Naruto Children of the Fox
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Might not be Tsunade, but the village elders have been known to do what they want. After all, we still have Danzou to put into consideration, and we know how he feels about military issues. I'm sure he alone would consider the unborn children a prime military assest. I'd be surprised if he didn't support Akagi's research in hopes of getting more soldiers for Roots. After all, if it was found out, he'd still get the embryos from sympathetic nurses he has in place.
If he was in on her research, then he may have his own notes. And while he cannot gain access to her now, he doesn't need full access. He just needs a woman who is carrying a Kyuubi baby. If she's in the group, then she can hear who won't be doing it, and thus Danzo knows which ones he can get for Roots.
This is a guy after all, who I believe became the Mummy because he was in with the Uchiha who pissed off the Kyuubi enough for it to attack the Leaf. What little we've seen and know of him suggests he supports military power over freedoms, so I see him as the type that would force them to carry to term if he could. But if he has women in his ranks, you know they'd carry the unwanted ones to term.
This is a guy after all, who I believe became the Mummy because he was in with the Uchiha who pissed off the Kyuubi enough for it to attack the Leaf. What little we've seen and know of him suggests he supports military power over freedoms, so I see him as the type that would force them to carry to term if he could. But if he has women in his ranks, you know they'd carry the unwanted ones to term.
If one of the women dissapears he'll be found out. If she is willing she won't stay willing. There is a connection between all the women who came to term and Naruto. It won't matter if they despise him or not. Besides, anyone who sides with Danzo knows that they are committing treason.
This just isn't the type of risk he'd be willing to take.
This just isn't the type of risk he'd be willing to take.
Root is nothing if not secretive, much like the Uchiha meetings. Besides, they can only be found out if the babies make an appearance, suggesting that the ones Tsunade destroyed were not the ones she removed. And since no one remembers seeing Sai growing up.
So the question would be then: would Naruto sense them? If he could, then Root couldn't keep them in Konoha. And we know the Uchiha had a weapons storehouse in an abandoned city outside of the village. Who is to say Root doesn't have similar resources.
So the question would be then: would Naruto sense them? If he could, then Root couldn't keep them in Konoha. And we know the Uchiha had a weapons storehouse in an abandoned city outside of the village. Who is to say Root doesn't have similar resources.
Ok, Innortal, heres what you're suggesting.
If one of the unnamed people who were impregnated in the experiment decided to abort their baby, he would either a ) convince them forcibly to carry it to term, or B ) steal the fetus and implant it into someone else.
B ) is out. It just would not happen. Thats crossing a line that Danzo WOULD NOT CROSS. You cannot knock a woman out, rip her stomach open, remove a fetus, and then implant it into someone else, and expect to get away with it. Especially because Tsunade would be watching all these women like a hawk.
A ) doesnt change anything for him, either, because he STILL wouldn't be able to do anything with the child. He can't kidnap them, he can't kidnap the child, he can't do anything, simply because of how involved in this Tsunade is. There are no unknown pregnancies, as that doctor woman recorded everything meticulously. The people who are pregnant are known.
The only case where Danzo might stand a chance is if one of his ROOTs members get impregnated, which in and of itself is unlikely, simply due to how inancessible ANBU have to be. The chances woud be astronomical. Even then, he'd have to convince the mother to relinquish the child to him (something she might not be willing to do, no matter how devoted she was to him). And then he'd have to make sure Tsunade never found out he did it.
No, Danzo is not going to get a child. Or children. Whatever.
It'd take a plot hammer for it to happen.
If one of the unnamed people who were impregnated in the experiment decided to abort their baby, he would either a ) convince them forcibly to carry it to term, or B ) steal the fetus and implant it into someone else.
B ) is out. It just would not happen. Thats crossing a line that Danzo WOULD NOT CROSS. You cannot knock a woman out, rip her stomach open, remove a fetus, and then implant it into someone else, and expect to get away with it. Especially because Tsunade would be watching all these women like a hawk.
A ) doesnt change anything for him, either, because he STILL wouldn't be able to do anything with the child. He can't kidnap them, he can't kidnap the child, he can't do anything, simply because of how involved in this Tsunade is. There are no unknown pregnancies, as that doctor woman recorded everything meticulously. The people who are pregnant are known.
