Harry Potter HP & Sekirei

[chronodekar]

I was looking over the HP crossovers on FF.NET when I came across THIS mash-up,
<a href='http://www.fanfiction.net/Harry_Potter_and_Sekirei_Crossovers/224/3369/10/0/1/1/0/0/0/0/0/0/1/' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Harry Potter and Sekirei Crossovers</a>

Out of the 4-odd stories there, only 2 are worth anything IMO. And both of them revolve with the concept that Harry was essentially "abandoned" by ALL his friends and he left the UK. Somehow, he finds himself in Japan around the time the Sekirei Plan gets underway.

One of my biggest issues is that they have made Harry into some kind of GOD. As unsurprising as it is, it's also disappointing. And, the other, is as I've mentioned, how Harry was "abandoned" by his friends.

I want to ask - how could we make this crossover work? :huh:

One idea I have goes like this - At the end of the was with Voldemort, Harry emerges victorious. However, a huge price was paid. He lost many of his good friends (and love interests). He's powerful, but lost much of his drive. Somehow, he gets mixed up in the Sekirei Plan, but it starts out with a LOT of suspicion. Eventually, he warms up with them.

Another is to continue canon, but simply ignore his "relationship" with Ginny. It simply did NOT happen (and should never have to begin with :no: , but that's another discussion) . We'll just ignore the last epilogue that Rowling wrote and transport a battle-hardened Harry to the beginning or near end of the first phase of the Sekirei Plan.

Do we want that idiot Minato in the story at all? I'm not really sure. I'm not too enthusiastic about it, though. And for that matter, should Harry end up living with Miya? That too is up in the air, as far as I'm concerned.

Does anyone have any other ideas on how we could make this work? Also, what kind of ending would it have (both story and relationships) ?

-chronodekar

PS - no SLASH of any-kind is acceptable !!!! :rant:

 

[Kibbles]

One idea I have goes like this - At the end of the was with Voldemort, Harry emerges victorious. However, a huge price was paid. He lost many of his good friends (and love interests). He's powerful, but lost much of his drive. Somehow, he gets mixed up in the Sekirei Plan, but it starts out with a LOT of suspicion. Eventually, he warms up with them.

Why not just go with a golden ending, so to speak? Voldemort gets beaten, everyone lives, including all of Harry's friends and allies. He gets proclaimed a Hero (yes, Hero, not merely a hero) and there's fame, wealth and the unending attention of fans, politicians and supporters. Harry tries for a few months to be an Auror, finds it's simply not working with all the fame and attention ... then, wanting to be normal and generally ignored decides to move out of the country.

To the other side of the world reasoning that Japan would be far enough to put some distance between the populace of magical Britain and himself, as well as settle in a country where his name is virtually unknown.

Trouble, as always, follows.

Sekirei as a series isn't something well-suited for darker stories (well, you could make it work, but it'd wind up grim-dark fast: exploring the nature of free will and slavery mandated by DNA, as well as the mental aspects of such, well, it's not a pleasant subject). Keep it light-hearted and humorous. Harry gets involved in the plan, complaining all the while that he wants to be normal. His friends visit and remain completely blase about the whole affair, etc ...

Another is to continue canon, but simply ignore his "relationship" with Ginny. It simply did NOT happen (and should never have to begin with nono.gif , but that's another discussion) . We'll just ignore the last epilogue that Rowling wrote and transport a battle-hardened Harry to the beginning or near end of the first phase of the Sekirei Plan.

You could still have it happen. They're teenagers, you know. Relationships break up all the time, people figure out they're not right for each other. They dated, found out that they don't really click properly, then broke up. Friends, but no more.

Hell, that was one of the more annoying aspects I'd found in the books. Really? Everyone gets involved with their school sweetheart? They don't wind up marrying someone they'd met ten years after graduation like, you know, people do?

Do we want that idiot Minato in the story at all? I'm not really sure. I'm not too enthusiastic about it, though. And for that matter, should Harry end up living with Miya? That too is up in the air, as far as I'm concerned.

Minato is your typical harem protagonist, somewhat bland by nature. The story doesn't suffer for his exclusion (though, by extension, his sister and mother either get massively reduced roles or have to be removed outright). For a twist, have Harry and Miya be neighbours well before the plan starts. Being a wizard, he'd need space and privacy and a manor is perfect

PS - no SLASH of any-kind is acceptable !!!!? :rant:

Aww, damn. There goes my plan for an all-male harem. :blue: You made me sad.

