Evangelion Possible Super Robot Taisen/NGE xover I thought up
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Why not have Shinji in a Gespenst at the begining, and then upgrading to something like.. I dunno... the Wild Wuerger? Excellen is a must.
SUPER ROBOT: Think about is as if it were a super hero. They don't follow the laws of phisics. While most of them are big, there are exceptions (Kotetsu Jeeg and Nono). Their weapons can be beams coming from their chest or eyes, giant swords, hammers, etc., and the pilot screams the name of the atack 95% of the time.
REAL ROBOT: These robots are more like military weapons. While they can be unique, most of the time they are mass produced. Smaller and more agile than super robots. The weapons are more conventional, like machine guns, knifes, beam sabers, etc.
Wouldn't you?
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... desu~
SUPER ROBOT: Think about is as if it were a super hero. They don't follow the laws of phisics. While most of them are big, there are exceptions (Kotetsu Jeeg and Nono). Their weapons can be beams coming from their chest or eyes, giant swords, hammers, etc., and the pilot screams the name of the atack 95% of the time.
REAL ROBOT: These robots are more like military weapons. While they can be unique, most of the time they are mass produced. Smaller and more agile than super robots. The weapons are more conventional, like machine guns, knifes, beam sabers, etc.
Wouldn't you?
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...
...
... desu~
Are you a mind reader or something? Shinji's beginning mimics the one in OG - for the very first battle (Sachiel), the only units available are two Gespenst MkII-M's and the Grungust Type-0 piloted by Sanger.
Predictably, in that battle Sanger carries the team, as the Gespenst have a hard time damaging Sachiel.
I intended to have the following cast return from OG (and OG only), along with their final mecha:
-Katina Tarask (Huckebein 008-L)
-Latouni Subbota (Weissritter)
-Sanger Zonvolt (Grungust Type-0)
-Tasuku Shinguuji (Giganscudo)
-Lefina Enfield (Hiryuu Custom)
The rest is the support crew:
-Nicholas 'Hawk' Jonsson (Wildschwein)
-Simon Choi (Gespenst MkII-TT)
-Ignas Cervantes (Schutzwald)
-Dan Odjin (Guarlion)
And the two NGE pilots:
-Shinji Ikari (Alt Eisen)
-Kensuke Aida (Wildraubtier)
If I added Excellen again, I suppose I could give Latouni the Huckebein 008-L, and give Katina the Gespenst R... but then, no Rampage Ghost (there's a reason why I gave it to Latouni).
Thoughts?
Predictably, in that battle Sanger carries the team, as the Gespenst have a hard time damaging Sachiel.
I intended to have the following cast return from OG (and OG only), along with their final mecha:
-Katina Tarask (Huckebein 008-L)
-Latouni Subbota (Weissritter)
-Sanger Zonvolt (Grungust Type-0)
-Tasuku Shinguuji (Giganscudo)
-Lefina Enfield (Hiryuu Custom)
The rest is the support crew:
-Nicholas 'Hawk' Jonsson (Wildschwein)
-Simon Choi (Gespenst MkII-TT)
-Ignas Cervantes (Schutzwald)
-Dan Odjin (Guarlion)
And the two NGE pilots:
-Shinji Ikari (Alt Eisen)
-Kensuke Aida (Wildraubtier)
If I added Excellen again, I suppose I could give Latouni the Huckebein 008-L, and give Katina the Gespenst R... but then, no Rampage Ghost (there's a reason why I gave it to Latouni).
Thoughts?
Oh, and to add to what alansg said:
Super Robots also typically have high armor and HP, because they stink at dodging. Don't expect a Super Robot outside of the Masoukishin to dodge. Real Robots, like Gundams and PTs, are much better, but they tend to crumple like wet paper if they get hit by a Super.
Then there's Battleships, who typically have Super Robot HP and lack of evade, Real Robot armor and some of the most powerful weapons in the game... pity that battleship captains tend to have terrible aim.
Super Robots also typically have high armor and HP, because they stink at dodging. Don't expect a Super Robot outside of the Masoukishin to dodge. Real Robots, like Gundams and PTs, are much better, but they tend to crumple like wet paper if they get hit by a Super.
Then there's Battleships, who typically have Super Robot HP and lack of evade, Real Robot armor and some of the most powerful weapons in the game... pity that battleship captains tend to have terrible aim.
Well, the intended pairing is indeed Shinji and Latouni, but Katina plays a role closer to that she had in OG - namely, the extremely short tempered teammate who tends to not listen to authority.
