Naruto Naruto the Movie: The Last
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So two points worth noting.
Naruto is apparently so famous/popular that women travel to Konoha from other villages just to take his picture/talk to him/breath the same air as him.
Naruto is apparently so famous/popular that women travel to Konoha from other villages just to take his picture/talk to him/breath the same air as him.
Kuruma can act independantly of Naruto. I'm not sure with this is because Naruto has two Kuruma's inside of him or just a greater degree of mastery, but at one point Naruto goes Kyuubi mode and Kuruma launches out of him in that golden/chakra construct mode and the then fight independantly. This is not clone shenanigans.
Considering that Yin!Kurama spent all those years with Minato, who defeated and sealed him, and the fact that there's no way of knowing if Minato was using the lesser KCM (the one without Kurama's help), the possibility of 2 Kurama's in Naruto ... the poor boy must have had one hell of a time convincing Yin!Kurama to be friends, even with Yang!Kurama's help.
I don't think Shukaku believes he's the strongest.
He just vehemently disagrees with Kurama's suggestion he is the weakest due to having the fewest tails.
IIRC, Kurama believes number of tails = power.
The actuality is more like One, Two, Three, Four, Five, Six, Seven and Eight Tails are all on about equal footing, most likely with some kind of Rock, Paper, Scissors divide between them.
But the Nine Tails can fuck them all up at the same time.
Well, no, but you get my meaning. He's clearly stronger than any three of them combined.
He just vehemently disagrees with Kurama's suggestion he is the weakest due to having the fewest tails.
IIRC, Kurama believes number of tails = power.
The actuality is more like One, Two, Three, Four, Five, Six, Seven and Eight Tails are all on about equal footing, most likely with some kind of Rock, Paper, Scissors divide between them.
But the Nine Tails can fuck them all up at the same time.
Well, no, but you get my meaning. He's clearly stronger than any three of them combined.
I like to think its exponential, i.e. Juubi is the complete 1, and the rest are fractions: Kyuubi -1/2, Hachibi -1/4, etc.
Although, I'm willing to bet there is a drop off in the exponent when it comes Seven-tails and below. Otherwise Shukaku would be 1/512, which makes no sense.
Keep in mind my theory is going strictly by raw power and chakra, not the Jinchuuriki's skill and the special characteristics of each bijuu (e.g. Sanbi would merc Shukaku pretty badly near a body of water, Nanabi can stick to the skies and spam bijuudama, etc.)
Although, I'm willing to bet there is a drop off in the exponent when it comes Seven-tails and below. Otherwise Shukaku would be 1/512, which makes no sense.
Keep in mind my theory is going strictly by raw power and chakra, not the Jinchuuriki's skill and the special characteristics of each bijuu (e.g. Sanbi would merc Shukaku pretty badly near a body of water, Nanabi can stick to the skies and spam bijuudama, etc.)
Not entirely sure that numbering system is at all correct. For instance, if that were true then the scene were the bijuu (controlled by Obito) combined their Bijuudama's and Kurama fired his own in retaliation; Causing an equal struggle that basically showed Kurama by himself (And at half power mind you, since Yin!Kurama was in Minato) equaled the power of the 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7 tailed beast.
Yeah, not seeing how the power split is at all fair with that.
Addendum: Unless, of course, the Bijuudama has a maximum power setting. Then it wouldn't matter how much chakra the tailed beasts combined, can't get a Bijuudama more powerful then it was right there. Of course the Jyuubi did some weird shape manipulation with that shit...
Yeah, not seeing how the power split is at all fair with that.
Addendum: Unless, of course, the Bijuudama has a maximum power setting. Then it wouldn't matter how much chakra the tailed beasts combined, can't get a Bijuudama more powerful then it was right there. Of course the Jyuubi did some weird shape manipulation with that shit...
I think you are missing the point of Shikaku's argument, which was that Tails don't matter. Kyuubi is the exception.
So Kyuubi has 25% of the Tentails. Meanwhile everyone else is running at 9-10%
No known upper limit exists. Kyuubi and Hachibi created Bjuudama even stronger than the one that they threw at each other before.