The only case where Danzo might stand a chance is if one of his ROOTs members get impregnated, which in and of itself is unlikely, simply due to how inancessible ANBU have to be. The chances woud be astronomical. Even then, he'd have to convince the mother to relinquish the child to him (something she might not be willing to do, no matter how devoted she was to him). And then he'd have to make sure Tsunade never found out he did it.
No, Danzo is not going to get a child. Or children. Whatever.
It'd take a plot hammer for it to happen.
Not what I meant to imply at all. 'Morality' usually means I'm on the other side.
However, in this case?
The parent doesn't want the child. Tsunade can abort the child, or she can put the child somewhere else. It's within her capabilities. Or, it isn't. However, as the 'She's not doing this' comes on moral grounds rather than 'she can't'...
How is it evil and immoral to take the fetus and put it elsewhere?
It performs the function the lady asked for - her not bearing 'the demon's' child.
So, if you have the option, why would you choose to kill a child? The child of the boy who's like a son to you?
Even forgetting the expedience argument, if Tsunade is capable of this I don't see any kind of immorality in taking an unwanted child and giving it to someone who wants it. I mean, how's adoption evil?
I'm not trying to get into a moral debate. I honestly don't understand the reasoning. I can't see how this is comparable to Orochimaru in the slightest.
I respect if he just doesn't want to do it, but I don't get the argument that was presented.
However, in this case?
The parent doesn't want the child. Tsunade can abort the child, or she can put the child somewhere else. It's within her capabilities. Or, it isn't. However, as the 'She's not doing this' comes on moral grounds rather than 'she can't'...
How is it evil and immoral to take the fetus and put it elsewhere?
It performs the function the lady asked for - her not bearing 'the demon's' child.
So, if you have the option, why would you choose to kill a child? The child of the boy who's like a son to you?
Even forgetting the expedience argument, if Tsunade is capable of this I don't see any kind of immorality in taking an unwanted child and giving it to someone who wants it. I mean, how's adoption evil?
I'm not trying to get into a moral debate. I honestly don't understand the reasoning. I can't see how this is comparable to Orochimaru in the slightest.
I respect if he just doesn't want to do it, but I don't get the argument that was presented.
Agreed. And the reason I pointed to Danzou is because we know he hated the Third. And we also know he has no problem making deals or breaking them for what he considers "the good of the village". So we know he's the type to see the children as potential military warriors.
The question is how far he would go to secure some for his own cause. Akagi sounds like someone Danzou would support.
Basically, he is an open character, because we don't know his full history.
But the author chooses in the end.
The question is how far he would go to secure some for his own cause. Akagi sounds like someone Danzou would support.
Basically, he is an open character, because we don't know his full history.
But the author chooses in the end.
It is evil because that is not what the mother of the fetus wanted or was told would happen. If she is offered an option of super magic ninja fetus transferral adoption and accepts, that's fine. But if she is offered an abortion and then instead Tsunade steals the fetus to implant into some other baby factory, that is not good.
What if it's what the father of the fetus wanted?
I'm abit split on this one. Baby is 50% mother and 50% father. And this way the mother got rid of the kid like she wanted and the father could keep it.
Isn't the option of abortion soly the decision of the mother just because it grows in her body? But now if it's removed from the body, couldn't the father have more say in it?
EDIT1: Once a baby is born, the mother loses alot of that 100% decision making she had. So why would the fetus be diffirent?
I'm abit split on this one. Baby is 50% mother and 50% father. And this way the mother got rid of the kid like she wanted and the father could keep it.
Isn't the option of abortion soly the decision of the mother just because it grows in her body? But now if it's removed from the body, couldn't the father have more say in it?
EDIT1: Once a baby is born, the mother loses alot of that 100% decision making she had. So why would the fetus be diffirent?
Good and evil are always a matter of interpretation and your point of view.
If Tsunade would do so without the knowledge of the mothers by breaking her word it would be a ninja thing to do. After all a ninja is (among other things) a murder, thief, liar, spy, saboteur, arsonist and most of all an opportunist. Most of these things are considered by most people as evil.
