Akamatsuverse UQ Holder!: Negima 2

shiki

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You do know that Touta probably has +stats for being a vampire right? Additionally, even if he is an idiot, he has also been living with and training with Eva for years (even if it wasn't heavy training like the Negi-tachi got). Even if he doesn't know it, he probably got some training in magical boosting and efficiency. You can assume this because that was one of the first key lessons that Eva teaches all her students because it is such an important foundation toward her fighting style(Negi, Asuna, and Takamichi, you can probably add in Kotarou too) using that winter mountain training. She likes the whole covert teaching by beating it into a student rather than actual instruction as evidenced by pretty much all of her teaching moments in Negima with Negi, Asuna, and Setsuna.

Plus, EVERYONE in this series and the series related to it uses magic and/or ki to boost their physical abilities. From Motoko to Kanako to Fei Ku to Sestuna to Nagi to Fate to Evangeline to Touta to even Nodoka. It is so ubiquitous that you have to assume that everyone is boosting their base abilities using mystical means. When talking about raw power, you cannot separate magical and physical because raw power is measured with both.

Like I said earlier, Touta is essentially Asuna in this tale. It would be a much better comparison rather than creating a contrast with Negi (which really doesn't exist in the manner that you are looking at).

Also, you have to remember that one arrow of light is equivalent to the power of one of Negi's unenhanced punches when he was a human. Even early on, he had the ability to spam these things like they were nothing. He was able to cast over 199 of them before he got training with Eva after exhausting himself by buffing his partners for 15 minutes. 7 of them were able to knock down a Takamichi going easy on him. A later version was able to actually hurt Rakan when he only had a 500 power rating.

TL;DR Negi was no slouch in raw power even before training. Eva specifically said so during a conversation after Kyoto when explaining magic to Konoka.

Edit: Also, Touta was using ki boosting to lift the car. It wasn't just pure brute strength. Negi was able to do similar feats of strength after he learned how to channel his power into himself (even when he improperly overloaded the technique in a rage causing lots of inefficiency) like when he was fighting that noble demon with the slimes after Kyoto and right when he started training seriously. That fight with the demon that attacked his town wasn't one that showed that he lacked ability, rather it was one that showed that he was truly gifted.

Keep in mind, it took only took him about a year to go from getting his butt defeated by monkey shikigami and high school girls to being able to go toe to toe with the most powerful people in the two worlds. Power was never the problem with Negi. It was learning to pace himself and being mature enough to trust other people with his burdens and problems rather than trucking alone as well as having the courage to move forward even when dragged down by doubts and worries. Honestly, this is one of the only manga series that stuck with it lessons from the first volume to the last.
 

Antimatter

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Unless I misread this chapter, I thought Touta was using his ki for all the feats seen, just without any sort of finesse to it. This is why the girls were able to beat him in arm wrestling. In effect, he's currently pulling an early naruto: all power, no technique.

Honestly, looking back at Akamatsu main males, they all seem to fit the pattern.

Keitaro was strong physically, with his invincibility, but lacked technique. When Seta started to train him, he showed an amazing knack for it and later could go toe to toe with Motoko, who had trained in it her whole life. Kanako shows what the urashimas were capable of learning in their own family style, which seemingly Keitaro had never learned (for reasons never explained).

Negi had amazing magical power, but lacked again, the technique. As he learned more and more, his power was off the charts.

Touta? Seems like he has serious ki, and is currently learning where his limitations are.
 

Antimatter

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Me thinks the MC is about to get a harsh dose of reality.
 

Ordo

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Heh....this should prove interesting.
 

KageX

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The new chapter is out.

Plot hooks ahoy!

You know I have to wonder how Negi would (or let's face it will, I am not accepting he is dead, just incapacitated, until it is confirmed in no uncertain terms) think of how the world has changed for the worse in many ways thanks to things he laid the groundwork for. While a part of him would be crushed by it another part would of course be busy planning how to break his foot off in the head of these Mercenaries ass and then going after people who hired them.

