Akamatsuverse Kryptonian Keitaro

Tsukino_kage

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#76
ragnarok1337 said:
zeebee1 said:
No. And Darkseid, for all his power, is incredibly arrogant. he's acting like he's never been stopped before. Just how many people have foiled his plans?
<a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZE5RXhPwlKc' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Batman.</a>

Because he's <a href='http://www.merrickmonroe.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/goddamn-batman.jpg' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>THE GODDAMN BATMAN</a>
To be fair, Darkseid sat at the top of the villian heap in DC for a long time for a damn good reason... for all his power, it's his brains that truly make him dangerous. Arrogant? Definitely. Does he have a reason to be arrogant? Hell. Yes.

He has billions of slaves, the military might of who knows how many worlds, advanced technology and magic, immortality, power and skill to make Superman look like an amateur, and a strategic mind on par with Batman.

In a way, he's DC's Dr. Doom given resources and power that Doom can only dream of.
 

DhampyrX2

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#77
Tsukino_kage said:
ragnarok1337 said:
zeebee1 said:
No. And Darkseid, for all his power, is incredibly arrogant. he's acting like he's never been stopped before. Just how many people have foiled his plans?
<a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZE5RXhPwlKc' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Batman.</a>

Because he's <a href='http://www.merrickmonroe.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/goddamn-batman.jpg' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>THE GODDAMN BATMAN</a>
To be fair, Darkseid sat at the top of the villian heap in DC for a long time for a damn good reason... for all his power, it's his brains that truly make him dangerous. Arrogant? Definitely. Does he have a reason to be arrogant? Hell. Yes.

He has billions of slaves, the military might of who knows how many worlds, advanced technology and magic, immortality, power and skill to make Superman look like an amateur, and a strategic mind on par with Batman.

In a way, he's DC's Dr. Doom given resources and power that Doom can only dream of.
He's also a literal new god. That's his species. Without some kind of deux ex machina like a Radion bullet he can't be killed. He's like an unholy cross between Doom and Apocalypse.

Which really tells you how overpowered Superman can be as one of the only ones outside of the freaking Quintessence that can challenge him directly.
 

DhampyrX2

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#78
FinalMax said:
You know, someone's gotta come up with how Keitaro and Kara met.? Not me, writer's block and all that, but someone's gotta at least make the scene work.? That, and the Amazo beatdown.
Okay, here's a rough attempt at the start of everything...





It had all started so simply for Keitaro Urashima. He was following around his sometime boss and mentor Seta Noriyasu to America as he gave lectures about the Turtle Civilization and looked for leades for future digs. It was supposed to be a way to find himself and resolve his lack of progress with Naru back at the Hinata-Sou. Somewhere deep down, Keitaro hoped that he could somehow make himself into someone Naru could truly love.

How it had gone from that to Intergang hunting them down over some deal Seta broke up with his "lack of" driving skills, Keitaro would never understand. All he knew was that a group of armed thugs had broken in during Seta's lecture at NYU and started pointing guns at he and his mentor both.

But the trouble really started when a young woman with light brown hair in a style similar to Naru's made a bolt for the exit and one of the gunsels reacted by opening fire on her. Keitaro's mind ran on pure instinct as he moved faster than he thought possible and put himself in front of the spray of automatic weapons fire, arms help wide in an attempt to provide as much cover as his slender frame could.

The last thing he clearly recalled was the sound of Seta calling out his name and a strange series of metallic pings on the floor before the arrival of Supergirl put and end to the attempted hit and put the gangsters down for the count.

Keitaro stood there in shock looking at his chest where the bullets had struck, paying no attention to Seta, who ran up to him to check obn him, or the the gorgeous heroine who was taking out the bad guys. He just remained in a kind of fugue state for several seconds as his mind tried to process what had taken place.

Time felt like it started up again as he was confronted with a pair of crystal blue eyes looking into his own from a face framed by light blond hair. "Hey, I asked if youwere alright?" Supergirl inquired again, shaking Keitaro's shoulder to get his attention.

Keitaro looked at Superman's cousin, then to his unblemished clothes, then to the ground where saw half a dozen flattened slugs should have torn his organs to shreds after they hit him, and finally back into the eyes of Kara Zor-El. "I'm... fine," he stated with a sense of amazement before his eyes rolled back into his head and he fainted dead on the spot. Only Kara's quick reaction time saved him from a nasty concussion as he fell.

"Well would you look at that. I guess Haruka was right. The kid really is immortal," Seta said as he scratched the back of his head nervously while looking from Keitaro, to the bullets, and back again.

"Really. Do tell," another voice demanded in a cold deadpan from behind the Today professor.

Seta had to fight a yelp as he looked into the face of the Batman who had seemed to materialize out of nowhere.

"Nice of you to show up," Kara groused as she set Keitaro carefully on the ground.