If Tsunade would do so without the knowledge of the mothers by breaking her word it would be a ninja thing to do. After all a ninja is (among other things) a murder, thief, liar, spy, saboteur, arsonist and most of all an opportunist. Most of these things are considered by most people as evil.
t: Because it is usually the mother that has to raise the child. Sometimes the father helps in raising the child. Sometimes the father abandons Mother and child for various reason. If something happens to the child the first held responsible is the mother. So for the mother the decision to carry the child to term has allot more impact than for the father. The father can walk away openly form the mother and his child without a lot of social fallout. If a mother tries the same their is usually a lot more repercussion.
So can we please cease this disscussion?
Actually she is a medic nin. Not a medic. With emphasis on nin. And just because you don't see allot of ninjas on screen preform acts of murder, theft, arson or sabotage doesn't mean it isn't done without the blink of an eye. We certainly see people lie and spy wit impunity.
And the will of fire is open to interpretation. After all the Hokage expresses the will of the fire. So if she does something it is the will of the fire. And I am certain that Tsunade could probably talk the females in question into an agreement that those females think means on thing, but Tsunade carried it out differently and still in accordance with the words of the agreement.
And the will of fire is open to interpretation. After all the Hokage expresses the will of the fire. So if she does something it is the will of the fire. And I am certain that Tsunade could probably talk the females in question into an agreement that those females think means on thing, but Tsunade carried it out differently and still in accordance with the words of the agreement.
Huh? This statment seems that it's chance of 1 in a million that the father helps bring the kid up. Sucks to live where you do if that is the norm.
Untrue, this would be true if the mother has custody of the child, if the father has custody it's him and if they share it's both of them.
True, but we are talking about removing the fetus, thus she is no longer carrying it.
Why? We are discussing diffirent way the story can go and what implications it can have. So this discussion isn't really off topic.
Untrue, this would be true if the mother has custody of the child, if the father has custody it's him and if they share it's both of them.
True, but we are talking about removing the fetus, thus she is no longer carrying it.
Why? We are discussing diffirent way the story can go and what implications it can have. So this discussion isn't really off topic.
Amberion said:
Baby stealing is a hokage thing.
Shodai and Nidaime probably stole Sarutobi from the crib, Sarutobi stole Orochimaru from the snake nest, Yondaime stole Naruto from the crib and then you ave Tsunade stealing Narutos kids.
Shodai and Nidaime probably stole Sarutobi from the crib, Sarutobi stole Orochimaru from the snake nest, Yondaime stole Naruto from the crib and then you ave Tsunade stealing Narutos kids.
Ohh Tsunade-hime! :lol:
Nooooooooooooooo, not the boots. Use fluffy bunny slippers instead, they hurt less.
On to the story though, how old are the kids? And how long was Naruto away in this fic?
Also going to qoute myself from the first children of the fox:
Never got an answer to that one, so just wondering if you have been switching ages, or have had Naruto gone longer then in canon?
On to the story though, how old are the kids? And how long was Naruto away in this fic?
Also going to qoute myself from the first children of the fox:
Never got an answer to that one, so just wondering if you have been switching ages, or have had Naruto gone longer then in canon?
t: If the concept bothers you so much - don't read the comments. Gmusick2k has not confirmed anything yet, so stop reading the theories. There is a rant forum if you want to debate immorality. t: Although, great premise. I dont think i've ever seen Naruto used as a breeding machine to further anyone's ambitions. Makes you wonder about the Make-Naruto-Into-A-Weapon premise -, much more useful to make his kids into them - no fox within. Also, i'm with the premise that any severely power-oriented clan, would accept this resolution, if only to further their own bloodline. You just have to watch the super arrogant ones, and the ones that hate Kyuubi.
But hey, Naruto knocking up 40 women and not knowing about it?
Priceless :rofl:
Looking forward to reading more, cheers.
[Shiranui Household]
ôMAEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEKO.ö
The sound of footsteps could clearly be heard through the wooden floorboard, the harsh pounding being an easy sign of the distress someone was currently under. Whoever it was, and the silver haired Tokubetsu Jounin currently eating a leisurely breakfast knew who, was doing everything in their power to elude the punishment that would be handed down if they were ever caught.
Popping the left over shred of toast into his mouth, Shiranui Genma stood up from the table and leisurely made his way to the door. Taking a stance in front of the door he started his own mental countdown.
