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<a href='http://wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/The_Expendables_2' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>The Expendables 2</a>
You know how we heard the rumors of the first Expendables having Chuck Norris? Well this time they are reality, both Bruce and Arnold are back for more than cameos, and we got Jean Claude Van Damme as our big bad. And this will be out August of 2012.
Why yes, I can expect more women to be pregnant by the time the film ends. Why did you ask?
You know how we heard the rumors of the first Expendables having Chuck Norris? Well this time they are reality, both Bruce and Arnold are back for more than cameos, and we got Jean Claude Van Damme as our big bad. And this will be out August of 2012.
Why yes, I can expect more women to be pregnant by the time the film ends. Why did you ask?
Yeah, it was pretty cool watching Steve Austin kick Stallone's ass. It was also instructive to see how limited Northen shaolin wushu is in the hands of someone like Li, against guys who outmass him threefold. Good martial art, but unlike momentum-based styles it's limited by striking power, which is limited partially by height.
Who exactly is the so-called 'talent' of today in this film apart from whatever fresh-faced actress they yanked off some bikini advert to act as the damsel in distress in this latest addition to the male fantasy collection book? It's just Hollywood once again latching onto a tired concept like a vampire of lore so they can suck it dry of all possible avenues of profit until the only inevitability is some shitty 'Epic Movie' parody that is about as funny as Jason Statham's unfathomable ability to still be hired in an industry that pretends it makes films based on talent.
Fuck this movie.
Fuck this movie.
Okay. Two questions.
1) Did you ever like 80s action movies?
2) Did you even bother to watching it? I think not, because it's everything BUT a parody of the genere. The rule is to taste something before spitting it out.
I hate Twilight. With my very core, but I HAVE read the book and seen the movie before making any kind of judgement other than 'I don't like the genre'.
1) Did you ever like 80s action movies?
2) Did you even bother to watching it? I think not, because it's everything BUT a parody of the genere. The rule is to taste something before spitting it out.
I hate Twilight. With my very core, but I HAVE read the book and seen the movie before making any kind of judgement other than 'I don't like the genre'.
Yes I have watched the film (not number 2, obviously) and yes I do like the old school action films. I like Bruce Willis in Die Hard and I can even say I liked Arnie in Commando to a point but does that mean that they should be making action films 30 years on? Well if RED is anything to go by, it can be both successful and well made.
The difference between RED and The Expendables, however, is that the actors don't pretend to be anything but old people. Stallone trying to appear co-ordinated in comparison to Jet Li just makes me cringe. Dolph Lundgren still getting roles that don't go straight to dvd? That shit don't make sense. And Mickey Rourke should have stopped with The Wrestler and left it at that; just because you get a BAFTA for acting like a washed-up reject doesn't mean you aren't anything but a washed-up reject.
Getting all these crap actors together is just pathetic mastabatory fantasy and makes for a shite movie.... (in my opinion).
The difference between RED and The Expendables, however, is that the actors don't pretend to be anything but old people. Stallone trying to appear co-ordinated in comparison to Jet Li just makes me cringe. Dolph Lundgren still getting roles that don't go straight to dvd? That shit don't make sense. And Mickey Rourke should have stopped with The Wrestler and left it at that; just because you get a BAFTA for acting like a washed-up reject doesn't mean you aren't anything but a washed-up reject.
Getting all these crap actors together is just pathetic mastabatory fantasy and makes for a shite movie.... (in my opinion).
Who cares how old you are?
Stallone is 65 and he's still in great shape. Hell, when he did Rocky VI, Tarver legitimately beat the shit out of him in the ring because Stallone insisted that he do it.
It isn't like he's doing a bodybuilding video.
His character in the Expendables is a guy who's really fast with handguns. The actual hand-to-hand stuff he did the first one was just brawling and Steve Austin actually kicked his ass in the first movie when they fought. Stallone did about as well as a ripped old man with hand-to-hand combat training could feasibly do in real life.
Hell, it was more believable than the superhuman bullet time stuff that Bruce Willis was doing in RED.
What's your basis against old people in action movies? Charles Bronson was in his fifties when he started the iconic Death Wish series and he continued to make them until he was in his seventies. The movies aren't all great, or anything, but they're basically the staple of cheesy, bad 80s action films and they mostly star a 60 year old man.
The genre never drew the line at age. Sure, young people were more relatable and, in many cases, could do more, but old guys always had a place in action films.
Stallone is 65 and he's still in great shape. Hell, when he did Rocky VI, Tarver legitimately beat the shit out of him in the ring because Stallone insisted that he do it.
It isn't like he's doing a bodybuilding video.
His character in the Expendables is a guy who's really fast with handguns. The actual hand-to-hand stuff he did the first one was just brawling and Steve Austin actually kicked his ass in the first movie when they fought. Stallone did about as well as a ripped old man with hand-to-hand combat training could feasibly do in real life.
Hell, it was more believable than the superhuman bullet time stuff that Bruce Willis was doing in RED.