"Supergirl, perhaps you should take Mr. Urashima there to the Hall of Justice for medical attention. Professor Noriyasu and I have some things to discuss," Batman commanded as he narrowed his eyes at the famed adventurer.

Part of Kara wanted to bristle at Batman treating her like some kind of kid... again, but she kept it down. The guy that fainted on her was more important right now anyway.

*****

"Well, what can you tell us?" Superman asked to start the meeting meeting at the Watchtower proper to go over Batman's report of the incident earlier at NYU.

Batman called up a display of the still sleeping Keitaro in his room before summoning a computer file with what looked like a high school photo of the young man as he recited, "Keitaro Urashima, of the noted Urashima Clan of Japan. Age: 21. Is currently listed as the owner and manager of the Hinata-Sou, formerly a well respected Inn within the Hinata district of Tokyo until his grandmother, one Hina Urashima coverted it into a dorm several years ago. Failed the Todai University entrance exam three times until finally passing but was unable to attend his first two semesters of class due to a broken leg. He is a known associate and apprentice to noted achaeologist Seta Noriyasu and is given partial credit for the Turtle Civilization discoveries on Pararakelse Island. He is currently travelling with his mentor as Mr. Noriyasu delivers lectures on the Turtle Civilization."

"Well that tells us about who he is, but what happened where we have him under observation in the medical wing like this?" Green Lantern asked.

Batman gave GL a blank stare for several moments before he responded, "He survived being shot six times by automatic weapons fire unharmed through the application of, if Mr, Noriyasu is to be believed, previously unused mteahuman abilities. After noticing his apparent abilities he fell into shock and fainted. DNA tests confim that these abilities are related to some form of Kryptonian ancestry."

"So you're saying the boy is part Kryptonian?" Superman asked incredulously.

"How is that even possible, Bruce? Is he some sort of clone like Connor was? An earlier prototype perhaps?" Wonder Woman asked of her cowled comrade.

"J'onn and I are still going over the data, but at this time it seems unlikely. Not only does Mr. Urashima have an well documented and verifiable past but his Kryptonian genes are both highly diluted and do not seem to demonstrate any relation to the House of El," Batman replied as he called up Keitaro's genetic profile for them all to see. "In fact, he does not share any genetic match with any Krytonian we have on record to date."

"How can that be? I mean, I thought there weren't any other Kryptonians left?" flash asked with a concerned look at the Last Son of Krypton.

"Until the discovery of the Phantom Zone and General Zod, we thought Superman was the only Kryptonian alive. Until Kara's arrival, we thought he was the last member of his family. It is too early to tell for certain where Keitaro's Kryptonian abilities came from, although it appears they did save his life earlier," J'onn interjected.

"What do you mean?" Superman asked, still trying to come to terms with what he was hearing.

"It appears that while the boy lacks the full range of Kryptonian abilities at this time, the stress of the situation caused him to manifest a degree of Tactile Telekinesis to protect himself and the girl he moved to protect from the gunfire aimed at her," Batman reported as he called up the surveillance video for the lecture hall for them to see.

It was not hard to seem the admiration and aknowedgement in the eyes of Superman and Wonder woman alike at they saw Keitaro moce to save the sirl without any form of hesitation. for his part Batman was far more skeptical. After all, Intergang was involved and they had demonstrated ties to Darkseid and his minions in the past.

"So the kid is like Connor then," Flash asked at the mention of Tactile Telekinesis.

"It's too early to tell. We'll have to run more tests to be certain. Up until this point the boy hasn't demonstrated any kind of meta-human abilities beyond being reputed to be more resistant to damage than the average person. He could be anything from a clone, to someone from a parallel Earth, to a plant of somekind by one of out enemies, or even exactly what he appears to be; a person with a long past unknown Kryptonian ancestor. I'll run more tests and let you all know when I'm certain," Batman vowed.

"Bruce, what's your gut instinct?" Superman asked after a pause.

"Going by what I've already found, either the Urashima family is far more connected than I ever believed or Keitaro might be exactly what he appears to be. For now we'll have to keep an eye on him. Even in the best case scenario he's a Kryptonian hybrin with no idea of how to cope with his emerging abilities. That could be extremely dangerous," Batman cautioned.

"Kara might be able to help with that. I know she's chomping at the bit to find out what's going on and she would understand better than just about anyone how card it is to cope with new abilities like ours. After all, she didn't grow up with them on Krypton or have a childhood here to put things in perspective for her," Clark suggested.

"Agreed. You can brief her on the situation and she can keep watch over Urashima. In the meantime, I'll continue my research," Batman reponded with a nod.

And with that the meeting began to break up as Clark went to inform Kara that they might have a new connection to their homeworld here on Earth.
 

Crusader

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#79
So which DC bad guy factions got whiff of the new metahuman on the block other than Intergang on that day?

