Transformers
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honestly i'm going to have to go with the hater crowds... that was one of the worst pieces of shit i've seen in a long time.
more plot holes then i can to count, despite being 150 mins long it still rushed multiple scenes while stretching others out way to long.
The villains fail on every level of that they could fail. Battle scenes ranged from good to looking like it was a gay robotic orgy.
Honestly i never really understood why people hated Michael Bay so much before... now i really do.
more plot holes then i can to count, despite being 150 mins long it still rushed multiple scenes while stretching others out way to long.
The villains fail on every level of that they could fail. Battle scenes ranged from good to looking like it was a gay robotic orgy.
Honestly i never really understood why people hated Michael Bay so much before... now i really do.
My friend, a writer, could relate to me how impressed he was with the improvements from the first movie and the robot choreography-to-landscape and -human interactions. I was amazed at the level of detail they paid to each element of the fight (gravity, weight and inertia of the fighters, style consistency, action & reaction of opponent and environment, etc.) and the photography of many scenes.
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...Y'know what, screw it. You're gonna act like a bunch of whiners that can't enjoy an action flick for the fight scenes. If you people had any idea what it takes to make even a simple new broadcast, much less a multi-million dollar movie you might bitch less. :huh!: :no: :rant: :flameone: :spank:
I'm Out.
[/Media geek] [/Tech nerd]
...Y'know what, screw it. You're gonna act like a bunch of whiners that can't enjoy an action flick for the fight scenes. If you people had any idea what it takes to make even a simple new broadcast, much less a multi-million dollar movie you might bitch less. :huh!: :no: :rant: :flameone: :spank:
I'm Out.
'This a Review from Transformers Reviews that i find me agreeing with and says most points better verbalised then my.
I don't want to make the movie too bad and only criticise what me personally didn't appeal to.
I don't want to make the movie too bad and only criticise what me personally didn't appeal to.
I liked the movie but I watched it more as a nod to the original series than as a movie worth rating for an award. Fan favorite robots were present, the fight scenes were apparently good enough to burn out some of the machines at Industrial Light and Magic, and R2-D2 was somewhere in the desert scene though I missed him. Anyone that goes to this movie expecting anything other than lots of explosions, a mediocre plot, and so-so humor obviously knows nothing about Michael Bay movies or hasn't seen the previous Transformer film.
I saw the movie at a 9:15 am Imax showing and just barely got seats, had to sit in the front row.
Devastator (The Gestalt made of multiple bots) was decent, though the abundance of Constructicons was dissapointing. The movie made it seem like he was a single robot split into six vehicles instead of being multiple robots merging.
One problem I had with the movie was that all the components of Devastator were reused multiple times as filler Decepticons for a big battle scene. There were generic Decepticons that filled in even more. I went in expecting Skids and Mudflap to be horrible stereotypes given what I'd heard, but I found that they were required to keep balance on the spontaneous 'plot'. Another thing that bugged me was the disappearance of every Autobot once Optimus got his second(Third?) wind. I guess seeing Optimus decimate all opposition immediately afterwards made up for it.
Soundwave was almost a non-entity who spent the movie molesting a sattelite in space. In a nod to his G1 role, he did launch Ravage down to earth and Ravage was pretty awesome. He even had the same voice actor but they didn't give it the same digital effect that he had in the show.
Arcee was really nice looking on screen which made up for the awkwardness of the figures. Like Devastator they made all three bikes seem like a single robot instead of the three robots she was (Chromia, Arcee, and an unnamed purple bike). The toys differentiate between the robots. The movie didn't. It is definitely a shame that they removed the combined form of the three bikes from the film.
Bumblebee lost his voice again for some reason which was probably explained in the comics that took place between the films. A lot of things changed that weren't explained due to the comics. For one, it wasn't explained that it wasn't Blackout who fought Optimus but another helicopter robot. All the new Decepticons went unnamed except for Devastator, The Doctor, and Rampage.
The Fallen himself lacked impact in the movie. He had telekinesis and was unbeatable by anyone but a Prime was something established early. That he spent the majority of the movie in hiding in fear of the last Prime did make it seem fitting to how quick his end was. Though, he was voiced by Tony Todd of Candyman fame, which I found kinda neat.
Megatron got pushed towards lackey status. Granted, he was a high ranking lackey but when around the Fallen he was subservient and annoying.
Overall I found the movie to be an enjoyable action film. I think people were looking for too much out of it when it is simply a so-so Director's translation of a campy 80's cartoon show. Bay is rather formulaic when it comes to his movies, since they all
I saw the movie at a 9:15 am Imax showing and just barely got seats, had to sit in the front row.