The floorboards could be heard creaking, the sound of footsteps picking up more speed and coming closer by the second. There was more screaming and laughing before a dark blonde head popped out around the corner.
The young child, Maeko, dreading the consequence of being caught by his mother caught the corner of the door and made a sharp ninety degree angle, heading into the main room. His little feet almost tripped over themselves but he immediately righted himself.
Genma shook his head at the kids dexterity. Only two years old and he could see even at this early an age the girl was going to be something remarkable when she grew up.
Not even a second after the two year old girl came careening around the corner, his younger sister, Mai Shiaranui, came around hot on her heals.
ôMaeko, I told you aboutà..ö
Genma caught the fleet mooted Maeko, securing her smaller weight under his right under arm despite her constant squirming. ôYou looking for this?ö
Mai released a sigh, ôThanks. Been chasing after this little trouble maker all morning.ö
Lifting the girl up in both arms and bringing her to eye level, Genma asked, ôAny reason youÆre being so difficult this morning squirt?ö
The little girlÆs face scrunched up in a cute frown, almost bringing a smile to GenmaÆs face.
ôI wanna go play.ö
Mai walked up to her older brother and plucked her daughter away from his hands, and put her down. Kneeling down so that they she was almost eye to eye, Mai swept her hand through MaekoÆs still growing locks. ôSweety, I didnÆt say I wouldnÆt let you play, just not right now. We have some important business to take care of. YouÆre going to meet someone very important to you today.ö
Like waving a piece of candy in front of her, little Maeko seemed to forget all about her earlier complaint. ôAm I going to meet a new brother or sister?ö
Hiding the fit of giggles behind the palm of her hand, Mai shook her head. ôNo. IÆm not going to tell you because we want it to be a surprise.ö
ôEveryone will be there?ö
Mai nodded in answer. ôYes. All your aunts, brothers and sisters will be there.ö
Maeko brown colored eyes were shining like small diamonds as she threw her hands up in a loud shout. ôYay. IÆm going to get dressed kasaan.ö
ôOkay. IÆll be there to help you in a bit okay.ö
Genma waited until he knew his niece was out of hearing range, before he turned his eyes back to the glare of his sister.
Mai stood up, dusting her knees off. ôDonÆt start with me today okay. This is going to be rough enough without the added problem of an over protective brother.ö
ôAre you even going to let me get a word out before you jump down my throat at least,ö Genma argued back.
ôWeÆve been through this or what seems like a million times, but whatÆs done is done. I canÆt redo the past,ö Mai said in a matter of fact tone.
ôYou think everything should just be okay. After everything thatÆs been done,ö he asked incredulous.
Mai raised an eyebrow, ôSo what do you think we should do. That every woman that got pregnant form our own little lynch mob and go string Naruto up by his dick.ö
Completely caught off guard at his supposedly demure sisterÆs use of language Genma could only blink in confusion.
ôLook. I know you want to protect me but youÆre going about it the wrong way. Maeko came to me in the worst way imaginable, but I donÆt fault Naruto for it. He was as much a pawn as we were and even now I doubt he even knows it. Meanwhile IÆve had two years to grow use to the idea. So before you run off trying to get holy retribution on him think about this. There are over 30 kids heÆs fathered and heæs only sixteen years old. ThatÆs punishment enough.ö
Shiranui Genma was a simple man in his own eyes. He loved beautiful women, the village of Konoha, and his family. When all three were in working order then life was good. So when the Hokage calls your entire family into a meeting and you find out your little sister has been knocked up by a loony doctor with a batch of some kids sperm you get pissed.
You get pissed enough to hunt said doctor down and make an idiotic attempt to take out her ANBU guard in the process.
Oh the week heÆd spent in the hospital had not been fun. Apparently he hadnÆt been the only male to try it since the hospital had been filled to capacity with hot headed morons. Those were the HokageÆs words, not his.
Looking back he could say his family took it a lot better than he did. His grandfather has simply nodded and simply went on to how they were going to handle the less agreeable crowd. Never once letting anyone see if it bothered him that the villageÆs Jinchuuriki.
Genma wasnÆt too surprised by the lack of reaction. The old man had been an ANBU commander for almost 15 years. Hanzo Shiranui had been good friends with the former Sandaime Hokage. Only coming back to the forefront of the family to focus on clan matters after their father and motherÆs passing.