Finally does anyone else think that Chachamaru might still be around, possibly as the "overseer AI" of the Orbital Elevator or some other important place, only with her personality on "lockdown" and Evangeline getting around to restoring it as a "fuck you" to these assholes who think they own the world and get payback on them for their use of Chachamaru?

Because I just can't get that thought out of my head.
 

Ordo

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I think the heroes are in trouble, these Mercs are not playing, they took out the help with a clever distraction and the guy going for Karin appears to be pretty talented, and has gone straight for the kill a couple of times. Honestly the guy was brutally efficient, none of this Dragon Ball Z "Let's see how strong you are" he tried to kill his target via sneak attack and has continued in that vein.
 

Antimatter

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Wow, the mercs don't joke around, he honestly tried to kill her several times in that fight. Interested to see how this plays out.

And Damn Karin is mighty tasty looking, isn't see?
 

alansg

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This was brutal.

And of course, we may actually see a flashback about Misora, and the merc is obviously related to Chao.


And Damn Karin is mighty tasty looking, isn't see?
When this gets an anime, I wonder how many light beams are going to be used to censor everything
 

TmDagger

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alansg said:
This was brutal.

And of course, we may actually see a flashback about Misora, and the merc is obviously related to Chao.


And Damn Karin is mighty tasty looking, isn't see?
When this gets an anime, I wonder how many light beams are going to be used to censor everything
This manga seems to be quite open about it's target audience - so one may hope that anime is made in adult tones by decent studio this time around - without childish garbage that killed previous attempts.

Hell, I still hope Negima gets FMA:Brotherhood treatment someday soonish.
 

TmDagger

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knight504 said:
TmDagger said:
Hell, I still hope Negima gets FMA:Brotherhood treatment someday soonish.
If only.
Well, the manga is over, so one of the biggest problems Anime-adaptations face is not here anymore.
All they'll need is to spice up first couple arcs with action (scenes from past for example, or couple battles that were glossed over in manga) so that LH-shennigans don't overwhelm story, and pick a good way to portray battles to avoid DBZ-esque bullshit.
 

Knyght

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Ah, it's just the way they've handled the anime in the past leaves me with low expectations on the anime front, what with the short series that nearly a decade ago and all those OVAs. It just feels like a mess. But I definitely wouldn't say no to a full length anime.
 

Knyght

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Somehow that doesn't surprise me.

Ah, the joys of double-page spreads being cut in half.
 

alansg

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Shit got real way too fast. I wonder how are they going to get out of this. Maybe Eva or totallyNot!Negi will bail them out, because right now at least Touta and Longege seems to be underleveled for this kind of quest.
 

Antimatter

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alansg said:
Shit got real way too fast. I wonder how are they going to get out of this. Maybe Eva or totallyNot!Negi will bail them out, because right now at least Touta and Longege seems to be underleveled for this kind of quest.
New chapter didn't go any better for them. Wow, these guys are not pulling punches, now are they?
 

alansg

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Akamatsu isn't holding back, all the characters are going all out. Maybe this is what he wanted Negima to be before the harem has forced on him?
 

shiki

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Ah damn and more importantly, Tengu is going to choose to be a boy at this rate.
 
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The interesting bit to me is that Akamatsu can be as violent and bloody as he likes and the characters won't die. In light of this combat I wonder if that's why he went for the whole Immortal Yakuza thing.
 

Knyght

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shiki said:
Ah damn and more importantly, Tengu is going to choose to be a boy at this rate.
Because you can't be a girl and be strong, apparently. At least that's how it sounded to me, which is odd considering the source. Makes me hope s/he becomes a girl and tries to be the best of both.
 

Ordo

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Man this went pear shaped fast....
 

Ordo

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Huh, that kids got brass pair of balls. Hopefully he holds them off long enough for Karin to save the day. That said, Karin, turn around and smash/cut/tear off his head. After all I've seen so far we are following the rules of Shaka "Never leave an enemy behind, or they will fly up at your neck."
 
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