And shouldn't Seta mention to the JLA that he's survived being shot at by Haruka with a
handgun and rocket launcher as well?
 

kevinasher

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#80
Crusader said:
So which DC bad guy factions got whiff of the new metahuman on the block other than Intergang on that day?

And shouldn't Seta mention to the JLA that he's survived being shot at by Haruka with a
handgun and rocket launcher as well?
I would be more surprised by the many car accidents he caused himself and managed to survive than the projectiles Haruka aimed high on...
 

crazyfoxdemon

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#81
Invulnerability isn't THAT rare of a super power. I can think of a couple superheroes and villains that could survive gun fire... Why would they automatically assume he's Kryptonian?
 

Ordo

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#82
Overall I like this opening a lot. It allows me to fill in a few holes in the other snippets. For example, Intergang is a known associate of Apokolips so that explains how Darkseid got wind of this new Kryptonian-hybrid.

Now I need some help, I've been thinking that after Keitaro's fight with Darkseid the girls of the Hina Inn might be looking for powers up to compete with the league girls....I mean defend themselves and Keitaro from supervillain attack...

Motoko: Yes....that's what I meant to say....

I've already got a scene where Motoko asks her sister to teach her the advanced techniques (The demon slaying style used in Negima) but I need some help with the other girls.

Shinobu

Option 1: She turns out to be cousins with Nodoka from Negima, and travels to visit her relative (after her adventures in the magic world) to ask for her help since in her letters she admits to knowing some really strong people. This is not a crossover so much as a cameo, but it gives me a few options to work with as far as her potential powerup goes

Option 2: Shinobu was clinically dead for three minutes after an accident when she was much younger. Which makes her a prime candidate for a white Lantern ring, and a task/labor to go with it.

Option 3/4: Shinobu is offered a Sapphire and Blue Lantern ring. Both corps think she would make an excellent addition and are working rather hard to recruit her into their ranks.

Option 5: Green lantern ring, if only to have a subplot dealing with her training by Kilowog

Naru

Option 1: Ares sees Naru's simmering anger over all these hussies going after her man, and sees an opportunity. He commissions Hephestus to reforge the 'Annhilator' into wearable armor and weaponry for her use. Fueled by her own anger it is a powerful weapon.

Option 2: Orange Lantern Ring. Naru is greedy, deep down. In her hearts of hearts she wants ALL of Keitaros love for herself. It's that all consuming need for his love, for her to have it and allow no others to expierence it that allowed Naru to take an Orange Power ring for herself without being killed by the entities avatar.

I still need ideas for Mutsumi, and Kitsune (Suu-chan's a supervillain,whose country may be offering Lex luthor assylum in exchange for him tutoring Kaolla),

The easiest thing to do would be to give them all power rings, but I'm trying not to take the easy way out.
 

Antimatter

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#84
Ordo said:
Overall I like this opening a lot. It allows me to fill in a few holes in the other snippets. For example, Intergang is a known associate of Apokolips so that explains how Darkseid got wind of this new Kryptonian-hybrid.

Now I need some help, I've been thinking that after Keitaro's fight with Darkseid the girls of the Hina Inn might be looking for powers up to compete with the league girls....I mean defend themselves and Keitaro from supervillain attack...

Motoko: Yes....that's what I meant to say....

I've already got a scene where Motoko asks her sister to teach her the advanced techniques (The demon slaying style used in Negima) but I need some help with the other girls.

Shinobu

Option 1: She turns out to be cousins with Nodoka from Negima, and travels to visit her relative (after her adventures in the magic world) to ask for her help since in her letters she admits to knowing some really strong people. This is not a crossover so much as a cameo, but it gives me a few options to work with as far as her potential powerup goes

Option 2: Shinobu was clinically dead for three minutes after an accident when she was much younger. Which makes her a prime candidate for a white Lantern ring, and a task/labor to go with it.

Option 3/4: Shinobu is offered a Sapphire and Blue Lantern ring. Both corps think she would make an excellent addition and are working rather hard to recruit her into their ranks.

Option 5: Green lantern ring, if only to have a subplot dealing with her training by Kilowog

Naru

Option 1: Ares sees Naru's simmering anger over all these hussies going after her man, and sees an opportunity. He commissions Hephestus to reforge the 'Annhilator' into wearable armor and weaponry for her use. Fueled by her own anger it is a powerful weapon.

Option 2: Orange Lantern Ring. Naru is greedy, deep down. In her hearts of hearts she wants ALL of Keitaros love for herself. It's that all consuming need for his love, for her to have it and allow no others to expierence it that allowed Naru to take an Orange Power ring for herself without being killed by the entities avatar.

I still need ideas for Mutsumi, and Kitsune (Suu-chan's a supervillain,whose country may be offering Lex luthor assylum in exchange for him tutoring Kaolla),

The easiest thing to do would be to give them all power rings, but I'm trying not to take the easy way out.
I don't know if Su woudl be a straight up super villain, but she would definitely walk in that grey area of doing whatever it takes no matter the cost. I can see her pulling a Toyman or even an Iron man using her inventions to give her her abilities.

