Ranma ½ Random Ideas Thread #596448255

Jakkun

Well-Known Member
#76
Most people have Nodoka related to Yosho since she is actually good looking. I think I have seen Genma as Nobuyuki's brother before. They sorta look alike.
Tenchi's mom was named Achika. She doesn't look anything like Nodoka or Genma.

I suppose Genma could be a descendant from one of Yosho's earlier marriages. They were never stated that I know of, but he has been living there for 700 years. One fic had Happosai afflict Yosho with some lust moxibustion and he impregnated several women, who were the ancestors to the entire NWC.
 

rootathell

Well-Known Member
#77

Mick

Well-Known Member
#78
Jakkun said:
Most people have Nodoka related to Yosho since she is actually good looking. I think I have seen Genma as Nobuyuki's brother before. They sorta look alike.
Tenchi's mom was named Achika. She doesn't look anything like Nodoka or Genma.

I suppose Genma could be a descendant from one of Yosho's earlier marriages. They were never stated that I know of, but he has been living there for 700 years. One fic had Happosai afflict Yosho with some lust moxibustion and he impregnated several women, who were the ancestors to the entire NWC.
I thought the name Achika was only for the first Tenchi Movie. And the Tenchi Universe series.

But ya I remember that fic you were talking about. The whole Katsuhito being infected by Happosai. I also remember seeing that other fic you mentioned, but can't remember where. Don't remember who wrote those fics either.
 

Lord Raa

Exporter of Juice Tins
#79
Ranma-chan Lover said:
Moshulel said:
This "crossover" if we can name it so, is made of Win.? :snigger:
I think "Made Of Win" would be the perfect title.
Too bad it's called TÆinternet TouretteÆs Syndrome
 

drakensis

Well-Known Member
#80
Mick said:
Jakkun said:
Most people have Nodoka related to Yosho since she is actually good looking. I think I have seen Genma as Nobuyuki's brother before. They sorta look alike.
Tenchi's mom was named Achika. She doesn't look anything like Nodoka or Genma.

I suppose Genma could be a descendant from one of Yosho's earlier marriages. They were never stated that I know of, but he has been living there for 700 years. One fic had Happosai afflict Yosho with some lust moxibustion and he impregnated several women, who were the ancestors to the entire NWC.
I thought the name Achika was only for the first Tenchi Movie. And the Tenchi Universe series.

But ya I remember that fic you were talking about. The whole Katsuhito being infected by Happosai. I also remember seeing that other fic you mentioned, but can't remember where. Don't remember who wrote those fics either.
There are at least 3 continuities in Tenchi. In one (the 1st Movie) Tenchi's mother is Achika. In another (the 3rd OVAs) it is Kiyone, and the character design is significantly different.
 

PCHeintz72

The Sentient Fanfic Search Engine mk II
#81
drakensis said:
Mick said:
Jakkun said:
Most people have Nodoka related to Yosho since she is actually good looking. I think I have seen Genma as Nobuyuki's brother before. They sorta look alike.
Tenchi's mom was named Achika. She doesn't look anything like Nodoka or Genma.

I suppose Genma could be a descendant from one of Yosho's earlier marriages. They were never stated that I know of, but he has been living there for 700 years. One fic had Happosai afflict Yosho with some lust moxibustion and he impregnated several women, who were the ancestors to the entire NWC.
I thought the name Achika was only for the first Tenchi Movie. And the Tenchi Universe series.

But ya I remember that fic you were talking about. The whole Katsuhito being infected by Happosai. I also remember seeing that other fic you mentioned, but can't remember where. Don't remember who wrote those fics either.
There are at least 3 continuities in Tenchi. In one (the 1st Movie) Tenchi's mother is Achika. In another (the 3rd OVAs) it is Kiyone, and the character design is significantly different.
*3* There are a heck of a lot more than 3 continuities in Tenchi.

Tenchi has a bunch of continuities. More than nearly any other anime to come to mind. generally speaking, it is basically:

For the anime:

-'Tenchi Muyo Ryo-Ohki 1 and 2' are nearly always thought as simply 'OVA Continuity' here.
-'Tenchi Muyo Ryo-Ohki 3' in Japan is normally thought of as part of the same OVA continuity. Along with it's special.
-'Tenchi GXP' runs nearly in parallel to the Tenchi Muyo Ryo-Ohki 3 series.
-'Tenchi Universe' would be the 'TV Continuity 1'.
-'Tenchi in Tokyo' would be 'TV Continuity 2'.
-'Pretty Sammy' OVA's 'Pretty Sammy OVA Continuity'.
-'Magical Project S' is 'Pretty Sammy TV Continuity'.
-'Tenchi Muyo In Love 1' is subject of controversy among some fans, due to a few things, like presence of Kiyone, but can be considered 'TV Continuity 1'.
-'Tenchi Muyo Daughter of Darkness', most consider it to be its own continuity.
-'Tenchi Muyo In Love 2', some consider OVA, some its own. The title suggests related to the 1st movie and 'TV Continuity 1'.