Devastator (The Gestalt made of multiple bots) was decent, though the abundance of Constructicons was dissapointing. The movie made it seem like he was a single robot split into six vehicles instead of being multiple robots merging.
One problem I had with the movie was that all the components of Devastator were reused multiple times as filler Decepticons for a big battle scene. There were generic Decepticons that filled in even more. I went in expecting Skids and Mudflap to be horrible stereotypes given what I'd heard, but I found that they were required to keep balance on the spontaneous 'plot'. Another thing that bugged me was the disappearance of every Autobot once Optimus got his second(Third?) wind. I guess seeing Optimus decimate all opposition immediately afterwards made up for it.
Soundwave was almost a non-entity who spent the movie molesting a sattelite in space. In a nod to his G1 role, he did launch Ravage down to earth and Ravage was pretty awesome. He even had the same voice actor but they didn't give it the same digital effect that he had in the show.
Arcee was really nice looking on screen which made up for the awkwardness of the figures. Like Devastator they made all three bikes seem like a single robot instead of the three robots she was (Chromia, Arcee, and an unnamed purple bike). The toys differentiate between the robots. The movie didn't. It is definitely a shame that they removed the combined form of the three bikes from the film.
Bumblebee lost his voice again for some reason which was probably explained in the comics that took place between the films. A lot of things changed that weren't explained due to the comics. For one, it wasn't explained that it wasn't Blackout who fought Optimus but another helicopter robot. All the new Decepticons went unnamed except for Devastator, The Doctor, and Rampage.
The Fallen himself lacked impact in the movie. He had telekinesis and was unbeatable by anyone but a Prime was something established early. That he spent the majority of the movie in hiding in fear of the last Prime did make it seem fitting to how quick his end was. Though, he was voiced by Tony Todd of Candyman fame, which I found kinda neat.
Megatron got pushed towards lackey status. Granted, he was a high ranking lackey but when around the Fallen he was subservient and annoying.
Overall I found the movie to be an enjoyable action film. I think people were looking for too much out of it when it is simply a so-so Director's translation of a campy 80's cartoon show. Bay is rather formulaic when it comes to his movies, since they all
Eh, I liked it well enough. I went in expecting it to be god damn stupid and chock full of explosions. This is what I got, and it was pretty good for what it is. Now to be clear, I never watched the G1 Transformers cartoons, I don't really plan to either (what I know of them basically killed any desire to ever watch them). However, again, it's not plot heavy. Now the action scenes weren't perfect either, for example, it has the shaky camera and rapidly changing viewpoints. I can handle rapid perspective changes in story, but in an action scene? No, it just confuses me and I spend most of my time trying to figure out who is killing who. However, those are popular so they tend to show up a lot, and I already caught flak for complaining about those before.
However, plot wise, it was pretty bad. The first was alright for plot, still pretty crappy, but it didn't have the random "oh, wait, you shouldn't die yet" moments that the second did. Most of the other issues that people had are pretty much cliche issues. It had a shit ton of cliches; it's what I expected, so I wasn't disappointed.
However, plot wise, it was pretty bad. The first was alright for plot, still pretty crappy, but it didn't have the random "oh, wait, you shouldn't die yet" moments that the second did. Most of the other issues that people had are pretty much cliche issues. It had a shit ton of cliches; it's what I expected, so I wasn't disappointed.
Okay, long movie was long. There was a 45 minute stretch there from the point that Optimus got gibbed till he got resurrected that just wouldn't end.
The action was fantastic, and Optimus was Jesus. An incredibly violent Jesus who executes his enemies.
The plot...
Well, the less said about it the better. This is the type of movie where you watch the action and fast forward through everything else. The good thing though, is there was enough action to have nearly an hour and a half of movie watching that way. But that long stretch of dull was long.
The action was fantastic, and Optimus was Jesus. An incredibly violent Jesus who executes his enemies.
The plot...
Well, the less said about it the better. This is the type of movie where you watch the action and fast forward through everything else. The good thing though, is there was enough action to have nearly an hour and a half of movie watching that way. But that long stretch of dull was long.
After having going through this entire thread, there isn't really all that much that I can say that hasn't already been said other than the fact that I loved it.
Some fun facts:
1 - It took 72 days to render a single frame of animation for the second movie.
2 - The total size of the movie by the end was 140 terabytes of uncompressed data, including all of the data it took for the animation aspect.
3 - The most costly Transformer to animate is Optimus Prime.
4 - 14 robots last time, 46 robots this time
5 - If you had all the gold ever mined in the history of man, you could build a little more than half of Devastator.
6 - DevastatorÆs hand is traveling 390 miles per hour when he punches the pyramid.
7 - DevastatorÆs parts stacked tip to tip would be as tall as 58 empire state buildings.