Mutsumi screams star sapphire to me. She's overflowing with love, but seemingly is having her own denied, at least in canon. Shes also a great candidate for a white ring, given how often she flirts with death.

Naru is iffy to me. We know (or at least think) Mei goes to Mohora in the future, but the timeline is iffy for her at this point in the canon timeline. But what if her parents we secret mages, much like Yuna's in Negima, and that's where Naru gets her strength from?

Kanako we don't really even have to guess at. shes a master of disguise, and extremely skilled in her family arts, which seems to have at least some supernatural aspects, given shes deflecting missiles at one point in canon. I have to wonder why the league doesn't insist keitaro get more involved in his family style if it's capable of some real powerful techniques.
 

Ordo

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#85
Antimatter said:
Kanako we don't really even have to guess at.á shes a master of disguise, and extremely skilled in her family arts, which seems to have at least some supernatural aspects, given shes deflecting missiles at one point in canon.á I have to wonder why the league doesn't insist keitaro get more involved in his family style if it's capable of some real powerful techniques.
I'll field this one, something about the way Keitaros powers work is currently at odds with the Urashima family style. It's why he couldn't learn it when he was younger.

It's like (to borrow from Avatar: TLA) an Airbender trying to learn Earthbending. The abilities and mindsets are just to at odds for a master of one to easily understand and attain mastery of another. That said, some portions of the style Keitaro might be able to learn. A fact Kanako will jump on, exploring which parts may work, and then training her brother in them.

Of course the fact that she gets some alone time with him while training has nothing to do....oh wait this is Kanako...she'd rub it in the other League girls faces if she could get away with it.

Edit

On second thought...Toyman might be a better mentor for Suu. Think upon this, I will....

Edit 2:

All right I'm only willing to give one of the girls a power ring, and since Mutsumi would gladly help ANY of the League girls get close to Keitaro (Causing mass confusion and chaos as they each show up on his doorstep at the same time, intending to follow Mutsumi's advice) I nominate her for a power ring.

I'm thinking white Lantern at the moment but I will leave the floor open to anyone else who has an opinion on what kind of ring she should bear.

I have yet to determine how, but I'm leaning towards having Shinobu be a "Mystical Archer" Her bow fires bolts of Magical energy that can take on various elemental properties and more. She might eventually learn to do more, but that will be long after the story is completed.

I think I'm goig to have Naru's parents turn out to be from the magical world. Her mothers from the demon race, while her father is a former gladiator that has the honor of having lasted in a fight versue Jack Rakan. He didn't win, but he hung in their much longer than most could ever dream.

Still not sure what to do about Kitsune though.
 

Antimatter

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#86
Ordo said:
Antimatter said:
Kanako we don't really even have to guess at.á shes a master of disguise, and extremely skilled in her family arts, which seems to have at least some supernatural aspects, given shes deflecting missiles at one point in canon.á I have to wonder why the league doesn't insist keitaro get more involved in his family style if it's capable of some real powerful techniques.
I'll field this one, something about the way Keitaros powers work is currently at odds with the Urashima family style. It's why he couldn't learn it when he was younger.

It's like (to borrow from Avatar: TLA) an Airbender trying to learn Earthbending. The abilities and mindsets are just to at odds for a master of one to easily understand and attain mastery of another. That said, some portions of the style Keitaro might be able to learn. A fact Kanako will jump on, exploring which parts may work, and then training her brother in them.

Of course the fact that she gets some alone time with him while training has nothing to do....oh wait this is Kanako...she'd rub it in the other League girls faces if she could get away with it.

Edit

On second thought...Toyman might be a better mentor for Suu. Think upon this, I will....
I'm not sure how that would work though. I mean, what about invulnerability prevents him from using a martial art? Unless it's something to do with a weakness to magic, but i'm not sure if that would prevent him from doing it, given how diluted his kyptonian blood is.

that is assuming Ki based attacks count as magic. He seemed to hold up against Motoko's well enough.
 

Ordo

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#87
Antimatter said:
Ordo said:
Antimatter said:
Kanako we don't really even have to guess at.á shes a master of disguise, and extremely skilled in her family arts, which seems to have at least some supernatural aspects, given shes deflecting missiles at one point in canon.á I have to wonder why the league doesn't insist keitaro get more involved in his family style if it's capable of some real powerful techniques.
I'll field this one, something about the way Keitaros powers work is currently at odds with the Urashima family style. It's why he couldn't learn it when he was younger.

It's like (to borrow from Avatar: TLA) an Airbender trying to learn Earthbending. The abilities and mindsets are just to at odds for a master of one to easily understand and attain mastery of another. That said, some portions of the style Keitaro might be able to learn. A fact Kanako will jump on, exploring which parts may work, and then training her brother in them.

