ThreadWeaver said:
PCHeintz72 said:
The older multiple belts setup...? each individually is cheaper, and there are less points to adjust, but there are more of them, and my father once told me ther get out of adjustment easier.
Assuming they designed the belt routing properly, serpentine belts no longer require ANY adjustment from any points. Every Gm vehicle I've owned that had a serpentine belt had a single spring loaded tension arm that removed the need for adjusting. Just bolt the alternator, compressor, power steering/ whatever in place and use a socket wrench to load the belt under the tension arm. This may not be the case for foreign cars, but that is my experience with GM vehicles.
Serpentine belts both rule and suck. Suck because if the one belt goes, you're stranded on the side of the freeway/road. The old ones would only kill one of the accessories, instead of all of them. They rule because they're so much easier to work with.
AS to the older multiple belt setups coming loose easier: Oh yes. My first vehicle was a 78 Merc Zephyr. A real pain in the butt to get those belts tight. A crowbar, a prop block and a helper to quickly tighten bolts just to keep 'em from squealing.
I remember my father when alive a time or two having to adjust the serpentine belts on a couple of our past cars... it was rare though.
Also, if you should have uneven wear, or even just extensive wear, that can still expand slightly over the years... causing improper functioning and requiring a new belt.
Personally, having seen my father wrestle one in place once... I'd rather let a shop do that one. In the past I have helped get older belts in, though it has been some time since we've had cars that old or of that type.
My issue is I've the knowledge he taught me of him being a mechanic, and I've helped him on most things from breaks to master cylinders to engine / transmission replacements and rebuilds... However, while I helped him, and that gives the raw general knowledge of what is involved, it does not make me qualified to do the work alone years later... But I know enough to explain things, or to know if getting taken or lied to. He was ASE certified, not me.
I can do more than most, oil changes, tune ups, PCV valves, tire rotations, brakes and brake bleeding, minor items with exhaust, general maintneance, etc... I *might* be up for removing the automatic transmission pan and doing a transmission pan gasket and filter replacement... depends on setup. Fuse replacements... yep.
Most other stuff... gas station and dealership bound. I normally try to insure it is warantee items, or wierd items, or have coupons for, before doing so though.