And then there is the Juubi's contribution like you said.
I doubt there is a hard limit of how strong a Bjuudama could be, but there will be a soft limit of how much chakra you can put into it.
So Kyuubi has 25% of the Tentails. Meanwhile everyone else is running at 9-10%
No known upper limit exists. Kyuubi and Hachibi created Bjuudama even stronger than the one that they threw at each other before.
And then there is the Juubi's contribution like you said.
I doubt there is a hard limit of how strong a Bjuudama could be, but there will be a soft limit of how much chakra you can put into it.
To be fair to the other bijuu, during the big bijuu battle royale all of Obito's bijuu were tightly sealed away with those chains and stakes and forced to fight against their will in zombified hosts, while Kurama's seal was open and he was willingly cooperating with Naruto. It wouldn't be implausible to suggest that the bindings restricted them from drawing out their full chakra; I think the enslaved bijuu likely weren't fighting at anywhere near their full power. Plus, Kurama had that special chakra construct bijuu mode (likely a result of Naruto being a trained sage since bijuu can gather nature energy) and Naruto helped Kurama form that bijuudama so he probably added the spin from a rasengan to it which would make it superior to a regular bijuudama.
Also it's possible that being split in half didn't actually make Kurama that much weaker, but rather just halved his chakra reserves. Basically, each half of Kyuubi is only slightly weaker than the complete Kyuubi would be but will run out of steam in half the time. Sort of like how Shadow Clones are offensively just as powerful as the real person (if defensively rather fragile) but multiply the user's rate of chakra consumption.
Also it's possible that being split in half didn't actually make Kurama that much weaker, but rather just halved his chakra reserves. Basically, each half of Kyuubi is only slightly weaker than the complete Kyuubi would be but will run out of steam in half the time. Sort of like how Shadow Clones are offensively just as powerful as the real person (if defensively rather fragile) but multiply the user's rate of chakra consumption.
Retsu no Sho: Sakura
Haruno Sakura
Jounin
The kind-heartedkunoichi who uses her many experiences to give her friends a push from behind!
She threw away her weakness, and became her strong self!! In order to catch up with Naruto and Sasuke, Sakura put herself through strict training. Because she naturally possesses precise chakra control, she has mastered medical ninjutsu. Her hidden talent bloomed in the blink of an eye. When she was able to match the two whose backs she had chased, that ability blossomed in full!!
Before:
Sakura, who excels in chakra control, mastered the “byakugou no jutsu.â€
Don’t take women lightly! Sakura’s energetic fighting spirit puts men to shame with its intensity!!
Without losing to Naruto and Sasuke, she personally goes forward to take on the strong opponent Madara…!!
Agility
Before:
A medic ninja must never die… They survive until the end and save their comrades. It is because Sakura understands this duty that she has refined her evasive ability.
Competitive Spirit
Before:
The “ridiculous strength†passed on from Tsunade. Also, the “guts†to not be timid in the face of anything!! No matter what kind of battle field she is on, she faces her opponents’ attacks without fear!!
Art of Sakura
A somewhat small flower-shaped pendant. It is shaped like a cherry blossom, as in Sakura’s name.
More importance is placed on the appearance of her shoes, compared to the shoes she wears on missions. The cross straps are a focal point.
Translated by Eriko
Haruno Sakura
Jounin
The kind-heartedkunoichi who uses her many experiences to give her friends a push from behind!
She threw away her weakness, and became her strong self!! In order to catch up with Naruto and Sasuke, Sakura put herself through strict training. Because she naturally possesses precise chakra control, she has mastered medical ninjutsu. Her hidden talent bloomed in the blink of an eye. When she was able to match the two whose backs she had chased, that ability blossomed in full!!
Before:
Sakura, who excels in chakra control, mastered the “byakugou no jutsu.â€
Don’t take women lightly! Sakura’s energetic fighting spirit puts men to shame with its intensity!!
Without losing to Naruto and Sasuke, she personally goes forward to take on the strong opponent Madara…!!