For the manga:

-'No Need for Tenchi' manga is a extension of 'Tenchi Muyo Ryo-Ohki 1 and 2' anime but does not take into account 'Tenchi Muyo Ryo-Ohki 3'.
-'All New Adventures of Tenchi Muyo' are separate from the other series, and are done in skit form, the way laid out could be almost part of any other continuity.
-'Tenchi Muyo Sasami Stories' are a separate collection of the Sasami specific stories from 'All New Adventures of Tenchi Muyo'

Most fan fiction I've seen use either OVA or Universe continuities.

If it has Kiyone in it as Mihoshi's partner, then it is either Universe or Tokyo continuities.
If it has Kiyone in it as Tenchi's mom, then it is 'Tenchi Muyo Ryo-Ohki 3' continuity.
If it has Mayuka in it, it is 'Tenchi Muyo Daughter of Darkness' continuity.
If it has Sakuya in it, it is 'Tenchi in Tokyo' continuity.
If it has Washu as Ryoko's mother, then it is 'Tenchi Muyo Ryo-Ohki' continuity.

Most popular exception to this are stories that are OVA 1 & 2 continuity but author specifically places Kiyone (Mihoshi's partner) in it. Most of these specifically state such at the beginning to avoid confusion.

EDIT: The above was pasted from an old post elsewhere and altered, but I forgot to mention that there was also a animated skit style extension to the Manga done by the creator, in the US the only way I'm aware of getting it is on the Tenchi Muyo Ryo-Ohki 3 DVD's. There was also some books and a SNES game that apparently never made it over to the US, and I've not seen but heard about it.
 

Jakkun

Well-Known Member
#82
I don't like the idea of Tenchi's mom having the same name as Mihoshi's partner. I would stick with the Achika name for her. Unless you want to work with the idea of them being the same Kiyone. I have no idea what Kiyone Masaki looks like.
 

ThreadWeaver

Beware of Dog. Cat not trustworthy either.
#83
Well, according to the third OVA, Kiyone Masaki looks exactly like Tenchi's older sister. They even played a cruel joke on Tenchi where his sister shows up mysteriously and acts like his mother for a short while.
 

Lord Raa

Exporter of Juice Tins
#84
ThreadWeaver said:
Well, according to the third OVA, Kiyone Masaki looks exactly like Tenchi's older sister. They even played a cruel joke on Tenchi where his sister shows up mysteriously and acts like his mother for a short while.
Tenchi has an older sister? When was she retconned in?

Hmm makes think this is the sort of thing that can be overheard at AIC:

Tenchi Muyo Creative Staff> Continuity? We've heard of it!
 

ThreadWeaver

Beware of Dog. Cat not trustworthy either.
#85
Yup... 3rd OVA first disk, second episode. "Fiancee"
Her name is Tenyo. And she apparently looks exactly like Kiyone. enough for them to often switch places prior to Kiyone's death.

 

Lord Raa

Exporter of Juice Tins
#86
Hang on, Tenchi's fiancee is his sister?

Even if she's not, she looks a lot like his mother - that's gotta make for some confusing dreams.
 

Jakkun

Well-Known Member
#87
I like the Achika design better.

Where the hell would silver hair come from? Yosho has dark hair, his mother has dark hair, his father has dark hair. His wife had silver hair, but she was also old.
 

EagleCeres

Well-Known Member
#88
ThreadWeaver said:
Yup...? 3rd OVA first disk, second episode. "Fiancee"
Her name is Tenyo.? And she apparently looks exactly like Kiyone.? enough for them to often switch places prior to Kiyone's death.