What's your basis against old people in action movies? Charles Bronson was in his fifties when he started the iconic Death Wish series and he continued to make them until he was in his seventies. The movies aren't all great, or anything, but they're basically the staple of cheesy, bad 80s action films and they mostly star a 60 year old man.
The genre never drew the line at age. Sure, young people were more relatable and, in many cases, could do more, but old guys always had a place in action films.
I'm pretty sure Red was also based on a comic. The story was basically already established.
Also, Red was more like "Retired people can still kick butt". It was comedic action. Its getting a sequel.
Expendables was "Lets go make an 80s action movie using a bunch of action 'stars' from the 80s and today" It was manly 80's action. Its getting a sequel
The difference? While neither are to be taken seriously, you go to see Expendables for people dying. You go to see Red for the characters.
Also, Red was more like "Retired people can still kick butt". It was comedic action. Its getting a sequel.
Expendables was "Lets go make an 80s action movie using a bunch of action 'stars' from the 80s and today" It was manly 80's action. Its getting a sequel
The difference? While neither are to be taken seriously, you go to see Expendables for people dying. You go to see Red for the characters.
The truth is I'm just butthurt that Steven Seagal isn't involved. 
Seriously though, my problem isn't with old actors but old actors who were pretty bad in their 'prime' being given new roles in a blockbuster like they're medals to pin on a beaten corpse. As I've said, I like old school action films. I like watching Van Damme beating the shit out of people in Bloodsport. I like Arnie's cornie one-liners in Total Recall. And for some weird reason I even like Dolph Lundgren in Red Scorpion.
You know what the difference between those films and The Expendables is? There's only one fucking action hero in it. It might be lame plot and pyrotechnics but at least it isn't essentially a string of cameo performances strung along on a weak storyline and mashed together with some explosions and heavy machine guns.
To revise that I'll say that I don't think that the action genre should have to limit itself to a single protagonist or recognisable action figure. Films like Demolition Man work because it's two action figures playing against each other, similar to the likes of Universal Soldier or perhaps The One. And similarly the likes of Ronin, The Losers and countless war films prove that groups of recognisable actors can make action films where team work is a central theme.
What I dislike about The Expendables is the strange need to shove almost every available and recognisable action star into the film purely because it'll bring yet another possible wave of audience members due to that particular star's pull. Chuck Norris is the main example of this in the second film; I can't fathom why they dragged that hairy fossil from his semi-retirement of TV films and internet memes except as a money pull and that just fucking irritates me.
Am I crazy over nothing? Possibly. Will I end up going to watch the film anyway if only to moan about the mashed in cliches? Probably.
Seriously though, my problem isn't with old actors but old actors who were pretty bad in their 'prime' being given new roles in a blockbuster like they're medals to pin on a beaten corpse. As I've said, I like old school action films. I like watching Van Damme beating the shit out of people in Bloodsport. I like Arnie's cornie one-liners in Total Recall. And for some weird reason I even like Dolph Lundgren in Red Scorpion.
You know what the difference between those films and The Expendables is? There's only one fucking action hero in it. It might be lame plot and pyrotechnics but at least it isn't essentially a string of cameo performances strung along on a weak storyline and mashed together with some explosions and heavy machine guns.
To revise that I'll say that I don't think that the action genre should have to limit itself to a single protagonist or recognisable action figure. Films like Demolition Man work because it's two action figures playing against each other, similar to the likes of Universal Soldier or perhaps The One. And similarly the likes of Ronin, The Losers and countless war films prove that groups of recognisable actors can make action films where team work is a central theme.
What I dislike about The Expendables is the strange need to shove almost every available and recognisable action star into the film purely because it'll bring yet another possible wave of audience members due to that particular star's pull. Chuck Norris is the main example of this in the second film; I can't fathom why they dragged that hairy fossil from his semi-retirement of TV films and internet memes except as a money pull and that just fucking irritates me.
Am I crazy over nothing? Possibly. Will I end up going to watch the film anyway if only to moan about the mashed in cliches? Probably.
GiantMonkeyMan said:
The truth is I'm just butthurt that Steven Seagal isn't involved.
Seriously though, my problem isn't with old actors but old actors who were pretty bad in their 'prime' being given new roles in a blockbuster like they're medals to pin on a beaten corpse. As I've said, I like old school action films. I like watching Van Damme beating the shit out of people in Bloodsport. I like Arnie's cornie one-liners in Total Recall. And for some weird reason I even like Dolph Lundgren in Red Scorpion.
You know what the difference between those films and The Expendables is? There's only one fucking action hero in it. It might be lame plot and pyrotechnics but at least it isn't essentially a string of cameo performances strung along on a weak storyline and mashed together with some explosions and heavy machine guns.
To revise that I'll say that I don't think that the action genre should have to limit itself to a single protagonist or recognisable action figure. Films like Demolition Man work because it's two action figures playing against each other, similar to the likes of Universal Soldier or perhaps The One. And similarly the likes of Ronin, The Losers and countless war films prove that groups of recognisable actors can make action films where team work is a central theme.
