The White Devil of the Moon Chapter 2

nick012000

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#26
Megaolix said:
nick012000 said:
A thought: the problem is that Nanoha's Linker Core was damaged, right? As Sailor Moon, she wouldn't be drawing on her own Linker Core for power; she's be calling on the power of the Moon. Raising Heart would probably realize this if she activates the makeup case, either intentionally or accidentally. Nahoha probably would as well, if she uses any of Sailor Moon's magic, though she might not realize exactly where the power is coming from.

Now remember what Nanoha can do with the magic wasted during a magical battle between a few regular mages, and imagine what she might do with the power of an entire planet at her disposal.á :snigger:
Nanoha has physical trouble as well, remember? My brother stayed 3 months stuck in a hospital bed due to an accident and couldn't even walk by himself when he was finally out. Nanoha stayed 6 months in bed. Forget helping, her body won't hold.

@AbyssalDaemon

Isn't the question on the Senshi a bit late at this point? But I do agree on the forced part.
Sailor Moon has super strength, to the point where she accidentally jumped into orbit. I think Nanoha would be strong enough to get out of bed once she transformed, even if she was weakened enough to be bedridden normally.
 

Reimu

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#27
Well, you could make that even though the transformation of sailor moon could give back Nanoha's full mobility, after the transformation she ends up worse physically for putting extra stress on her body.
 

Megaolix

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#28
Reimu said:
Well, you could make that even though the transformation of sailor moon could give back Nanoha's full mobility, after the transformation she ends up worse physically for putting extra stress on her body.
Isn't that a moot point anyway? Fate won't allow Nanoha to fight until her condition is normal again. Even with strength, Nanoha will probably be unable to have as much mobility as you claim. Muscle memory, remember? She relearned how to walk, but do you think her body remember how to dodge and fight? No way. Her timing will be off and she'll just get worse.

Mobility isn't just a question of strength, people.
 

Prince Charon

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#29
Reimu said:
Well, you could make that even though the transformation of sailor moon could give back Nanoha's full mobility, after the transformation she ends up worse physically for putting extra stress on her body.
Unlikely: none of the Senshi seem at all stressed in canon, after detransforming, IIRC.
 

Minami

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#30
Actually it seems it could be argued either way that the transformation could hinder or help you.

Anime example. Makoto, was still pretty weak after drawing blood when she transformed and it was a struggle for her to stand. Seiya on the other hand who had a severe head injury that stayed for a couple episodes seemed to be just fine while he transformed.

A senshi's pain threshold seems to be increased to a insane point in both the anime and manga though. Michiru got shot from every angle several times in the anime. In the manga Usagi was able to stand her giant wings (actual wings, not the fake ones from the anime) be ripped off her body, fight Galaxia and the evil Eternal Moded Senshi and win. Galaxia even noted she was holding back from my memory.

Though I am seriously wondering why Mamoru is here. Anime and Manga has him listed as a enemy by the senshi excluding Sailor Moon.
 

BF110C4

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#31
In Luna's defense there is quite a bit of suspension of disbelieve into an organization like the TSAB, and until now she has no reason to believe there is more magic on earth than the remants of the Silver Millenium, so if Fate's a mage, she has to be either from the good or the bad side, but her suit is not part of the Sailor Scouts, so she has to be the enemy. And on the other hand, both Luna AND could have expanded on their answers, before trading threats, Luna for not saying at least an abreviated version of the Youma Menace, and Fate could at least give them contact info to the local office of the TSAB in case they didn't have interdimensional comms and they only knew of Nanoha's status as an officer.

If you want a stupid plan for the Senshi, make them use Luna as a bait for Arf, making her enrage Fate's Familiar and doing the desperate chase scene towards the park or any other public-but-isolated place where the ambush can be done, using both Mars and Jupiter in a combo attack to bring Arf down, and leading Fate into a kill zone of magical strikes while Minako (who is the only one who has made positive contact with both Fate and Nanoha) stays near the Hotel in order to at last deliver the message.

The trick in the previous scenario is to separate Minako from the rest in order to let them do an unauthorized escalade (from distraction, to ambush, to open warfare) and when Fate get serious in order to let Nanoha watch Venus transform in order to save their allies.

