Harry Potter Alternate Teachers for Hogwarts
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To be fair, Spartans thought that women were unworthy of affection and just there to spawn more boys. It's likely that they view those as genuine affection, not molesting.
That said, Kratos actually turned out to be a total chump with Pandora. He failed miserably the "Don't give a damn" check, and flat out refused to cause her harm even though that was the only way to proceed. Then she made the decision for him, and he had a BSOD over it.
Mostly, the kids will be fine so long as they aren't stupid dicks and really piss him off. Kratos actually has some sensibility towards kids due to being a father, and a devoted one at that. He just has a low bullshit tolerance threshold and a very violent way of dealing with it.
That said, Kratos actually turned out to be a total chump with Pandora. He failed miserably the "Don't give a damn" check, and flat out refused to cause her harm even though that was the only way to proceed. Then she made the decision for him, and he had a BSOD over it.
Mostly, the kids will be fine so long as they aren't stupid dicks and really piss him off. Kratos actually has some sensibility towards kids due to being a father, and a devoted one at that. He just has a low bullshit tolerance threshold and a very violent way of dealing with it.
Charms Professor and Head of Ravenclaw House: Red Mage Statskowsky
Physical Education Teacher and Head of Gryffindor House: Black Belt...or Dragoon
Head Nurse, Healer, and Head of Hufflepuff House: White Mage
Potions Master and Head of Slytherin House: Prince Elf (AKA Thief)
Defense Against the Dark Arts Teacher: Black Mage Evilwizardington
Groundskeeper: Fighter McWarrior
Headmaster: Sarda
Voldemort is the least of the Wizarding World's problems if The Light Warriors are their champions.
Physical Education Teacher and Head of Gryffindor House: Black Belt...or Dragoon
Head Nurse, Healer, and Head of Hufflepuff House: White Mage
Potions Master and Head of Slytherin House: Prince Elf (AKA Thief)
Defense Against the Dark Arts Teacher: Black Mage Evilwizardington
Groundskeeper: Fighter McWarrior
Headmaster: Sarda
Voldemort is the least of the Wizarding World's problems if The Light Warriors are their champions.
I'm pretty sure that from the Spartans' point of view our 'culture' is barbaric and revolting too. Unfortunately these things are like asses = everybody has one and nobody thinks theirs stinks.
Also, given how Spartans rarely got past 30 years, I'm pretty sure that for them 'pedophile' was a good, good deal younger than for us. A Spartan male was pretty much an adult as soon as he hit 10 years (or was it 8? Never remember), and as such to then our culture that pampers our young for what in their eyes is over half a lifetime would be not only ridiculous, but downright unacceptable.
Things like paedophilia only make sense to us, today, when life expectancy ISN'T 30 years old or so. When you are going to almost certainly die within three decades, sexual relationships at a young age become both common and necessary to ensure generation turnover, and saying things like 'they are too young' will get you laughed at or booted out of town for being a naive fool.
So I honestly have a hard time viewing that as paedophilia. It's questionable by today's standards, no doubt, but in light of the ridiculously short life expectancy back then, sexual relations between the same sex at a young age were both common and acceptable simply because, well, waiting was not an option.
Most people who talk about paedophilia in that day and age forget that people back then didn't have the luxury of an average lifespan in the 80s. Death rates were tremendously high even for non fighters, and fighters were even worse off. As such they lived hard and fast, and blazed through their existence far faster than we did.
They'd be contemptuous of our lifestyle, I suspect.
Also, given how Spartans rarely got past 30 years, I'm pretty sure that for them 'pedophile' was a good, good deal younger than for us. A Spartan male was pretty much an adult as soon as he hit 10 years (or was it 8? Never remember), and as such to then our culture that pampers our young for what in their eyes is over half a lifetime would be not only ridiculous, but downright unacceptable.
Things like paedophilia only make sense to us, today, when life expectancy ISN'T 30 years old or so. When you are going to almost certainly die within three decades, sexual relationships at a young age become both common and necessary to ensure generation turnover, and saying things like 'they are too young' will get you laughed at or booted out of town for being a naive fool.
So I honestly have a hard time viewing that as paedophilia. It's questionable by today's standards, no doubt, but in light of the ridiculously short life expectancy back then, sexual relations between the same sex at a young age were both common and acceptable simply because, well, waiting was not an option.
Most people who talk about paedophilia in that day and age forget that people back then didn't have the luxury of an average lifespan in the 80s. Death rates were tremendously high even for non fighters, and fighters were even worse off. As such they lived hard and fast, and blazed through their existence far faster than we did.