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A comment, that for some strange reason, really pissed me off :hmm:
1 - The camera was so close to the robots during the fight scenes I could only see limbs.
That's because that's exactly how Michael Bay wanted it. He even said it himself that due to the larger budget, he wanted to show extreme close-ups of the Transformers, something he wasn't able to do before.
Some fun facts:
1 - It took 72 days to render a single frame of animation for the second movie.
2 - The total size of the movie by the end was 140 terabytes of uncompressed data, including all of the data it took for the animation aspect.
3 - The most costly Transformer to animate is Optimus Prime.
4 - 14 robots last time, 46 robots this time
5 - If you had all the gold ever mined in the history of man, you could build a little more than half of Devastator.
6 - DevastatorÆs hand is traveling 390 miles per hour when he punches the pyramid.
7 - DevastatorÆs parts stacked tip to tip would be as tall as 58 empire state buildings.
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A comment, that for some strange reason, really pissed me off :hmm:
1 - The camera was so close to the robots during the fight scenes I could only see limbs.
That's because that's exactly how Michael Bay wanted it. He even said it himself that due to the larger budget, he wanted to show extreme close-ups of the Transformers, something he wasn't able to do before.
Long story short, I had fun watching the movie, and that's all that matters to me.
Watching Optimus take on three Decepticons and then the fallen was pretty frakking sweet. Jet Fire being a plane I loved as a kid endeared the character to me. That and I am always fond of the old warrior lending his skills and talents to the younger generation. The Twins were annoying but not enough to kill my enjoyment of the film. Sam's role in the film dosen't bother me, and I actually liked that last shot of him and Optimus standing on the deck of the aircraft carrier staring out over the sea.
All in all, I had more fun with this film than I did the first, and feel it was well worth the cash paid. Bay's got his problems, and there are some things I hope he reigns in for any further installments but I think he and the caste & crew did a fine job creating this summer action flick.
Watching Optimus take on three Decepticons and then the fallen was pretty frakking sweet. Jet Fire being a plane I loved as a kid endeared the character to me. That and I am always fond of the old warrior lending his skills and talents to the younger generation. The Twins were annoying but not enough to kill my enjoyment of the film. Sam's role in the film dosen't bother me, and I actually liked that last shot of him and Optimus standing on the deck of the aircraft carrier staring out over the sea.
All in all, I had more fun with this film than I did the first, and feel it was well worth the cash paid. Bay's got his problems, and there are some things I hope he reigns in for any further installments but I think he and the caste & crew did a fine job creating this summer action flick.
I have to say, that I went into this movie really concerned after having read the reviews. After watching it I'd have to say that while much of what the critics have to say is justified, I think that they're looking way too much into the movie. This is an action flick, and it's focus is action. Yes, the plot had mile wide loop holes, but most action flicks do.
Plot wise this movie isn't as good as the first movie, though the scenes are more fluid than the first movie, the plot as a whole does leave one wanting, but only if you're looking for solid plot.
So no, Revenge of the Fallen isn't as solid a movie as the first, but if you expected something akin to Iron Man or Dark Knight, you really expected too much.
Plot wise this movie isn't as good as the first movie, though the scenes are more fluid than the first movie, the plot as a whole does leave one wanting, but only if you're looking for solid plot.
So no, Revenge of the Fallen isn't as solid a movie as the first, but if you expected something akin to Iron Man or Dark Knight, you really expected too much.
That Guy with Glasses reviews Transformers Revenge of the fallen
Best line "It's a Deciptislut!"
and just for grins
The Nostalgia Chick Reviews "Transformers The Movie" animated
Best line "It's a Deciptislut!"
and just for grins
The Nostalgia Chick Reviews "Transformers The Movie" animated
3/5. For lots of eye candy and fan wanking. If you focus on the plot for too long you get a head ache. Minus points for the Jar Jar Binksbots twins. Minus more points for making Megan Fox poise in blatantly slutty stripper poses. She's hot without you making her look like a whore, Bay.
My brother summed it up best. "Oh well. At least Mike Bay achieved his dream of combining the biggest explosions with slowly bouncing tits."
My brother summed it up best. "Oh well. At least Mike Bay achieved his dream of combining the biggest explosions with slowly bouncing tits."
Ok just watched this last night. Ill say outright that I enjoyed the first movie a LOT more. Sam was even MORE annoying in this. Here were moments that were so horribly groan-worhty that it just had me tempted to go take a ten minute break outside the theatre in the hopes that something interesting would happen or turn on my mp3 player and listen to something interesting.
The fights were good, that black army guy was porbably the best human in the entire movie with better roles and lines than everybody else.
