Naruto New Divergence Points

[ankokudaishogun]

A valid point. Though it would probably be odd that Sasuke would suddenly become obsessed with protecting the leaf when before he never seemed to care.

Not really.
First, he doesn't need to be OBSESSED, not more than any other loyal shinobi. "Protect Konoha" become his first priority, not his ONLY priority.
Second, he just killed two of the biggest EVER threat to Konoha. He might as well state he went missing nin to kill people Konoha couldn't touch with official\standard\orthodox methods. Hell, he might decide to STAY missing nin for that purpose, giving Konoha plausible deniability.

Itachi was so out-of-touch on how normal people think, he though such a vague command like "protect Konoha" would have resulted only in his brother going back to the village to live like a honourable Konoha shinobi. I bet we can blame this on Danzou and\or Tobirama, too!

 

[thecuiy]

o rly? Things'll go off track the moment Naruto arrives, if only because the reunion's interrupted by a MS crow popping out of his mouth.

But first Sasuke's got the entire confrontation with the Gokage as well as a following fight with Danzo. With the evolution of his eyes and loss of the main drawbacks (no pain, clear eye sight and, I think, less chakra consumption), how things turn out there could be significantly different.

He might be a little more psycho too. When Sasuke got his eyes in canon, he went and murdered Zetsu for shits and giggles. Or maybe for revealing him to the Gokage. :hmm:

the pic knight posted actually gives me an idea, what with Itachi talking about Hashirama's chakra. What if Itachi had actually implanted Naruto with Shisui's eye instead of just sticking a crow with it inside of Naruto? Would Naruto be able to spam Kotoamatsukami since he and Hashi both had Asura's chakra?(Not that i think Naruto would be the person to actually do that.)

 

[Altered Nova]

He might be able to spam it just because he's an Uzumaki. Nagato was the only person able to handle Madara's rinnegan because he's an Uzumaki, so apparently the Uzumaki share the Senju's clan's ability to power up magic eyeballs. Being possessed by Ashura would just make him even more ridiculously compatible with a Sharingan.

Honestly I've always felt that Nagato should have given Naruto his rinnegan eyes before dying for exactly those reasons, theoretically Naruto should be able to use them just as effectively as Nagato did. He really had no good reason to bury the eyes with his corpse, especially considering that Konan knew Obito was going to come for them and prepared traps to fend him off. Giving them to Naruto would have been a much better way to keep them safe and really would have fucked over all of Obito and Madara's evil schemes.

 

[thecuiy]

i duno how true this is or not but it might be because Nagato didn't think Naruto could handle the eyes. Remember how Obito was talking about how just implanting one Rinnegan nearly overwhelmed him because of the super powerful chakra?

 

[Altered Nova]

That's a good point that I'd nearly forgotten about. However, if a badass jinchuuriki ninja Uzumaki like Naruto couldn't handle the powerful chakra of transplanted rinnegans, then I really have to question how an untrained civilian child Uzumaki like Nagato was able to survive having both of them implanted in his head.

Also even if that was true, simply destroying the eyes so Obito would never get them was also a pretty sensible option.

 

[thecuiy]

im thinking it was something like, since he was young Nagato's body could adapt and get used to the powerful chakra of the Rinnegan,

And as for destroying the eyes... *shrug*

 

[Knyght]

Nagato thought they were his eyes in the first place; would he have any reason to think that something like Naruto being overwhelmed by their chakra is even possible?

 

[Knyght]

Divergence: Konoha refuses to sacrifice Hiashi or Hizashi to Kumo.

 

[nixofcyzerra]

War? Actually, seeing as Kumo had a Head Ninja, it's possible that the 3rd Raikage was dead and A hadn't been inaugurated.

 

[KurokamiDG]

They most likely coudl've found something incriminating that suggested that Kumo set it up.

I mean, they still had Yamanaka mind readers around so they could've possibly used them to prove that Kumo was at fault.

 

[ankokudaishogun]

Not without entering in the brains of the Kumo ninjas. Which would be a mess for a number of reasons...

 

[Prince Charon]

Silly pre-series divergence:

Deidara, rather than the actions which caused him to become a missing nin, instead decides to become a filmmaker (hey, it works for Michael Bay).

 

[KurokamiDG]

And team 7 unexpectedly gain a valuable ally in the Snow mission?

 

[Knyght]

Divergence: Konoha refuses to sacrifice Hiashi or Hizashi to Kumo.

Kumo restablishes all-out hostilities with Konoha with the excuse that the peace treaty had been broken by them.

The other major nations are drawn into the war as the incident rekindles their greed and grudges. The minor nations, as always, are caught in the crossfire.

Academy training is harsher and faster like usual during wartime to get more ninja out on the field sooner. The Konoha 12 graduate years before they ordinarily would have.

Suspicions towards the Uchiha subside - but do not vanish - as Konoha's attention is drawn to the enemies outside their walls instead of within. But neither side has forgotten the knife that might be hovering at their back.

