri would do to the girl who deflowers Baam before her.
Yuri ... is that Zahard princess, right? Is she even permitted to do that?

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seitora

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Yes, Yuri is the Zahard princess, the one who shows up in the second chapter :)

And no, she can't have 'a relationship with a man'
<a href='http://www.batoto.net/read/_/225/tower-of-god_v1_ch33_by_the-company' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Chapter 33</a>. Given the context of the text (the picture where that's quoted from) I'm guessing they can't just have a quickie either with contraception.

I expect a couple of princesses probably ignore that rule though, since the original Anak Zahard wasn't caught out until she became pregnant.


Also, I just realised that two of the 10 Great Warriors are called 'Arie Hon' and 'Ari Han'. That must get confusing when speaking.
 

Megaolix

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I myself wonder when Baam will get to hold Black March again. Don't forget that even the weapon want him.
 
seitora said:
Yes, Yuri is the Zahard princess, the one who shows up in the second chapter :)

And no, she can't have 'a relationship with a man'
<a href='http://www.batoto.net/read/_/225/tower-of-god_v1_ch33_by_the-company' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Chapter 33</a>. Given the context of the text (the picture where that's quoted from) I'm guessing they can't just have a quickie either with contraception.

I expect a couple of princesses probably ignore that rule though, since the original Anak Zahard wasn't caught out until she became pregnant.


Also, I just realised that two of the 10 Great Warriors are called 'Arie Hon' and 'Ari Han'. That must get confusing when speaking.
Not at all. The pronunciation is completely different. Very distinct when spoken.
 
chronodekar said:
SerpentknightLester said:
You must not like her much. I shudder to imagine what Yuri would do to the girl who deflowers Baam before her.
Yuri ... is that Zahard princess, right? Is she even permitted to do that?
She is and she's not. But Yuri also pretty openly pals around with Urek Mazino despite Irregulars in general being Zahard's avowed enemies, and let Baam use the Black March on a whim. Suffice to say that she doesn't seem to care too much about Zahard's prohibitions, and I doubt his will would stop her from engaging in a relationship with a man if the urge struck her.
 

Masterly

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I still don't understand why people like to pair Baam up with all of those girls. I've seen overtures of friendship/companionship and a desire to use him for their own ends but nothing romantic. Hell, the most I've seen thus far has come from Koon. Am I just not picking up on these cues that everybody else but me can see?

But if I did want to ship him with somebody it would probably be Anak.
 
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