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[LightningHunter]

DC's upcoming Batbook crossover event- wait, should this go here, or over in the relaunch thread... eh, fuck it.

<a href='http://www.newsarama.com/comics/scott-snyder-batman-night-of-owls-120111.html?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social%2Bmedia&utm_campaign=seo%2Bblitz&utm_content=Newsarama' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Interview with Scott Snyder on The Night of the Owls</a>

Also, several fights have been confirmed in Marvel's upcoming event Avengers vs X-Men:
Black Widow vs Psylocke
Iron Man vs Magneto
Thor vs Storm
Spider-Man vs Ice Man
Ms Marvel vs Rogue
Hulk vs Emma Frost
Luke Cage vs Beast

 

[A Curious Stranger]

Iron Man vs Magneto

This isn't going to end well.

Also, I'm so hyped for the Night of the Owls. Scott Snyder can write some damn good Batman. My only problem with him was that he made Jim Gordon's rarely mentioned son into a psycho.

 

[LightningHunter]

Iron Man vs Magneto

This isn't going to end well.

I'd love to just see Magneto curbstomp Iron Man but I get the feeling Tony will win because the plot requires it.

 

[ttestagr]

Actually, the plot will probably give the victory to Mags. Because Storm is going to get her ass absolutely handed to her by Thor. Again. It happened in the second Secret Wars. She threw everything she had at him and he just stood there and laughed. Then he caught her and won by making out with her so hard she passed out.

 

[zeebee1]

Storm is basically a massively weaker version of Thor anyways.

If the Hulk loses you know something is wrong. I'm pretty sure he's immune to telepathic attacks what with the massive amounts of personalities that could take over if one is defeated.

 

[pacifist]

Ms Marvel vs Rogue

Doesn't Rogue still have all of Marvel's powers and a personality imprint from last time they fought. Seem to recall the imprint was strong enough to take over her body when she slept back during the Australian arc.

Iron Man vs Magneto
Thor vs Storm

Definite curb stomps as posted above.

 

[Meinos Kaen]

Storm is basically a massively weaker version of Thor anyways.

If the Hulk loses you know something is wrong. I'm pretty sure he's immune to telepathic attacks what with the massive amounts of personalities that could take over if one is defeated.

There's a but. This isn't Banner Hulk. This is Red Hulk, and he has only one mind.

 

[LightningHunter]

Also, DC have announced which books of the New 52 are to be cancelled by May.

Static Shock, Men of War, Blackhawks, Mister Terrific, Hawk and Dove and O.M.A.C.

They will be replaced with:

BATMAN INCORPORATED û Writer: Grant Morrison. Artist: Chris Burnham. The acclaimed ongoing writer of ACTION COMICS, Grant Morrison, presents a fresh take on BATMAN INCORPORATED, in which the Batman brand is franchised globally in preparation for a major international threat.

? ? EARTH 2 û Writer: James Robinson. Artist: Nicola Scott. The greatest heroes on a parallel Earth, the Justice Society combats threats that will set them on a collision course with other worlds.

? ? WORLDSÆ FINEST û Writer: Paul Levitz. Artists: George Perez and Kevin Maguire. Stranded on our world from a parallel reality, Huntress and Power Girl struggle to find their way back to Earth 2. Perez and Maguire will be the artists on alternating story arcs.

? ? DIAL H û Writer: China MiÚville. Artist: Mateus Santoluoco. The first ongoing series from acclaimed novelist China MiÚville, this is a bold new take on a cult classic concept about the psychological effects on an everyman who accidentally gains powers to become a hero.

? ? G.I. COMBAT û Writer: J.T. Krul. Artist: Ariel Olivetti. Featuring the return of a classic DC Comics series, THE WAR THAT TIME FORGOT, along with rotating back-up stories and creative teams û including THE UNKNOWN SOLDIER, with writers Justin Gray and Jimmy Palmiotti and artist Dan Panosian; and THE HAUNTED TANK, with writer John Arcudi and artist Scott Kolins.

