Evangelion Where in the World is Gendo Ikari?

sworded

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#26
At some point the girls need to visit a super seeding, mob run gambling den where for information on Gendo, and one of the girls ends up wagering the other as a sex slave in some highstakes game.
 

Watashiwa

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#27
sworded said:
At some point the girls need to visit a super seeding, mob run gambling den where for information on Gendo, and one of the girls ends up wagering the other as a sex slave in some highstakes game.
Urgh. No, this is a PG-13 story. It's half based on Carmen freaking Sandiego for crying out loud. Of course, the other half is NGE, so...

Now, gambling away all their money and Asuka offering Rei as collateral I can see, but it's going to be followed by them being ejected from the premises.

And AJT, are you serious about sending them to two of the most unstable regions on Earth?

Dammit, I need to talk to bluepencil. He's actually thought about what a Post-2nd Impact world look like.
 

nairit

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#28
Hmm...

Well the best place to start would be somewhere Gendo would actually consider safe to hide, i.e. a place where he can blend in.

Here's a theory. you should actually stay in south-east asia for a while.
 

Watashiwa

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#29
nairit said:
Here's a theory. you should actually stay in south-east asia for a while.
So...China? How much of that part of the world would be left if Antarctica melted, do you think? I think Indonesia might be a loss...

Speaking of which, can anyone tell me why Japan is still over water in a post Second Impact world? Is there an actual logical reason for it, or is it simply "this is an anime, therefore Japan is the center of the world"?
 

nairit

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#30
I postulate that japan mastered the art of making artificial islands like Narita Airports and build over flooded areas. Like, Tokyo was flodded y'know.
 

image

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#31
Nice snipnet bro. When did you get the urge to take up writing again. For some strange reason I reminded of the 'eternities war' but I don't know why. So hows tricks up in Oregon.
 

Watashiwa

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#32
Oh God, I haven't thought of Eternities Wars in forever. Dammit image.

I actually just started writing this on a whim. I posted the idea, AJT posted the first response and I realized that I wanted to out-do it.

@nairit: ...Duh! It begs the question though of where the raw materials would come from, and doesn't explain why Tokyo-1 wasn't rebuilt using those techniques.
 

image

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#33
well would you rebuild your National capital over a flood plain. One where untold millions of people had died recently. There is a reason why people of ancient times didn't rebuild Solomon and Gomorrah.
 

sworded

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#34
Watashiwa said:
sworded said:
At some point the girls need to visit a super seeding, mob run gambling den where for information on Gendo, and one of the girls ends up wagering the other as a sex slave in some highstakes game.
Urgh. No, this is a PG-13 story. It's half based on Carmen freaking Sandiego for crying out loud. Of course, the other half is NGE, so...

Now, gambling away all their money and Asuka offering Rei as collateral I can see, but it's going to be followed by them being ejected from the premises.
Actually this is what I was thinking about...

A secret mob club somewhere in East Asia

Asuka and Rei with the help of the Magi scaning security footage from various transportation hubs quickly determined that Gendo was moving around the world using a network of secret planes and airfields. They couldn't track the planes, but they could track the fuel and supplies Gendo needed to operate them. That's what led them to this den on inequity owned by the most dreaded crime lord in all Asia, Panda Buba.

Currently Asuka watches on as Rei demonstrates an unknown talent at poker while atempting to interigate her oppenet the dangerous Panda Buba on where Gendo Ikari is or the location of the secret airfields.

"You are very good at poker Miss Ayanami, but very bad at gaining information from a wary subject." remarked Buba as he lost another hand.

"I see. Perhaps then I can use one to cover for the other. Let's change the stakes of this next hand; I win you tell me what I want to know, you win I give you back all the money I won from you."

"An interesting proposition Miss Ayanami. I agree, but the stakes if I win need to be something better."

"What do I have available that would be a worthy stake then?"

"Your partner here would be a valuable... asset to my organization."

"...Agreed"

Asuka who had been previously been watching with amusement now turned bright red with rage and grabbed Rei violently shaking her while shouting, "What the hell are you doing you First I'm not some stupid doll that you can just bargain with?!"

At that point Asuka's shaking caused several cards to fall out of Rei's sleeves to the increasingly angry looks of the mob onlookers.

"Heh heh, oops." Asuka mumbles as Rei glares at her and the mobsters prepare to take vengence.

An hour later outside the ruined mob club

"How was I to know you were cheating?" yelled Asuka as she and her partner made their way to the jet provided by the UN Security Counsil.

"Regardless Pilot Soryu after you exposed my decption, and gave Panda Buba a concussion in the ensuing fight the only thing that we learn from him is the Ikari formerly known as Comander is hiding at a secret base behind 'the Greatest Waterfall in the World'. We have no other leads."

