Nasuverse Fate/Zero Anime
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The invoking of Rider's RM was impressive. The fight using it was rather anti-climatic. Then again, Assassin was/were in a situation where his/her/their skills were essentially useless, facing a numerically superior foe, each of which was at least the equal of an individual Assassin. So the stomping wasn't exactly unexpected.
To be a true Game Breaker, you need to invoke Rider's RM and 5th War Archer's RM simultaneously. Ionioi Hetairoi armed with Unlimited Blade Works. That would Curb Stomp anything.
To be a true Game Breaker, you need to invoke Rider's RM and 5th War Archer's RM simultaneously. Ionioi Hetairoi armed with Unlimited Blade Works. That would Curb Stomp anything.
Hm, it seems to me that Gilgamesh's Ea can still trump a combination of Ionian Hetairoi and Unlimited Blade Works, but I'll admit that Nasu-verse canon isn't my strong point.
Having said that, I'm a bit disappointed that the depiction of Ionian Hetairoi is another case of 'charge wildly and never mind the formation' in depicting armies in the media. I would've been much happier if the scene had the Hetairoi keep in formation when overrunning the Assassins.
Having said that, I'm a bit disappointed that the depiction of Ionian Hetairoi is another case of 'charge wildly and never mind the formation' in depicting armies in the media. I would've been much happier if the scene had the Hetairoi keep in formation when overrunning the Assassins.
It's a matter of aesthetics.
Successful armies are built on discipline and coordination between its component pieces no matter the scale of its operations. Since Ionian Heitairoi embodies one of the most successful armies to ever exist, it should reflect those qualities. It should seem as though it's the legendary army of Megas Alexandros rather than generic undisciplined rabble that pre-gunpowder armies are often depicted as being in the media.
Well, that and I wanted to see a Macedonian phalangite advance roll right over the Assassins.
Successful armies are built on discipline and coordination between its component pieces no matter the scale of its operations. Since Ionian Heitairoi embodies one of the most successful armies to ever exist, it should reflect those qualities. It should seem as though it's the legendary army of Megas Alexandros rather than generic undisciplined rabble that pre-gunpowder armies are often depicted as being in the media.
Well, that and I wanted to see a Macedonian phalangite advance roll right over the Assassins.
Isn't one of the few times it's advantageous to break formation and chase after your enemy is when their morale has broken and they've started to rout? That's pretty much what happened here; I mean the female Assassin didn't even try to fight, while almost all the others ran and got slaughtered. They just took one look at Alexander's army and went all SQUAD BROKEN. Had they actually put up a fight worthy of the name Alexander might have actually had his army use formations and tactics. 
nick012000 said:
Isn't one of the few times it's advantageous to break formation and chase after your enemy is when their morale has broken and they've started to rout? That's pretty much what happened here; I mean the female Assassin didn't even try to fight, while almost all the others ran and got slaughtered. They just took one look at Alexander's army and went all SQUAD BROKEN. Had they actually put up a fight worthy of the name Alexander might have actually had his army use formations and tactics.
Feigned retreats, units abandoning the battlefield in hot pursuit, and the same units being routed in turn when the opposition pulls its shit together are all possibilities. And even if it's an actual, across-the-board rout, letting the soldiers scatter across miles and miles doing God knows what is a complete logistical nightmare.
But I digress.
On a random note, why is Ionian Hetairoi called Ionian Hetairoi? I call see the Heitairoi, but why Ionian when Macedon was so much more northern?
Yup.
Also Alexander's reality marble is actually the composite of all the Heroes who wish to follow him, it seems rather difficult to displace it with anything. However, it can only last for a certain amount of time and if enough of them remain alive. Highlight for spoilers *MAJOR SPOILERS*:
Gilgamesh breaks the reality marble with Ea by killing half the army, causing it to collapse
Also Alexander's reality marble is actually the composite of all the Heroes who wish to follow him, it seems rather difficult to displace it with anything. However, it can only last for a certain amount of time and if enough of them remain alive. Highlight for spoilers *MAJOR SPOILERS*:
Gilgamesh breaks the reality marble with Ea by killing half the army, causing it to collapse
Impressive cliffhanger, though I do note that Caster is rewriting his own history to suit his own opinions. He claims that his death was caused because people wanted his money and lands. Nice theory, but at the time of his death he didn't have any money. He had spent it all on his occult research, his mystery play, and his taste for high living. And the only reason he still had lands was because the King forbade him from selling any more of them to pay off his debts.
On another note, there is now a 12 minute OVA entitled Fate/Prototype which appears to be a look at Fate/Stay Night as it was originally envisioned (With, among other things, a female Master summoning a male Arthur as Saber). Be warned, it's designed to look like a trailer (With no guarantee that the actual story will ever be made), so it doesn't make much sense as a self-contained story. The fact that the subtitling is absolutely atrocious doesn't help.
<a href='http://www.animetake.com/fateprototype-ova/' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Find it here.</a>
On another note, there is now a 12 minute OVA entitled Fate/Prototype which appears to be a look at Fate/Stay Night as it was originally envisioned (With, among other things, a female Master summoning a male Arthur as Saber). Be warned, it's designed to look like a trailer (With no guarantee that the actual story will ever be made), so it doesn't make much sense as a self-contained story. The fact that the subtitling is absolutely atrocious doesn't help.
<a href='http://www.animetake.com/fateprototype-ova/' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Find it here.</a>