? ? THE RAVAGERS û Writer: Howard Mackie. Artist: Ian Churchill. Spinning off from TEEN TITANS and SUPERBOY, this series finds four superpowered teens on the run and fighting against the organization that wants to turn them into supervillains.

 

[Hashasheen]

Also, DC have announced which books of the New 52 are to be cancelled by May.

Static Shock, Men of War, Blackhawks, Mister Terrific, Hawk and Dove and O.M.A.C.

They will be replaced with:

BATMAN INCORPORATED û Writer: Grant Morrison. Artist: Chris Burnham. The acclaimed ongoing writer of ACTION COMICS, Grant Morrison, presents a fresh take on BATMAN INCORPORATED, in which the Batman brand is franchised globally in preparation for a major international threat.

á á EARTH 2 û Writer: James Robinson. Artist: Nicola Scott. The greatest heroes on a parallel Earth, the Justice Society combats threats that will set them on a collision course with other worlds.

á á WORLDSÆ FINEST û Writer: Paul Levitz. Artists: George Perez and Kevin Maguire. Stranded on our world from a parallel reality, Huntress and Power Girl struggle to find their way back to Earth 2. Perez and Maguire will be the artists on alternating story arcs.

á á DIAL H û Writer: China MiÚville. Artist: Mateus Santoluoco. The first ongoing series from acclaimed novelist China MiÚville, this is a bold new take on a cult classic concept about the psychological effects on an everyman who accidentally gains powers to become a hero.

á á G.I. COMBAT û Writer: J.T. Krul. Artist: Ariel Olivetti. Featuring the return of a classic DC Comics series, THE WAR THAT TIME FORGOT, along with rotating back-up stories and creative teams û including THE UNKNOWN SOLDIER, with writers Justin Gray and Jimmy Palmiotti and artist Dan Panosian; and THE HAUNTED TANK, with writer John Arcudi and artist Scott Kolins.

á á THE RAVAGERS û Writer: Howard Mackie. Artist: Ian Churchill. Spinning off from TEEN TITANS and SUPERBOY, this series finds four superpowered teens on the run and fighting against the organization that wants to turn them into supervillains.

Saw most of those coming, but I'm kinda disappointed about Men of War, because that one was a pretty unique idea.

Of the new ones, I'm interested only in Earth-2 and World's Finest. Batman Incorporated is pretty meh in my opinion (though I'm loving Batwing), while Dial H, GI Combat, and The Ravagers are going to be wait and see.

 

[ttestagr]

Storm is basically a massively weaker version of Thor anyways.

If the Hulk loses you know something is wrong. I'm pretty sure he's immune to telepathic attacks what with the massive amounts of personalities that could take over if one is defeated.

Pretty sure that this is Red Hulk that is on the Avengers at the moment. Making him mad actually beats him because he burns out. Emma can start the process with telepathy and potentially take enough of a beating in diamond form to defeat him. Thunderbolt Ross is a pussy anyway.

 

[Lord Raine]

Stark's got a suit specifically in case he ever has to fight Magneto. It's all plastics, carbon-fiber, and specialized rubbers and nonferrous alloys.

Not saying he'll win, but depending on how he approaches it, he won't necessarily get his ass handed to him. Magneto and Stark both have power levels that fluctuate wildly depending on what the writer in charge is aiming to convey. Magneto can range from merely dangerous to using electromagnetism to conjure up motherfucking black holes. Stark ranges from a dangerous normal who uses advanced science to win to the drunken lovechild of Batman and Tom Swift with a power suit fetish.

Magneto has the obvious edge, but I wouldn't call it a curbstomp. Not yet. It's certainly not in the same league as Storm vs Thor. Storm has always Worfed and been mostly useless in comparison to staples like Banner and Logan. Plus, Thor is literally everything she is only better, and that's in addition to being a god and having a powerful legendary artifact of magic and/or high technology.