They'd be contemptuous of our lifestyle, I suspect.
A fair number of things about ancient Greece would be considered wrong by our standards. Despite what Clash of the Titans would lead you to believe, all Perseus did, according to many sources, is cut the head off a pregnant rape victim as she slept, and run like hell when her sisters woke up.
And by their standards, with snipers, missiles and submarines, we'd be considered disgusting cowards in war-time, and many would think our concepts of female equality, the ways we raise our kids and monogamy were weird.
And by their standards, with snipers, missiles and submarines, we'd be considered disgusting cowards in war-time, and many would think our concepts of female equality, the ways we raise our kids and monogamy were weird.
Doesn't mean they'd be right. Frankly, cultural relativism only goes so far. There's stuff that can be chalked up to "different culture, can't really judge", but absolute cultural relativism has... problems. For instance, advocating new social values is always ethically wrong. And, if you'll forgive a little reducto ad Hitlerum, it means you can't say "The Holocaust was wrong". How dare you judge the German people for their cultural belief that Jews are less than human? The question isn't "can you judge other cultures", the question is what aspects can be judged, and how harshly.
Also, you're reading the life expectancy wrong. A life expectancy of 30 years doesn't mean people drop dead at thirty, it means that a disturbingly large percentage of newborns don't make it to age ten, but the ones who do have a good chance of making it to their fifties. It averages out to 30 years, but that doesn't mean, "gee, we'd better start having kids when we're ten". (Which is biologically impossible in almost all cases, anyway.) Mind you, people were considered adults at a much younger age than they are today - the Jewish Bar Mitzvah, which traditionally marked the start of adulthood, occurs at 13, for instance. A quick <a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty_in_ancient_Greece' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>wiki walk</a>, however, indicates that the Greek youths in question probably were considered children, at least at the start of the relationship.
Also, you're reading the life expectancy wrong. A life expectancy of 30 years doesn't mean people drop dead at thirty, it means that a disturbingly large percentage of newborns don't make it to age ten, but the ones who do have a good chance of making it to their fifties. It averages out to 30 years, but that doesn't mean, "gee, we'd better start having kids when we're ten". (Which is biologically impossible in almost all cases, anyway.) Mind you, people were considered adults at a much younger age than they are today - the Jewish Bar Mitzvah, which traditionally marked the start of adulthood, occurs at 13, for instance. A quick <a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty_in_ancient_Greece' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>wiki walk</a>, however, indicates that the Greek youths in question probably were considered children, at least at the start of the relationship.
Thank you.
Especially since the agoge began at age 7. That's not a romantic relationship.
It was roughly analogous to being a page to a medieval knight, since it ended at 15 (IIRC), and then you were apprenticed to a soldier for a while (eg squire).
As for the biological impossibility (and cultural relativism for that matter)... my aunt is a nurse, and she was once called on to deliver a child for a nine-year-old girl. IIRC, the girl came from a Muslim family, and had an arranged marriage. To make matters worse, her husband didn't want a C-section (again, IIRC, all I know for sure is that she didn't get one). I never asked her about her job again after that. There are some thing you just don't want to know.
Especially since the agoge began at age 7. That's not a romantic relationship.
It was roughly analogous to being a page to a medieval knight, since it ended at 15 (IIRC), and then you were apprenticed to a soldier for a while (eg squire).
As for the biological impossibility (and cultural relativism for that matter)... my aunt is a nurse, and she was once called on to deliver a child for a nine-year-old girl. IIRC, the girl came from a Muslim family, and had an arranged marriage. To make matters worse, her husband didn't want a C-section (again, IIRC, all I know for sure is that she didn't get one). I never asked her about her job again after that. There are some thing you just don't want to know.
You forget to take into account Spartan lifestyle. These kind of people actually found dying in their beds fairly unimpressive, a lot like the Norse did... so they weren't too terribly concerned about death on the battlefield, and even with their formidable fighting power, they took enough losses that yes, life expectancy for a Spartan soldier was around 30 years. Swords and spears have a habit of making sure getting past 30 is a pretty damn tough job.
Doubtful. According to Wikipedia, Spartans didn't leave active military service until age 30, and to make a long story short, if most of them died first, Sparta would have no economy and would cease to exist in short order. A society needs farmers and tradesmen far more than it needs gloriously dead soldiers, no matter what the cultural ideal is. (And yes, women could, and did, pick up much of the slack, but no ancient society can afford to lose half its population to the military.)