<image snipped>
actually Tennyo Masaki is Tenchi's
<spoiler alert... select to read>
sister, he always called her 'obaa-chan' as in granny, but no, she is HIS SISTER that got taken by Jurai for someodd reason
his fiancee is actually the chick that sorta looks more like Kiyone from the Tenchi TV series er... what'sherface... ah yes
Noike Kamiki Jurai, too bad she had to cut her hair, she looked prettier, and she's part of the Jurai family because (i believe) Seto adopted her

</spoiler alert>
all of this retconned or better yet... information finally given in in the 3rd OAV series >.>

i swear, it's like Anime Companies are reading fan forums and stealing ideas
 

ThreadWeaver

Beware of Dog. Cat not trustworthy either.
#89
No, Tenchi's fiancee is named "Noike". In the japanese-direct-to-english subtitles she almost introduces herself with a "Kami" family name. She's a plant by Irie (sp?) (the emerald-haired Masaki that Plays a big roll in Tenchi GXP. Irie is apparently Yosho's wife.) to keep track of Tenchi's developing Godhood.

Edit: Noike is apparently taking the place of Kiyone as Mihoshi's ex-partner in the GP. She acts a lot like Kiyone, come to think of it. Noike is, if I remember correctly, a part of Kagato split off long ago. The whole web makes my head hurt, honestly.

 

EagleCeres

Well-Known Member
#90
ThreadWeaver said:
No, Tenchi's fiancee is named "Noike".? In the japanese subtitles she almost introduces herself with a "Kami" family name.? She's a plant by Irie (sp?) (the emerald-haired Masaki that Plays a big roll in Tenchi GXP.? Irie is apparently Yosho's wife.) to keep track of Tenchi's developing Godhood.

<image snipped>
Airi is Yosho's Juraian wife... damn pimp!

and i think she was originally planted by good old Gramma Seto (the Oni-hime)
 

ThreadWeaver

Beware of Dog. Cat not trustworthy either.
#91
You're right. It was Seto behind it. If I had refreshed before posting, I wouldn't have needed to at all.

There is a 1 second memory flash that shows a very young Noike cuddled up to Tenchi right before it flashes back and she starts bawling. Most of the info in the 3rd ova is given in quick flashes and off hand remarks. Thank god for single frame advance.
 

Jakkun

Well-Known Member
#92
Why didn't they keep Achika as the mothers name and have the fiance be Kiyone since they look kinda similar? That's Kishi quality planning right there. >_<
 
#93
PCHeintz72 said:
*3*á There are a heck of a lot more than 3 continuities in Tenchi.á

Tenchi has a bunch of continuities. More than nearly any other anime to come to mind. generally speaking, it is basically:

For the anime:

-'Tenchi Muyo Ryo-Ohki 1 and 2' are nearly always thought as simply 'OVA Continuity' here.
-'Tenchi Muyo Ryo-Ohki 3' in Japan is normally thought of as part of the same OVA continuity. Along with it's special.
-'Tenchi GXP' runs nearly in parallel to the Tenchi Muyo Ryo-Ohki 3 series.
-'Tenchi Universe' would be the 'TV Continuity 1'.
-'Tenchi in Tokyo' would be 'TV Continuity 2'.
-'Pretty Sammy' OVA's 'Pretty Sammy OVA Continuity'.
-'Magical Project S' is 'Pretty Sammy TV Continuity'.
-'Tenchi Muyo In Love 1' is subject of controversy among some fans, due to a few things, like presence of Kiyone, but can be considered 'TV Continuity 1'.
-'Tenchi Muyo Daughter of Darkness', most consider it to be its own continuity.
-'Tenchi Muyo In Love 2', some consider OVA, some its own.á The title suggests related to the 1st movie and 'TV Continuity 1'.

For the manga:

-'No Need for Tenchi' manga is a extension of 'Tenchi Muyo Ryo-Ohki 1 and 2' anime but does not take into account 'Tenchi Muyo Ryo-Ohki 3'.
-'All New Adventures of Tenchi Muyo' are separate from the other series, and are done in skit form, the way laid out could be almost part of any other continuity.
-'Tenchi Muyo Sasami Stories' are a separate collection of the Sasami specific stories from 'All New Adventures of Tenchi Muyo'

Most fan fiction I've seen use either OVA or Universe continuities.

If it has Kiyone in it as Mihoshi's partner, then it is either Universe or Tokyo continuities.
If it has Kiyone in it as Tenchi's mom, then it is 'Tenchi Muyo Ryo-Ohki 3' continuity.
If it has Mayuka in it, it is 'Tenchi Muyo Daughter of Darkness' continuity.
If it has Sakuya in it, it is 'Tenchi in Tokyo' continuity.
If it has Washu as Ryoko's mother, then it is 'Tenchi Muyo Ryo-Ohki' continuity.