The fact she's also Shinji's roommate does nothing to make him feel better. For one, Katina doesn't believe in modesty, much like Excellen (though she's not a blatant exhibitionist like her), and for two, he's afraid that if he accidentally looks in the wrong place, she'll kill him. :snigger:
He may care for her, but she's not any les scary. :rofl:
The fact she's also Shinji's roommate does nothing to make him feel better. For one, Katina doesn't believe in modesty, much like Excellen (though she's not a blatant exhibitionist like her), and for two, he's afraid that if he accidentally looks in the wrong place, she'll kill him. :snigger:
He may care for her, but she's not any les scary. :rofl:
If Shinji doesn't die because Hawk's training, Katina will surely do it. Great!
Also, you did mention that the Aerogaters are going to appear in your fic, right? If that happens, then a suggestion: use the F-Type armors for the Evas. I mean, when compared to the Balmarian superior machines like the Juddeca and the R-Gun Rivale, the Evangelions are really underpowered. Good thing OG doesn't have the Black Judecca or the Zfield or it could be worse. And let's not mention the Ganeden.
If you aren't sure what the F-Type Armor can do, look HERE.
Good luck with the fic.
Also, you did mention that the Aerogaters are going to appear in your fic, right? If that happens, then a suggestion: use the F-Type armors for the Evas. I mean, when compared to the Balmarian superior machines like the Juddeca and the R-Gun Rivale, the Evangelions are really underpowered. Good thing OG doesn't have the Black Judecca or the Zfield or it could be worse. And let's not mention the Ganeden.
If you aren't sure what the F-Type Armor can do, look HERE.
Good luck with the fic.
Um, thanks for the link, but I'm on a VERY shitty 56k, so no Youtube for me. Care to explain in detail?
As far as the Aerogater forces go, it's mostly grunt units, with a couple stronger ones thrown in with the later Angels. And yes, later on, Aerogaters will start attacking along with Angels, making cooperation between NERV and the SRT team necessary.
Then, of course, there's the fact that the Neo Granzon (yes, NEO, not regular Granzon) is the final enemy, as opposed to the MP Evangelions. Well, the MP units do show up, but apparently Shuu doesn't appreciate SEELE ruining his own scenario for destruction, and ends up wiping them all out, then turning on the combined 'good guy' forces under Volkruss's influence.
I've also tweaked how the various PTs and Supers stack up to AT fields. Barring the strongest ones (Kaworu, and Rei's), AT Fields can be broken through by a PT's Supreme-level attack, or by the Oxtongue Rifle mounted on the Weissritter. Almost all Super Robots can break it with ease, so Grungust and Giganscudo will be MVPs.
Kaworu's AT Field can pretty much only be broken by the Supers' high-end attacks, like Colossal Blade, or by the Rampage Ghost combo attack. I'm not sure whether this matters though.
As far as the Aerogater forces go, it's mostly grunt units, with a couple stronger ones thrown in with the later Angels. And yes, later on, Aerogaters will start attacking along with Angels, making cooperation between NERV and the SRT team necessary.
Then, of course, there's the fact that the Neo Granzon (yes, NEO, not regular Granzon) is the final enemy, as opposed to the MP Evangelions. Well, the MP units do show up, but apparently Shuu doesn't appreciate SEELE ruining his own scenario for destruction, and ends up wiping them all out, then turning on the combined 'good guy' forces under Volkruss's influence.
I've also tweaked how the various PTs and Supers stack up to AT fields. Barring the strongest ones (Kaworu, and Rei's), AT Fields can be broken through by a PT's Supreme-level attack, or by the Oxtongue Rifle mounted on the Weissritter. Almost all Super Robots can break it with ease, so Grungust and Giganscudo will be MVPs.
Kaworu's AT Field can pretty much only be broken by the Supers' high-end attacks, like Colossal Blade, or by the Rampage Ghost combo attack. I'm not sure whether this matters though.
Uh... okay, so it basically makes Unit 01 faster. It's kinda redundant in my fic then, as the ONE advantage Evangelions have over PTs, and especially Super Robots, is that they are noticeably faster. PTs are average as far as agility goes, and Super Robots are so heavily armored that they neither can nor need to dodge, usually.
Keep in mind that I'm mostly going by memory on he Evangelion side. And while I did watch the whole series, it's been a while.
Keep in mind that I'm mostly going by memory on he Evangelion side. And while I did watch the whole series, it's been a while.