"What do you mean? 'The Greatest Waterfall in the World' is clearly Niagra Falls so lets get ready to head for North America."

"Not so Pilot Soryu. There is also the possibilities of the Victoria Falls in Africa and the Angel Falls in South America."

Back in Tokyo III

Two purple behemoths circled each other as Shinji prepared to fight the Angle of Friendship in its nightmare inducing form. But just as he readied himself the Angle unleashed its most powerful attack, a psychic pain wave carried by sound...I Love you, You love me... the horror, the horror!
 
#35
Watashiwa said:
sworded said:
At some point the girls need to visit a super seeding, mob run gambling den where for information on Gendo, and one of the girls ends up wagering the other as a sex slave in some highstakes game.
Urgh. No, this is a PG-13 story. It's half based on Carmen freaking Sandiego for crying out loud. Of course, the other half is NGE, so...

Now, gambling away all their money and Asuka offering Rei as collateral I can see, but it's going to be followed by them being ejected from the premises.

And AJT, are you serious about sending them to two of the most unstable regions on Earth?

Dammit, I need to talk to bluepencil. He's actually thought about what a Post-2nd Impact world look like.
Yes, I totally am. It'll be fun.
 

Da-Guru

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#36
Watashiwa said:
nairit said:
Here's a theory. you should actually stay in south-east asia for a while.
So...China? How much of that part of the world would be left if Antarctica melted, do you think? I think Indonesia might be a loss...

Speaking of which, can anyone tell me why Japan is still over water in a post Second Impact world? Is there an actual logical reason for it, or is it simply "this is an anime, therefore Japan is the center of the world"?
Oh easy. Let the actual scientist field this question.

The truth of the matter is that most of the islands that are in danger of being flooded by global warming are low elevation, tropical reef islands that are already near sea level. Japan would be largely spared because of its large relief compared to the rest of the Pacific Islands. Being a volcanic chain does have some benefits.

And before you try to argue with me on this, realize that I have an RL degree in Geology.
 

ringlhach

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#37
Agreed, but wouldn't a lot of it depend on how high the sea level rose? Does anyone know the numbers on that? A whole lot of ice got vaporized, after all, and it's got to go somewhere. It wouldn't just stay up in the atmosphere forever.

I mean, yeah, Honshu's got 12-13k ft MSL peaks, but a lot of it is around 1k ft, and Hokkaido's slopes only seem to be a bit steeper. Going off the chart I'm looking at (a WGS-84 JNC from back in '97), Kyushu and maybe Shikoku could be absolutely fucked.

We might end up with a whole bunch of smaller islands with shallow seas around them.
 

Da-Guru

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#38
I have numbers. If all the ice in the glaciers in the world melted, sea level would rise by about 8-10 feet at most. But those 8-10 feet would be enough to submerge some areas of the world, like Florida.

Edit: The bigger worries are simple thermal expansion and changes in the topography of the sea floor. Those happen on much longer timescales. But the changes can be in 100s of meters.
 

Watashiwa

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#39
Yeah, I figured that a lot of Japan would be okay; I mean, about half of it is mountains after all.

As for how much sea levels rose... I have no clue. When Gendo goes to retrieve the Lance, we see that most of Antarctica has been vaporized. But given that Antarctica is a landmass under the ice (IIRC, it's actually the largest continent...), sea levels may not have risen as dramatically as they might have.
 
#40
Watashiwa said:
Yeah, I figured that a lot of Japan would be okay; I mean, about half of it is mountains after all.

As for how much sea levels rose... I have no clue. When Gendo goes to retrieve the Lance, we see that most of Antarctica has been vaporized. But given that Antarctica is a landmass under the ice (IIRC, it's actually the largest continent...), sea levels may not have risen as dramatically as they might have.
All the same, considering 90 percent of humanity lives within a couple miles of the coast, it's amazing we didn't lose more than 3 billion when the planet was flooded.
 

Wintermute

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#41
Watashiwa said:
Yeah, I figured that a lot of Japan would be okay; I mean, about half of it is mountains after all.

As for how much sea levels rose... I have no clue.? When Gendo goes to retrieve the Lance, we see that most of Antarctica has been vaporized.? But given that Antarctica is a landmass under the ice (IIRC, it's actually the largest continent...), sea levels may not have risen as dramatically as they might have.
Antarctica is in fact the third smallest continent at ~13.2 million square km.
worldatlas.com
#1 Asia - (44,579,000 sq km)
#2 Africa - (30,065,000 sq km)
#3 North America - (24,256,000 sq km)
#4 South America - (17,819,000 sq km)
#5 Antarctica - (13,209,000 sq km)
#6 Europe - (9,938,000 sq km)
#7 Australia/Oceania - (7,687,000 sq km)
 

Watashiwa

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#42
Wintermute said:
Watashiwa said:
Yeah, I figured that a lot of Japan would be okay; I mean, about half of it is mountains after all.

