Evangelion Possible Super Robot Taisen/NGE xover I thought up

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alansg

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Not bad. My only complain is that Katina deserves a Super Robot. I mean, personality wise, you could say she cast VALOR every minute of her life. Think Asuka in PSM, but worse.

And the lack of psychodrivers is disturbing. Psychics are important during that scenario.

Other than that, the cast looks good.

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And thankfully you are not on 4chan's /m/ or other SRW message board, or you would be flammed to hell just for thinking about a posible SRW/ZOE crossover.
 
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GenocideHeart

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alansg said:
Not bad. My only complain is that? Katina deserves a Super Robot. I mean, personality wise, you could say she cast VALOR every minute of her life. Think Asuka in PSM, but worse.

And the lack of psychodrivers is disturbing. Psychics are important during that scenario.

Other than that, the cast looks good.

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And thankfully you are not on 4chan's /m/ or other SRW message board, or you would be flammed to hell just for thinking about a posible SRW/ZOE crossover.
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I know better than to attempt a ZOE/SRW xover, although rumor has it the next SRW for Wii might have Orbital Frames. Razma and Semyl, along with their LEVs, are strictly cameos.

Technically, both the Dreizehn and the Caliburnus are PTs in this scenario, mind you...

EDIT: I'd also argue that the Huckebein 008-L is the closest thing to a Super a PT can be. The thing is utterly sick.

I did consider making a third Super Robot avalable - namely Grungust, by giving Sanger his custom Daizengar - but... I grew fond of Katina piloting the 008-L. :snigger:
 
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GenocideHeart

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New teaser snippet:

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As Shinji looked over the rooming arrangements, noticing he was sharing a room with a 'Lt. Tarask', a voice spoke up from behind him.

"Ah, you're bunked with me? Nice to meet ya, Shinji-kun," it said, causing him to turn around to greet his new roommate... and find himself face to face with a pair of considerably attractive breasts in a rather tight-fitting uniform.

As the young boy fell backwards spluttering, red in the face, he met the off-colored eyes of his new roommate, twinkling with amusement.

"Well... your greeting was aimed a little low, but I'll let it slip for now," she teased him with a smirk. "I'm Lieutenant Katina Tarask, your new roommate. Keep your hands to yourself, or you'll lose them, eh?"

Shinji fainted.

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:snigger: :snigger: :snigger:
 
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GenocideHeart

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I might post something about this idea sometime soon, but I need an adequate title. Remember this is a serious enough fic, so see if something adequately eye catching comes up.

Thank you. Good night.
 
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Revanant Dragoon

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Wait, you lookin' for suggestions for titles for the fic? If so I'd say "Machines of War" or "God From The Machine" or something similar stickiing with the machine theme. :huh.:

Hope it helps.
 
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GenocideHeart

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Hmm, not a bad title.

By the way, I'm half tempted to throw in the Jaguarandi from Virtual On as a Super Robot for Katina to use, just to make her fans happy... :rofl:
 
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GhostElder

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When I started reading this thread, I was going to suggest looking at the unlockable list if you were in need of more mecha, though the only super types on there for SWR:OG are Grungust, and the Valcion Kai
 
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GenocideHeart

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Okay, I've decided to use a few 'guest units' from other games to fill up the mecha lineup (since even with how cool they are, the OG mecha are... kinda limited in number).

First, I'll have Katina Tarask use this as her final unit:



One thing to note is that I've modified Jaguarandi's type - it's a Super Robot prototype now, basically a walking heavy artillery unit. It also has different weaponry. I'll post the details of it, as well as all other modded 'guest' units, later.

Besides that, I'll keep the Caliburnus and Dreizehn from ZoE.

I'm also toying with adding one final unit from anotherseries, but I'm not too sure, since both ZoE 2173 Testament and Virtual On aren't exactly mainstream games...
 
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GenocideHeart

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Here's the weapons system I devised for the Jaguarandi for this fic's purpose. Most of it is directly lifted from Virtual On.