Not really.

 

[He-who-voted-for-Kodos]

Does Homura count as slash? I mean, cause, you know....But seriously, I would say most of those ideas work, but also suggest something else: boredom. Harry spent 10 years with the Dursleys, 6 at Hogwarts with the breaks in between, and then a year on the run before beating Voldemort. What has he done in that time? Outside of school, practically the only thing he's done is hang out with the Weasleys and Hermione, hang out in Diagon Alley, and go to the Quidditch World Cup. Even in school, a chunk of his time was spent dealing with whatever nefarious plot was in the works for the year. So just say he's bored.

After beating Voldemort, Harry tried to do what was expected, become an Auror, continue his relationship with Ginny, be a national hero. But after a while, he realized most of it wasn't what he wanted. He'd spent the last 7 years fighting dark wizards; did he really want to continue? Ginny was a wonderful girl (note: not my actual opinion, just the view from the story perspective) but was she someone he wanted to spend his life with? He'd always wanted to be "just Harry," so why be in the spotlight as a national hero? Then he realizes, he's hardly seen anything. Those few places in the magical world, the area around Privet Drive, some of London, and that's basically it. So Harry, lacking in any particular goal with Voldemort dead, curious to see what the world has to offer, and happy to go somewhere where his name won't cause automatic hero worship, takes the money his parents and Sirius left (presumably a decent sum) and possibly a reward for offing Voldemort, and goes on a world tour. This also offers a convenient opening in the plot for any abilities you give Harry. Question where he got something, how he learned something? Oh, that happened before he made it to Japan.

Then, just, you know. He winds up in Shin Tokyo, likes it, decides to hang out for while, runs into some Sekirei who reacts, etc. The real question I think is which one. My first answer is Kazehana, what with her being the Wind Sekirei and Harry's love of flying. Musubi is another option, depending on how far you go with the "Power of Love" idea, but doesn't really seem to fit in my mind, plus I don't particularly care for her. Her more reasonable counterpart, Kaho, could work, though. Kusano I think would get the normal big-brother reaction. Akitsu is always a favorite, and Harry does have that "saving people thing," as Hermione so eloquently put it.

One aspect I think would be interesting would be if the Master of Death thing were brought in. Shiina's powers would be more accurately described as decay, but he is known as the Sekirei of Death. And how would Uzume react to the Cloak? Or Miya to the Resurrection Stone, and the possibility of seeing Takehito again?

And I think you might have to do something, like make Minaka magical, or have something from the ship give some kind of immunity, otherwise there's a laundry list of things that a more learned Harry could and would do to end the Sekirei Plan.

And then there's the hilarity that arises when someone from back home comes looking for Harry. Even better if it's Ginny or someone looking to get him to go back to her. "Really, Harry, don't you think you've had enough fun? You should come back home to Ginny and mar-" "Master, who is your friend?" "Akitsu, you forgot to get dressed."

 

[chronodekar]

I think I'm warming up to the idea that Harry just "left" the UK. To get away from the fame or boredom, I'll decide later.

As for the Sekirei, I'm not sure on who should be with him, but my only concern is Kuusano. Just thinking about her makes me go "underage..." and it's difficult to think of anything "spicy" with her around.

As for the rest of them - why not? Though, the wind Sekirei is a nice option. I forgot that Harry loved flying.

And He-who-voted-for-Kodos, you have a valid point - the idiot Minaka will need to get some new powers or at least, something similar. Hmm.. he discovers how to merge magic & technology? Could go a number of ways.

Harry and Miya as neighbors... Interesting idea. ^_^

The potential for some "old" friends of Harry to come by and see him, yes, comic Gold there. YES.

A story is forming in my mind, but I'm having trouble with the ending. Any suggestions? I could probably make something up to the 2nd or 3rd stage of The Plan, and even wind things up after that, but HOW?

I suppose that the existence of magic will need to be kept secret from most of the world, so some mind-wiping idiocy would be needed. MBI's director will need to be replaced or the company itself shutdown. Also, do the Sekirei stay with Harry happily afterwards, or do they terminate in the end? ... no, cancel that last one. :no: I can't write angst/tragedy. Ok, so they live happily, but ... hmm... what about the other Sekirei and Ashikabi?

