Naruto [Naruto] Miscellaneous ideas topic.
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Just going to point out for a moment, since we're talking about utilitarian uses of ninja skills-
just imagine growing up with Hinata as a mother. She literally has eyes in the back of her head, and can move super fast and teleport at will.
YOu don't get away with anything, she just saves it as ammunition when you dissapoint her later.
just imagine growing up with Hinata as a mother. She literally has eyes in the back of her head, and can move super fast and teleport at will.
YOu don't get away with anything, she just saves it as ammunition when you dissapoint her later.
Been messing around with an idea in my head recently after having watched Inside Out. The gist of it is that after having defeated Kaguya, Team 7 end up being stuck in someone's head in the past.
I still haven't decided if it would be Sasuke after the Uchiha Massacre, Kakashi after the mission to save Rin, or Naruto after the first fight with Orochimaru.
The four would not be able to talk to whoever they ended up in at first, but would be able to influence their thought process, dreams, and even take control of their bodies at times of great emotion (Either from the "host").
Kinda how like the emotions in Inside Out do.
It would probably be a crack fic, or a humor/drama one.
Admittedly if a crack fic, it can be done as one-shots with them ending up in different characters. Imagine Madara getting harassed by Team 7 in the past.
Hell you can make crossover crack fic where they end up in other protagonist's heads; i.e. Ruby/Jaune (RWBY), Shirou/Rin (F/SN), Raven (TT), etc.
A bit of a rush post since I'm currently bored in class >.>
Quick Edit: They would later learn how to talk directly with whoever they are inside of.
I still haven't decided if it would be Sasuke after the Uchiha Massacre, Kakashi after the mission to save Rin, or Naruto after the first fight with Orochimaru.
The four would not be able to talk to whoever they ended up in at first, but would be able to influence their thought process, dreams, and even take control of their bodies at times of great emotion (Either from the "host").
Kinda how like the emotions in Inside Out do.
It would probably be a crack fic, or a humor/drama one.
Admittedly if a crack fic, it can be done as one-shots with them ending up in different characters. Imagine Madara getting harassed by Team 7 in the past.
Hell you can make crossover crack fic where they end up in other protagonist's heads; i.e. Ruby/Jaune (RWBY), Shirou/Rin (F/SN), Raven (TT), etc.
A bit of a rush post since I'm currently bored in class >.>
Quick Edit: They would later learn how to talk directly with whoever they are inside of.
In the Tsunade the younger fic discussion thread, the idea of Jiraya taking the hat after Minato's death was brought up as a divergence idea.
Honestly, I think it has some merit to it.
What i'd do (feel free to steal) would be to have him return after the rain orphans were trained, and have the third return to his retirement. With Jiraya in the village, he is technically Naruto's godparent, and sees that he is taken care of.
Given his workload, and narutos age, Naruto is mostly raised by nanies in the early years, with Jiraya spending what time he can. Jiraya gives him proper tutors, and narutos fundamentals are pretty sound by graduation age. Signs the toad contract much earlier, and learns the rasengan. Sarutobi takes a special interest in his training, given his status as a host among other things, and perhaps has Naruto train along side his own grandson, who become almost brotherly in bond, both 'rivals for the hat' which results in some interesting competitions and 'jutsu' creations. Sarutobi promises to teach them the shadow clones when they graduate.
Bijou training is extremely limited, and only under very close watch. Assume naruto can't access anymore then one tail by graduation. I'd not even have him start this training till very near graduation. It woudl be a very hush hush sort of thing, so even Konohamaru may not know about it.
I don' t expect naruto to be a powerhouse at age 12, just, I dunno, more competent. He's still a brat trying to get his godfather's attention, curious and heatbroken a bit at never having met his parents, and still searching for a nindo to really call his own. He understands the nature of bonds, but I don't think he would really understand what it means to be Hokage (ie, he's not been given Itachi's answer to this).
I'm not sure how to approach the thing with Sasuke. In canon sasuke was pissed over how fast naruto advanced for a 'nobody' but here he's had proper tutorage and is the Hokages adopted son. Ditto for the issue with how to treat Neji, his talk no jutsu would have to be modified quite a bit.
Not to mention how he would train during the month. Having the Hokage personally train him seems a bit unfair to the other candidates. I did think of one way though: send him to the toads for a month. Jiraya assumes they woudl train him on how to fight along side various summon-able toads, but imagine if they start him on the path to sage training. Alternatively, He goes to Tenzo (sp?) for elemental training for a month. Ether could make for some interesting fights later on.
Honestly, I think it has some merit to it.
What i'd do (feel free to steal) would be to have him return after the rain orphans were trained, and have the third return to his retirement. With Jiraya in the village, he is technically Naruto's godparent, and sees that he is taken care of.
Given his workload, and narutos age, Naruto is mostly raised by nanies in the early years, with Jiraya spending what time he can. Jiraya gives him proper tutors, and narutos fundamentals are pretty sound by graduation age. Signs the toad contract much earlier, and learns the rasengan. Sarutobi takes a special interest in his training, given his status as a host among other things, and perhaps has Naruto train along side his own grandson, who become almost brotherly in bond, both 'rivals for the hat' which results in some interesting competitions and 'jutsu' creations. Sarutobi promises to teach them the shadow clones when they graduate.
Bijou training is extremely limited, and only under very close watch. Assume naruto can't access anymore then one tail by graduation. I'd not even have him start this training till very near graduation. It woudl be a very hush hush sort of thing, so even Konohamaru may not know about it.
I don' t expect naruto to be a powerhouse at age 12, just, I dunno, more competent. He's still a brat trying to get his godfather's attention, curious and heatbroken a bit at never having met his parents, and still searching for a nindo to really call his own. He understands the nature of bonds, but I don't think he would really understand what it means to be Hokage (ie, he's not been given Itachi's answer to this).
I'm not sure how to approach the thing with Sasuke. In canon sasuke was pissed over how fast naruto advanced for a 'nobody' but here he's had proper tutorage and is the Hokages adopted son. Ditto for the issue with how to treat Neji, his talk no jutsu would have to be modified quite a bit.
Not to mention how he would train during the month. Having the Hokage personally train him seems a bit unfair to the other candidates. I did think of one way though: send him to the toads for a month. Jiraya assumes they woudl train him on how to fight along side various summon-able toads, but imagine if they start him on the path to sage training. Alternatively, He goes to Tenzo (sp?) for elemental training for a month. Ether could make for some interesting fights later on.
Timeline: Before Pain Invasion, though it's not going to entirely matter very quickly.
Concept: While on a mission to address the problem of sinkholes in a nearby town, Team Seven stumble upon some buried ruins of a temple. Symbols aren't ancient, but their level of intricacy is beyond anything Yamato has ever seen. With Yamato examining the area, he has Sai copy down the written seals and Sakura and Naruto reading old scrolls that... aren't very old at all. Of course, Naruto gets bored with this and begins poking around to find a chamber with even more seals inscribed all over the place. Entering the space triggers something. The seals inside the chamber flare up, sucking away Naruto's chakra, and a vortex opens up to swallow him up just as the rest of Team Seven arrive to the commotion.
