Naruto Naruto the Movie: The Last

jakkuzarippa

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Exposed chest and purple assbow was flamboyantly fabulous.


Now that he's moved past his Hot Topic days, drab grey cloak are his choice of attire when getting his vagabond on.
 

13ry4n

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jakkuzarippa said:
Exposed chest and purple assbow was flamboyantly fabulous.
I've always thought to myself, "Sasuke stop dressing like a stripper, you're no Channing Tatum/Ryan Gosling/whatever. You don't have the kind of body to pull something like that off."
 

nixofcyzerra

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Altered Nova

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I'll repost my comments about the movie from another thread here since it's a more appropriate place for them.

Altered Nova said:
I finally saw The Last movie now too. Wow. This movie sucks. So many plotholes, so many people acting in stupid ways.

Why does Hinata not resist at all the first time the puppets try to kidnap her? And she apparently forgets that she can walk up walls when she's clinging to a scarf on the side of a building.

How do the puppets invade Konoha without setting off the alarm barrier? And why is it that the Hyuuga compound not only has no guards, but was apparently abandoned by everyone except Hanabi?

Why does Naruto forget that he's a perfect jinchuuriki until the very end of the movie, and only uses Sage Mode for one short moment to find where Hanabi is being held?

How did Shikamaru figure out the castle was in the fake sun, and how the hell did he imitate the Sharingan to zoom in on a distant puppet that was opening the barrier and memorize what handseal it used to do so?

Why can everyone apparently BREATHE IN SPACE likes it's no big deal at all?!

Toneri CUT THE FUCKING MOON IN HALF?! Seriously? And Naruto just blocks and powers through that jutsu with his bare fucking hand when he's not even in his powered up Kyuubi Chakra Mode state?

Why doesn't Toneri just one-shot Naruto with his hax-chakra stealing orb attack again like he did earlier in the movie? Naruto would have died without Sakura's treatment and it took him three days to recover!

Why does no one on Naruto's team seem to give a shit that the fucking earth is about to be destroyed by the moon? They all spent like a week casually exploring old ruined cities and knitting scarfs and talking about their feelings instead of focusing on saving the world and rescuing Hanabi.

What was with that flashback to Naruto and Hinata's childhood where Naruto tried to use the Shadow Clone jutsu against some bullies and actually summoned two tiny harmless clones? What, did he actually learn the jutsu years before stealing the forbidden scroll and it was only by reading the scroll that he finally perfected it? The fuck man.

How the hell did Naruto turn his arm into pure chakra, reach inside Hinata's body, and pull out Toneri's chakra orb that was controlling her? When the fuck did he learn how to do anything like that?
Altered Nova said:
The sad thing is, if you can ignore the plotholes, the sappy love story between Naruto and Hinata isn't even bad. I thought it was fairly cute. It's just completely inappropriate considering the context, which is that the world is about to be destroyed by a supervillain. And instead of focusing on stopping the bad guy and saving the planet, these supposedly professional soldiers seem to be more concerned with their love lives. Every time Sakura scolds Naruto for not noticing Hinata's feelings, or Naruto picks a spiderweb out of a blushing Hinata's hair, or Hinata is knitting another goddamn scarf for Naruto, all I could think is "Do these people realize they are on a countdown to armageddon?"
 

Knyght

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I don't get half the crap that went down, to be honest. It's just like every other Naruto movie except it's canon so you can't just ignore the dumb stuff that always crops up in them.

So we get stuck with a mess of a plot for the sake of a romance story that I would have been happy believing involved nothing more than Naruto asking Hinata out for a bowl of ramen a couple of weeks after the war. Hell, Kishimoto could have just written a sidestory depicting various hook-ups - NaruHina, SasuSaku, SaIno, ChouKaru and KibaTama - and it probably would have been better than the entire movie.
 

13ry4n

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One of my biggest problems with the movie is when Naruto gets all sad because his not-girlfriend went off to go get hitched to that lady and has to be bitch slapped and reminded that the THE WORLD IS ENDING!

My other big bugaboo has to do with Tonrei. He sucks. The end.
 

Knyght

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Why did Toneri even want to marry Hinata exactly? I feel like I might have skipped over an explanation there because he's just weirdly obsessed with this girl he's never met for no apparent reason.
 

13ry4n

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knight504 said:
Why did Toneri even want to marry Hinata exactly? I feel like I might have skipped over an explanation there because he's just weirdly obsessed with this girl he's never met for no apparent reason.
He wanted the Hyuuga bloodline. Also the Byakugan. Maybe.
 

