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Since we're getting into the way back machine I just saw Shoot-Em Up recently. I have to say that movie was absolutely awesome. The plot was ridiculous and completely out the window but the action scenes were so well done. By the end of the movie I think the writers just started going to town with locales for shoot outs (a shoot out in mid-air!?).
The other movie I saw was Collateral. OutSTANDING! Really makes you wish Tom Cruise wasn't such a wackjob. Jamie Foxx was very good as the cab driver and the scene in the nightclub was one that I watched over and over again. An excellent piece of work and one of the few movies where I felt bad for the bad guy (trying hard not to give away spoilers).
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The other movie I saw was Collateral. OutSTANDING! Really makes you wish Tom Cruise wasn't such a wackjob. Jamie Foxx was very good as the cab driver and the scene in the nightclub was one that I watched over and over again. An excellent piece of work and one of the few movies where I felt bad for the bad guy (trying hard not to give away spoilers).
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Are YOU serious? <_< Seriously, this reminds me of the people that say cartoons are for kids.
Batman comic books are, in general, a lot more serious and dark. Sure, you got 'campy crap' like the 60s Batman TV series, and that recent crap Batman Forever and Batman and Robin. But if you actually read the comic books, you'll see that they are NOT lighthearted 'kid friendly' affair (granted, there are exceptions given that it all depends on who wrote/colored it). That being said, read Frank Miller's take on the Dark Knight himself. There is a reason why he is called the 'Dark Knight'.
Oh, and I haven't seen the movie yet.
Will do so either tomorrow (uh... technically today given that it is past midnight here. In fact, it's 4 am) or Monday (which would 'really be tomorrow').
Batman comic books are, in general, a lot more serious and dark. Sure, you got 'campy crap' like the 60s Batman TV series, and that recent crap Batman Forever and Batman and Robin. But if you actually read the comic books, you'll see that they are NOT lighthearted 'kid friendly' affair (granted, there are exceptions given that it all depends on who wrote/colored it). That being said, read Frank Miller's take on the Dark Knight himself. There is a reason why he is called the 'Dark Knight'.
Oh, and I haven't seen the movie yet.
Will do so either tomorrow (uh... technically today given that it is past midnight here. In fact, it's 4 am) or Monday (which would 'really be tomorrow'). W...what?
Just, just go now.
Only two words can be said for that movie. FUCKING EPIC
I think that is going to be the best movie out this year, and it was comic book movie!
Normally they aren't all that great. Iron man came really close, but this was on a whole different level. Also, what a way for Heath Ledger to go. I think Jack Nicholson is going to be killing himself soon because he realized "Damn, that guy pwned."
At this point, I'm kind of hopping they don't make another batman movie, leave it at this on such a high, because they basically used all the good villains in this one; Joker and Two Face. All the other villains were kind of lame, Mr. Freeze, Penguin, Riddler, Scarecrow (comic book one, not original batman movie one, but that's for another time), Cat-woman, Poison Ivy, na. Just leave it as is.
In short, Dark Night was Epic, Heath killed in a that movie hard (metaphorically and physically XD) and that's it.
I'll leave ya with what Heath will now be remembered as instead of a gay cowboy:
Just, just go now.
Only two words can be said for that movie. FUCKING EPIC
I think that is going to be the best movie out this year, and it was comic book movie!
Normally they aren't all that great. Iron man came really close, but this was on a whole different level. Also, what a way for Heath Ledger to go. I think Jack Nicholson is going to be killing himself soon because he realized "Damn, that guy pwned."
At this point, I'm kind of hopping they don't make another batman movie, leave it at this on such a high, because they basically used all the good villains in this one; Joker and Two Face. All the other villains were kind of lame, Mr. Freeze, Penguin, Riddler, Scarecrow (comic book one, not original batman movie one, but that's for another time), Cat-woman, Poison Ivy, na. Just leave it as is.
In short, Dark Night was Epic, Heath killed in a that movie hard (metaphorically and physically XD) and that's it.
I'll leave ya with what Heath will now be remembered as instead of a gay cowboy:
I went to my local theater to see this on, oh Saturday evening. The 7:15 EST showing had a line the snaked its way around the building. Suffice to say, I waited in line and I was not disappointed. Not only did Heath Ledger blow my mind, I was also entirely happy that we had Harvey Dent lose half his face and give us the best looking, in terms of special effects, Two-Face I could think of.
I just saw Dark Knight. Joker was so awesome. "I'm going to show you a magic trick."
But his actions were just classic. All of Heath Ledger's scenes at the hospital were great.
The end was sort of meh to me though. Two-Face got taken down way too quickly in my opinion. It felt like the writers were tired at the end and just wanted to get the film over with.
Edit: Oh yes, I forgot about this. I'm also drooling with anticipation upon seeing the Watchmen trailer. Go see it. NOW.
But his actions were just classic. All of Heath Ledger's scenes at the hospital were great.
The end was sort of meh to me though. Two-Face got taken down way too quickly in my opinion. It felt like the writers were tired at the end and just wanted to get the film over with.
Edit: Oh yes, I forgot about this. I'm also drooling with anticipation upon seeing the Watchmen trailer. Go see it. NOW.
Political message? What Political Message? :hmm:
I watched The Dark Knight. Awesome. Heath Ledger's portrayal of him was, IMO, one of the best, if not THE best portrayal of the Joker. It's sad that we will never get to see him again play the part.
Though back to the Political Message, yes, you can, if you really want to try to, get a political message out of it. Surveillance evil and wrong? We should trust government even when it is corrupt? And if you want to further stretch it, some people you can't talk to or negotiate with, and so, you must fight them?