:headbanger: Damn. Stuck in a block here.

-chronodekar

 

[The Eromancer]

Where I heard of the Sekirei game, my first thought was "this won't end well".

My second thought wen I learned more about it was "Minaka is a douche"

and my 3rd was "Karasuba needs a good hard pounding to get her mind off killing everyone" So, go go Master of Death?

 

[Kibbles]

A story is forming in my mind, but I'm having trouble with the ending. Any suggestions? I could probably make something up to the 2nd or 3rd stage of The Plan, and even wind things up after that, but HOW?

I suppose that the existence of magic will need to be kept secret from most of the world, so some mind-wiping idiocy would be needed. MBI's director will need to be replaced or the company itself shutdown. Also, do the Sekirei stay with Harry happily afterwards, or do they terminate in the end? ... no, cancel that last one.? :no:? I can't write angst/tragedy. Ok, so they live happily, but ... hmm... what about the other Sekirei and Ashikabi?

They obviously declare Code Ragnarok and the full might of the Technocratic Union descends upon MBI ... wait, wrong mages, albeit the concept could be similar. Minaka trying some shit about revealing magic to the world and then getting hit in the face by every magic law enforcer in the world. MBI ceases to exist in an evening and, oddly, no-one can remeber there ever having been a company like MBI.

Also, the magical world has two hundred or so extra citizens, but they generally keep to themselves and no-one notices. The world keeps spinning serenely, as it always had. The END.

And, I suppose, Harry accepts the fact that he can never be 'just Harry', but settles for a veneer of normalcy and obscurity someplace far from the country where he's venerated like the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. With a harem, but, hey, you can't get everything.

 

[zeebee1]

Harry doesn't need to be powerful. His job is to give out kisses and maybe heal his Sekirei up will the women fight.

 

[daniel_gudman]

It doesn't matter if he can't bench-press as much as they can, he is a wizard who can teleport and turn invisible and control minds and turn you into a walrus.

Personally, I think the best way to do it is:

The Wizarding World exists inside the Statute of Secrecy.

Minaka, and his new species of Demihumans, are really, super toeing the line on that whole "keep magic a secret" thing.

So, the Japanese Magical Government is running around mopping up and stuff, and wringing their hands, wondering "how much does MBI know?" (Personally I'd make Minaka a squib, or a muggle with a wizard brother, or something; but turn what's expected on its head that's he's not "jealous" of magic, but deeply curious, in that unrestrained-let's-experiment-on-them way of mad scientists).

Anyway Harry Potter is in town (town = Shin Tokyo), as part of an International League of Wizardry Summit On Not Hating Each Other, or he's doing like a book tour (How to win duels with Dark Wizards and other cheaters), and he gets dragged into the game because of this "Winging" thing--and he's got to play along because, Statute of Secrecy.

 

[The Eromancer]

Ohhh that's good, well except for the last part, I think I'd actually prefer the Harry Potter than goes to Japan for vacation rather than work related activities though.

 

[MTing]

Does Minaka even need to "know" magic? Why can he just use the Sekrei tech and discover "magic"?

He doesn't know what it actually is, but he knows it's a way to manipulate reality.

To quote from the Movie Thor:
"Your ancestors called it magic but you call it science. I come from a land where they are one and the same."

Once the Japanese Magical Government realize what Minaka is stumbling upon, they try to bring it up at the ICW, but all the other nations are like "muggles don't know shit".

The Government is getting desperate to try and get someone on the inside to figure out what MBI actually knows. In comes Harry Potter for a nice quiet vacation. They ask him politely to if he has the time, no rush really, just please look into this situation at Shin Tokyo.

Harry, being on vacation decides to say no but the Government sweetens the deal. They promise that if Harry does them this one little favor, they will reroute all owls that have been pestering him these past months.
(Owls from other Governments around the world, wanting Harry to talk about fighting against a Dark Lord and maybe train some of their Aurors. This didn't happen in Britain cause their own Ministry was shielding their National Treasure. Once Harry left for his vacation, he lost that shield)

So Harry, also assuming that no Muggle can "discover" magic, goes in. And slowly but surely, loses his vacation to spend time on a quest.

 

[GiftofLove]

As for making Minaka immune to being influenced by magic . . . you can't really stop there. You have to have a way for the whole of MBI to resist things such as being obliviated, or prevent having the local ministry equivalent just throwing a muggle repelling charm on MBI headquarters where all the Sekirei tech is and cleaning it up at their leisure.