I somehow doubt they are anywhere near as overpowered as standard Super Robot weaponry. And at any rate, I've already set the EVA's advantage over PTs and Supers - agility. Killing it in favor of stupid looking armor and weaponry is totally not worth it.
Granted, EOT would easily enable that shit, but the thing is, ONLY TEAM SRT has access to it. NERV is pretty much left out in the cold on that one.
The whole PT thing is a SECRET. No one really knows they're being developed. The Jet Alone program has nothing to do with them either.
It should be noted that SEELE doesn't know about them either - they are privately funded by Shuu, and are a total wild card in the situation. The also are the ones aware of what the deal with the Aerogaters is... or at least part of it. They however, don't really know about why the Angels are attacking a specific point... Shuu purposely left them in the dark as of that to maximize confusion.
Granted, EOT would easily enable that shit, but the thing is, ONLY TEAM SRT has access to it. NERV is pretty much left out in the cold on that one.
The whole PT thing is a SECRET. No one really knows they're being developed. The Jet Alone program has nothing to do with them either.
It should be noted that SEELE doesn't know about them either - they are privately funded by Shuu, and are a total wild card in the situation. The also are the ones aware of what the deal with the Aerogaters is... or at least part of it. They however, don't really know about why the Angels are attacking a specific point... Shuu purposely left them in the dark as of that to maximize confusion.
Shuu's motives are similar to what he had in Super Robot Taisen 3 - the whole point of all of this was to have a challenge worth his time. He doesn't give a rat's ass about the whole Instrumentality nonsense... all he wants is strong opponents to fight. He's being heavily influenced by Volkruss, hence why he's making the situation as chaotic as possible.
He's on no one's side, but his own.
He's on no one's side, but his own.
Feel free to sue me over that crime. :snigger: My whole setup has been made with Shinji and Latouni replacing Kyosuke and Excellen as pilots, and I decided to boot every actual main in SRTOG, except Sanger, to make things even.
For the record, there'll be no SRX super robot in this, since Rai, Aya and Ryusei are pretty much the only ones capable of piloting it, plus it... er... looks stupid. Not as stupid as Unit 01 (purple and green... :no: ), but...
At any rate, I've made a preliminary list of what mecha I will have in this fic:
SUPER ROBOTS:
-Grungust Type 0
-Giganscudo
-Cybuster
-Granzon
-Neo Granzon
REAL ROBOTS:
-Gespenst MkII-M (both regular and Excellen's version with the weaker Jet Magnum)
-Gespenst MkII-TT
-Gespenst R
-Alt Eisen
-Weissritter
-Wildraubtier
-Wildschwein
-Schutzwald
-Huckebein 008-L
-Lion-F
-Guarlion
BATTLESHIPS:
-Hiryu Custom
I'm also considering adding a few custom PTs based off the LEVs in ZOE 2173 Testament. Namely, Semyl's Caliburnus and Razma's Dreizehn.
For the record, there'll be no SRX super robot in this, since Rai, Aya and Ryusei are pretty much the only ones capable of piloting it, plus it... er... looks stupid. Not as stupid as Unit 01 (purple and green... :no: ), but...
At any rate, I've made a preliminary list of what mecha I will have in this fic:
SUPER ROBOTS:
-Grungust Type 0
-Giganscudo
-Cybuster
-Granzon
-Neo Granzon
REAL ROBOTS:
-Gespenst MkII-M (both regular and Excellen's version with the weaker Jet Magnum)
-Gespenst MkII-TT
-Gespenst R
-Alt Eisen
-Weissritter
-Wildraubtier
-Wildschwein
-Schutzwald
-Huckebein 008-L
-Lion-F
-Guarlion
BATTLESHIPS:
-Hiryu Custom
I'm also considering adding a few custom PTs based off the LEVs in ZOE 2173 Testament. Namely, Semyl's Caliburnus and Razma's Dreizehn.
Hmmm...about how Shinji got recruited into the SRT, how about one of the older members (eg. a scientist or an officer) of the SRT was a friend/relative of Yui Ikari. When news of Yui's dissapearance reached his/her ears, said friend/relative went to pay his/her last respects and eventually learned what happened to Shinji. Furious at Gendo's abandonment of Yui' son, he/she immediately took Shinji under his/her care and went overseas.
Eventually, Shinji would become familiar with and befriend members of the SRT and that's where your original idea of Shinji's possible talent as a pilot gets noticed by the commanding officers in the SRT.