For a second match the same formula of A's would probably work, an unexpected crash on a neutral area where the already heated misunderstanding can blow into a free for all with more Scout on the area and Fate restricted both by tactical and mobility issues, a Youma or two would just made the fight into a three way combat. The kind of chaotic battle that Nanoha cannot just see from the sidelines
 

nick012000

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#32
A thought: the Millennium Silver Crystal is basically a superpowered magic battery, right?

Imagine the scene. Nanoha's fighting Metallia; Fate, the Senshi, and the Wolkenritter are off fighting Metallia's minions elsewhere (and possibly losing), her clothing's scuffed and strategically torn, et cetera. She puts her hand to the bow, and clicks open the locket.

"Full power!"

The Millennium Silver Crystal is in her hand, which she raises into the air. Raising Heart's cartridge slide clicks open.

"Absolute Destruction!"

She slaps it into the slot, and the slot slam-clicks closed. The gemstone flashes, and writing appears. Its modulated voice calls out in unity with her own.

"Millennium Moonlight Breaker!"
 

BF110C4

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#33
nick012000 said:
A thought: the Millennium Silver Crystal is basically a superpowered magic battery, right?

Imagine the scene. Nanoha's fighting Metallia; Fate, the Senshi, and the Wolkenritter are off fighting Metallia's minions elsewhere (and possibly losing), her clothing's scuffed and strategically torn, et cetera. She puts her hand to the bow, and clicks open the locket.

"Full power!"

The Millennium Silver Crystal is in her hand, which she raises into the air. Raising Heart's cartridge slide clicks open.

"Absolute Destruction!"

She slaps it into the slot, and the slot slam-clicks closed. The gemstone flashes, and writing appears. Its modulated voice calls out in unity with her own.

"Millennium Moonlight Breaker!"
Cool, but not on the slide, but in the tip of the lance used to concentrate and saturate the energy needed for the "Millennium Moonlight Breaker!" and allowing to add cartridges as needed.
 

nick012000

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#34
BF110C4 said:
nick012000 said:
A thought: the Millennium Silver Crystal is basically a superpowered magic battery, right?

Imagine the scene. Nanoha's fighting Metallia; Fate, the Senshi, and the Wolkenritter are off fighting Metallia's minions elsewhere (and possibly losing), her clothing's scuffed and strategically torn, et cetera. She puts her hand to the bow, and clicks open the locket.

"Full power!"

The Millennium Silver Crystal is in her hand, which she raises into the air. Raising Heart's cartridge slide clicks open.

"Absolute Destruction!"

She slaps it into the slot, and the slot slam-clicks closed. The gemstone flashes, and writing appears. Its modulated voice calls out in unity with her own.

"Millennium Moonlight Breaker!"
Cool, but not on the slide, but in the tip of the lance used to concentrate and saturate the energy needed for the "Millennium Moonlight Breaker!" and allowing to add cartridges as needed.
Maybe, but additional cartridges wouldn't do any good since she'd already have a limitless power supply, and slapping it into the slide opening would be cooler than putting it on the end, even if it'd be closer to Sailor Moon's actual wand.

Also, it's totally capable of giant pink explosions, though Nanoha wouldn't overuse its power to the degree it would endanger her friends. She'd just focus it into a giant deathbeam to wipe Metallia out.
 

Mercsenary

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#35
nick012000 said:
BF110C4 said:
nick012000 said:
A thought: the Millennium Silver Crystal is basically a superpowered magic battery, right?

Imagine the scene. Nanoha's fighting Metallia; Fate, the Senshi, and the Wolkenritter are off fighting Metallia's minions elsewhere (and possibly losing), her clothing's scuffed and strategically torn, et cetera. She puts her hand to the bow, and clicks open the locket.

"Full power!"

The Millennium Silver Crystal is in her hand, which she raises into the air. Raising Heart's cartridge slide clicks open.

"Absolute Destruction!"

She slaps it into the slot, and the slot slam-clicks closed. The gemstone flashes, and writing appears. Its modulated voice calls out in unity with her own.

"Millennium Moonlight Breaker!"
Cool, but not on the slide, but in the tip of the lance used to concentrate and saturate the energy needed for the "Millennium Moonlight Breaker!" and allowing to add cartridges as needed.
Maybe, but additional cartridges wouldn't do any good since she'd already have a limitless power supply, and slapping it into the slide opening would be cooler than putting it on the end, even if it'd be closer to Sailor Moon's actual wand.