What did startle him was his younger sister. A girl who though very talented in the shinobi arts, which was easy to see with the Jounin ranking at such a young age, she had never mentioned at anytime she wanted children of any kind. Instead choosing to focus on advancing her career.
He initially raised the idea of adoption but his sister in a weird twist had been vehement about keeping the child. So much that they nearly came to blows before the older adults in attendance brought them back to their senses.
That was two years ago.
He loved his niece. The little girl had an infectious energy about here that swept up everyone in attendance. The harsh task master his grandfather had been to him and his sister growing up disappeared in front of the little girl. The maids spoiled her. His clan adored her. And even before she managed to throw her first kunai there were plans being made to make sure she had the best training she could get.
All in all things worked out for the better on their side of things.
But he was still pissed. At the object of his ire was Uzumaki Naruto. Call it childish but he wouldnÆt drop it till he had words with the boy about what plans he had for his sister and their daughter.
ôGenma, you lay one hand on him and I promise you youÆll be too charred from burns to chew on those disgusting senbon of yours,ö Mai threatened.
Genma frowned, ôYou really need to stop hanging around those crazy ass women you call sisters. YouÆre picking up bad habits.ö
One of those combat fans his sister loved so much shot out and left an impressive knot.
ôWatch your mouth. DonÆt want my little girl sounding like her foul mouthed uncle.ö
New snippet. No beta or anything. Put this together today after I reached nirvana from all the good food. You can prob tell who the woman is. Yeah it that Mai, and there are going to be other cameo's. Instead of going the OC route Im puling ninja's from other games, animes, cartoons and working them into the story. So Im asking for suggestions. Working on a listt now and its going to get longer as I add and delete some so who knows who will show up.
As far as the age thing. Its been three years. That was a typo in the unbeta'd part.
See anything that needs correcting just let me know.
ôMAEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEKO.ö
The sound of footsteps could clearly be heard through the wooden floorboard, the harsh pounding being an easy sign of the distress someone was currently under. Whoever it was, and the silver haired Tokubetsu Jounin currently eating a leisurely breakfast knew who, was doing everything in their power to elude the punishment that would be handed down if they were ever caught.
Popping the left over shred of toast into his mouth, Shiranui Genma stood up from the table and leisurely made his way to the door. Taking a stance in front of the door he started his own mental countdown.
The floorboards could be heard creaking, the sound of footsteps picking up more speed and coming closer by the second. There was more screaming and laughing before a dark blonde head popped out around the corner.
The young child, Maeko, dreading the consequence of being caught by his mother caught the corner of the door and made a sharp ninety degree angle, heading into the main room. His little feet almost tripped over themselves but he immediately righted himself.
Genma shook his head at the kids dexterity. Only two years old and he could see even at this early an age the girl was going to be something remarkable when she grew up.
Not even a second after the two year old girl came careening around the corner, his younger sister, Mai Shiaranui, came around hot on her heals.
ôMaeko, I told you aboutà..ö
Genma caught the fleet mooted Maeko, securing her smaller weight under his right under arm despite her constant squirming. ôYou looking for this?ö
Mai released a sigh, ôThanks. Been chasing after this little trouble maker all morning.ö
Lifting the girl up in both arms and bringing her to eye level, Genma asked, ôAny reason youÆre being so difficult this morning squirt?ö
The little girlÆs face scrunched up in a cute frown, almost bringing a smile to GenmaÆs face.
ôI wanna go play.ö
Mai walked up to her older brother and plucked her daughter away from his hands, and put her down. Kneeling down so that they she was almost eye to eye, Mai swept her hand through MaekoÆs still growing locks. ôSweety, I didnÆt say I wouldnÆt let you play, just not right now. We have some important business to take care of. YouÆre going to meet someone very important to you today.ö
Like waving a piece of candy in front of her, little Maeko seemed to forget all about her earlier complaint. ôAm I going to meet a new brother or sister?ö
Hiding the fit of giggles behind the palm of her hand, Mai shook her head. ôNo. IÆm not going to tell you because we want it to be a surprise.ö
ôEveryone will be there?ö
Mai nodded in answer. ôYes. All your aunts, brothers and sisters will be there.ö
Maeko brown colored eyes were shining like small diamonds as she threw her hands up in a loud shout. ôYay. IÆm going to get dressed kasaan.ö
ôOkay. IÆll be there to help you in a bit okay.ö
Genma waited until he knew his niece was out of hearing range, before he turned his eyes back to the glare of his sister.