AJ_Katon

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13ry4n said:
knight504 said:
Why did Toneri even want to marry Hinata exactly? I feel like I might have skipped over an explanation there because he's just weirdly obsessed with this girl he's never met for no apparent reason.
He wanted the Hyuuga bloodline. Also the Byakugan. Maybe.
So...a dna sample couldn't have done the deed? He wanted Hyuuga kids? Actually he was from prehistoric times so he probably doesn't know how to do grow new eyes.

I kinda forgot some of the movie.
 

13ry4n

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AJ_Katon said:
13ry4n said:
knight504 said:
Why did Toneri even want to marry Hinata exactly? I feel like I might have skipped over an explanation there because he's just weirdly obsessed with this girl he's never met for no apparent reason.
He wanted the Hyuuga bloodline. Also the Byakugan. Maybe.
So...a dna sample couldn't have done the deed? He wanted Hyuuga kids? Actually he was from prehistoric times so he probably doesn't know how to do grow new eyes.

I kinda forgot some of the movie.
Not DNA, the other Hyuuga bloodline.

But, yes he wanted the byakugan because fuck I don't know. That's another problem with this film. I can't remember it!

I saw the Crocodile Hunter Movie once and I remember how it ends! But The Last is such blank void.
 
knight504 said:
Why did Toneri even want to marry Hinata exactly? I feel like I might have skipped over an explanation there because he's just weirdly obsessed with this girl he's never met for no apparent reason.
She's pretty much the first girl he has ever seen, after 19-or-so years alone one the moon.
And he did know when you like a girl very much, you marry her. So he did.
 

AJ_Katon

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knight504 said:
AJ_Katon said:
I kinda forgot some of the movie.
13ry4n said:
That's another problem with this film. I can't remember it!
So it's not just me then. :hmm:
TBF, I went there NarHina...and Hanabi...and Sasuke weirdly enough. I DNGAF to anything else.
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ankokudaishogun said:
knight504 said:
Why did Toneri even want to marry Hinata exactly? I feel like I might have skipped over an explanation there because he's just weirdly obsessed with this girl he's never met for no apparent reason.
She's pretty much the first girl he has ever seen, after 19-or-so years alone one the moon.
And he did know when you like a girl very much, you marry her. So he did.
So he woke up with wood. Gotcha.
 

Altered Nova

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The movie is still fresh in my mind so I think I can explain some of your questions. Although I am still in the dark about a lot of it, mostly because a lot of made no sense, but also because the subtitles just disappeared in the last twenty minutes or so of my copy of the movie and I honestly didn't care enough to find a better version to finish it.

Toneri needed a Byakugan because like every other member of his clan, his eyes were sacrificed to power the Tenseigan at a young age. That's why he had empty eye sockets before kidnapping Hanabi, and it's why the tenseigan is so powerful (it contains the power of thousands of pairs of Byakugan).

He was scoping out the Hyuuga compound because he needed a pair of Byakugan to synchronize with the tenseigan so he could wield it's power directly. That's why he kidnapped Hanabi and stole her eyes. Presumably, he also saw Hinata and fell in love with her at first sight, because he was a creepy sociopath who had never met a real woman after reaching puberty. I think he intended to rebuild the human race with her after wiping out humanity by colliding the moon with the earth, Adam and Eve style.
 

Altered Nova

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Not arguing that point. I was pretty annoyed too when he read Hinata's mind while she was sleeping and saw she loved Naruto and was SHOCKED AND OUTRAGED that she didn't love HIM. And then he demanded she make him a scarf as if that would somehow force her to love him, and was later SHOCKED AND OUTRAGED once again when he learned she really made the scarf for Naruto. And then for a final time he was SHOCKED AND OUTRAGED to learn that she had only accepted his offer of marriage to find her sister and the Tenseigan and had been planning to betray him the whole time.

Seriously, this dude apparently actually thought Hinata had accepted his offer of marriage because she had suddenly fallen in love with the madman who stole her sister's eyes, attempted to murder her sort-of-boyfriend, and was planning to destroy the world. He never suspected that she was lying to him. Toneri was really fucking dumb.
 

13ry4n

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Did they ever actually explain what happened to the moon people other than Senior Yandere Bitchface?
 