Storm vs Thor is like, say, Hulk vs Beast. Both characters fit the same niche, but one is so much better at what they do that it's not even funny. Hulk would smash Beast to paste if they ever fought seriously, and by the same comparison, it's less a question of "will Thor win" and more a question of "will he win by kicking the shit out of Storm or by making out with her until she passes out?"


Gotta get that Swift reference in there.

 

[TC_Hazard]

Spider-Man vs Ice Man

Not even getting into the other fights, the only way this makes sense is if the two decide to not take it seriously at all (which would be amusing to see).

As much of a fan of Spider-Man as I am, it makes no sense to put him against the Omega level mutant.

 

[A Curious Stranger]

Storm is basically a massively weaker version of Thor anyways.

If the Hulk loses you know something is wrong. I'm pretty sure he's immune to telepathic attacks what with the massive amounts of personalities that could take over if one is defeated.

Pretty sure that this is Red Hulk that is on the Avengers at the moment. Making him mad actually beats him because he burns out. Emma can start the process with telepathy and potentially take enough of a beating in diamond form to defeat him. Thunderbolt Ross is a pussy anyway.

What the hell happened to Bruce anyway? I saw an issue of the Hulk in a bookstore and leafed through it to come out utterly confused.

Bruce and Hulk got separated, only Bruce is dying of brain cancer now and needs the Hulk back to keep himself alive. Hulk is still smart and doing his own thing of being basically a barbarian hero and attracting some random Brunette who's part of a super secret organization dedicated to hunting down mad scientists. Of which Bruce now qualifies because he's injecting gamma rads into every animal he can find on a deserted volcanic island littered with low quality rads or something.

Where the hell is Skaar and why is General D-Bag Ross on the goddamn Avengers?

What the fuck happened?

 

[Ordo]

it's less a question of "will Thor win" and more a question of "will he win by kicking the shit out of Storm or by making out with her until she passes out?"

...and then Sif kills her?

What the fuck happened? [/QUOT]

Likely some editorial mandate.

 

[A Curious Stranger]

it's less a question of "will Thor win" and more a question of "will he win by kicking the shit out of Storm or by making out with her until she passes out?"

...and then Sif kills her?

Sif and Thor aren't even together anymore. After Ragnarok happened and she got rezzed, Thor's been too busy angsting or stabilizing Asgard to see her. Hell, the last time I remember actually seeing her in action was when she was helping Beta Ray Bill and his new Beau kill some aliens.

 

[zeebee1]

If they say the Hulk they better mean the Hulk and not that phony Red Hulk.

 

[Lord Raine]

Honestly, I've never understood the idea of separating Bruce and the Hulk at all. I can understand the desire to make the Hulk intelligent; there are, after all, only so many times you can reiterate HULK SMASH before it gets a little old.

What people seem to forget, though, is that Bruce is a freaking genius, on par with Stark and Mr. Fantastic. If you want an intelligent, coherent Hulk, just give Bruce increased control and clarity while in his Hulk form. Hulk shouldn't be getting more dangerous because he gets mutated again, or turns read, or whatever. He should be getting more dangerous because Banner should, over time, be taking more and more control over that form and power.

Have Banner dabble in martial arts and take control of the monster. Congratulations, you've just made Hulk considerably more dangerous than all of his current iterations. Plus, Banner is a scientist. He could easily invent weapons or armor specifically for himself to use while in Hulk form. There are all sorts of designs for firearms and artillery that aren't viable because the recoil is too severe. Guess what the Hulk can do? Carry a firearm the size of a car like it weighs nothing. Guess what the Hulk would never have to worry about? Recoil.

The Hulk can already swing an I beam so hard it can cut halfway through a tank. What do you think he could do with a scientifically engineered big fucking sword? Put some vibranium or adamantium on the edge, and watch the threat multiply.

You want an event? Here's an event for you. Bruce Banner and Tony Stark compare notes. There's your event.

