Dresden Files

nick012000

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Rahlian said:
Well, if you are going to flaunt the fact that some of us are behind on the times, at least you are kind enough to spoiler the shit. i have had to boycott several of my forums coz of dickwads not marking spoilers and shit.

Edit: removed from MF already... -_-
I was spoilering it. That's why I changed the color to be the same as the forum background. Or does this forum have actual spoiler tags? *tests* Doesn't look like it.
 
nick012000 said:
Rahlian said:
Well, if you are going to flaunt the fact that some of us are behind on the times, at least you are kind enough to spoiler the shit. i have had to boycott several of my forums coz of dickwads not marking spoilers and shit.

Edit: removed from MF already... -_-
I was spoilering it. That's why I changed the color to be the same as the forum background. Or does this forum have actual spoiler tags? *tests* Doesn't look like it.
It may depend on your browser, I seem to recall some people complaining about it on another forum, but the color=transparent may work for you.

Spoiler - If this is hidden it worked.
 

Rahlian

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To clarify, I wasn't complaining about people posting spoilers without warning, I was thanking them for coloring them out.
 

nick012000

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NuitTombee said:
nick012000 said:
Rahlian said:
Well, if you are going to flaunt the fact that some of us are behind on the times, at least you are kind enough to spoiler the shit. i have had to boycott several of my forums coz of dickwads not marking spoilers and shit.

Edit: removed from MF already... -_-
I was spoilering it. That's why I changed the color to be the same as the forum background. Or does this forum have actual spoiler tags? *tests* Doesn't look like it.
It may depend on your browser, I seem to recall some people complaining about it on another forum, but the color=transparent may work for you.

Spoiler - If this is hidden it worked.
Huh. Wasn't aware we had transparent color options on this forum. I opened up a screenshot in paint, and sampled the color of the background. ;)

Also, the reveals about the Outside in this book are seriously making me consider a Homestuck crossover, where the Kid's meteor goes flying over the Outer Gate after flying through a dream bubble and getting duplicated because LOL Furthest Ring space-time fuckery.

EDIT: Also, <a href='http://>https://anonfiles.com/file/652642d42fe5f78a903daad3ad0bf254' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>another</a> uploaded copy!
 

shiki

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Well, I finished it before going off to eat lunch. That was a quick 2 and a half hours of Dresden kicking ass. And it will be another year before the next one comes out.. T_T

At first I was like: Ok -> Interesting -> I like where this is going (stayed in this stage for a majority of the book)-> Son of a bitch, Why? (was my reaction for a second) -> Ok, not all is lost, there is still hope for it -> Okay, I see where this is going(a number of chapters or so before the twist) -> Son of a Bitch, I saw it going that way but it went sideways (was expecting something else and another alternate possibility and ended with being half right)-> Oh, hey... this means that!!!! -> Oh, boo... eh, it will only be a short thing for all they reasons that they addressed -> Next Book now plz.

As a side note that has nothing to do with ... well pretty much anything- Way to go Butters! I always liked him more than many of the side characters... probably has to do with the dinosaur but he is reaping the benefits of being awesome now.

Edit: and Toot. Can't believe I forgot about his luck. Go for it Toot-Toot!
 

elof

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Arcis Tor Therapy Clinic. Guaranteed seventy seven days therapy or you'll end up in a body bag.
 

jwang

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Holy fucking shit. I was definitely not expecting that ending. I mean, you kinda expected something similar, but that twist... Man!

Also, Harry's relationship with the Ladies just got a lot more complicated. And possibly kinkier.
 

nick012000

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jwang said:
Holy fucking shit. I was definitely not expecting that ending. I mean, you kinda expected something similar, but that twist... Man!

Also, Harry's relationship with the Ladies just got a lot more complicated. And possibly kinkier.
As always, Harem Route is best route. ;) :p

Is it just me, though, or does anyone else think that Sarissa had the right idea, by refusing to make the Choice? Get most of the perks of being a Faerie (if not the raw power or grace most of them possess), without the restrictions of doing so and retaining your own free will.
 

shiki

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Nick, knock it off. Quit being one of THOSE guys. I would like to say that it is beyond you, but history speaks for itself.

You are the only one in this thread putting out spoilers.

At least wait until after release day, jeez.

In much less polite terms: Stop being an ass.
 

Inaba

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Skimmed it and ended up not caring about it. I think I'm going to have to end up dropping the series because it's not the series for me.
 

nick012000

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shiki said:
Nick, knock it off. Quit being one of THOSE guys. I would like to say that it is beyond you, but history speaks for itself.

You are the only one in this thread putting out spoilers.

At least wait until after release day, jeez.

In much less polite terms: Stop being an ass.
Okay, post editted. Geeze. Cut a guy a little slack for wanting to talk about the book he just read with the other people who have done so as well. <_<
 

Avider

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Vord enemy not good.
Overused of cliffhangers. (They're not good either.)

New stuff good, old stuff not good.

Prose is terrible...but pretty much all the books are like that, only world building saves it. (Hence old stuff not good. Once you remove the world building, the mediocre writing really is apparent...)

It's better than Ghost Story.


(Also, Winter Ladies are like a dime a dozen yo.)
 

pidl

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Liked the book, and really liked the world building. Lots of things now make more sense.

Spoiler: Am wondering about the repurcussions of a human Winter Lady. Will Molly be able to lie or not?
 

pidl

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blueneck said:
Read the ending again. I think Mab was too.
I figured she meant she was a changeling once as well and the mantle just put her fully in the faery side.
 