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Grand Bazooka
**Long-range weapon. Fires explosive shells capable of penetrating even the toughest known alloy. It has a longer range than the grenade launcher, and Jaguarandi can store more rounds for it than for the grenade launcher, so it is its default long range weapon.

Grenade Launcher
**Mid-range weapon. This grenade launcher is mounted on Jaguarandi's left arm, and fires high-power explosive rounds. The default rounds can be swapped for specially treated acidic ones that can corrode most substances, napalm grenades that can cause deep damage or nitrogen grenades that can cause flashfreezing of the target.

8-Way Laser
**Close-to-mid-range weapon. It is a defensive system designed to fire high-intensity lasers all around the unit, damaging anything in range. Due to its nature and the extreme amount of damage the laser can cause, use of it is not recommended when allies are nearby. However, it is ideal when the unit is surrounded.

Laser Blades
**Close-range weapon. The Jaguarandi's default close-range weapon is a modification specifically requested by Katina Tarask, as the original project was strictly a mobile artillery unit. It is a pair of ultrahigh intensity beam swords fixed to the unit's wrists. Unfortunately, the beam generators in the wrists tend to be damaged easily due to their positioning.

Z-Gradt System
**Ultimate weapon system mounted on Jaguarandi. It consists of a stationary, super-long-range megaparticle laser. This weapon is hard to use, as it requires a few minutes of setup to allow for Jaguarandi to morph into its Z-Gradt form, and a few more seconds to store 100% power. It is also extremely dangerous, because the heat from the laser will almost always injure the pilot, and if it is mantained for too long, it can cause fatal third-degree burns. Also note that if Jaguarandi overheats while using the Z-Gradt system, the risk of its core destabilizing and exploding increases progressively.

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Yes, I realize it may look like overkill, but keep in mind the Jaguarandi is a Super Robot, not a Real Robot. As such, its slower than most units (in no small part because it's a prototype, and is gigantic compared to normal PTs), even though its armor can take hits that would make even an Evangelion pause.
 
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GenocideHeart

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Bumping this up for update purposes. It is too late today, but I made a fair bit of progress in the setup of the background for the story, and also made changes to the lineup of characters and mecha.

I'll post what I have tomorrow... g'night for now.
 
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Shikaze

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So soon ?

*Crack whips*

Good for you then.... :snigger:

Edit : Also, it wasn't proposed sooner, but I could see Katina getting the Gespent MkII-S as her final unit. The Gespent Kick is just THAT awesome (think of the Inazuma Kick of Gunbuster, and you'll understand).
That unit and a Graviton Cannon + Katina = Uber-pwnage, be it close and long range. And the idea of her and the MkII-S being included included in the Rampage Ghost for an uber-pwnage of Neo-Granzon just brings tears of joy to my eyes.
 
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Mighty Bob

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I still know nothign bout SRW but damn if I'm not looking forward to this cause you just make it sound so damn interesting. :sisi:
 
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fallacies

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It's a bit late, but you're all aware that Evangelion has been a regular in the non-Original-Generation SRWs for awhile, right? If not, check out the Alpha series, where Shinji becomes a senior ace, or the MX series, which has a Rahxephon/Evangelion crossover as its core plot. Shinji Bright-slapping Kira Yamato has appeared in SRW official 4-komas more than once.

Note that Eva in SRW includes attacks that were eliminated from the TV anime canon in preproduction. Notably, Shinji has a progressive katana called the Magoroku-Exterminate Sword:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/68687393@N00/627894659/

Oh, and he has generic attacks from Hiten Mitsurugi Ryuu ...
 
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GenocideHeart

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fallacies said:
It's a bit late, but you're all aware that Evangelion has been a regular in the non-Original-Generation SRWs for awhile, right? If not, check out the Alpha series, where Shinji becomes a senior ace, or the MX series, which has a Rahxephon/Evangelion crossover as its core plot. Shinji Bright-slapping Kira Yamato has appeared in SRW official 4-komas more than once.