What do you think?
Eventually, Shinji would become familiar with and befriend members of the SRT and that's where your original idea of Shinji's possible talent as a pilot gets noticed by the commanding officers in the SRT.
What do you think?
Eh, I don't like that idea much. Personally, I prefer to use the Ryusei recruitment ripoff, in no small part because introducing a convenient relative smells too much of Mary Sue/Gary Stu. Plus it's a very overused plot device.
Also, for the fic to work as intended, Shinji MUST be at least for a while in the care of the guardians Gendo selected, and must get progressively estranged from him. My aim is for a Shinji who, while being less messed up than in canon, still has self esteem issues. Taking him away from the situation and placing him in the classic, cliched 'nurturing family' environment won't work.
Also, for the fic to work as intended, Shinji MUST be at least for a while in the care of the guardians Gendo selected, and must get progressively estranged from him. My aim is for a Shinji who, while being less messed up than in canon, still has self esteem issues. Taking him away from the situation and placing him in the classic, cliched 'nurturing family' environment won't work.
Okay, I've been working on and off on this idea's plot and background (a necessity, given how big it is), and I've made a final decision on the cast of characters. Note that I decided to add a nod to a couple oher mecha series, even though the idea is still strictly a SRTOG/NGE cross.
This is the final Team SRT:
MAIN PILOTS (and units):
-Shinji Ikari (Gespenst MkII-M, Alt Eisen)
-Kensuke Aida (Gespenst MkII-TT, Wildraubtier)
-Katina Tarask (Gespenst MkII-M, Huckebein 008-L)
-Latouni Subbota (Schutzwald, Weissritter)
-Tasuku Shinguuji (Giganscudo)
-Sanger Zonvolt (Grungust Type-0)
-Lefina Enfield (Hiryu Custom)
-Sean Webley (Hiryu Custom, Vice Captain)
BACKUP PILOTS/SUPPORT PILOTS (and units):
-Nicholas 'Hawk' Jonsson (Wildschwein)
-Dan Odjin (Guarlion)
-Simon Choi (Gespenst MkII-TT)
-Ignas Cervantes (Schutzwald)
-Razma Cascade, Jr. (Dreizehn, guest star from ZoE: Fist of Mars)
-Semyl Shambrow (Caliburnus, guest star from ZoE: Fist of Mars)
SUPPORTING CAST:
-Shuu Shirakawa (Founder of Project SRT, pilot of Granzon/Neo Granzon)
-Saphine Grace (Shuu's right hand woman supervising Project SRT, piloting the Wizoll)
-Masaki Andou (Shuu's rival pilot of Cybuster)
-Marion Radom (director of R&D)
-Irmgard 'Irm' Kazahara (R&D member, occasionally pilots a F28 Messer and a Tausendfussler)
As for NERV, it has the following changes:
-Touji Suzuhara as the Third Child (instead of the Fourth)
This is the final Team SRT:
MAIN PILOTS (and units):
-Shinji Ikari (Gespenst MkII-M, Alt Eisen)
-Kensuke Aida (Gespenst MkII-TT, Wildraubtier)
-Katina Tarask (Gespenst MkII-M, Huckebein 008-L)
-Latouni Subbota (Schutzwald, Weissritter)
-Tasuku Shinguuji (Giganscudo)
-Sanger Zonvolt (Grungust Type-0)
-Lefina Enfield (Hiryu Custom)
-Sean Webley (Hiryu Custom, Vice Captain)
BACKUP PILOTS/SUPPORT PILOTS (and units):
-Nicholas 'Hawk' Jonsson (Wildschwein)
-Dan Odjin (Guarlion)
-Simon Choi (Gespenst MkII-TT)
-Ignas Cervantes (Schutzwald)
-Razma Cascade, Jr. (Dreizehn, guest star from ZoE: Fist of Mars)
-Semyl Shambrow (Caliburnus, guest star from ZoE: Fist of Mars)
SUPPORTING CAST:
-Shuu Shirakawa (Founder of Project SRT, pilot of Granzon/Neo Granzon)
-Saphine Grace (Shuu's right hand woman supervising Project SRT, piloting the Wizoll)
-Masaki Andou (Shuu's rival pilot of Cybuster)
-Marion Radom (director of R&D)
-Irmgard 'Irm' Kazahara (R&D member, occasionally pilots a F28 Messer and a Tausendfussler)
As for NERV, it has the following changes:
-Touji Suzuhara as the Third Child (instead of the Fourth)