Altered Nova

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Sort of. One of the spirits of the dead Ootsutsuki Clan showed Hinata a vision of the past, where the Ootsutsuki Clan waged a civil war over their interpretation of "Homura's celestial decree." The branch family believed that Homura ordered them to observe mankind for a thousand years, and if after all that time they determined that the shinobi of the Earth had betrayed Hagoromo's ideals and were using chakra for evil, they would then destroy them all. What the main family believed the decree to be is never actually explained, but it doesn't matter because the branch family won the civil war.

That explanation doesn't really cut it though, because the flashback shows the branch family using the Tenseigan to absolutely slaughter the main family while suffering no casualties of their own. What happened to all of the hundreds/thousands of victorious branch family Ootsutsuki besides Toneri is never explained. Toneri mentions at one point that his father died when he was young, but he neglects to mention how he died.

Also the dead spirit refers to Hinata as the "Byakugan Princess", but what this means is also never really explained beyond the fact that it apparently means she somehow has Homura's chakra and can thus pass through the barrier placed on the Tenseigan that prevents non-Ootsutsuki from touching it, which is how she was able to help Naruto destroy it.
 

13ry4n

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Hmm, maybe the branch family turned in upon itself once the main family went the way of the dinosaurs.
 

NMR-3

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Altered Nova said:
Not arguing that point. I was pretty annoyed too when he read Hinata's mind while she was sleeping and saw she loved Naruto and was SHOCKED AND OUTRAGED that she didn't love HIM. And then he demanded she make him a scarf as if that would somehow force her to love him, and was later SHOCKED AND OUTRAGED once again when he learned she really made the scarf for Naruto. And then for a final time he was SHOCKED AND OUTRAGED to learn that she had only accepted his offer of marriage to find her sister and the Tenseigan and had been planning to betray him the whole time.

Seriously, this dude apparently actually thought Hinata had accepted his offer of marriage because she had suddenly fallen in love with the madman who stole her sister's eyes, attempted to murder her sort-of-boyfriend, and was planning to destroy the world. He never suspected that she was lying to him. Toneri was really fucking dumb.
Eh, I kinda understood him as essentially having been raised by puppets all his life.
Kinda like someone with autism. Just, y'know, with the power to shatter the earth.
 
NMR-3 said:
Eh, I kinda understood him as essentially having been raised by puppets all his life.
Kinda like someone with autism. Just, y'know, with the power to shatter the earth.
Pretty much. He never had any reference for romantic love and how to deal with it, so he made the conclusion "I am attracted by her->I'm in love with her THEREFORE she is in love with me! But she's still thinking of Naruto and scarves... Wait, that's it! Scarves are proof of love, if she makes me a scarf, she will fall in love with me!"

I wonder if the Main Family was actually the HYUGA Main family. It would explain Hinata being the Byakugan Princess
 

Altered Nova

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Regardless of whether it's stupidity or lack of education or actual mental illness, he's still the lamest supervillain ever. It really annoys me that Naruto spares his life and lets him go free at the end of the movie. If this nitwit deserves mercy, then Madara should have been spared too. Madara was a way better villain and his goal was way less evil - he wanted to create a utopia for humanity with himself as god, whereas Toneri tried to exterminate the entire human race!

ankokudaishogun said:
I wonder if the Main Family was actually the HYUGA Main family. It would explain Hinata being the Byakugan Princess
So survivors of the Ootsutsuki main family fled to Earth and founded the Hyuuga Clan? I suppose they must have forgotten to write down their history with Hamura's decree and the Tenseigan and living on the moon then, since the modern Hyuuga Clan doesn't seem to know about any of that stuff.

Although now I'm wondering what that meeting between Toneri and Hiashi at the beginning of the movie was really about. I suppose that Toneri must have demanded that Hiashi give him a set of Byakugan so he could destroy the world, since Hiashi's response was to attack him and then flee. Although, if Hiashi at least knew that his clan came from the moon that might explain why he was even willing to meet with and listen to Toneri in the first place.
 
Madara died because ripping out a biju(Tentails in this istance) out of its jinchuriki is sure death.

For the Hyuga forgetting their history... blame Black Zetsu. To foment the Uchiha-Senju duality and hatred, so they would keep producing Reincarnations, he probably erased from history all traces of Hagoromo's brother, to keep people thinking they might actually try and be cordial to each other for a change.
Toneri probably did present Hiashi with some relic tied to the Hyuuga clan, or something.
 
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