Of course the fact that she gets some alone time with him while training has nothing to do....oh wait this is Kanako...she'd rub it in the other League girls faces if she could get away with it.

Edit

On second thought...Toyman might be a better mentor for Suu. Think upon this, I will....
I'm not sure how that would work though. I mean, what about invulnerability prevents him from using a martial art? Unless it's something to do with a weakness to magic, but i'm not sure if that would prevent him from doing it, given how diluted his kyptonian blood is.

that is assuming Ki based attacks count as magic. He seemed to hold up against Motoko's well enough.
There's more to his powers than invulnerability. I've already covered tactile telekinesis and the manipulation of Bioelectric fields as elements of his power, but they are Biproducts of his true gift. For whatever reason, Keitaro's unique mix of human and Kryptonian heritage has leant him powers we don't fully understand yet. It's one of the reasons the League is watching him so closely.

As has been pointed out his powers (on the surface) look similar to Kon-Els originial abilities, but it's not exact.
 

Antimatter

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#88
Ordo said:
Antimatter said:
Ordo said:
Antimatter said:
Kanako we don't really even have to guess at.á shes a master of disguise, and extremely skilled in her family arts, which seems to have at least some supernatural aspects, given shes deflecting missiles at one point in canon.á I have to wonder why the league doesn't insist keitaro get more involved in his family style if it's capable of some real powerful techniques.
I'll field this one, something about the way Keitaros powers work is currently at odds with the Urashima family style. It's why he couldn't learn it when he was younger.

It's like (to borrow from Avatar: TLA) an Airbender trying to learn Earthbending. The abilities and mindsets are just to at odds for a master of one to easily understand and attain mastery of another. That said, some portions of the style Keitaro might be able to learn. A fact Kanako will jump on, exploring which parts may work, and then training her brother in them.

Of course the fact that she gets some alone time with him while training has nothing to do....oh wait this is Kanako...she'd rub it in the other League girls faces if she could get away with it.

Edit

On second thought...Toyman might be a better mentor for Suu. Think upon this, I will....
I'm not sure how that would work though. I mean, what about invulnerability prevents him from using a martial art? Unless it's something to do with a weakness to magic, but i'm not sure if that would prevent him from doing it, given how diluted his kyptonian blood is.

that is assuming Ki based attacks count as magic. He seemed to hold up against Motoko's well enough.
There's more to his powers than invulnerability. I've already covered tactile telekinesis and the manipulation of Bioelectric fields as elements of his power, but they are Biproducts of his true gift. For whatever reason, Keitaro's unique mix of human and Kryptonian heritage has leant him powers we don't fully understand yet. It's one of the reasons the League is watching him so closely.

As has been pointed out his powers (on the surface) look similar to Kon-Els originial abilities, but it's not exact.
Still, what about his powers is preventing him from using a martial art? Unless it's preventing him from using ki for some reason.
 

Ordo

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#89
Antimatter said:
Still, what about his powers is preventing him from using a martial art?? Unless it's preventing him from using ki for some reason.
Bingo! You nailed it on the head.

Remember Keitaro is uncoordinated because his mind and body are working at different speeds. That, plus the way his powers have modified his Ki makes him currently unable to learn his families art.

Sure he can throw a kick, but knocking aside missles...that takes a very specific application of Ki in a specific way, and the way it's taught to most of the Urashima family will not work for Keitaro.

Let me be clear about this....for whatever reason Keitaro is different from his ancestors. Perhaps he's the next step in Kryptonina/human hybrids, or maybe he's just a fluke.
 

crazyfoxdemon

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#90
Antimatter said:
Ordo said:
Antimatter said:
Kanako we don't really even have to guess at.á shes a master of disguise, and extremely skilled in her family arts, which seems to have at least some supernatural aspects, given shes deflecting missiles at one point in canon.á I have to wonder why the league doesn't insist keitaro get more involved in his family style if it's capable of some real powerful techniques.
I'll field this one, something about the way Keitaros powers work is currently at odds with the Urashima family style. It's why he couldn't learn it when he was younger.

It's like (to borrow from Avatar: TLA) an Airbender trying to learn Earthbending. The abilities and mindsets are just to at odds for a master of one to easily understand and attain mastery of another. That said, some portions of the style Keitaro might be able to learn. A fact Kanako will jump on, exploring which parts may work, and then training her brother in them.

Of course the fact that she gets some alone time with him while training has nothing to do....oh wait this is Kanako...she'd rub it in the other League girls faces if she could get away with it.

Edit

On second thought...Toyman might be a better mentor for Suu. Think upon this, I will....
I'm not sure how that would work though. I mean, what about invulnerability prevents him from using a martial art? Unless it's something to do with a weakness to magic, but i'm not sure if that would prevent him from doing it, given how diluted his kyptonian blood is.

that is assuming Ki based attacks count as magic. He seemed to hold up against Motoko's well enough.
I thought it had more to do with how his his body couldn't keep up with his mind or some such.. Which made him clumsy.. FAR to clumsy to learn a martial art with any proficiency..
 