An idea: Mundane technology fails in the presence of magic for whatever reason. If it works one way, stands to reason that there could be cases in which the opposite is true. Perhaps the Sekirei tech that MBI manages to reverse engineer has a side effect or property that disrupts/reduces the effect of any magic cast near it?

You could thus say that when someone begins working for MBI, they are given a handy little identification bracelet, waterproof, that they're not supposed to take off for security purposes. This company is #1 in the world for medical development. They're very jealous with their secrets. As a side effect, the Sekirei tech used in its construction would make whoever is wearing it 'immune' to being directly affected by magic. (This can be gotten around by indirect spells, such as summoning something physical and then bashing someone to death with it. Chains, etc.) Providing Harry with a reason to stay and investigate. Or just as a means to keep him from doing some of the more obvious hax bullshit that wizards can do.

You could even have the 'bracelet' do some other cool things. Perhaps it's installed with a precursor to some of their untested stuff. Such as enhanced health and other things that would make one adverse to taking it off. "As long as you wear this, you're nearly immune from every illness currently known to man." "Wearing this will help keep your cancer in remission. Mr. Wears, with your help we can bring this technology to millions!"

This also functions as a way to explain why the people who work at MBI continue to be loyal to the company even though they're practicing what is essentially enslavement of an entire race of self-aware aliens. From the rather dark method of it administering a lethal injection if they betray MBI's confidence, to the idea that they'll put up with anything to rid the world of man from it's aliments.

 

[daniel_gudman]

Does Minaka even need to "know" magic? Why can he just use the Sekrei tech and discover "magic"?

Because I want him to be trolling all the Wizards.

 

[Coelacanth]

Minaka began messing around in things the ICW felt nervous about so they send a half blood familiar with the smuggle world to keep an eye on him. Harry draws the short straw and hijinks in sue.

Bonus points for Harry being confused with why all the Asians suddenly look Caucasian. Thus begins an investigation into that and their strange hair colors.

 

[chronodekar]

Does Minaka even need to "know" magic? Why can he just use the Sekrei tech and discover "magic"?

Because I want him to be trolling all the Wizards.

Why Not?

His basic attitude is very similar to a troll anyway.

@MTing,

The idea of MAGIC=SCIENCE is intriguing. The biggest problem with it, that I see is, it breaks one of the basic premiss of HP canon. Namely that "muggles" can't use magic. Still, I suppose the right author could figure something out.

@GiftofLove,

I find your idea more appealing. Though, more for just mixing the concept into a pure HP fanfic than with Sekireis. Hmm....

-chronodekar

 

[MTing]

It's doesn't have to be that magic = Science. It could be highly advanced science that looks similar to magic but isn't magic.

The Government is worried that MBI stumbled upon Magic. Harry goes in and checks it out. Reports back that MBI doesn't know anything about magic, they're just doing some crazy high tech thing that only looks like Magic. Government calms down and thanks Harry.

Harry then tries to leave Shin Tokyo with his task complete, but he wings one of the Sekrei. Now he can't leave.

 

[Vorpal]

The idea of MAGIC=SCIENCE is intriguing. The biggest problem with it, that I see is, it breaks one of the basic premiss of HP canon. Namely that "muggles" can't use magic. Still, I suppose the right author could figure something out.

Well, technically it doesn't. In Sekirei we see muggles affecting the powers of 'magical' creatures by modifying them, not using such powers themselves. And even then, it's not part of HP canon that there can't be magical artifacts that are usable by muggles, and it's almost explicit in Sekirei canon that their means of doing so are not ultimately their own. Gudman's idea can be an extension of that to other trinkets.

Hmm... the only thing that even comes close to a problem on that front is Seo.

 

[fitzgerald]

Although a married late 30's early 40's Harry might be kind of fun.

He's in town for a meeting and suddenly "Bam" he's involved with the Sekirei Plan.

And has to explain to his wife just why this <s>Japanese Veela</s> Sekirei seems to think she's mated to him.

Send up all the Harry/Veela fics out there.

Have the drama deal with Harry and Ginny being in an actual adult relationship with kids and have this wrench of the Sekirei plan thrown into the works.