Tobi sees an ideal opportunity to destroy Konoha and disrupt the balance of power within the world. And his control of the Fourth Mizukage gives him the resources to pull it off.

Likewise, Orochimaru is pleased to see that a new wind is blowing and makes his services invaluable to the many sides of this war. Tsunade, however, is not and returns home to do her part just like in the last war despite her fears and bitterness. Jiraiya's gallivanting is equally cut short.

Akatsuki rapidly makes a name for themselves as they hunt down the growing bounties that crop up during wars and hire themselves to whichever side is willing to pay.

Any attempt to pass through the closed borders of the Land of Rain is met with such an extreme prejudice that it put Hanzo's defiances to shame. No-one is quite sure what to make of the so-called god that resides in Amegakure.

 

[ankokudaishogun]

Actually, a new war, especially initiated by Konoha, is likely to bring Tsunade to get the fuck away from all that shit. She's not going back home.

 

[Knyght]

That she apparently stayed in Konoha through the Third Shinobi War despite the losses and condition she had from the last war suggests that her patriotism didn't vanish entirely. She might laugh at the ideals and stay away from the frontlines but something as big as another world war could make a good enough incentive to do her part for her home village.

On the flipside, if she didn't come back then she and Shizune could end up labelled as missing-nin. Then she'd be in danger from Root Konoha and anyone who might want her skills/death to prevent her going to an enemy.

She'll probably have to say goodbye to her drunken travels either way.

especially initiated by Konoha

Kumo propaganda! Don't listen to the lies, man.

 

[ankokudaishogun]

That she apparently stayed in Konoha through the Third Shinobi War despite the losses and condition she had from the last war suggests that her patriotism didn't vanish entirely.

Actually, do we know when she left? She might well have left just before the war.
Also, you are forgetting her debilitating haemophobia

 

[Knyght]

That she apparently stayed in Konoha through the Third Shinobi War despite the losses and condition she had from the last war suggests that her patriotism didn't vanish entirely.

Actually, do we know when she left? She might well have left just before the war.
Also, you are forgetting her debilitating haemophobia

It's said that Tsunade took Shizune when she left Konoha. Shizune was promoted to chuunin at age 13, so she would have still been in Konoha around 15 years before canon when the Third Shinobi War should have still been going on. So it sounds like Tsunade didn't leave until near the end of the war or after it was over.

And I didn't forget. That's why I mentioned her fears/condition and that she wouldn't be on the frontlines anymore. But if she was in Konoha during the TSW then I doubt she was just sitting on her ass, only her fear of blood meant she wouldn't be able to take on her previous role. So she could have been doing things like training medic-nin, managing the hospital, developing medical jutsu or medicine etc. And maybe getting into fights when necessary like when she fought Kabuto until he deliberately bled on her.

 

[Altered Nova]

Even if Konoha would have tolerated Tsunade ditching the village during a World War (if she were declared unfit for duty due to poor mental health, perhaps), I cannot accept that the village would then have wanted or allowed her to become Hokage. She would be considered unpatriotic and/or unfit for the title, and having a Hokage the world would view as a coward would be political suicide. So logically she must have stayed in Konoha during the Third Shinobi World War and helped in at least a non-combat support role.

 

[ankokudaishogun]

Or, you know, just spent her time drinking at some bar. Then again, it might be the fact she was on a support role in NWW3 that exacerbated her dislike for Konoha enough to bolt out of there as soon as the war was done.

 

[Antimatter]

I figure it was a bit of PTSD from losing her family and lover in the war, combined with god knows what else she had seen. So she took a retirement and wondered the world doing whatever.

Like with Jiraya, it seems like once you have paid your dues to the village, it's possible to live somewhat detached form it, though, still associated with it.

Her being Hokage always seemed like a stopgap measure to me. She's just keeping the seat warm until a successor, either Kakashi or Naruto, was ready to take over. Obviously at this point it's looking like Kakashi will be next, and Naruto after him.

 

[Altered Nova]

What if Kakashi had been able to use his Mangekyou Sharingan immediately after it was awoken from witnessing Rin's death? Would Kakashi having access to Kamui roughly 15 years earlier change anything?

 

[thecuiy]

i think the whole thing with Kakashi's Mangekyou was that he just didn't have the chakra to use it pre-time skip. Just using it twice during the fight with deidara wiped him out.

 

[Altered Nova]

But by the time of the war he was using it way more often. I don't believe his chakra reserves increased that much over the second half of the manga, so think he just got more efficient with the jutsu as he became more accustomed to and skilled at using it. If that's the case then he'd be a beast with the jutsu by the time the manga starts if he'd been using it for over a decade. Well, either that or his Sharingan would be blind.

 

[Antimatter]

I chalk it up to power creep. Kind of how both Kakashi and Z were wiped out over the sort of fight that doesn't even wind a ninja in the later manga.