 

[goldenarms]

Stark's got a suit specifically in case he ever has to fight Magneto. It's all plastics, carbon-fiber, and specialized rubbers and nonferrous alloys.

I'd argue that wouldn't mean shit, since Magneto can simply freeze him in place via the metallic salts in the human body, but then you go on and bring up the wildly fluctuating power levels and I'm forced to concede to the possibility.

Also, is Storm still married to Black Panther? Because Thor winning by smooching her senseless here would be giggly-giggly to me.

 

[Prince Charon]

You want an event? Here's an event for you. Bruce Banner and Tony Stark compare notes. There's your event.

I'd read it.

 

[Maelgrim]

As I recall they did have Banner himself turning into a tech wizard for a while with a line in personal force-fields and stuff which made him surprisingly dangerous and that one of the things which made the Green Scar Hulk so dangerous was that he and Banner were working together. (When the writers remembered Banner at all)

Dunno what happened to all that.

 

[LightningHunter]

Anyway... I found out some of these fights may not take place. I know some have been confirmed, like Namor vs Thing, but some apparently have just been put as teasers or whatever(unless someone at Marvel just is making this up to try and maintain some mystery). But I'll keep posting anyway, because this is probably the best indication of at least some of the fights.

Anyway, whoever it was wondering which Hulk I meant when I said Emma Frost is fighting the Hulk...

Should answer your question.

Anyway, the other "teasers" have depicted the following fights. Again, I imagine a few are bound to happen, but nothing

Luke Cage vs Beast
The Thing vs Colossusnaut (I'm pretty sure Thing is confirmed to fight Namor, so this one is probably unlikely)
Spider-Woman vs Gambit
Daredevil vs Archangel (Oh how cute, symbolism)

Even if this one doesn't happen, at least we now know which side Wolverine's picking.

Oh, and:

I'll leave it to someone else to make the obligatory "arrow to the knee" joke.

I still don't think this event could end without Cyclops fighting Captain America, so I'd still doubt some of these, or some people are just going to be passed around through a lot of fights.

Also, on the DC side, well...

Now Rob Liefeld has had Hawk and Dove fail on him, he's being allowed to take over writing and illustrating Deathstroke and then will be plotting Grifter and Savage Hawkman from May.

Just... well, at least these series haven't been doing so well lately, from what I've heard.

And I'm not sure about what it means to have a man famous for ripping off a certain character and then becoming the writer and artist for that same character's series.

 

[Lord Raine]

You have to get up really early in the morning to draw worse than Rob Liefield, but whoever is responsible for this is a true champion of shitty drawing.

 

[A Curious Stranger]

and then will be plotting Grifter

NNNNNNOOOOOOO!!!

 

[GenocideHeart]

You have to get up really early in the morning to draw worse than Rob Liefield, but whoever is responsible for this is a true champion of shitty drawing.

That'd be Romita Jr.

Also, Banner did have total control over Hulk for a brief time. It sucked. Hulk became a goddamn arrogant nobody-likes-him Mary Sue who was ultimately retconned back into being a dumb brute with a puny supersmart alter ego.

Most fans still pretend the Pantheon saga didn't happen.

Also, if you want a smart Hulk that's not insanely angry with rage like the Green Scar, just bring back Joe Fixit. He was smart enough that when he fought Thing (who at the time was STRONGER than Fixit), he won by actually using his brain - he used a Heimlich maneuver to nearly drown Ben (contrary to popular belief, yes, Thing does need to breathe) after outmaneuvering him and luring him in a trap.

Yes, a non-Red Hulk other than the Maestro and Pantheon Hulk managed to outsmart someone. Imagine that.

 

[Lord Raine]

See, when I think smartHulk, I think of a Hulk with Banner's intelligence and personality. Genius, scientist, articulate, preferring not to fight if he can avoid it, but since his body is the Hulk, he can obviously throw down if the situation requires it.

I guess what I'm really saying is I want a Scientist Hulk.