Takerial

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So does this mean that back in Book 4 when Mab basically stole Lea's debt on Harry, she was indirectly protecting him from THAT?

And that if he hadn't gotten that 1 year and 1 day protection from her, he might have been screwed as well.
 

pidl

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Takerial said:
So does this mean that back in Book 4 when Mab basically stole Lea's debt on Harry, she was indirectly protecting him from THAT?

And that if he hadn't gotten that 1 year and 1 day protection from her, he might have been screwed as well.
I'm not sure about the 1 year and a day thing. Cait Sith didn't seem to be held by his oaths anymore, so perhaps Lea wasn't as well.
 

hitash

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that's a good point, i'm just glad that we finally got some answers about the black council.

the payoff on the murphy/dresden was nice too. my personal favorite line from this one was "so basically you're Mab's BFF"
 

nick012000

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hitash said:
that's a good point, i'm just glad that we finally got some answers about the black council.

the payoff on the murphy/dresden was nice too. my personal favorite line from this one was "so basically you're Mab's BFF"
Mine was when he took control of the Wyld Hunt.

Also, poor Mab. Lost both of her daughters as once. That ending, man.
 

Takerial

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pidl said:
Takerial said:
So does this mean that back in Book 4 when Mab basically stole Lea's debt on Harry, she was indirectly protecting him from THAT?

And that if he hadn't gotten that 1 year and 1 day protection from her, he might have been screwed as well.
I'm not sure about the 1 year and a day thing. Cait Sith didn't seem to be held by his oaths anymore, so perhaps Lea wasn't as well.
Hrm, but it seemed like she was still aiding him with Mab's wishes in the book.

So maybe it depends on if you're fully taken or not?

Either way, Mab taking his debt takes on a whole other tone with this in play.
 

TC_Hazard

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pidl said:
Takerial said:
So does this mean that back in Book 4 when Mab basically stole Lea's debt on Harry, she was indirectly protecting him from THAT?

And that if he hadn't gotten that 1 year and 1 day protection from her, he might have been screwed as well.
I'm not sure about the 1 year and a day thing. Cait Sith didn't seem to be held by his oaths anymore, so perhaps Lea wasn't as well.
Cait Sith also seemed to have no idea about the orders Mab had given him.

On the other hand, Maeve seemed to have all her memories so maybe the infection (possession?) is not the same for everyone and varies depending on what is needed.

I mean, if we take the 'just about every previous bad guy was infected' at face value, then Aurora seemed to honestly think she was doing the right thing, rather than being aware she was part of some dark conspiracy.
 
The infection seems to work in different ways, depending on how nemesis wants it to work. When posible, it will go through the subtle route slowly changing you so that your goals are its goals. If necessary, it will however pretty much walk in your skin to get the job done. It needed the Cat Sidhe now so it did the second option. With Aurora, it had the time to do the first option.
 

Takerial

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Masterwindu487 said:
The infection seems to work in different ways, depending on how nemesis wants it to work. When posible, it will go through the subtle route slowly changing you so that your goals are its goals. If necessary, it will however pretty much walk in your skin to get the job done. It needed the Cat Sidhe now so it did the second option. With Aurora, it had the time to do the first option.
Actually, I think Nemesis just took direct control of Cat Sidthe via the infection. So it seems anyone that is infected can be directly controlled if needed.

Otherwise, it seems like it's more subtle in the way it influences people. Like instead of direct control, it's whispers that alter personalities. And it seems different things can be whispered to get different effects.

And remember, it was Maeve who said that people who are infected would protect themselves if the knowledge was exposed. So it could have easily been a lie.
 

nick012000

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Takerial said:
Masterwindu487 said:
The infection seems to work in different ways, depending on how nemesis wants it to work.? When posible, it will go through the subtle route slowly changing you so that your goals are its goals.? If necessary, it will however pretty much walk in your skin to get the job done.? It needed the Cat Sidhe now so it did the second option.? With Aurora, it had the time to do the first option.
Actually, I think Nemesis just took direct control of Cat Sidthe via the infection. So it seems anyone that is infected can be directly controlled if needed.

Otherwise, it seems like it's more subtle in the way it influences people. Like instead of direct control, it's whispers that alter personalities. And it seems different things can be whispered to get different effects.

And remember, it was Maeve who said that people who are infected would protect themselves if the knowledge was exposed. So it could have easily been a lie.
You are now hearing the Nemesis using <a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4cokDb68jc' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Harbinger</a>'s voice. ;)
 

shiki

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Other than the obvious awesome stuff that went down, I can't wait until the book where Harry time travels. I, however, will not like any of the inevitable Back to the Future allusions... even worse if he actually sees his mum.

Every time he meets with the Gatekeeper, something new is revealed that comes into fruition 3~5 books later, so I am expecting it soon.

I fully expect Harry to break every single Rule of Magic before the end. Can't forget about Harry's impending smackdown with the White Council either, fully expect that to happen very soon.

edit: Cold Days also triggered a memory... Proven Guilty now means much more to the series than previously. It has a lot more there and makes much more sense now. I think I also spotted one instance of time travel as well, at least I think I did.

Connecting some dots there and I don't like what I'm getting. But for sure, some of those earlier books have much more significance now. Might have to reread some of them to pull some more clues.
 
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