Akamatsuverse UQ Holder!: Negima 2

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Ordo

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I should've seen this coming....I mean we had those Demons in Negi, like the one that was always thinking about sending money home to his family. So now we have an entie organization of monster helping one another in the human world. And Touta just declared his intention to become their boss.


.....wait a minute.....Evangelion (a Vampire) is the head of an organization....that has tons of monsters from various mythologies around the world just hanging out in a massive complex....with a few high level "BOSS" type characters for good measure...

She's created a good guy version of Castlevania!

Which means Touta = Alucard and Ms. Tokisaka(Stop hiding it girl or you gonna lose him to the hammer user) = Richter Belmont.

Also, I like the dude who lifted Touta with ease while carrying the sword.
 
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shiki

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Man, I can't wait until the introduction arc finishes up. This stuff is all well and good but I want to know when Immortal Negi will pop in for a cameo.

I would not be surprised if he was the one that helped found the organization with a bunch of his pals after the kidou elevator was complete and he was done with his crusade before he fell to the dark-side only to became the Final Boss for Touta Konoe to defeat at the end.

Edit: As a side note: I believe the saishodoukin theory that he married Konoka and Setsuna leading to the Touta on one side and the crossdressing girl on the other. Although this doesn't mesh with my theory that Negi and Eva had something going on. It could conceivably be that Touta is the one the little note was referring to at the end of Negima instead of Negi... Hmm.

You know, just based on the time period that this is set in (early 22nd century), I would not be surprised if a Mars liberation war arc that caused Asuna's oversleeping will be done done the pipe.
 
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the DragonBard

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shiki said:
Man, I can't wait until the introduction arc finishes up. This stuff is all well and good but I want to know when Immortal Negi will pop in for a cameo.

I would not be surprised if he was the one that helped found the organization with a bunch of his pals after the kidou elevator was complete and he was done with his crusade before he fell to the dark-side only to became the Final Boss for Touta Konoe to defeat at the end.

Edit: As a side note: I believe the saishodoukin theory that he married Konoka and Setsuna leading to the Touta on one side and the crossdressing girl on the other. Although this doesn't mesh with my theory that Negi and Eva had something going on. It could conceivably be that Touta is the one the little note was referring to at the end of Negima instead of Negi... Hmm.

You know, just based on the time period that this is set in (early 22nd century), I would not be surprised if a Mars liberation war arc that caused Asuna's oversleeping will be done done the pipe.
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Depends on which timeline this is set in.
Asuna's original one, or the one created when Asuna was sent back in time.
 
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If this entire series turns out to be a send up of Shonen series like Naruto I'm expecting to have a LOT of fun with it.
 
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shiki

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the DragonBard said:
shiki said:
Man, I can't wait until the introduction arc finishes up. This stuff is all well and good but I want to know when Immortal Negi will pop in for a cameo.

I would not be surprised if he was the one that helped found the organization with a bunch of his pals after the kidou elevator was complete and he was done with his crusade before he fell to the dark-side only to became the Final Boss for Touta Konoe to defeat at the end.

Edit: As a side note: I believe the saishodoukin theory that he married Konoka and Setsuna leading to the Touta on one side and the crossdressing girl on the other. Although this doesn't mesh with my theory that Negi and Eva had something going on. It could conceivably be that Touta is the one the little note was referring to at the end of Negima instead of Negi... Hmm.

You know, just based on the time period that this is set in (early 22nd century), I would not be surprised if a Mars liberation war arc that caused Asuna's oversleeping will be done done the pipe.
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Depends on which timeline this is set in.
Asuna's original one, or the one created when Asuna was sent back in time.
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I don't think it matters which timeline. There would be a war on Mars regardless of which timeline it is. The wording of Mana's blurb kind of makes it seem that a war of independence happens regardless of timeline.

Edit: Unless this is the (future) Eva that transported to the past with Asuna and Chao that went parallel universe hoping but that brings loads more questions than answers.
 
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shiki said:
the DragonBard said:
shiki said:
Man, I can't wait until the introduction arc finishes up. This stuff is all well and good but I want to know when Immortal Negi will pop in for a cameo.

I would not be surprised if he was the one that helped found the organization with a bunch of his pals after the kidou elevator was complete and he was done with his crusade before he fell to the dark-side only to became the Final Boss for Touta Konoe to defeat at the end.

Edit: As a side note: I believe the saishodoukin theory that he married Konoka and Setsuna leading to the Touta on one side and the crossdressing girl on the other. Although this doesn't mesh with my theory that Negi and Eva had something going on. It could conceivably be that Touta is the one the little note was referring to at the end of Negima instead of Negi... Hmm.

You know, just based on the time period that this is set in (early 22nd century), I would not be surprised if a Mars liberation war arc that caused Asuna's oversleeping will be done done the pipe.
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Depends on which timeline this is set in.
Asuna's original one, or the one created when Asuna was sent back in time.
Click to expand...
I don't think it matters which timeline. There would be a war on Mars regardless of which timeline it is. The wording of Mana's blurb kind of makes it seem that a war of independence happens regardless of timeline.
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Now if only I could figure out a way to fuse this with Babylon 5.
 
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shiki

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It is because it isn't noteworthy. Seriously, it wasn't at all notable or surprising in the least.

The only people surprised are the dumb-asses on /a/.
 
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lord geryon

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So, no human can harm her, huh?

Touta isn't human anymore.

Lulz will ensue.
 