Also, it's totally capable of giant pink explosions, though Nanoha wouldn't overuse its power to the degree it would endanger her friends. She'd just focus it into a giant deathbeam to wipe Metallia out.
Kind of like having a dying battery powered fan that can be plugged in(They exist I swear).

Still usable but not much air movement.

Plug that sucker in with near unlimited energy. YEAH! FULLPOWER AIRCONDITIONING!


DONT JUDGE ME!
 

BF110C4

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#36
nick012000 said:
BF110C4 said:
nick012000 said:
A thought: the Millennium Silver Crystal is basically a superpowered magic battery, right?

Imagine the scene. Nanoha's fighting Metallia; Fate, the Senshi, and the Wolkenritter are off fighting Metallia's minions elsewhere (and possibly losing), her clothing's scuffed and strategically torn, et cetera. She puts her hand to the bow, and clicks open the locket.

"Full power!"

The Millennium Silver Crystal is in her hand, which she raises into the air. Raising Heart's cartridge slide clicks open.

"Absolute Destruction!"

She slaps it into the slot, and the slot slam-clicks closed. The gemstone flashes, and writing appears. Its modulated voice calls out in unity with her own.

"Millennium Moonlight Breaker!"
Cool, but not on the slide, but in the tip of the lance used to concentrate and saturate the energy needed for the "Millennium Moonlight Breaker!" and allowing to add cartridges as needed.
Maybe, but additional cartridges wouldn't do any good since she'd already have a limitless power supply, and slapping it into the slide opening would be cooler than putting it on the end, even if it'd be closer to Sailor Moon's actual wand.

Also, it's totally capable of giant pink explosions, though Nanoha wouldn't overuse its power to the degree it would endanger her friends. She'd just focus it into a giant deathbeam to wipe Metallia out.
Ahhh!!!, but you are my man thinking small, after all who needs Sailor Saturn, just plug Nanoha, Raiging Heart and the Millenium Cristal to the Asura, and what you go?, a Pink Ray of DOOM capable of craking the core of those bothersome alien planets or collapsing those dreadful dimensional pockets. WMB (Weapons of Mass Befriending).
 
#37
Luna is out of character in comparison to canon. She should be. The way I see it, she's had to hold the team together, where Usagi would have before. She's cracking under the strain.

I also forsee a tear jerker ending with Alicia. Precia is going to bring her back with stolen energy, I think she'll come back wrong. She'll need more and more energy. In the end I see a heroic sacrifice on her part.

i also want to see Precia go crazy bitch on one of the Dark Generals. Zoicite mocks her about alicia, and snap. Precia is on him like Palpitine on Luke.
 

Canis

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#38
It's been a while since I saw the anime (at least the dubbed version - never watched any subs that may be about) and this Luna may be a bit...stretched, but she does match what I remember of her during the Senshi activation arc where Moon was finding and awakening the other Senshi. Luna with Mercury and Jupiter thought both were either Dark Kingdom agents, plants, or pawns before she realized that they were senshi.

Additionally, Fate is a Dark Magical Girl. Reformed yes, but she still retains the same powers and looks so Luna can be slightly forgiven for making the jump she did. Also, Luna is operating on the idea that Light = Good and Dark = Bad. There is no Gray, Neutral, etc. in her worldview at this point.
 
#39
Ya know, if Luna ever saw some of the Magical Girl realities out there, she'd probably have an aneurysm.

Take Strike Witches for instance; they're Government-sanctioned Petting Zoo Magical Girls who fly through the air with the greatest of ease, while they fight alien invaders using Machine guns, rocket launchers, and Swords that can slice through Battleship plate armour like a hot knife through butter...
 

bissek

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#40
I was planning for Alicia's revival to be makeshift - Precia will need to infuse her with more energy on a regular basis to keep her alive. I hadn't thought of a Heroic Sacrifice. I had considered 1) Alicia meeting Hotaru, and 2) Alicia learning that she has a little sister - who is twice her age.

Precia doing something nasty to a General? Yes. Any suggestions on which one? Jadeite's doom is already determined.

One additional possibility for later: Minako's dream job is to be a singer. One of Nanoha's family friends (who will be making it to the wedding) is Fiasse Crystela, headmaster of a world renowned music school.
 