Most popular exception to this are stories that are OVA 1 & 2 continuity but author specifically places Kiyone (Mihoshi's partner) in it. Most of these specifically state such at the beginning to avoid confusion.

EDIT:á The above was pasted from an old post elsewhere and altered, but I forgot to mention that there was also a animated skit style extension to the Manga done by the creator, in the US the only way I'm aware of getting it is on the Tenchi Muyo Ryo-Ohki 3 DVD's.á There was also some books and a SNES game that apparently never made it over to the US, and I've not seen but heard about it.

Presenting the number one reason why I loathe this series and basically everything involved with it. You need a list to keep the continuities straight.

FAIL.
 

Jakkun

Well-Known Member
#94
It doesn't help that it doesn't always look good. Noike is not all that hot, his sister is not all that hot. When fanart looks better than the officials, you know that the official art sucks.
 

PCHeintz72

The Sentient Fanfic Search Engine mk II
#95
Presenting the number one reason why I loathe this series and basically everything involved with it. You need a list to keep the continuities straight.
Not really, if you follow OVA anime continuity, and Universe continuity, you can follow probably 90%+ of the fanfiction Community. If youfollow the first Manga continuit, then you pretty much got the manga based fan fiction cornered.

All the other continuities were not near as popular. Though they occasionally found. Tenchi was one of the very first examples of anime I ever watched, back when Sci-Fi first started is Anime Saturday showings. It was also one of the first series I ever bought, back in 97 on VHS (long since upgraded to non-Cartoon Network issue DVD's).

It doesn't help that it doesn't always look good. Noike is not all that hot, his sister is not all that hot. When fanart looks better than the officials, you know that the official art sucks.
Hmmm... I actually like how Noike, Amane, and Irie look, among several others form OVA 3 and GXP. However, there was one animation change that annoys theheck out of me on nearly every character I've seen it on in those series. How the eyes are shown on characters when showing stress.
 

Jakkun

Well-Known Member
#96
Noike just looks creepy in that pic. Tenyo looks exactly like Tenchi. I just don't like the facial style they use.
 

Mick

Well-Known Member
#97
drakensis said:
Mick said:
Jakkun said:
Most people have Nodoka related to Yosho since she is actually good looking. I think I have seen Genma as Nobuyuki's brother before. They sorta look alike.
Tenchi's mom was named Achika. She doesn't look anything like Nodoka or Genma.

I suppose Genma could be a descendant from one of Yosho's earlier marriages. They were never stated that I know of, but he has been living there for 700 years. One fic had Happosai afflict Yosho with some lust moxibustion and he impregnated several women, who were the ancestors to the entire NWC.
I thought the name Achika was only for the first Tenchi Movie. And the Tenchi Universe series.

But ya I remember that fic you were talking about. The whole Katsuhito being infected by Happosai. I also remember seeing that other fic you mentioned, but can't remember where. Don't remember who wrote those fics either.
There are at least 3 continuities in Tenchi. In one (the 1st Movie) Tenchi's mother is Achika. In another (the 3rd OVAs) it is Kiyone, and the character design is significantly different.
If I had actually time, a pre-reader, and actually skill, I'd use the Tenchi OVA continuity to write out the idea. All though I'd have more to work with if I used Achika. And yes, I did like her design more then the Kiyone from the ova.

Unfortunately working for a living really burns me out. Also I only have the thirst 13 or so of the Ranma manga, and I haven't sat down and watched Tenchi for quite some time. I also think Noike is very annoying.
 

Lord Raa

Exporter of Juice Tins
#98
Just had another idea.

What if Kodachi's mother was.....

Lady Seto?

It certainly explains a few things, doesn't it?

Of course, if/when Tatewaki finds out, there's a good chance he'll flip out and laugh as he realises that he can indeed have both.

But then again, it might work as a better fic if he and Kodachi have different mothers.

We can't have Tatebaka being happy and/or powerful - it's against the natural order!
 

lethum

Well-Known Member
#99
Lord Raa said:
Just had another idea.

What if Kodachi's mother was.....

Lady Seto?

It certainly explains a few things, doesn't it?

Of course, if/when Tatewaki finds out, there's a good chance he'll flip out and laugh as he realises that he can indeed have both.

But then again, it might work as a better fic if he and Kodachi have different mothers.

We can't have Tatebaka being happy and/or powerful - it's against the natural order!
If this happens, you just KNOW that Lady Seto somehow met Genma and engaged Kodachi and Ranma.
 
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