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whitewhiskey

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...Oh god damn does Oda plan ahead for this shit
 

chronodekar

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Ghostface said:
Chapter's up.

4th Gear's already being debuffed.
I like to think that there's something we missed, but can't refute your statement. But .. why did this have to happen? It's kind-of looking like dragonball Z now. If a new enemy comes along, invent some crazy/new attack to defeat them, but this won't work on the next bunch. I like one piece because that didn't happen - at least with Luffy. Much as Zorro is a favourite character of mine, I don't really see his attacks as 'unique'. It's one style or the other with him.

-chronodekar
 

sinewyk

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I don't see it as being debuffed. I see it as Oda just putting it into perspective. You can have all the strength you want, if you aren't hitting the right thing, it's not gonna matter ^^.
 
I used to be indifferent to sanji, but these chapters are really making him a lot more likeable. And nothing has really changed with his character, so I don't even know why that is.

Really looking forward to Sanji being able to kick in his father's face.
 

chronodekar

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atlas_hugged said:
Really looking forward to Sanji being able to kick in his father's face.
This. The way things are headed, Luffy would probably get Big Mom and Sanji will go after his Dad. Which makes me wonder if he was holding back the last time? i.e. his Dad DID beat him. But beyond that, I don't think he's gone all-out.

If the stuff in the last panel are clones - that's kind of impressive. It means that the Grema-66 had them for years. Wonder if it's a Devil fruit or some other ability?

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sinewyk

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And holy shit, is that arc Epic or what. I'm seriously glad I listened to an old friend saying that One Piece just gets better and better and you just had to power through the first chapters.

I have never been so happy to be wrong and that he was right.
 

whitewhiskey

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Okay, new chapter up.

Sanji's Dad is a mad scientist, Sanji was likely born in a tube, and a mother of a family smackdown is comin'

Also, it took me a bit to think of this...Is Luffy honestly having trouble beating a guy whose weapon is food? How long until Luffy starts to just eat Cracker's crackers? Or maybe just soften them with the triumphant return of Mizu-Luffy
 
whitewhiskey said:
Okay, new chapter up.

Sanji's Dad is a mad scientist, Sanji was likely born in a tube, and a mother of a family smackdown is comin'

Also, it took me a bit to think of this...Is Luffy honestly having trouble beating a guy whose weapon is food? How long until Luffy starts to just eat Cracker's crackers? Or maybe just soften them with the triumphant return of Mizu-Luffy
That would be a pretty good end to the fight.  Cracker man running in horror as luffy chases him, telling him to make more food.
 

whitewhiskey

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atlas_hugged said:
whitewhiskey said:
Okay, new chapter up.

Sanji's Dad is a mad scientist, Sanji was likely born in a tube, and a mother of a family smackdown is comin'

Also, it took me a bit to think of this...Is Luffy honestly having trouble beating a guy whose weapon is food? How long until Luffy starts to just eat Cracker's crackers? Or maybe just soften them with the triumphant return of Mizu-Luffy
That would be a pretty good end to the fight.  Cracker man running in horror as luffy chases him, telling him to make more food.
And in that vein, it seems like Luffy would be the worst enemy of a lot of Big Mom's top tier, even more for those animated by her powers since he would also be eating Soul energy (Some new alt of Nightmare-Luffy could be in the works)
 

chronodekar

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The link: http://mangastream.com/r/one_piece/840/3683/1

Didn't expect Sanji's Dad to be a scientist. But with the imprisionment, I can understand why he hates his family. One that that struck me as a bit odd - when they were younger, it seems that his sister cared for him. Or at least, did not taunt him as much.

-chronodekar
 

BtML

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chronodekar said:
The link: http://mangastream.com/r/one_piece/840/3683/1

Didn't expect Sanji's Dad to be a scientist. But with the imprisionment, I can understand why he hates his family. One that that struck me as a bit odd - when they were younger, it seems that his sister cared for him. Or at least, did not taunt him as much.

-chronodekar
She still cares about Sanji, it's just that, to her, the lifestyle she lives is directly in proportion of how useful she is to her father...and not being a target of being messed around with by her other brothers. Because since Sanji ended up being the "normal" of the lot, and as time went on daddy Vinsmoke realized that Sanji was forever stuck as normal human being (which is apparently un-f***ing-acceptable, since he took great pains to ensure that his progeny was genetically superior to everyone else), he decided that he was never going to amount to anything.

His kids picked up on that, and once it became evident that they could do whatever the hell they wanted to Sanji and get away with it, they decided to milk it for all its worth. Reiju decides to not fight it, and joins in the fun of making fun of Sanji, though she doesn't go to the physical abuse like her brothers did, and even help Sanji occasionally, but she was never going to do anything supportive to Sanji in public less she joins him in the mud.

That does raise a question in my mind. *Is* Sanji now the weakest member of the Vinsmoke dynasty? We didn't see the beatdown take place, but apparently Sanji did rearrange Yonji's face something fierce, and Sanji had no problem kicking Ichi's face in when given a proper motivation.

I honestly think the only reason Sanji hasn't already crushed his brothers and his father is because they're basically holding Baratie restaurant and his hands as a hostage, not to mention all those clones who are being used as literal human shield.
 

BtML

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atlas_hugged said:
whitewhiskey said:
Okay, new chapter up.

Sanji's Dad is a mad scientist, Sanji was likely born in a tube, and a mother of a family smackdown is comin'

Also, it took me a bit to think of this...Is Luffy honestly having trouble beating a guy whose weapon is food? How long until Luffy starts to just eat Cracker's crackers? Or maybe just soften them with the triumphant return of Mizu-Luffy
That would be a pretty good end to the fight.  Cracker man running in horror as luffy chases him, telling him to make more food.
Well...Luffy did end up eating the cracker men...but the fight still isn't over yet.

And man, but I really feel for Sanji here.
 

KurokamiDG

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Ghostface said:
Fuck, man. I feel really sorry for Sanji.

And Reiju seems to have lost a lot of her empathy for her brother, but still cares enough to patch him up. At least there's someone Sanji can rely on...
 

whitewhiskey

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BtML said:
atlas_hugged said:
whitewhiskey said:
Okay, new chapter up.

Sanji's Dad is a mad scientist, Sanji was likely born in a tube, and a mother of a family smackdown is comin'

Also, it took me a bit to think of this...Is Luffy honestly having trouble beating a guy whose weapon is food? How long until Luffy starts to just eat Cracker's crackers? Or maybe just soften them with the triumphant return of Mizu-Luffy
That would be a pretty good end to the fight.  Cracker man running in horror as luffy chases him, telling him to make more food.
Well...Luffy did end up eating the cracker men...but the fight still isn't over yet.
Yeah, I bust out laughing when I saw this

And now I'm going to guess they aren't as much test-tube babies as gene therapy. Nice to see one of them seems to take more after mommy
 
Nami is scary.

I hope Luffy maintains this size for the arc, it seems appropriate for a fight against Big Mom.
 

chronodekar

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atlas_hugged said:
Nami is scary.  

I hope Luffy maintains this size for the arc, it seems appropriate for a fight against Big Mom.
Might well become his next gear attack or something - EAT whatever the opponent throws at you, become a ball and throw them back.

-chronodekar
 

burnerx7

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So? How may straw hats have dumped Luffy just to be recovered in a desperate battle?
 
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