Ordo

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#91
crazyfoxdemon said:
I thought it had more to do with how his his body couldn't keep up with his mind or some such.. Which made him clumsy.. FAR to clumsy to learn a martial art with any proficiency..
Yup, he can throw a kick, or a punch. Dosen't mean it'll hit or that he won't end up flat on his face afterwards....

Martial arts, as I understand it, is about control and mastery of ones self (or is that my jedi training coming through...meh). Keitaro dosen't have a lot of control because of his heritage.
 

Antimatter

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#92
Ordo said:
crazyfoxdemon said:
I thought it had more to do with how his his body couldn't keep up with his mind or some such.. Which made him clumsy.. FAR to clumsy to learn a martial art with any proficiency..
Yup, he can throw a kick, or a punch. Dosen't mean it'll hit or that he won't end up flat on his face afterwards....

Martial arts, as I understand it, is about control and mastery of ones self (or is that my jedi training coming through...meh). Keitaro dosen't have a lot of control because of his heritage.
So that's a change from canon where he had a knack for it, but never really practiced the arts.
 

ragnarok1337

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#93
Here's a wild idea: DON'T GIVE THE HINA GIRLS POWERS!

Really. It'll just give them an excuse to go back to the status quo of always attacking Keitaro for whatever whim comes along at the moment.

Keitaro has powers, yay! He's learning to control them so he won't end up in any compromising situations and attacked. Double yay! Oh, wait. Turns out the girls now have powers that allow them to hit him anyway.

Well, shit. How about we have this somewhat original, not just "Love Hina abuse with powers."
 

DhampyrX2

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#94
crazyfoxdemon said:
Invulnerability isn't THAT rare of a super power. I can think of a couple superheroes and villains that could survive gun fire... Why would they automatically assume he's Kryptonian?
They didn't assume anything. The ran tests on him while he was in their med bay and the genetic work-up discovered that he was partially Kryptonian. The debate between them is over how he ended up that way.

As for the power debate, keep in mind that Ares is not only Cassie's half-brother, but he has acted as her patron and power source in the past. He might be more inclined to help her rather than anyone from the Hinata-Sou. And part of me agrees that is shouldn't be the Love Hina girls getting powers so much as them pursuing them in ways that tend to fail spectacularly. I could see Motoko throwing herself into her art to better keep up, but that doesn't mean the others need to get recruited into a ring Corps or anything. Kanako will soak up Bat-training like a sponge. That doesn't mean we need a Mutsumi of Almerac or Starr Sapphire Shinobu in the mix. Let the girls learn to cope with being turned into mini Lois Lanes and Lana Langs rather than giving them the easy way out.

Besides, Naru belongs in the Sinestro Corps more than anything. Her fears and insecurities rule her throughout all of Love Hina and drive her into a rage. :p

Now, as for things which get out of hand, imagine the girls getting hold of a "magic rock" in an attempt to get powers only to learn it is red or pink Kryptonite. :D
 

Ordo

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#95
DhampyrX2 said:
And part of me agrees that is shouldn't be the Love Hina girls getting powers so much as them pursuing them in ways that tend to fail spectacularly. I could see Motoko throwing herself into her art to better keep up, but that doesn't mean the others need to get recruited into a ring Corps or anything. Kanako will soak up Bat-training like a sponge. That doesn't mean we need a Mutsumi of Almerac or Starr Sapphire Shinobu in the mix. Let the girls learn to cope with being turned into mini Lois Lanes and Lana Langs rather than giving them the easy way out.
Good point, I tend to get carried away when writing crossovers.
 

FinalMax

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#96
Ordo said:
DhampyrX2 said:
And part of me agrees that is shouldn't be the Love Hina girls getting powers so much as them pursuing them in ways that tend to fail spectacularly.? I could see Motoko throwing herself into her art to better keep up, but that doesn't mean the others need to get recruited into a ring Corps or anything.? Kanako will soak up Bat-training like a sponge.? That doesn't mean we need a Mutsumi of Almerac or Starr Sapphire Shinobu in the mix.? Let the girls learn to cope with being turned into mini Lois Lanes and Lana Langs rather than giving them the easy way out.
Good point, I tend to get carried away when writing crossovers.
That is a more common problem than I'd like on these boards. Explaining Keitaro's durability as a subconscious application of Tactile Telekinesis, and subsequently a result of Kryptonian heritage, good. Getting the rest of the Love Hina cast scrambling to get powers they probably shouldn't be able to obtain, not so much. Even Kanako's association with Batman is pushing it a bit much.

Motoko learning some of the more advanced skills of the family school is fine, considering her status as heir. It's a birthright, but it probably wouldn't put her on par with even a quarter of the Justice League. Shinobu being cousin to a hacked clone (Nodoka) isn't a good idea. It'll just feel forced and awkward.