What I dislike about The Expendables is the strange need to shove almost every available and recognisable action star into the film purely because it'll bring yet another possible wave of audience members due to that particular star's pull. Chuck Norris is the main example of this in the second film; I can't fathom why they dragged that hairy fossil from his semi-retirement of TV films and internet memes except as a money pull and that just fucking irritates me.
Am I crazy over nothing? Possibly. Will I end up going to watch the film anyway if only to moan about the mashed in cliches? Probably.
Seriously though, my problem isn't with old actors but old actors who were pretty bad in their 'prime' being given new roles in a blockbuster like they're medals to pin on a beaten corpse. As I've said, I like old school action films. I like watching Van Damme beating the shit out of people in Bloodsport. I like Arnie's cornie one-liners in Total Recall. And for some weird reason I even like Dolph Lundgren in Red Scorpion.
You know what the difference between those films and The Expendables is? There's only one fucking action hero in it. It might be lame plot and pyrotechnics but at least it isn't essentially a string of cameo performances strung along on a weak storyline and mashed together with some explosions and heavy machine guns.
To revise that I'll say that I don't think that the action genre should have to limit itself to a single protagonist or recognisable action figure. Films like Demolition Man work because it's two action figures playing against each other, similar to the likes of Universal Soldier or perhaps The One. And similarly the likes of Ronin, The Losers and countless war films prove that groups of recognisable actors can make action films where team work is a central theme.
What I dislike about The Expendables is the strange need to shove almost every available and recognisable action star into the film purely because it'll bring yet another possible wave of audience members due to that particular star's pull. Chuck Norris is the main example of this in the second film; I can't fathom why they dragged that hairy fossil from his semi-retirement of TV films and internet memes except as a money pull and that just fucking irritates me.
Am I crazy over nothing? Possibly. Will I end up going to watch the film anyway if only to moan about the mashed in cliches? Probably.
Bill Felix said:
GiantMonkeyMan said:
The truth is I'm just butthurt that Steven Seagal isn't involved.
Seriously though, my problem isn't with old actors but old actors who were pretty bad in their 'prime' being given new roles in a blockbuster like they're medals to pin on a beaten corpse. As I've said, I like old school action films. I like watching Van Damme beating the shit out of people in Bloodsport. I like Arnie's cornie one-liners in Total Recall. And for some weird reason I even like Dolph Lundgren in Red Scorpion.
You know what the difference between those films and The Expendables is? There's only one fucking action hero in it. It might be lame plot and pyrotechnics but at least it isn't essentially a string of cameo performances strung along on a weak storyline and mashed together with some explosions and heavy machine guns.
To revise that I'll say that I don't think that the action genre should have to limit itself to a single protagonist or recognisable action figure. Films like Demolition Man work because it's two action figures playing against each other, similar to the likes of Universal Soldier or perhaps The One. And similarly the likes of Ronin, The Losers and countless war films prove that groups of recognisable actors can make action films where team work is a central theme.
What I dislike about The Expendables is the strange need to shove almost every available and recognisable action star into the film purely because it'll bring yet another possible wave of audience members due to that particular star's pull. Chuck Norris is the main example of this in the second film; I can't fathom why they dragged that hairy fossil from his semi-retirement of TV films and internet memes except as a money pull and that just fucking irritates me.
Am I crazy over nothing? Possibly. Will I end up going to watch the film anyway if only to moan about the mashed in cliches? Probably.
Seriously though, my problem isn't with old actors but old actors who were pretty bad in their 'prime' being given new roles in a blockbuster like they're medals to pin on a beaten corpse. As I've said, I like old school action films. I like watching Van Damme beating the shit out of people in Bloodsport. I like Arnie's cornie one-liners in Total Recall. And for some weird reason I even like Dolph Lundgren in Red Scorpion.
You know what the difference between those films and The Expendables is? There's only one fucking action hero in it. It might be lame plot and pyrotechnics but at least it isn't essentially a string of cameo performances strung along on a weak storyline and mashed together with some explosions and heavy machine guns.
To revise that I'll say that I don't think that the action genre should have to limit itself to a single protagonist or recognisable action figure. Films like Demolition Man work because it's two action figures playing against each other, similar to the likes of Universal Soldier or perhaps The One. And similarly the likes of Ronin, The Losers and countless war films prove that groups of recognisable actors can make action films where team work is a central theme.
What I dislike about The Expendables is the strange need to shove almost every available and recognisable action star into the film purely because it'll bring yet another possible wave of audience members due to that particular star's pull. Chuck Norris is the main example of this in the second film; I can't fathom why they dragged that hairy fossil from his semi-retirement of TV films and internet memes except as a money pull and that just fucking irritates me.
Am I crazy over nothing? Possibly. Will I end up going to watch the film anyway if only to moan about the mashed in cliches? Probably.
Enjoyment can come on several different levels... The Expendables might be crap in my eyes but that just makes it all the more fun to dissect and pull apart.
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