Needless to say, they're freaking out. Or at least Sakura and Yamato are -- Sai's just Sai. Trying to figure out what happened, and, if possible, how things can be undone, another vortex opens up minutes later and spits out two people. One is Naruto, who bears some good news -- the temple was designed to open a wormhole into time and space, primarily so that Naruto could return to his own time. Of course, being Naruto, he's also bearing some inadvertent bad news as well -- he brought back a passenger, a sixteen year old Konoha kunoichi that put her life on the line to help Naruto get back to his time.
Her name is Mikoto Uchiha.
And everything has changed because of this.
Concept: While on a mission to address the problem of sinkholes in a nearby town, Team Seven stumble upon some buried ruins of a temple. Symbols aren't ancient, but their level of intricacy is beyond anything Yamato has ever seen. With Yamato examining the area, he has Sai copy down the written seals and Sakura and Naruto reading old scrolls that... aren't very old at all. Of course, Naruto gets bored with this and begins poking around to find a chamber with even more seals inscribed all over the place. Entering the space triggers something. The seals inside the chamber flare up, sucking away Naruto's chakra, and a vortex opens up to swallow him up just as the rest of Team Seven arrive to the commotion.
Needless to say, they're freaking out. Or at least Sakura and Yamato are -- Sai's just Sai. Trying to figure out what happened, and, if possible, how things can be undone, another vortex opens up minutes later and spits out two people. One is Naruto, who bears some good news -- the temple was designed to open a wormhole into time and space, primarily so that Naruto could return to his own time. Of course, being Naruto, he's also bearing some inadvertent bad news as well -- he brought back a passenger, a sixteen year old Konoha kunoichi that put her life on the line to help Naruto get back to his time.
Her name is Mikoto Uchiha.
And everything has changed because of this.
Itachi and Sasuke never exist, which is but one ripple. For example, the Uchiha are still present, and so is their growing resentment towards Konoha. The Uchiha have no one in ANBU, so they're playing the game much more cautiously, especially in the wake of Fugaku's murder, which had rocked the village. What's even stranger is that there has been a strong push for Shisui (Sarutobi's secret mole into the clan) to assume the role of Uchiha head, despite more qualified candidates still capable of taking up the mantle. Sarutobi has his suspicions about the matter, but, again, lack of evidence to prove anything.
Yeah... if the temple was there FOR the time-travel like Naruto says, then it can't affect the future since it is already there to start the cycle in the first place. So either Mikoto goes back, there is a second Mikoto, or in this story there were never Sasuke and Itachi even before the time-travel...
The cyicle:
>Naruto arrives in the past
>Temple is made
>Naruto goes back to the future (with Mikoto)
>Years pass
>Temple is found after all who knew about it are unable to explain
>Naruto is sent to the past
>Naruto arrives back in the future (with Mikoto)
The cyicle:
>Naruto arrives in the past
>Temple is made
>Naruto goes back to the future (with Mikoto)
>Years pass
>Temple is found after all who knew about it are unable to explain
>Naruto is sent to the past
>Naruto arrives back in the future (with Mikoto)
I will never have time to write fanfiction in my life, so here are the two biggest ideas I've been tweaking.
In the forest of Death, Naruto is saved from an attack by Sound nin. His rescuer, a fellow leaf ninja teaches him a technique to help him out, and instructs him to save it for when his Ninja Way is on the line, but when he does have to use it, to pour everything he's got in it, to show the strength of his Ninja Way.
Naruto, fighting through the chuunin exams, has to fight against Neji, after his mauling of hinata. He finds himself unable to breach Neji's defense, so, scanning the crowd, he looks for a white haired ninja. Kabuto, grinning, nods at him, giving him his approval. Naruto channels all of his might into summoning as many Kage Bushin as he can, one last time. Thousands pour into the stadium, in the stands, disrupting the audience. All of them leap at Neji, who pops one, which subsequently explodes. A chain reaction occurs, and Konoha is destroyed. Kabuto, who prepared to heal the damage survives and congratulates Orochimaru, who appears out of the ground, on a well crafted plan.
The other would just be a one shot about Boruto's chuunin exams, where Naruto has insisted on one event being a ninja poker match featuring all five kages. Cheating is allowed, so long as you don't get caught, and it's the genin's job to help their kage cheat.
In the forest of Death, Naruto is saved from an attack by Sound nin. His rescuer, a fellow leaf ninja teaches him a technique to help him out, and instructs him to save it for when his Ninja Way is on the line, but when he does have to use it, to pour everything he's got in it, to show the strength of his Ninja Way.
Naruto, fighting through the chuunin exams, has to fight against Neji, after his mauling of hinata. He finds himself unable to breach Neji's defense, so, scanning the crowd, he looks for a white haired ninja. Kabuto, grinning, nods at him, giving him his approval. Naruto channels all of his might into summoning as many Kage Bushin as he can, one last time. Thousands pour into the stadium, in the stands, disrupting the audience. All of them leap at Neji, who pops one, which subsequently explodes. A chain reaction occurs, and Konoha is destroyed. Kabuto, who prepared to heal the damage survives and congratulates Orochimaru, who appears out of the ground, on a well crafted plan.
The other would just be a one shot about Boruto's chuunin exams, where Naruto has insisted on one event being a ninja poker match featuring all five kages. Cheating is allowed, so long as you don't get caught, and it's the genin's job to help their kage cheat.
Sure, and the idea was to start the story just after Kabuto shows him the technique, and naruto successfully demonstrates it once. Basically the story would start with Naruto standing over a small crater.
But Naruto might not think having a lot of numerous small explosions could cause a widespread effect. Naruto's intelligence always struck me as cunning, but careless, and ignorant of advanced concepts. He doesn't always think through the full ramifications of what he's going to do or say. And if Kabuto tells him that it's alright, I think he'd trust him, especially after Kabuto just showed him a super awesome explosion technique. He might think having a bunch of tiny explosions would just focus everything on neji, and not pass much farther than the crater he saw before.
But Naruto might not think having a lot of numerous small explosions could cause a widespread effect. Naruto's intelligence always struck me as cunning, but careless, and ignorant of advanced concepts. He doesn't always think through the full ramifications of what he's going to do or say. And if Kabuto tells him that it's alright, I think he'd trust him, especially after Kabuto just showed him a super awesome explosion technique. He might think having a bunch of tiny explosions would just focus everything on neji, and not pass much farther than the crater he saw before.
Himawari is actually the reincarnation of Kaguya, with all her power intact. Poor little Himawari doesn't know sometimes why she gets the urge to REND, SLAUGHTER, DEVOUR YOUR FATHER but it happens, and sometimes she goes with it only to stop just shy of killing her father and brother with her OP strength
That makes more sense than you'd expect. Naruto did get nearly killed by Himawari.