Agility
Before:
A medic ninja must never die… They survive until the end and save their comrades. It is because Sakura understands this duty that she has refined her evasive ability.
Competitive Spirit
Before:
The “ridiculous strength†passed on from Tsunade. Also, the “guts†to not be timid in the face of anything!! No matter what kind of battle field she is on, she faces her opponents’ attacks without fear!!
Art of Sakura
A somewhat small flower-shaped pendant. It is shaped like a cherry blossom, as in Sakura’s name.
More importance is placed on the appearance of her shoes, compared to the shoes she wears on missions. The cross straps are a focal point.
Translated by Eriko
Retsu no Sho: Sasuke
The lone shinobi who carries the strongest doujutsu
Possessing the powerful doujutsu “sharingan,†Sasuke is the final survivor of the Uchiha clan, and Naruto’s rival. He abandoned the village and became an avenger, but he fought together with Naruto in the Fourth Shinobi World War. After that, he settled things with Naruto and left on a journey. Having experienced numerous battles and awakening the “mangekyou sharingan†and the “rinnegan,†he has mastered genjutsu unparalleled in power.
Before:
A “Susano’o†endowed with absolute power manifests by means of his two doujutsu.
His heart was taken by vengeance towards Konoha, which took his respected and beloved older brother away from him.
Carrying on his brother’s sentiments, he fights alongside Naruto in the final battle.
Kusanagi Sword
Since his time with Orochimaru, he has carried his often-used katana in his sash. Sasuke channels the raiton jutsu “chidori†into this katana and uses it. When he does this, its sharpness can cut in half defensive opponents, katana and all.
Before:
The kusanagi sword with its sharpness increased by raiton. With a slashing attack that made defense useless, he chased after Naruto.
Sharingan and Rinnegan
The “Mangekyou Sharingan†in his right eye is a transplant from his older brother Itachi. It can invoke genjutsu unparalleled in power. The “Rinnegan†in his left eye has the ability to switch his position with that of another person.
Before:
By inheriting the power of the Rikudou Sennin, Sasuke obtained the two ultimate doujutsu.
Art of Sasuke
Cloak: Sasuke’s travel attire is a cloak that completely covers his upper body. His face is usually covered by the hood.
Bandages: Without wrist protectors or shin guards, he is equipped with bandages on his wrists and ankles. With no protective gear whatsoever, he continues his journey with a more casual style than before.
The lone shinobi who carries the strongest doujutsu
Possessing the powerful doujutsu “sharingan,†Sasuke is the final survivor of the Uchiha clan, and Naruto’s rival. He abandoned the village and became an avenger, but he fought together with Naruto in the Fourth Shinobi World War. After that, he settled things with Naruto and left on a journey. Having experienced numerous battles and awakening the “mangekyou sharingan†and the “rinnegan,†he has mastered genjutsu unparalleled in power.
Before:
A “Susano’o†endowed with absolute power manifests by means of his two doujutsu.
His heart was taken by vengeance towards Konoha, which took his respected and beloved older brother away from him.
Carrying on his brother’s sentiments, he fights alongside Naruto in the final battle.
Kusanagi Sword
Since his time with Orochimaru, he has carried his often-used katana in his sash. Sasuke channels the raiton jutsu “chidori†into this katana and uses it. When he does this, its sharpness can cut in half defensive opponents, katana and all.
Before:
The kusanagi sword with its sharpness increased by raiton. With a slashing attack that made defense useless, he chased after Naruto.
Sharingan and Rinnegan
The “Mangekyou Sharingan†in his right eye is a transplant from his older brother Itachi. It can invoke genjutsu unparalleled in power. The “Rinnegan†in his left eye has the ability to switch his position with that of another person.
Before:
By inheriting the power of the Rikudou Sennin, Sasuke obtained the two ultimate doujutsu.
Art of Sasuke
Cloak: Sasuke’s travel attire is a cloak that completely covers his upper body. His face is usually covered by the hood.
Bandages: Without wrist protectors or shin guards, he is equipped with bandages on his wrists and ankles. With no protective gear whatsoever, he continues his journey with a more casual style than before.