Sam's 'super intelligence from touching the cube' was just retarted, Sam's mother had me itching to reach in to the screen and push her of a cliff.
Megatron's transferal to Lacky status was a bit of a letdown and really badly placed. For instance take when Megatron returned to base. He basically beats the shit out of star-scream, gives the whole line "Even in death there is no order but mine". He has proved he is beyond badass (or at least as close to this movie can come)...and then 3 seconds later he is on his knee's before the fallen.
Ill admit the old deception was fairly amusing, though I didn't like those two transformers that were following Sam/Bumblebee around. That entire 'stay faithful to Makila' subplot just pissed me of beyond words.
However the fights were good and there were one or two truly funny moments so I'm willing to give it a 3.5/5. It was decent but as mentioned a couple placing issues and just subplots that had me nearly groaning aloud kept it from raising higher.
The fights were good, that black army guy was porbably the best human in the entire movie with better roles and lines than everybody else.
Sam's 'super intelligence from touching the cube' was just retarted, Sam's mother had me itching to reach in to the screen and push her of a cliff.
Megatron's transferal to Lacky status was a bit of a letdown and really badly placed. For instance take when Megatron returned to base. He basically beats the shit out of star-scream, gives the whole line "Even in death there is no order but mine". He has proved he is beyond badass (or at least as close to this movie can come)...and then 3 seconds later he is on his knee's before the fallen.
Ill admit the old deception was fairly amusing, though I didn't like those two transformers that were following Sam/Bumblebee around. That entire 'stay faithful to Makila' subplot just pissed me of beyond words.
However the fights were good and there were one or two truly funny moments so I'm willing to give it a 3.5/5. It was decent but as mentioned a couple placing issues and just subplots that had me nearly groaning aloud kept it from raising higher.
Eh I saw it last night with my girlfriend and we both had a pretty good time. There was a little to much toliet humor for my tastes but it was in the acceptable range...barely. Dr Claw and mad cat, err Soundwave and Ravage had some cool points there, but I was disappointed with Soundwaves...nonaction. Jetfire was awesome on 3 fields of play. A crotchety old geezer, a SR-71 Blackbird, and just being Jetfire. The biggest things that made me shake my head were due to the fact that I'm on active duty in the air force and the predator was still not right and the politician said some things that coinside with our current ones that just piss me off. I wasn't expecting an oscar performance, but a movie based on something from my childhood that would be enjoyable, and all in al it was.
I hated the first movie... way too much focus on the human side and I could care less about Sam's girl problems or his parents. The second movie had plenty of that but kept it short though his parents still felt tacked on. I do wish Bay would show who actually survived on both sides. Two of the 'Arcees' got shot and knocked over though the pink one was moving on the ground afterwards.
Fun Fact: The Red 'Rampage' that had Sam's parents was named Skipjack in the end credits. Makes sense when the accompanying figure for 'Rampage' is yellow and has four legs when in robot mode. Once again Bay randomly renames the robots with the in-movie text. In the 2007 movie, the tank Brawl, called himself Devastator despite being correctly named everywhere else.
Fun Fact: The Red 'Rampage' that had Sam's parents was named Skipjack in the end credits. Makes sense when the accompanying figure for 'Rampage' is yellow and has four legs when in robot mode. Once again Bay randomly renames the robots with the in-movie text. In the 2007 movie, the tank Brawl, called himself Devastator despite being correctly named everywhere else.
I'm hearing worrying things about TF2;
That one must turn off one's brain or be lobotomized to enjoy the movie, as it's just shiny and has a semi-coherent plot that doesn't take its own internal continuity seriously and has tons of plotholes that are large enough that Devastator could walk out of them.
That it's not an actual Transformers movie (Transformers movie being a movie about Giant Badass Shapeshifting Robots with occasional human cameos, for reference see the Original Animated Transformers movie), that it's actually a movie about a college boy stuck in the middle of alot exploding stuff and crude juvenile toilet humor with cameos of shapeshifting robots.
TFF, reassure me. That this is a movie that won't make me cry. That this is a movie does not bring shame to the Transformers franchise.
That one must turn off one's brain or be lobotomized to enjoy the movie, as it's just shiny and has a semi-coherent plot that doesn't take its own internal continuity seriously and has tons of plotholes that are large enough that Devastator could walk out of them.
That it's not an actual Transformers movie (Transformers movie being a movie about Giant Badass Shapeshifting Robots with occasional human cameos, for reference see the Original Animated Transformers movie), that it's actually a movie about a college boy stuck in the middle of alot exploding stuff and crude juvenile toilet humor with cameos of shapeshifting robots.
TFF, reassure me. That this is a movie that won't make me cry. That this is a movie does not bring shame to the Transformers franchise.