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Another idea: a smarter Naruto gets stronger to reach S-rank and/or beyond, covering his real feelings under a mask, so that he can get rid of Konoha....
To be exact, he has heard of how the remaining Sannin are allowed to roam free, and wants the same privilege. Thus, he will try to complete as many high ranking missions as he can, while pushing the envelope so that he can reach a Kage's level of power and skill. Even when he becomes popular in Konoha, there are too many bad feelings on his side to change his plans, so he'll get permission to leave (if need be, with a Shadow Clone, who will inform the current Hokage that 'the boss' has already left, 'and you can give him permission retroactively or make him a missing nin. Your choice').
This being a Naruto who has won the 4th Shinobi War (though Sasuke might not turn on him. If he does, Naruto will simply leave him be), even a Hokage who hates him might not dare label him a missing-nin.
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Another idea: a smarter Naruto gets stronger to reach S-rank and/or beyond, covering his real feelings under a mask, so that he can get rid of Konoha....
To be exact, he has heard of how the remaining Sannin are allowed to roam free, and wants the same privilege. Thus, he will try to complete as many high ranking missions as he can, while pushing the envelope so that he can reach a Kage's level of power and skill. Even when he becomes popular in Konoha, there are too many bad feelings on his side to change his plans, so he'll get permission to leave (if need be, with a Shadow Clone, who will inform the current Hokage that 'the boss' has already left, 'and you can give him permission retroactively or make him a missing nin. Your choice').
This being a Naruto who has won the 4th Shinobi War (though Sasuke might not turn on him. If he does, Naruto will simply leave him be), even a Hokage who hates him might not dare label him a missing-nin.
New idea:
The Shadow Clone (Kage Bunshin no jutsu) takes away a small part of a person's soul and/or identity forever. Thus, Naruto lost the more extreme edges to his character while barely getting any smarter over the course of the series. It would explain why adult Naruto is so boring.
It's not even noticeable in people like the Sannin, who rarely make them, or someone like Itachi who doesn't have enough Chakra to use them often. Unfortunately, Naruto uses them in every fight, sometimes by the thousands, and outside of fights too.
So, yeah, Naruto 'degrades'; less exuberant, less energetic; less ALIVE. (Not to mention his IQ dropping.) It's not the process of maturing mentally, it's something sinister. Tobirama knew something we didn't when he restricted the teaching of the Shadow Clone.
It's less of a story idea and more of an explanation as to why Naruto (who was supposed to be just neglected and uneducated, not stupid, outside of exposition such as what Chakra is) is still stupid at the start of Part 2 of the Manga, or why he is so law-abiding except the child neglect in the after-series movies. (Edit the n-th: also why his memory doesn't ever improve much, and why he never got good at resisting the Kyuubi Chakra and its influence, until he fought Kurama with Mass Shadow Clones out.)
He is smart while fighting because when Shadow Clones are out, he has multiple (VERY REAL!) minds working on the problem, which brings out his latent mental potential, but part of those minds doesn't return to him after their dispelling, so the cost is that said latent potential is ever so slightly reduced forever. He does get better with fighting experience, but he can't fulfill his original potential.
(Edit (n+2): If you want my inspiration, look up Oni Lee of the Worm fandom. Though Kage Bunshin's effect is more subtle than what Jack Slash says of Oni Lee.)
The Shadow Clone (Kage Bunshin no jutsu) takes away a small part of a person's soul and/or identity forever. Thus, Naruto lost the more extreme edges to his character while barely getting any smarter over the course of the series. It would explain why adult Naruto is so boring.
It's not even noticeable in people like the Sannin, who rarely make them, or someone like Itachi who doesn't have enough Chakra to use them often. Unfortunately, Naruto uses them in every fight, sometimes by the thousands, and outside of fights too.
So, yeah, Naruto 'degrades'; less exuberant, less energetic; less ALIVE. (Not to mention his IQ dropping.) It's not the process of maturing mentally, it's something sinister. Tobirama knew something we didn't when he restricted the teaching of the Shadow Clone.
It's less of a story idea and more of an explanation as to why Naruto (who was supposed to be just neglected and uneducated, not stupid, outside of exposition such as what Chakra is) is still stupid at the start of Part 2 of the Manga, or why he is so law-abiding except the child neglect in the after-series movies. (Edit the n-th: also why his memory doesn't ever improve much, and why he never got good at resisting the Kyuubi Chakra and its influence, until he fought Kurama with Mass Shadow Clones out.)
He is smart while fighting because when Shadow Clones are out, he has multiple (VERY REAL!) minds working on the problem, which brings out his latent mental potential, but part of those minds doesn't return to him after their dispelling, so the cost is that said latent potential is ever so slightly reduced forever. He does get better with fighting experience, but he can't fulfill his original potential.
(Edit (n+2): If you want my inspiration, look up Oni Lee of the Worm fandom. Though Kage Bunshin's effect is more subtle than what Jack Slash says of Oni Lee.)
I think that a similar idea about the Academy has been mentioned, but this is not quite the same; the previous one was about separating the genders, IIRC. This one is subtly different.
The idea is that in the Academy of Konoha, those entrants who are considered the most likely by the Hokage him-/herself to go on to graduate, are distributed to different classes. For example, a class will never have more than three clan heirs* in it; Naruto, being a Jinchuuriki, will not be with more than two clan heirs (at most).
Additionally (and this is inspired by the previous idea, the one with gender segregation), anyone who is considered potential fangirl bait (Sasuke in the Rookie 9 generation, Neji on the class above - also, anyone with a super sunny and charismatic personality like Naruto, except possibly Naruto himself due to his reputation) is put into a complete sausage-fest of a class.
So, it goes something like this:
-Sasuke, Shikamaru, Kiba, the others are mostly male too: First Year Class 1. There is no enabler (Chouji and Naruto) for Shikamaru's slacking. Kiba is a bit lackadaisical in that too, but he's very active and takes the ninja life mostly seriously. Basically, Kiba is subtly encouraged to be Shikamaru's 'encourager' (like Naruto was when he pushed Shikamaru into the arena in canon, Shika vs Temari). There will be girls too, but very few and cherry-picked. They will hopefully have nothing to do with 'encouraging' Shikamaru (he gets enough of that from his mother; his sexism is hopefully eliminated sooner). Maybe the girls are from families with a grudge against the Uchiha clan, so they will hopefully be competitive with Sasuke.
-Ino, Sakura, Chouji: F/Y Class 2, though Ino and Sakura will be separated later, because the teacher saw Sakura was becoming a bit too dependent. Sakura and Ino will be a bit more open-minded, since their class doesn't have the 'good looking' boys
-Naruto, Hinata, Shino: F/Y Class 3; though, when Hinata starts to rely on Naruto a bit too much to get confidence, Ino and Hinata are switched.