AbyssalDaemon

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#41
Canis said:
It's been a while since I saw the anime (at least the dubbed version - never watched any subs that may be about) and this Luna may be a bit...stretched, but she does match what I remember of her during the Senshi activation arc where Moon was finding and awakening the other Senshi. Luna with Mercury and Jupiter thought both were either Dark Kingdom agents, plants, or pawns before she realized that they were senshi.
The dubbed version of the characters match both the anime and manga as about as well, as the anime that 4kids manage too get its hands on.
 

Mercsenary

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#42
David Alan Abramczyk said:
Ya know, if Luna ever saw some of the Magical Girl realities out there, she'd probably have an aneurysm.

Take Strike Witches for instance; they're Government-sanctioned Petting Zoo Magical Girls who fly through the air with the greatest of ease, while they fight alien invaders using Machine guns, rocket launchers, and Swords that can slice through Battleship plate armour like a hot knife through butter...
AND IT IS AWESOME.
 

MWkillkenny84

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#43
bissek said:
I was planning for Alicia's revival to be makeshift - Precia will need to infuse her with more energy on a regular basis to keep her alive. I hadn't thought of a Heroic Sacrifice. I had considered 1) Alicia meeting Hotaru, and 2) Alicia learning that she has a little sister - who is twice her age.

For me it is a good idea... and I want for Alicia to survive. At her so called mother expence. Not even Juli Mizhrai at her worst moments (read: first Xenosaga game) has been able to make me HATE so much a maternal character.

bissek said:
Precia doing something nasty to a General? Yes. Any suggestions on which one? Jadeite's doom is already determined.
I suggest Zoisite.
Ah, another thing, who has come to my mind thanks to Tsukino_Kage:

Tsukino_Kage said:
Precia gets points for being more rational than Beryl. Yes, she's nuts, but she's nuts in a different way than Beryl that actually lets her think. Beryl is pretty much a spoiled brat denied her toys. One with dangerously destructive power. If she had let Jadeite or Nephrite continue their operations in canon, they eventually would have gotten enough energy, but Beryl screwed herself and them due to her own impatience. She is her own worst enemy. Think female Hitler.

Using this fatcs, will be Precia be able to make a coup on the Dark Kingdom and replace Beryl as Big Boss, especially after Jadeite's demise?
 

Epsilon

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#44
But wouldn't Beryl be tied to Metallia already? That kinda makes it hard to pull a coup and replace her.
 

holyknight

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#45
Epsilon said:
But wouldn't Beryl be tied to Metallia already? That kinda makes it hard to pull a coup and replace her.
From what i know, that was a desperate, last-ditch measure that Beryl employed to try to kill Sailor Moon at the end of the struggle on the Artic.

Add.....Precia its VERY canny.....although i wouldn't think on her offing the Shittenou, but first checking how they truly are loyal to Beryl and Metallia...and see if she can subvert them or not....

Although something that worries me.......Precia isn't above causing a massive mess, all in order to distract or disable the TSAB of interfering on her plans........what effect would have, to FEED a Jewel Seed to Metallia, then let the entity loose on Crannagan, the capital city of Mid-Childa?
 

Tsukino_kage

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#46
Votes on Zoicite, via electrocution. Alicia, poor Alicia, as much as we feel for you, you're dead, and it doesn't look like you're coming back for long...
 

BF110C4

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#47
Why should she just kill a General, after all we are taking about a good mother who only wants her daughter back, she would not harm another human without a good reason...


... let her dissect Zoicite, in order to understand how does a humanoid like him can store the Life Energy that Youma steal from Earth. That would put Kunzite suspisious and wary of the new arrival.
 

bissek

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#48
I've already determined what the 'something nasty' that will happen is. And it looks like Zoi has been elected to be the second to fall.
 

Megaolix

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#49
Sound like you're thinking way ahead with your fic... Not that I'm complaining of course.
 

AbyssalDaemon

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#50
Epsilon said:
But wouldn't Beryl be tied to Metallia already? That kinda makes it hard to pull a coup and replace her.
Depends on whether or not this is the anime or manga SMverse? Which is something I'm rather wondering about given that both are in somewhat different continues then the other and the characters are fairly different.
 
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