As for how much sea levels rose... I have no clue.á When Gendo goes to retrieve the Lance, we see that most of Antarctica has been vaporized.á But given that Antarctica is a landmass under the ice (IIRC, it's actually the largest continent...), sea levels may not have risen as dramatically as they might have.
Antarctica is in fact the third smallest continent at ~13.2 million square km.
worldatlas.com
#1 Asia - (44,579,000 sq km)
#2 Africa - (30,065,000 sq km)
#3 North America - (24,256,000 sq km)
#4 South America - (17,819,000 sq km)
#5 Antarctica - (13,209,000 sq km)
#6 Europe - (9,938,000 sq km)
#7 Australia/Oceania - (7,687,000 sq km)
Really now... Huh. I guess that's what I get for going off of ten year old memories and not looking it up myself.

Out of curiosity, do you know how much ice is estimated to be in Antarctica?
 

sworded

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#44
David Alan Abramczyk said:
Isn't something like 97% of the world's fresh water is frozen as ice in Antarctica?
I don't think it's that high considering the amount of water that's in some of the aquafers.
 
#47
Guys, enough science already. Watashiwa, come on, write a crazy-awesome Shinji fighting new Angels! If you need any ideas for them, I have plenty.
 

Watashiwa

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#48
Andrew Joshua Talon said:
Guys, enough science already. Watashiwa, come on, write a crazy-awesome Shinji fighting new Angels! If you need any ideas for them, I have plenty.
Hey, the Angel fights in this aren't the focus of the story. They're going to be chapter capstones, an escape from the witty(?) banter and explorations of the Second Impact world cleverly hidden by the ridiculousness of the situations our lovely ladies find themselves in/cause/make thousands of times worse.

That said, I do happen to have one...

Maybe three or four countries in. Context doesn't matter hugely since these are separate from the main plot anyway.

<><><><>

"Eva launch!"

No matter how many times Shinji heard those words, the apprehension in his stomach never failed to get a hundred times worse. Or maybe that was the sudden addition of a few dozen Gs as the launch elevator blasted him up to the surface.

"All right Shinji, here's the plan," Misato said over the projector. "Get up there and smash the Angel flat!"

"That's some plan, Major. How much are we paying you again?" The Commander, in keeping with tradition had assumed "the Gendo", hands folded in front of his face, hiding his mouth from you. His bright and glasses-less eyes ruined the effect somewhat.

"Well sir, the MAGI have been analyzing the Angel since it was detected eight hours ago. They believe with less than 1 percent margin of error that they have identified the Angel's ability."

The Commander raised an eyebrow. "And that would be...?"

Ritsuko Akagi stepped forward removing a remote from her pocket. With a press of a button, a picture of the Angel appeared on the central screen. Someone snickered. "The Angel is spherical, and unlike other Angels of the same shape, exclusively rolls on the ground. This generates a powerful electromagnetic field that allows it to "catch" objects, which are crushed against the central mass."

Onscreen, the ball rolled over a car and kept going. With every successive rotation the car compacted and spread more and more, until at last it was no more than a smear.

Someone started singing.

"We believe that the Angel's A.T. Field is being used to produce a short range gravity field, which is why objects that it rolls over cling to it," the doctor continued. "The body that you're seeing isn't the Angel's actual body. It's more like a shell formed of all the stuff that the Angel has rolled over--would you kindly SHUT UP already!"

The singing stopped.

For a moment all was quiet. Makoto broke the silence.

"Doctor Akagi? Are you... really suggesting that the Angel is a freaking Katamari ball?"

The silence took on a new feeling as those who recognized it tried to keep from breaking out into laughter. Ritsuko blinked. Half the bridge crew simultaneously broke down in howls of laughter, Aoba leading a second acapella rendition of the theme.

"I don't see what's so funny..." Fuyutsuki muttered, turning away from the commander in disgust, as the other man tried vainly to cover his laughter with his fist.

<><><><>

Na Na Nana Na Na Nana Na
Na Na Nana Na Na Nana Na!
Katamari Damacy!
 

Watashiwa

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#50
Andrew Joshua Talon said:
Who is the new Commander?
Dunno. Haven't come up with a name for him yet.

I know he's probably American, and that he was been installed as Commander by the UN as a prerequisite for reactivating NERV, but other than that he's a blank slate. I might have him be a closet otaku, just for the lulz.

I might just have him be called "the Commander" as a reference to how in the Carmen Sandiego games you never learned the name of your boss.
 
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