I admit that trying to tie the Negima stuff to this might have some potential, but I'd go more for the shadow politics angle. The Negima magi live differently than the DC magi, and that could lead to either a rivalry or some kind of damage control between the two groups. Even if you didn't use that, just correspondence between Naru and her half-sister Mei could act as sufficient connecting tissue for the story. Maybe some of the DC ladies are looking at Mei and Naru's relationship for clues as to Keitaro's home life.
 

Antimatter

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#97
FinalMax said:
Ordo said:
DhampyrX2 said:
And part of me agrees that is shouldn't be the Love Hina girls getting powers so much as them pursuing them in ways that tend to fail spectacularly.á I could see Motoko throwing herself into her art to better keep up, but that doesn't mean the others need to get recruited into a ring Corps or anything.á Kanako will soak up Bat-training like a sponge.á That doesn't mean we need a Mutsumi of Almerac or Starr Sapphire Shinobu in the mix.á Let the girls learn to cope with being turned into mini Lois Lanes and Lana Langs rather than giving them the easy way out.
Good point, I tend to get carried away when writing crossovers.
That is a more common problem than I'd like on these boards. Explaining Keitaro's durability as a subconscious application of Tactile Telekinesis, and subsequently a result of Kryptonian heritage, good. Getting the rest of the Love Hina cast scrambling to get powers they probably shouldn't be able to obtain, not so much. Even Kanako's association with Batman is pushing it a bit much.

Motoko learning some of the more advanced skills of the family school is fine, considering her status as heir. It's a birthright, but it probably wouldn't put her on par with even a quarter of the Justice League. Shinobu being cousin to a hacked clone (Nodoka) isn't a good idea. It'll just feel forced and awkward.

I admit that trying to tie the Negima stuff to this might have some potential, but I'd go more for the shadow politics angle. The Negima magi live differently than the DC magi, and that could lead to either a rivalry or some kind of damage control between the two groups. Even if you didn't use that, just correspondence between Naru and her half-sister Mei could act as sufficient connecting tissue for the story. Maybe some of the DC ladies are looking at Mei and Naru's relationship for clues as to Keitaro's home life.
actually, I think if Motoko was using the full variety of skills we see her schoolmates use in negima she'd give a good bit of the JLA a run for their money.

I mean, look at Eisen for example. Or the governor, or heck, Setsuna herself. and those aren't founding clan members. Tsuruko has got to be an absolute beast in a real fight, not the duals we see in love hina. Having motoko push to that level would be a sight to see.

But I have to agree, given them all superpowers would be a mistake. Having those who have skills seek to advance them, even as a way to protect themselves, however does make sense.
 

DhampyrX2

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#98
Antimatter said:
FinalMax said:
Ordo said:
DhampyrX2 said:
And part of me agrees that is shouldn't be the Love Hina girls getting powers so much as them pursuing them in ways that tend to fail spectacularly.� I could see Motoko throwing herself into her art to better keep up, but that doesn't mean the others need to get recruited into a ring Corps or anything.� Kanako will soak up Bat-training like a sponge.� That doesn't mean we need a Mutsumi of Almerac or Starr Sapphire Shinobu in the mix.� Let the girls learn to cope with being turned into mini Lois Lanes and Lana Langs rather than giving them the easy way out.
Good point, I tend to get carried away when writing crossovers.
That is a more common problem than I'd like on these boards. Explaining Keitaro's durability as a subconscious application of Tactile Telekinesis, and subsequently a result of Kryptonian heritage, good. Getting the rest of the Love Hina cast scrambling to get powers they probably shouldn't be able to obtain, not so much. Even Kanako's association with Batman is pushing it a bit much.

Motoko learning some of the more advanced skills of the family school is fine, considering her status as heir. It's a birthright, but it probably wouldn't put her on par with even a quarter of the Justice League. Shinobu being cousin to a hacked clone (Nodoka) isn't a good idea. It'll just feel forced and awkward.

I admit that trying to tie the Negima stuff to this might have some potential, but I'd go more for the shadow politics angle. The Negima magi live differently than the DC magi, and that could lead to either a rivalry or some kind of damage control between the two groups. Even if you didn't use that, just correspondence between Naru and her half-sister Mei could act as sufficient connecting tissue for the story. Maybe some of the DC ladies are looking at Mei and Naru's relationship for clues as to Keitaro's home life.
actually, I think if Motoko was using the full variety of skills we see her schoolmates use in negima she'd give a good bit of the JLA a run for their money.

I mean, look at Eisen for example. Or the governor, or heck, Setsuna herself. and those aren't founding clan members. Tsuruko has got to be an absolute beast in a real fight, not the duals we see in love hina. Having motoko push to that level would be a sight to see.