Of course, they have lessons in completely different parts of the Academy. Additionally to that, the 'Kunoichi' lessons are open to the boys of the same class (and they aren't mandatory for the girls, either), though it usually so happens that most girls attend, and most boys don't. Different classes have different 'kunoichi' instructors, always*(2).
On that note, exemplary female students such as Tsunade and Ino (she used to get grades higher than even Sasuke's overall in canon. Though canon Ino most likely dropped sharply in grades after starting dieting and such, otherwise Sasuke wouldn't be the Rookie of the Year) will be shown off to the next batch of Academy Students as examples, after they graduate themselves, in ways that will hopefully inspire the future kunoichi. Maybe male former students too, especially those who went on to become famous (those who didn't turn traitor).
This idea also serves to turn out competent kunoichi, like the 'gender segregation' idea; but it also ends up with other benefits, such as (hopefully) more female graduates (in number), less reckless and more competent boys (they are less likely to try to impress the girls constantly, or become fanboys) and, of course, sabotage of the entire Academy is a lot harder when the graduates are separated like that. "Road to Heaven" inspired me, where the first time Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura met was when they became a team. Though in that fanfic, they were already at least at chuunin level and had been ninjas for ~3 years. My idea has them meet at graduation.
*That also refers to secondary heirs, or 'spares', or whatever you want to call them (like Kiba and early Sasuke).
*2 This prevents sabotage of the future kunoichi. The system already makes it much more difficult to turn out fangirls. On that note, people often say Mizuki sabotaged the students in his classes, and they may be right; but, the one I suspect did the most damage is Suzume. The Rookie 9 class was full of non-serious kunoichi, and if we consider the fact Sakura is a second generation ninja, not a first, and that Ino and Hinata are clan heirs - well, there is something rotten in what the girls are taught. So yes, I believe that Suzume is a traitor, and that she has the rare attribute of actually being subtle.
The idea is that in the Academy of Konoha, those entrants who are considered the most likely by the Hokage him-/herself to go on to graduate, are distributed to different classes. For example, a class will never have more than three clan heirs* in it; Naruto, being a Jinchuuriki, will not be with more than two clan heirs (at most).
Additionally (and this is inspired by the previous idea, the one with gender segregation), anyone who is considered potential fangirl bait (Sasuke in the Rookie 9 generation, Neji on the class above - also, anyone with a super sunny and charismatic personality like Naruto, except possibly Naruto himself due to his reputation) is put into a complete sausage-fest of a class.
So, it goes something like this:
-Sasuke, Shikamaru, Kiba, the others are mostly male too: First Year Class 1. There is no enabler (Chouji and Naruto) for Shikamaru's slacking. Kiba is a bit lackadaisical in that too, but he's very active and takes the ninja life mostly seriously. Basically, Kiba is subtly encouraged to be Shikamaru's 'encourager' (like Naruto was when he pushed Shikamaru into the arena in canon, Shika vs Temari). There will be girls too, but very few and cherry-picked. They will hopefully have nothing to do with 'encouraging' Shikamaru (he gets enough of that from his mother; his sexism is hopefully eliminated sooner). Maybe the girls are from families with a grudge against the Uchiha clan, so they will hopefully be competitive with Sasuke.
-Ino, Sakura, Chouji: F/Y Class 2, though Ino and Sakura will be separated later, because the teacher saw Sakura was becoming a bit too dependent. Sakura and Ino will be a bit more open-minded, since their class doesn't have the 'good looking' boys
-Naruto, Hinata, Shino: F/Y Class 3; though, when Hinata starts to rely on Naruto a bit too much to get confidence, Ino and Hinata are switched.
Of course, they have lessons in completely different parts of the Academy. Additionally to that, the 'Kunoichi' lessons are open to the boys of the same class (and they aren't mandatory for the girls, either), though it usually so happens that most girls attend, and most boys don't. Different classes have different 'kunoichi' instructors, always*(2).
On that note, exemplary female students such as Tsunade and Ino (she used to get grades higher than even Sasuke's overall in canon. Though canon Ino most likely dropped sharply in grades after starting dieting and such, otherwise Sasuke wouldn't be the Rookie of the Year) will be shown off to the next batch of Academy Students as examples, after they graduate themselves, in ways that will hopefully inspire the future kunoichi. Maybe male former students too, especially those who went on to become famous (those who didn't turn traitor).
This idea also serves to turn out competent kunoichi, like the 'gender segregation' idea; but it also ends up with other benefits, such as (hopefully) more female graduates (in number), less reckless and more competent boys (they are less likely to try to impress the girls constantly, or become fanboys) and, of course, sabotage of the entire Academy is a lot harder when the graduates are separated like that. "Road to Heaven" inspired me, where the first time Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura met was when they became a team. Though in that fanfic, they were already at least at chuunin level and had been ninjas for ~3 years. My idea has them meet at graduation.
*That also refers to secondary heirs, or 'spares', or whatever you want to call them (like Kiba and early Sasuke).
*2 This prevents sabotage of the future kunoichi. The system already makes it much more difficult to turn out fangirls. On that note, people often say Mizuki sabotaged the students in his classes, and they may be right; but, the one I suspect did the most damage is Suzume. The Rookie 9 class was full of non-serious kunoichi, and if we consider the fact Sakura is a second generation ninja, not a first, and that Ino and Hinata are clan heirs - well, there is something rotten in what the girls are taught. So yes, I believe that Suzume is a traitor, and that she has the rare attribute of actually being subtle.
Sasuke was Rookie of the Year because he was better than everybody else in the IMPORTANT subject: kicking asses.
Ino's higher average was because he was a complete negative antisocial loner. But having better grades in POSITIVITY isn't going to help you defeat a guy who is much better than you at punching.
Also, I don't remember Ino ever stating being on a diet?
Ino's higher average was because he was a complete negative antisocial loner. But having better grades in POSITIVITY isn't going to help you defeat a guy who is much better than you at punching.
Also, I don't remember Ino ever stating being on a diet?
Hmm, now that you mention it, I'm not sure when and if she said something about a diet. :hmm: Edit: Ino must have had absurdly high grades if she had the best ones, 'positivity' being counted or not. She hasn't shown any of that talent in canon, though, so it's either an informed attribute, or she just dropped in competence - for any reason.
'New' Idea: a Naruto who wants to use Genjutsu, whether it be because someone like Kurenai/Ibiki/Anko/Itachi is his parent / older sibling figure or because of some other reason.
The catch here is that while this is in Shippuden timeline (thus Naruto knows to use the Shadow Clones for training), it's not his mind that gets in the way (he's actually well-suited to that kind of deception), not even his Chakra Control, which he'll be able to improve due to the aforementioned Shadow Clones (and possibly the Sage Mode too). Not even the Kyuubi's Chakra, because Naruto has found a way to keep his Chakra stable long enough to cast his genjutsu, no matter what surges the Eight Trigrams seal gives him.