Note that Eva in SRW includes attacks that were eliminated from the TV anime canon in preproduction. Notably, Shinji has a progressive katana called the Magoroku-Exterminate Sword:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/68687393@N00/627894659/

Oh, and he has generic attacks from Hiten Mitsurugi Ryuu ...
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Given how I am a massive SRT fanboy, yes, I am aware Evangelion has been in non-OG games. But I like OG's setting best so far, so there.

(well, second best. My first love is still La-Gias...)
 
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trevelyan1983

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Bumping this one, because it is made of large quantities of Win. And I've been playing a lot of SRT:OG this week.

Now, GH, Shinji/Latouni is a hell of a pairing. It's great. She's got a messed up background and has had a lot of help in becoming somewhat normal. Shinji's just generally messed up. Lots of room for character development and interesting interaction on both sides.

Saying that, I'm not quite sure what the plan is with Alt and Weiss. It seems kinda like they're being put into a pair of PTs with a combo attack just to speed up the pairing.

Now, while I won't deny that Rampage Ghost is cool as fuck, sticking the pairing characters in the pairing PTs just seems a wee bit clumsy. As soon as anyone who's played OG sees it, you're going to lose a lot of the tension that comes from the will they, won't they factor. And that's something I think you'd want to keep - it kept the X-Files going for years after anything resembling a plot had been taken out to the woodshed and beaten to death.

Putting two characters into a long-term situation where they need to spend time working together, is an idea that works. With that in mind, there are a couple of alternatives that would give you a better result with less obvious mechs.

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For teamwork-based Real Robots, I have yet to see anything that beats Mercurius and Vayeate from Gundam Wing. One goes for total defense, with shield funnels, and has an ol' fashioned shield that emits a beam saber. The other goes for total offense, using a Buster Rifle hooked up to a fusion reactor.

If the pilots don't work together, the offense-model gets pwnd and the defense model can't kill shit. When they do work together - well, they came close to owning Wing Zero and Deathscythe Hell during their appearances in Wing. That's not a bad showing.

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Alternatively, have a Zeta/Shiki theme going on. Shinji in the Raubtier acts as high-speed transport for Latouni on the Huck 009. Transform, double-team the fuck out of anything that moves, then surf the Waverider back home to the Hiryu.

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Finally, a slightly different take on the Zeta idea. Stealing straight from Gundam X, have something like the G-Falcon that can actually combine with a PT in order to make it space-flight capable, atmospheric flight-capable and just plain nasty in combat.

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Or, if you want teamwork that leads to overwhelming firepower? Virsago + Ashtaron = Satellite Launcher.

Sorry about the huge post. What can I say? I get excited about awesome mechs. :wub:
 
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GenocideHeart

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Hmm, all good points. I'll think about this a bit more. Hell, recently I've even been considering other pairings, including Shinji/Katina. Now THAT'd be out of left field - Mr. No-Spine and Angry Desu. :rofl:
 
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Shikaze

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Personnaly, I'd think it would be better if the mechas themselves only came from the OG games, in order not to have too much balancing to do. That being said, Trev, you just gave me an idea that could be implemented. When the twin Angel comes, just imagine the sheer CHAOS of the ATX/SRX pilot trying to pair themselves in order to fight the angel as best as they can. Given that they don't simply try the old but tried 'EVERYBODY DOGPILE HIM' tactic. :p
That being said, 'bout pairings, I must admit not really seeing a Katina/Shinji one, even if Shinji grows a pair and gain a spine. Siblings relationship, yeah, but lovers ? Can't see that one. Plus, even if it's an unconventionnal unit, being in a relationship with a teammate IS severely frowned upon in the military. That's why Garnet and Giado quit during the break from OG1 to OG2.
 
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trevelyan1983

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Shikaze said:
Personnaly, I'd think it would be better if the mechas themselves only came from the OG games, in order not to have too much balancing to do.