But I have to agree, given them all superpowers would be a mistake. Having those who have skills seek to advance them, even as a way to protect themselves, however does make sense.
Yes an no. She'd be at mid-tier/younger hero level maybe. Something close to Keitaro himself after he finishes training. She'd never give the heavy hitters like the main 7, Dr. Fate, Etrigan, etc. a run for their money. The best she could hope for is to learn enough magic to be able to hurt Clark or Kara as they are vulnerable to it. In anything else, Motoko will not be a heavy hitter. Even Zatanna would be able to take her out with relative ease. One "ezeerf" and she's stopped.


Now we have to work on putting together a rogue gallery or sorts for Keitaro. We know Su will be part of it behind the scenes, but who close would get involved. Will Ares test the mortal that has caught his little sister's eye? Will Darkseid send some of the Female Furies to test him? Who else would mess with Ronin in his native Japan or abroad?
 

FinalMax

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#99
Poison Ivy, because Mutsumi wants her watermelons. Not necessarily current Poison Ivy. Though Harley Quinn paling around for the fun would be entertaining.
 

Antimatter

Well-Known Member
DhampyrX2 said:
Antimatter said:
FinalMax said:
Ordo said:
DhampyrX2 said:
And part of me agrees that is shouldn't be the Love Hina girls getting powers so much as them pursuing them in ways that tend to fail spectacularly.á I could see Motoko throwing herself into her art to better keep up, but that doesn't mean the others need to get recruited into a ring Corps or anything.á Kanako will soak up Bat-training like a sponge.á That doesn't mean we need a Mutsumi of Almerac or Starr Sapphire Shinobu in the mix.á Let the girls learn to cope with being turned into mini Lois Lanes and Lana Langs rather than giving them the easy way out.
Good point, I tend to get carried away when writing crossovers.
That is a more common problem than I'd like on these boards. Explaining Keitaro's durability as a subconscious application of Tactile Telekinesis, and subsequently a result of Kryptonian heritage, good. Getting the rest of the Love Hina cast scrambling to get powers they probably shouldn't be able to obtain, not so much. Even Kanako's association with Batman is pushing it a bit much.

Motoko learning some of the more advanced skills of the family school is fine, considering her status as heir. It's a birthright, but it probably wouldn't put her on par with even a quarter of the Justice League. Shinobu being cousin to a hacked clone (Nodoka) isn't a good idea. It'll just feel forced and awkward.

I admit that trying to tie the Negima stuff to this might have some potential, but I'd go more for the shadow politics angle. The Negima magi live differently than the DC magi, and that could lead to either a rivalry or some kind of damage control between the two groups. Even if you didn't use that, just correspondence between Naru and her half-sister Mei could act as sufficient connecting tissue for the story. Maybe some of the DC ladies are looking at Mei and Naru's relationship for clues as to Keitaro's home life.
actually, I think if Motoko was using the full variety of skills we see her schoolmates use in negima she'd give a good bit of the JLA a run for their money.

I mean, look at Eisen for example. Or the governor, or heck, Setsuna herself. and those aren't founding clan members. Tsuruko has got to be an absolute beast in a real fight, not the duals we see in love hina. Having motoko push to that level would be a sight to see.

But I have to agree, given them all superpowers would be a mistake. Having those who have skills seek to advance them, even as a way to protect themselves, however does make sense.
Yes an no. She'd be at mid-tier/younger hero level maybe. Something close to Keitaro himself after he finishes training. She'd never give the heavy hitters like the main 7, Dr. Fate, Etrigan, etc. a run for their money. The best she could hope for is to learn enough magic to be able to hurt Clark or Kara as they are vulnerable to it. In anything else, Motoko will not be a heavy hitter. Even Zatanna would be able to take her out with relative ease. One "ezeerf" and she's stopped.


Now we have to work on putting together a rogue gallery or sorts for Keitaro. We know Su will be part of it behind the scenes, but who close would get involved. Will Ares test the mortal that has caught his little sister's eye? Will Darkseid send some of the Female Furies to test him? Who else would mess with Ronin in his native Japan or abroad?
Remember, her schoolmates, like Eisen, took on entire armies of heavy magic users, superbeasts, etc, and won. Even the Governor of Ostia blew right though Negi's barriers like they weren't even there.

That's what her arts are capable of. that's the theoretical level she could get to if she really wanted it.

Even the casual arts are scary. Tsu cut a multi-ton ruck in half with a single stroke, whist sparing the driver. And that was a casual display for her.

It's a style designed to fight superpowered things, even in open war. That's going to give a lot of JLA members pause if they ever saw the arts at their height.

Motoko going home and saying 'I need to be able to fight some serious shit. Teach me what I need to know." would be all it takes for her to get shipped off to the magical world for some serious training from hell. That's assuming she doesn't already know some of the really high level stuff and just never shows it to the hinata crew.

Edit:

As for Su, I'm almost seeing her both testing him, and acting as his Q, supplying him with gadgets to keep him safe and even the odds.
 
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