No, the problem is that the nature training for Yin Release is taking him so long and so much effort, even with Shadow Clones, that the Chakra Control training looks like a walk in the park in comparison.
(Honestly, considering what we know of Naruto's strengths and weaknesses, the only way for (post)699th chapter-Naruto to remain bad or mediocre at genjutsu is if he's bad at using the Yin Release Chakra nature, given enough practice in the field of genjutsu, of course. It HAS been implied in canon that he's not talented with Yin Release, too, right?)
(BTW, it's my headcanon that Ashura and his reincarnations all had a Yang Release jutsu that made them so resistant to genjutsu, that an Uchiha might as well try to mind-control Kaguya rather than the Ashura transmigrant. It would explain why Sasuke and Madara couldn't just WTFPWN Naruto and Hashirama with genjutsu or get a huge advantage by making them avoid eye contact.)
The catch here is that while this is in Shippuden timeline (thus Naruto knows to use the Shadow Clones for training), it's not his mind that gets in the way (he's actually well-suited to that kind of deception), not even his Chakra Control, which he'll be able to improve due to the aforementioned Shadow Clones (and possibly the Sage Mode too). Not even the Kyuubi's Chakra, because Naruto has found a way to keep his Chakra stable long enough to cast his genjutsu, no matter what surges the Eight Trigrams seal gives him.
No, the problem is that the nature training for Yin Release is taking him so long and so much effort, even with Shadow Clones, that the Chakra Control training looks like a walk in the park in comparison.
(Honestly, considering what we know of Naruto's strengths and weaknesses, the only way for (post)699th chapter-Naruto to remain bad or mediocre at genjutsu is if he's bad at using the Yin Release Chakra nature, given enough practice in the field of genjutsu, of course. It HAS been implied in canon that he's not talented with Yin Release, too, right?)
(BTW, it's my headcanon that Ashura and his reincarnations all had a Yang Release jutsu that made them so resistant to genjutsu, that an Uchiha might as well try to mind-control Kaguya rather than the Ashura transmigrant. It would explain why Sasuke and Madara couldn't just WTFPWN Naruto and Hashirama with genjutsu or get a huge advantage by making them avoid eye contact.)
New Idea: Naruto has the Sharingan; not very original, except it mainly brings him trouble, so it's much more realistic than the usual fare (kind of a deconstruction).
A)He can't get Chakra from the Kyuubi willingly (Kurama would sooner die than have someone with the Sharingan as his container), though he does get the boost in reserves and a slight boost in healing due to the seal used (the canon Eight Trigrams).
B )While he is much better at using Yin Release than canon Naruto, he's still not very good for an Uchiha, so he is nowhere near as good at casting genjutsu as Madara or even same-age Sasuke, much less Itachi (and his Chakra Control; well, see point 'L'). He is Ashura's transmigrant still after all. (And no, he doesn't get any other bloodlines, much less the Mokuton* or the Rinnegan.) His Wind Release is still his affinity, but it's still of around average potency, like in canon. He doesn't have Sasuke's supercharged (Lightning) primary affinity, or a Wind equivalent.
C)He doesn't get the Mangekyou unless he no longer needs it; that is, only after he befriends Kurama, if he ever does (which will be far, FAR harder than in canon, obviously). While his Uzumaki heritage helps heal his eyes, he won't get the Eternal version anytime soon, if ever. Also, canon Naruto was rather obnoxious and blamed the fox for most of his problems; this doesn't change until he matures a lot in this idea, yet again like canon.
D)Whether he is Madara's grandson or something else(2)*, Madara won't treat him any different than any other Jinchuuriki, or potential asset.
E)Dark Naruto is a lot harder to handle than in canon; the only saving grace is that Kurama doesn't back him at all, but he might have a situation similar to Ichigo and his Inner Hollow from early Bleach; after all, an Uchiha full of hatred is stronger than one who's not. (Yes, Naruto's personality is intact from canon; not a NINO, another difference from usual Narutos in such fanfics, or fanfics in general - well, maybe smarter. EVENTUALLY.)
F)Tsunade is much more wary of him, and Jiraiya won't let him use the Sharingan much in training. Orochimaru is less likely to try to kill Naruto, at least, and Jiraiya will be able to teach him about Fire Release (not to mention Kakashi's help on countering the Sharingan's weaknesses); on the other hand, Obito is a lot more dangerous and manipulative, despite (due to?) seeing himself in Naruto even more.
G)Danzo is also a threat, though how much of one is up to the author, if one chooses to make this idea a reality (hmm. Possibly a Danzo who actually becomes Hokage because of Tsunade's distrust?)
H)There will be no Konoha bashing; as such, Naruto won't awaken his Sharingan until at least his first C-rank mission, not on a 'beating' - unless he awakens it with Mizuki, but it will still be at 12 or later (and canon Naruto didn't need something like that to beat Mizuki anyway).
I)Subsequently, it will be a lot harder for Sasuke to accept him than the usual Sharingan-Naruto fic, since they aren't friends since early on. They have the canon relationship (one sided rivalry that slowly turns into a full-fledged rivalry, and frienemies), but his possession of the Sharingan may make their relationship either more familial or much, much worse. It's a tossup, really.
J)Naruto will find written tests and anything involving Yin Release (like Genjutsu) a lot easier, but he still has the canon trait of needing one-on-one attention from someone who actually cares to shine (and the supercharged physical stamina, so it's like he has ADHD still), so even if he's not the dead last, he's close enough that it won't matter. (If Chouji is dead last and Naruto the second-to-last... well, they'll end up on Ino-Shika-Cho and Team 7 respectively anyway.)
K)The other villages will be a lot more dangerous to him, since he has a major (and nearly extinct) bloodline while still being an Uzumaki Jinchuuriki and the Yellow Flash's son (though he will probably have black-colored eyes, so the resemblance to his dad isn't as great). Attempted assassinations might start happening, or kidnapping attempts, probably both. If Oonoki finds out about both his father and (great?)grandfather, he will stop at nothing to eliminate the threat, most likely. (Even the Fence Sitter isn't immune to fear.)
L)His Chakra control, while SLIGHTLY better than in canon, will still remain sucky until the last few part2 chapters; again, similarly to canon. (His personal reserves are even higher than canon due to a better balance of Yin and Yang, but the Kyuubi doesn't willingly give him the amount it does in canon part2 even with a loosened seal, so it all balances out (he will have a bit more control and a bit less Chakra available than canon in Shippuden.) Thus, any genjutsu above the D-rank will remain all but useless to him until he FULLY masters Sage Mode, and the 'unbreakable' genjutsu cast by a three-tomoe Sharingan... won't be so unbreakable.