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lord geryon said:
So, no human can harm her, huh?

Touta isn't human anymore.

Lulz will ensue.
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Heh.

Question is, is it literal, or did she just mean that she's so tough, no one's attacks can harm her?

Well, besides people who've become monsters like Nagi or the like.
 
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shiki

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Well just based on Power Level so far, these immortals(at least the scrubs and Touta's group) don't look like they are Ala Rubra level badasses. I mean they had to use effort against a pseudo mage instead of just decimating him without effort in one blow. I would put them below 500 on the Rakan chart so far based on what it shown.
 
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Congrats to the UQ Flunkies, they did not hesitate to take that blast meant for the kids.
 
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And it seems that wake up boss fight some people were saying Touta needs is on the way....
 
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lord geryon

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Karin is being all tsun-tsun at Touta so far. I wonder who will receive her dere-dere, Evangeline or Touta?
 
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Karin is mighty tasty, isn't she? Interesting form of immortality she's got, but wow, you know there is a death flag waiting for her at some point with how that works.
 
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shiki

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Not until she falls in love and triggers the per-confession battle death flag with love flashbacks.
 
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It seems Touta still has a long way to go. He obviously has the raw power for this, and even the talent to grasp the concepts, but he's lacking the Finesse, the skill the others are showing. Which makes him the Opposite of Negi who had the skill, but not the power when he first started.

Edit:
Oh right UQ Holder 15
 
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shiki

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You know that isn't actually true right? Negi did have the raw power and keen mind at the start. All he need was to gain through the manga was the resolve to see thing through and life experience to mature in order to match up.

It isn't like his mana batteries grew or anything. He just learned to reduce his MP consumption, casting time, and gained the willingness to risk his humanity to get superior MP/HP regen using ME before he mastered it through sheer grit and life experiences.

As for Touta, he is just Baka Ranger Red Mk.II. You know he is going to have some sort of back-story later. Touta is pretty much Asuna as the special snowflake in these early goings.
 
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Not sure I agree, Negi had a keen mind, but not the power. In fact that's why he was originally going to train with Rakan, and abandon intelligence if it meant gaining power to protect his friends. Physically Negi had some issues, though he used his keen mind to overcome said problems by training with Fei and even then he was really using his mystical powers (which had grown to an impressive level later on) to compensate for his lack of physical strength.

Touta is all physical power, no finesse. Which is why him mastering Finesse could make him very dangerous. I mean when he was doing his version of flash stepping, he was wasting a lot of energy and power but was moving at frankly impressive speed, repeatedly. Now, his 'sensei' does it better with almost casual movements. If Touta figures that out he just serious increased his effectiveness in a fight.
 
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Ordo said:
Not sure I agree, Negi had a keen mind, but not the power. In fact that's why he was originally going to train with Rakan, and abandon intelligence if it meant gaining power to protect his friends. Physically Negi had some issues, though he used his keen mind to overcome said problems by training with Fei and even then he was really using his mystical powers (which had grown to an impressive level later on) to compensate for his lack of physical strength.
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No offense, but that's pretty much all wrong. Negi was always a ten year old with lots of power and a damn insane growth rate.

Only time Negi had issues with physical strength was because he had never bothered learning how to boost himself up. He picked it up without anyone teaching him, and then went to Ku Fei, who even remarked just insane his growth was.

And everyone is boosting themselves with "mythical power". Only difference is that the martial artist use ki instead of magic.

The only reason he "lacked power" and went to Rakan as you put it is that he was punching so insanely above his weight class it wasn't even funny.

Negi's thing was lacking experience (due to being 10 years old thing) not power.
 
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I still disagree. I’m not talking about Negi’s growth rate, or his keen mind when I’m talking about power. I look at his battle with Fate during the school trip, I look how he trained himself afterwards and notice a focus on boosting his physical power/abilities via absorbing spells. This is not a slam or a denigration of his abilities, I’m just noting that to be at his most effective he had to consume magic via a dangerous technique. I compare that to Touta whose wielding a gravity blade, and (by brute force alone) was moving at insane speed, not to mention jumping 5 stories straight up and lifting heavy vehicle equipment. Touta, 15 chapters in, is showing a lot of insane physical strengths but he is failing (to date) to use it well or even efficiently.
 
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You realize Negi flipped over a van like it was nothing with a wind spell early on in the manga right? To say nothing of the punch he packs when Eva makes him shoot over a 100 magical arrows at the same time for his training.

Or the way he blasts dozens of demons in the Kyoto arc with one spell that doesn't even slow him down.

This is all beginning of the manga Negi prior to any training.

The guy was powerful from the start. He's one of those annoying character you'd call a Mary Sue in any other situation were it not for the fact they keep reminding us he's an inexperienced child.

Even then the kid annoys me.

And looking at his fight with Fate in Kyoto to judge is.. well cherry picking doesn't even cover it.
 
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All right I am going to sleep so this will be my final comment on the subject. Negi used magic to flip that truck, where as Touta lifted one via brute strength. The fate fight was one example of a lack of raw physical power, another would be the fight he had with the demon after that trip. Yes Negi has a lot of mystical ability, and he uses that to increase physical power. Now this disagreement might be a result of me viewing Physical Power and magical ability as two separate things, but from my POV, Touta is already disturbingly powerful when it comes to the Physical, it’s just he’s dealing with people that are not impressed by Brute strength. However, when and if Touta gains the finesse to back up the raw strength he will be dangerous indeed.
 
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