That being said, 'bout pairings, I must admit not really seeing a Katina/Shinji one, even if Shinji grows a pair and gain a spine. Siblings relationship, yeah, but lovers ? Can't see that one. Plus, even if it's an unconventionnal unit, being in a relationship with a teammate IS severely frowned upon in the military. That's why Garnet and Giado quit during the break from OG1 to OG2.
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Bringing in a whole mech and making it fit - well, this is SRW. If it's a mech, it belongs here. On the other hand, it's also an extra bit of planning to work through before the fic has even started.

That, in my opinion, is the beauty of the Zeta idea. Wildraubtier is already the bastard love child of Zeta Gundam and a GM. And the Huckebeins are deliberate Gundam clones. No fuss, no extra work.

On the subject of Katina, though, I can't see it working. I mean, she seems to have even less self-control than Asuka, and a much nastier personality when pissed off. It also seems that she's about 10 years older than Shinji, and his superior in the chain of command, I don't think it's realistic to try and put them together. Even if she's got a shota fetish, her career is over if she jumps him. :huh.:
 
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GenocideHeart

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Even if she's got a shota fetish, her career is over if she jumps him.
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She's been guilty of insubordination multiple times, attacked superior offics at least twice and generally doesn't get along with almost anyone, except Russell... who incidentally has a personality a lot like Shinji's, in that he's indecisive and has low self esteem.

If the insubordination and violent tendencies HAVEN'T killed her career yet, starting a relationship with a kid who might, much like her, get killed any moment out there won't. If I remember correctly, Sanger once said that you never know when you will die in the line of work Team ATX is in, so you should make the most of it. Hell, he blithely disregarded Excellenýs blatant attempts at getting in Kyosuke's pants - as long as they were effetive in battle, he was fine with it.
 
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JiigarGhen

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^_^ This is a great idea. Thanks for bumping it, trevelyan, I hadn't seen this thread before.

Anyway, I do have one question about putting Shinji in the Alteisen...is he anywhere near as insanely lucky as Kyosuke? I don't know, Shinji just doesn't strike me as the type of robot pilot who could handle something like the Alteisen very well.

Also, I do agree with trevelyan's point on putting Shinji and Latooni in obviously paired robots. It almost seems a little...forced, if that's the right word. Like they're 'destined' to be together.

Other than that, though, I'd really like to see where this goes.
 
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trevelyan1983

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GH, I've been thinking over the suggestions I made earlier, and I wanted to add something.

Weissritter is a light PT, based on speed and heavy firepower, right?

When I considered what other mechs exist that fit the same criteria, I remembered the most badass, most awesome of all light-armour, high-mobility mechs.

Kaempfer.

What would go with it? No clue. I can't think of a mech that quite fits Alteisen's design. The closest I came was a watered down Epyon, which is a beast at close combat but utterly hosed at range. But, even then, I don't think Epyon and Kaempfer mix very well. :huh.:

Still, I offer them for consideration. ^_^

Also, put my mind at ease here - Shu's gonna pwn everything with Granzon, right? Right?

Like, rip apart an Angel with the Granworm Sword and only fall due to the Zerg-like tactics of twenty PTs working together? :cumdrool:
 
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Shikaze

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There are other way to destroy the Neo-Granzon apart from the "Let's dogpile him with all we've got !" strategy ? :p

And if you want to get a high speed and firepower unit, there's always the Astelion. Or barring that, if you want to have fun, make one of the engineer think about the Fairlion, only for him to get beaten up by the resident female pilots who don't want to bear the same of piloting such an unit.
 
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GenocideHeart

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Well, Shu is going to show up basically at the end of it all with his Granzon, and sort of butt in on the MP Eva fight... if you call basically wiping them all out in a matter of seconds 'butting in'.

I suppose Asuka should count herself lucky they bail her out before he turns his attention to her... :p
 
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trevelyan1983

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Shikaze said:
There are other way to destroy the Neo-Granzon apart from the "Let's dogpile him with all we've got !" strategy ? :p
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There bloody well shouldn't be. :D

That said, I did see a YouTube vid of Daizengar one-shotting Granzon . . . or was it Neo Granzon?

Whatever. Even Sanger Zonvolt shouldn't be able to pull that off. ;)
 
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