M)The higher-ups of Konoha will be even more wary of Naruto than Homura and Koharu were already, even if neither Danzo nor Tsunade is Hokage. So, that Chuunin promotion? Yeah, not happening - he'll be a Genin if he doesn't abandon Konoha (which he probably won't), like canon. (Not that it stopped him from taking down Kage level opponents and above, LOL.)
N)The fighting style of tricking his opponents and using unorthodox tactics, often in conjunction with Shadow Clones; I don't want to change it. He'd probably get a few Wind and Fire ninjutsu, but even when he used them (not often), it would be in Uzumaki Naruto style, and definitely not like a turn-based RPG.
O)Naruto might get the Rasengan much later than in canon. (And the Shadow Clone, possibly slightly later. Just enough for him not to be completely reliant on either the Sharingan or the Shadow Clone; he actually improves his taijutsu early on.) After all, Jiraiya knows that the kid is an Uchiha, thus quite likely to be good with Katon.
--I really want to make this Naruto struggle, and not with the usual 'Curse of Hatred' shtick, so if any of you can think of a roadblock for him, please tell me. This came to me while... well, while reading a Sharingan-Naruto fic. In that story, Madara (who was his grandpa) was a father figure (Lel) to Naruto, the latter being mostly a NINO; worse than that, fights were made easier, he befriended Kurama early (!!!), he was getting along with Sakura and his classmates since the Academy, he was best friends with (Fem-)Sasuke since before he found out about being an Uchiha (and for some reason, he didn't even tell her).... The author even made Naruto have black hair with natural blond highlights, for crying out loud!
*He's not a direct descendant of Hashirama, and only distantly related to him and even Mito. It's my headcanon that the only canon Uzumaki he's related to relatively closely, other than his mother, is Karin.
*(2)Minato's hair does look like a (blond) shorter version of Madara's. Have you seen what young Madara's hair is shaped like?
tl;dr: I so wanted to deconstruct the ass out of this genre. (Uchiha!Naruto) >:-D
A)He can't get Chakra from the Kyuubi willingly (Kurama would sooner die than have someone with the Sharingan as his container), though he does get the boost in reserves and a slight boost in healing due to the seal used (the canon Eight Trigrams).
B )While he is much better at using Yin Release than canon Naruto, he's still not very good for an Uchiha, so he is nowhere near as good at casting genjutsu as Madara or even same-age Sasuke, much less Itachi (and his Chakra Control; well, see point 'L'). He is Ashura's transmigrant still after all. (And no, he doesn't get any other bloodlines, much less the Mokuton* or the Rinnegan.) His Wind Release is still his affinity, but it's still of around average potency, like in canon. He doesn't have Sasuke's supercharged (Lightning) primary affinity, or a Wind equivalent.
C)He doesn't get the Mangekyou unless he no longer needs it; that is, only after he befriends Kurama, if he ever does (which will be far, FAR harder than in canon, obviously). While his Uzumaki heritage helps heal his eyes, he won't get the Eternal version anytime soon, if ever. Also, canon Naruto was rather obnoxious and blamed the fox for most of his problems; this doesn't change until he matures a lot in this idea, yet again like canon.
D)Whether he is Madara's grandson or something else(2)*, Madara won't treat him any different than any other Jinchuuriki, or potential asset.
E)Dark Naruto is a lot harder to handle than in canon; the only saving grace is that Kurama doesn't back him at all, but he might have a situation similar to Ichigo and his Inner Hollow from early Bleach; after all, an Uchiha full of hatred is stronger than one who's not. (Yes, Naruto's personality is intact from canon; not a NINO, another difference from usual Narutos in such fanfics, or fanfics in general - well, maybe smarter. EVENTUALLY.)
F)Tsunade is much more wary of him, and Jiraiya won't let him use the Sharingan much in training. Orochimaru is less likely to try to kill Naruto, at least, and Jiraiya will be able to teach him about Fire Release (not to mention Kakashi's help on countering the Sharingan's weaknesses); on the other hand, Obito is a lot more dangerous and manipulative, despite (due to?) seeing himself in Naruto even more.
G)Danzo is also a threat, though how much of one is up to the author, if one chooses to make this idea a reality (hmm. Possibly a Danzo who actually becomes Hokage because of Tsunade's distrust?)
H)There will be no Konoha bashing; as such, Naruto won't awaken his Sharingan until at least his first C-rank mission, not on a 'beating' - unless he awakens it with Mizuki, but it will still be at 12 or later (and canon Naruto didn't need something like that to beat Mizuki anyway).
I)Subsequently, it will be a lot harder for Sasuke to accept him than the usual Sharingan-Naruto fic, since they aren't friends since early on. They have the canon relationship (one sided rivalry that slowly turns into a full-fledged rivalry, and frienemies), but his possession of the Sharingan may make their relationship either more familial or much, much worse. It's a tossup, really.
J)Naruto will find written tests and anything involving Yin Release (like Genjutsu) a lot easier, but he still has the canon trait of needing one-on-one attention from someone who actually cares to shine (and the supercharged physical stamina, so it's like he has ADHD still), so even if he's not the dead last, he's close enough that it won't matter. (If Chouji is dead last and Naruto the second-to-last... well, they'll end up on Ino-Shika-Cho and Team 7 respectively anyway.)
K)The other villages will be a lot more dangerous to him, since he has a major (and nearly extinct) bloodline while still being an Uzumaki Jinchuuriki and the Yellow Flash's son (though he will probably have black-colored eyes, so the resemblance to his dad isn't as great). Attempted assassinations might start happening, or kidnapping attempts, probably both. If Oonoki finds out about both his father and (great?)grandfather, he will stop at nothing to eliminate the threat, most likely. (Even the Fence Sitter isn't immune to fear.)
L)His Chakra control, while SLIGHTLY better than in canon, will still remain sucky until the last few part2 chapters; again, similarly to canon. (His personal reserves are even higher than canon due to a better balance of Yin and Yang, but the Kyuubi doesn't willingly give him the amount it does in canon part2 even with a loosened seal, so it all balances out (he will have a bit more control and a bit less Chakra available than canon in Shippuden.) Thus, any genjutsu above the D-rank will remain all but useless to him until he FULLY masters Sage Mode, and the 'unbreakable' genjutsu cast by a three-tomoe Sharingan... won't be so unbreakable.
M)The higher-ups of Konoha will be even more wary of Naruto than Homura and Koharu were already, even if neither Danzo nor Tsunade is Hokage. So, that Chuunin promotion? Yeah, not happening - he'll be a Genin if he doesn't abandon Konoha (which he probably won't), like canon. (Not that it stopped him from taking down Kage level opponents and above, LOL.)
N)The fighting style of tricking his opponents and using unorthodox tactics, often in conjunction with Shadow Clones; I don't want to change it. He'd probably get a few Wind and Fire ninjutsu, but even when he used them (not often), it would be in Uzumaki Naruto style, and definitely not like a turn-based RPG.