Mai stood up, dusting her knees off. ôDonÆt start with me today okay. This is going to be rough enough without the added problem of an over protective brother.ö
ôAre you even going to let me get a word out before you jump down my throat at least,ö Genma argued back.
ôWeÆve been through this or what seems like a million times, but whatÆs done is done. I canÆt redo the past,ö Mai said in a matter of fact tone.
ôYou think everything should just be okay. After everything thatÆs been done,ö he asked incredulous.
Mai raised an eyebrow, ôSo what do you think we should do. That every woman that got pregnant form our own little lynch mob and go string Naruto up by his dick.ö
Completely caught off guard at his supposedly demure sisterÆs use of language Genma could only blink in confusion.
ôLook. I know you want to protect me but youÆre going about it the wrong way. Maeko came to me in the worst way imaginable, but I donÆt fault Naruto for it. He was as much a pawn as we were and even now I doubt he even knows it. Meanwhile IÆve had two years to grow use to the idea. So before you run off trying to get holy retribution on him think about this. There are over 30 kids heÆs fathered and heæs only sixteen years old. ThatÆs punishment enough.ö
Shiranui Genma was a simple man in his own eyes. He loved beautiful women, the village of Konoha, and his family. When all three were in working order then life was good. So when the Hokage calls your entire family into a meeting and you find out your little sister has been knocked up by a loony doctor with a batch of some kids sperm you get pissed.
You get pissed enough to hunt said doctor down and make an idiotic attempt to take out her ANBU guard in the process.
Oh the week heÆd spent in the hospital had not been fun. Apparently he hadnÆt been the only male to try it since the hospital had been filled to capacity with hot headed morons. Those were the HokageÆs words, not his.
Looking back he could say his family took it a lot better than he did. His grandfather has simply nodded and simply went on to how they were going to handle the less agreeable crowd. Never once letting anyone see if it bothered him that the villageÆs Jinchuuriki.
Genma wasnÆt too surprised by the lack of reaction. The old man had been an ANBU commander for almost 15 years. Hanzo Shiranui had been good friends with the former Sandaime Hokage. Only coming back to the forefront of the family to focus on clan matters after their father and motherÆs passing.
What did startle him was his younger sister. A girl who though very talented in the shinobi arts, which was easy to see with the Jounin ranking at such a young age, she had never mentioned at anytime she wanted children of any kind. Instead choosing to focus on advancing her career.
He initially raised the idea of adoption but his sister in a weird twist had been vehement about keeping the child. So much that they nearly came to blows before the older adults in attendance brought them back to their senses.
That was two years ago.
He loved his niece. The little girl had an infectious energy about here that swept up everyone in attendance. The harsh task master his grandfather had been to him and his sister growing up disappeared in front of the little girl. The maids spoiled her. His clan adored her. And even before she managed to throw her first kunai there were plans being made to make sure she had the best training she could get.
All in all things worked out for the better on their side of things.
But he was still pissed. At the object of his ire was Uzumaki Naruto. Call it childish but he wouldnÆt drop it till he had words with the boy about what plans he had for his sister and their daughter.
ôGenma, you lay one hand on him and I promise you youÆll be too charred from burns to chew on those disgusting senbon of yours,ö Mai threatened.
Genma frowned, ôYou really need to stop hanging around those crazy ass women you call sisters. YouÆre picking up bad habits.ö
One of those combat fans his sister loved so much shot out and left an impressive knot.
ôWatch your mouth. DonÆt want my little girl sounding like her foul mouthed uncle.ö
New snippet. No beta or anything. Put this together today after I reached nirvana from all the good food. You can prob tell who the woman is. Yeah it that Mai, and there are going to be other cameo's. Instead of going the OC route Im puling ninja's from other games, animes, cartoons and working them into the story. So Im asking for suggestions. Working on a listt now and its going to get longer as I add and delete some so who knows who will show up.
As far as the age thing. Its been three years. That was a typo in the unbeta'd part.
See anything that needs correcting just let me know.