Ciao

 

[chronodekar]

Have the drama deal with Harry and Ginny being in an actual adult relationship with kids and have this wrench of the Sekirei plan thrown into the works.

THIS sounds like a recipe for tragedy and I really don't want to see that in a Sekirei fanfic. At least, not a tragedy with an outside (non-Sekirei) relationship.

If I wanted that, I would be reading something else.

-chronodekar

 

[Raye_Terse]

About the magic vs. technology thing, we already know that magic screws with electricity... but we don't know how magic screws with electricity. The usual assumption is that electricity stops working in the vicinity of a strong magical field, but what if it starts working in a different way instead?

Essentially, what I'm saying is that you could probably make the case that electricity changes properties when it's charged with magic. Mix that up with some technobabble and you suddenly have a plausible way for muggles to create and sustain limited magical fields.

 

[Lord Raine]

HP & Sekirei, how would this work?

Well, Harry isn't an emasculated pussy, so the way it would work is that tab 'A' goes into slot 'B.'

I have diagrams if you need them.

We could also import some of those canon rewrite Sekirei ideas I had. Where the hell are those, anyway? The one about the magical gene activation. You said you really liked it, gudman, you remember where that was?

 

[Tsuki_CB]

About the magic vs. technology thing, we already know that magic screws with electricity... but we don't know how magic screws with electricity. The usual assumption is that electricity stops working in the vicinity of a strong magical field, but what if it starts working in a different way instead?

Essentially, what I'm saying is that you could probably make the case that electricity changes properties when it's charged with magic. Mix that up with some technobabble and you suddenly have a plausible way for muggles to create and sustain limited magical fields.

Correction, HP magic hinders electricity if there is a shit load of it. Otherwise the two work side by side fairly well.
It's not like Dresdan magic that fucks shit up to the point Wizards fear traveling by plane.

 

[Raye_Terse]

About the magic vs. technology thing, we already know that magic screws with electricity... but we don't know how magic screws with electricity. The usual assumption is that electricity stops working in the vicinity of a strong magical field, but what if it starts working in a different way instead?

Essentially, what I'm saying is that you could probably make the case that electricity changes properties when it's charged with magic. Mix that up with some technobabble and you suddenly have a plausible way for muggles to create and sustain limited magical fields.

Correction, HP magic hinders electricity if there is a shit load of it. Otherwise the two work side by side fairly well.
It's not like Dresdan magic that fucks shit up to the point Wizards fear traveling by plane.

I'm just pointing out that electricity not working as it should and electricity gaining new properties while losing old ones, would look exactly the same to someone who didn't know better.

 

[chronodekar]

About the magic vs. technology thing, we already know that magic screws with electricity... but we don't know how magic screws with electricity. The usual assumption is that electricity stops working in the vicinity of a strong magical field, but what if it starts working in a different way instead?

Essentially, what I'm saying is that you could probably make the case that electricity changes properties when it's charged with magic. Mix that up with some technobabble and you suddenly have a plausible way for muggles to create and sustain limited magical fields.

Correction, HP magic hinders electricity if there is a shit load of it. Otherwise the two work side by side fairly well.
It's not like Dresdan magic that fucks shit up to the point Wizards fear traveling by plane.

I'm just pointing out that electricity not working as it should and electricity gaining new properties while losing old ones, would look exactly the same to someone who didn't know better.

All this discussion has me thinking of a theory - what if the magic Harry & co use IS electricity? i.e. they have some means of actually manipulating electrical current?

As mentioned, add a few techno-jumbo about Tesla coils and what-not, we can fuse the ideas together.

-chronodekar

 

[kvx687]

Actually, the idea that magic interferes with technology is far more fanon than most people realize; there is is one line in the entire series that suggests that magic affects technology in any way , and AFAIK it's just Hermione saying she read that radio doesn't work in Hogwarts. I don't remember exactly where this is written, but it's in Goblet of Fire, around when Hermione figures out Skeeter's secret- it's prompted by Harry thinking about microphones and bugs.

 

[daniel_gudman]

Personally I feel like the various enchantments placed on objects that change their apparent mass or hardness or whatever would completely kick over the delicately balanced physical properties that make electronics work.

So it's not so much that Magic and Electricity can't coexist it's that magicing something changes its resistivity and capacitance and easily shorts out circuits.

Digital systems would be much more sensitive to this than simple and robust analogue systems....

Anyway magic lets the magic smoke out.