O)Naruto might get the Rasengan much later than in canon. (And the Shadow Clone, possibly slightly later. Just enough for him not to be completely reliant on either the Sharingan or the Shadow Clone; he actually improves his taijutsu early on.) After all, Jiraiya knows that the kid is an Uchiha, thus quite likely to be good with Katon.
--I really want to make this Naruto struggle, and not with the usual 'Curse of Hatred' shtick, so if any of you can think of a roadblock for him, please tell me. This came to me while... well, while reading a Sharingan-Naruto fic. In that story, Madara (who was his grandpa) was a father figure (Lel) to Naruto, the latter being mostly a NINO; worse than that, fights were made easier, he befriended Kurama early (!!!), he was getting along with Sakura and his classmates since the Academy, he was best friends with (Fem-)Sasuke since before he found out about being an Uchiha (and for some reason, he didn't even tell her).... The author even made Naruto have black hair with natural blond highlights, for crying out loud!
*He's not a direct descendant of Hashirama, and only distantly related to him and even Mito. It's my headcanon that the only canon Uzumaki he's related to relatively closely, other than his mother, is Karin.
*(2)Minato's hair does look like a (blond) shorter version of Madara's. Have you seen what young Madara's hair is shaped like?
tl;dr: I so wanted to deconstruct the ass out of this genre. (Uchiha!Naruto) >:-D
Interesting idea. I'm always a fan of desconstruction of bad fanfic cliches.
Keep in mind that Kurama's chakra apparently only began to enter Naruto's circulatory system around the start of the manga (or shortly after.)
This implies that Naruto's stamina and robust circulatory system (that allows him to mould an amount of chakra that a Jounin would be expected to be capable of) is primarily a result of his Uzumaki heritage. Remember that both Naruto and Kakashi were surprised at Naruto healing faster than normal from his self-inflicted stab wound during the Wave arc.
So any AU fic which has Naruto mastering (or gaining any level of proficiency at using) Kurama's chakra at an absurdly young age like six is entirely unsupported by canon mechanics anyway. I suppose that hypothetically if Danzo or Sarutobi had decided to weaponise Naruto (and actually tailored their teaching style to him,) he could have ended up as an absurd prodigy like Kakashi, but he'd still only start to gain access to Kurama's chakra around the same time that he does in canon. That's just how the 8 Trigrams Seal works.
Naruto and Sasuke weren't born as Ashura and Indra's transmigrants, and neither were Hashirama and Madara. They ended up attracting their souls and chakra by having similar philosophies (Friendship/Power is the key to peace.) A Naruto with a wildly dissimilar personality to his canon self would never become Ashura's transmigrant.
If Senju/Uzumaki have a genetic predisposition to Yang Release, and Uchiha have a predisposition to Yin, then a Naruto with Uchiha heritage (did Minato have a recessive gene?) would have a natural aptitude for both. That said, if his chakra control still initially sucks, then Genjutsu would't be an option for a long time, and becoming Ashura's transmigrant might temporarily imbalance his chakra and screw up his Genjutsu for a while.
Also, I'm pretty sure that "strong" or "weak" elemental affinities is complete fanon. Canon Naruto doesn't have a "strong wind affinity." He has a wind affinity, meaning he has an easier time learning to create and control wind-natured chakra. It's also only mentioned in the anime that Sasuke has a natural affinity to lightning. Sasuke was taught the Chidori to face Gaara, and probably learned Lightning Transformation over the time-skip to complement it and to enable him to derive other techniques from it, but there's no indication in the manga that Sasuke had an affinity for lightning.
That said, I'd personally keep Naruto's affinity in your fic as wind, as if you didn't, and you plan on having him complete the Rasengan, you'd have to make up a fire version, which people always seem to want to argue about.
Pretty sure that Dark Naruto would only appear at the Falls of Truth. I was under the impression that it sort of collected all of Naruto's subconscious thoughts, and personified them. A Naruto who's suffering from the Curse of Hatred but who still has his canon personality would obviously have more darker thoughts and impulses "pushed to the back of his mind," but that wouldn't necessarily make the "Dark Naruto" created by the Falls of Truth any stronger. The whole point of the waterfall is that it becomes/creates a mirror, meaning the personified creation is identical in ability. That said, while Dark Sharingan!Naruto wouldn't be any stronger than his counterpart, he'd probably be much harder to overcome, in that Naruto might find it much harder to accept him when Dark Naruto has even more anger and resentment than he did in canon. Naruto might even find himself being overwhelmed, as he was by Kurama's hatred when he first tried to steal his chakra.
...Why? Jiraiya has never been shown to be anti-Uchiha, and if Naruto having the Sharingan makes training easier, then Jiraiya would probably just either train him even harder, or spend even more time "researching."
Besides, the Sharingan's ability to copy Jutsu is kind of overblown. All it does is allow you to memorise hand-seals and let you see how the chakra of a person using a Jutsu moves through their body. Naruto with the Sharingan wouldn't be able to just copy the Rasengan. He'd still need to spend just as much time as he did in canon learning the necessary Shape Manipulation. He wouldn't be able to learn, say, Jiraiya's Earth Release: Swamp of the Underworld without spending a great deal of time and effort to learn Earth Transformation, or whatever techniques use Yang-predominant chakra (Jiraiya's hair-animation jutsu?) without learning that type of "Quality Control."
Kakashi wasn't known as the Copy Nin just because he had a Sharingan. He was known as the Copy Nin because he had a Sharingan and he was a ridiculous genius prodigy who mastered all five basic Nature Transformations, as well as Yin and Yang, as well as becoming proficient enough at Shape Transformation to learn the Rasengan.
While Sasuke's character is hard to read, I'm pretty sure that if he discovered that he had family that wasn't, as far as he at the time knew, a fratricide-committing sociopath, he'd probably be both overjoyed, and terrified that Itachi would come back to finish the job. Which might develop into full-blown hysteria when Itachi tracks down Naruto as he does in canon. I guess maybe he'd also start trying to hammer some basics into Naruto's head.
Actually, I could see Sasuke discovering that he has family driving him even further down Indra's path. I mean, he has something to lose now. He has to get stronger. Itachi's after the only family member he has that he doesn't want dead, Konoha just let him waltz right in with his buddy, beat the tar out of some of their strongest Jounin, and then leave without even any pursuit, and were it not for one of the freaking Legendary Sannin being there, he would have succeeded in obtaining Naruto (and if no-one tells him why Itachi wanted to kidnap Naruto instead of just kill him, Sasuke's imagination might come up with some frightening possibilities.) And what does Kakashi do after all this? Keep talking nonsense about bonds and friendship instead of helping him get stronger so he can kill his brother and protect his cousin.
Well, neither Henge nor Bunshin are Genjutsu, so stronger Yin Charka wouldn't be of any benefit from that perspective. That said, it's been theorised on this board that part of the reason Naruto had so much trouble with the Bunshin is that it's a Ninjutsu with a very strong Yin component, being an illusion with no physical aspect, and as such Naruto's copious amounts of physical energy from his Uzumaki heritage hindered him, making him unable to perform the technique until his chakra balanced itself out (which it did by the time he starts learning Senjutsu.)
Of course, even if this is true, and thus a Naruto with the Sharingan would have stamina and chakra that's less imbalanced while at the academy, his truely awful chakra control would probably mean he'd fail the final exam anyway. Plus, seeing as the Academy is probably primarily theory for Genjutsu (seeing as we never see any Genin use one,) and Naruto would still get "F's" in Cooperation and Classroom Attitude, he'd still be the dead-last.
Keep in mind that Kurama's chakra apparently only began to enter Naruto's circulatory system around the start of the manga (or shortly after.)
This implies that Naruto's stamina and robust circulatory system (that allows him to mould an amount of chakra that a Jounin would be expected to be capable of) is primarily a result of his Uzumaki heritage. Remember that both Naruto and Kakashi were surprised at Naruto healing faster than normal from his self-inflicted stab wound during the Wave arc.
So any AU fic which has Naruto mastering (or gaining any level of proficiency at using) Kurama's chakra at an absurdly young age like six is entirely unsupported by canon mechanics anyway. I suppose that hypothetically if Danzo or Sarutobi had decided to weaponise Naruto (and actually tailored their teaching style to him,) he could have ended up as an absurd prodigy like Kakashi, but he'd still only start to gain access to Kurama's chakra around the same time that he does in canon. That's just how the 8 Trigrams Seal works.
Naruto and Sasuke weren't born as Ashura and Indra's transmigrants, and neither were Hashirama and Madara. They ended up attracting their souls and chakra by having similar philosophies (Friendship/Power is the key to peace.) A Naruto with a wildly dissimilar personality to his canon self would never become Ashura's transmigrant.
If Senju/Uzumaki have a genetic predisposition to Yang Release, and Uchiha have a predisposition to Yin, then a Naruto with Uchiha heritage (did Minato have a recessive gene?) would have a natural aptitude for both. That said, if his chakra control still initially sucks, then Genjutsu would't be an option for a long time, and becoming Ashura's transmigrant might temporarily imbalance his chakra and screw up his Genjutsu for a while.
Also, I'm pretty sure that "strong" or "weak" elemental affinities is complete fanon. Canon Naruto doesn't have a "strong wind affinity." He has a wind affinity, meaning he has an easier time learning to create and control wind-natured chakra. It's also only mentioned in the anime that Sasuke has a natural affinity to lightning. Sasuke was taught the Chidori to face Gaara, and probably learned Lightning Transformation over the time-skip to complement it and to enable him to derive other techniques from it, but there's no indication in the manga that Sasuke had an affinity for lightning.
That said, I'd personally keep Naruto's affinity in your fic as wind, as if you didn't, and you plan on having him complete the Rasengan, you'd have to make up a fire version, which people always seem to want to argue about.
Pretty sure that Dark Naruto would only appear at the Falls of Truth. I was under the impression that it sort of collected all of Naruto's subconscious thoughts, and personified them. A Naruto who's suffering from the Curse of Hatred but who still has his canon personality would obviously have more darker thoughts and impulses "pushed to the back of his mind," but that wouldn't necessarily make the "Dark Naruto" created by the Falls of Truth any stronger. The whole point of the waterfall is that it becomes/creates a mirror, meaning the personified creation is identical in ability. That said, while Dark Sharingan!Naruto wouldn't be any stronger than his counterpart, he'd probably be much harder to overcome, in that Naruto might find it much harder to accept him when Dark Naruto has even more anger and resentment than he did in canon. Naruto might even find himself being overwhelmed, as he was by Kurama's hatred when he first tried to steal his chakra.
...Why? Jiraiya has never been shown to be anti-Uchiha, and if Naruto having the Sharingan makes training easier, then Jiraiya would probably just either train him even harder, or spend even more time "researching."
Besides, the Sharingan's ability to copy Jutsu is kind of overblown. All it does is allow you to memorise hand-seals and let you see how the chakra of a person using a Jutsu moves through their body. Naruto with the Sharingan wouldn't be able to just copy the Rasengan. He'd still need to spend just as much time as he did in canon learning the necessary Shape Manipulation. He wouldn't be able to learn, say, Jiraiya's Earth Release: Swamp of the Underworld without spending a great deal of time and effort to learn Earth Transformation, or whatever techniques use Yang-predominant chakra (Jiraiya's hair-animation jutsu?) without learning that type of "Quality Control."
Kakashi wasn't known as the Copy Nin just because he had a Sharingan. He was known as the Copy Nin because he had a Sharingan and he was a ridiculous genius prodigy who mastered all five basic Nature Transformations, as well as Yin and Yang, as well as becoming proficient enough at Shape Transformation to learn the Rasengan.
While Sasuke's character is hard to read, I'm pretty sure that if he discovered that he had family that wasn't, as far as he at the time knew, a fratricide-committing sociopath, he'd probably be both overjoyed, and terrified that Itachi would come back to finish the job. Which might develop into full-blown hysteria when Itachi tracks down Naruto as he does in canon. I guess maybe he'd also start trying to hammer some basics into Naruto's head.
Actually, I could see Sasuke discovering that he has family driving him even further down Indra's path. I mean, he has something to lose now. He has to get stronger. Itachi's after the only family member he has that he doesn't want dead, Konoha just let him waltz right in with his buddy, beat the tar out of some of their strongest Jounin, and then leave without even any pursuit, and were it not for one of the freaking Legendary Sannin being there, he would have succeeded in obtaining Naruto (and if no-one tells him why Itachi wanted to kidnap Naruto instead of just kill him, Sasuke's imagination might come up with some frightening possibilities.) And what does Kakashi do after all this? Keep talking nonsense about bonds and friendship instead of helping him get stronger so he can kill his brother and protect his cousin.
Well, neither Henge nor Bunshin are Genjutsu, so stronger Yin Charka wouldn't be of any benefit from that perspective. That said, it's been theorised on this board that part of the reason Naruto had so much trouble with the Bunshin is that it's a Ninjutsu with a very strong Yin component, being an illusion with no physical aspect, and as such Naruto's copious amounts of physical energy from his Uzumaki heritage hindered him, making him unable to perform the technique until his chakra balanced itself out (which it did by the time he starts learning Senjutsu.)
Of course, even if this is true, and thus a Naruto with the Sharingan would have stamina and chakra that's less imbalanced while at the academy, his truely awful chakra control would probably mean he'd fail the final exam anyway. Plus, seeing as the Academy is probably primarily theory for Genjutsu (seeing as we never see any Genin use one,) and Naruto would still get "F's" in Cooperation and Classroom Attitude, he'd still be the dead-last.