But these messages IMO, did not define the movie (like overtly political movies like Stop-Loss). I just went in to have a good time. Any political message the movie 'supposed' to have, I didn't see it. Heck, you can argue it to be both sides if you want. But that's not why I watch movies. I don't watch to be lectured to, I don't watch to find hidden political messages intended or unintended. I watch to have a good time. And I got that good time watching Dark Knight.
And I have to agree with Curious Stranger. Though I do not want to spoil the movie. There are a few things I felt should have been changed since, well, besides not being true to the comics (not a purist. But do like things to be close to source material), could have been done better. But while it isn't a 'perfect' movie, doesn't mean it is a bad one. Far from it even I would say.
I watched The Dark Knight. Awesome. Heath Ledger's portrayal of him was, IMO, one of the best, if not THE best portrayal of the Joker. It's sad that we will never get to see him again play the part.
Though back to the Political Message, yes, you can, if you really want to try to, get a political message out of it. Surveillance evil and wrong? We should trust government even when it is corrupt? And if you want to further stretch it, some people you can't talk to or negotiate with, and so, you must fight them?
But these messages IMO, did not define the movie (like overtly political movies like Stop-Loss). I just went in to have a good time. Any political message the movie 'supposed' to have, I didn't see it. Heck, you can argue it to be both sides if you want. But that's not why I watch movies. I don't watch to be lectured to, I don't watch to find hidden political messages intended or unintended. I watch to have a good time. And I got that good time watching Dark Knight.
And I have to agree with Curious Stranger. Though I do not want to spoil the movie. There are a few things I felt should have been changed since, well, besides not being true to the comics (not a purist. But do like things to be close to source material), could have been done better. But while it isn't a 'perfect' movie, doesn't mean it is a bad one. Far from it even I would say.
I watch movies to have a good time as well, doesn't stop me from noticing things that irritate me.
1. The poster for the movie has a building that has an effect which looks like it's on fire, ref to twin towers
2. I only made that connection the second the mayor uttered the word terrorist.
Once those two points popped up into my head Batman started to take on the roles of the mercenary companies the US employs in the war. People without jurisdictions that can get things done that the government/police cannot do. Nolan even compares Ra's from the previous movie to Osama.
Naturally this could just be my overactive brain creating connections that aren't there but it did reduce my enjoyment factor the second terrorist was uttered.
1. The poster for the movie has a building that has an effect which looks like it's on fire, ref to twin towers
2. I only made that connection the second the mayor uttered the word terrorist.
Once those two points popped up into my head Batman started to take on the roles of the mercenary companies the US employs in the war. People without jurisdictions that can get things done that the government/police cannot do. Nolan even compares Ra's from the previous movie to Osama.
Naturally this could just be my overactive brain creating connections that aren't there but it did reduce my enjoyment factor the second terrorist was uttered.
Oh I can almost pick out political messages if I want in most movies. The one I used, surveillance, that could definitely be said to be 'political' debate right there.
Thing is, I tend to ignore what the actor/actress/director says whenever possible. Especially if, take it on face value, there isn't some 'right/left' political BS going on. Yeah, he used terrorist to describe the Joker. But, isn't that what the Joker is in the movie? He isn't simply a 'criminal mastermind', but he truly is turning Gotham City into a horrific nightmare. Just what the original meaning of a terrorist (without the political BS behind that word) is.
Heck, Wall-E, from the looks of the trailer (have yet to see the movie), I could get a bigger political message out of that movie than The Dark Knight. I mean, deserted planet because of over consumerism? Harming the environment? Allowing some 'greedy' corporation to make you fat and lazy? This could all be taken as political.
And yet, if/when I see this movie, I'm not going to go in it thinking "Damn. Political message. Fark this!" I'm going to see the movie on its own merit. And so far, Pixar hasn't disappointed me once, and I doubt Wall-E will.
Don't get me wrong, there are times when I go, "Shit. Why the Hell are they shoving politics down my throat?" The Star Wars new 'trilogy' movie, ignoring the JarJarocolypse, had one line at the end of the third one that simply made my cringe. It was apparently George Lucas way of being anti-Bush/anti-War that, was just too damn obvious and actually detracted me from enjoying the 'subpar' movie. These are times I go 'dude, leave your politics at home'.
Otherwise, even if a movie is 'left leaning' or 'right leaning', I try and take it as is. And it's probably why overtly political movies are doing badly. Because it doesn't matter the message, people don't want to be lectured.
Thing is, I tend to ignore what the actor/actress/director says whenever possible. Especially if, take it on face value, there isn't some 'right/left' political BS going on. Yeah, he used terrorist to describe the Joker. But, isn't that what the Joker is in the movie? He isn't simply a 'criminal mastermind', but he truly is turning Gotham City into a horrific nightmare. Just what the original meaning of a terrorist (without the political BS behind that word) is.
Heck, Wall-E, from the looks of the trailer (have yet to see the movie), I could get a bigger political message out of that movie than The Dark Knight. I mean, deserted planet because of over consumerism? Harming the environment? Allowing some 'greedy' corporation to make you fat and lazy? This could all be taken as political.
And yet, if/when I see this movie, I'm not going to go in it thinking "Damn. Political message. Fark this!" I'm going to see the movie on its own merit. And so far, Pixar hasn't disappointed me once, and I doubt Wall-E will.
Don't get me wrong, there are times when I go, "Shit. Why the Hell are they shoving politics down my throat?" The Star Wars new 'trilogy' movie, ignoring the JarJarocolypse, had one line at the end of the third one that simply made my cringe. It was apparently George Lucas way of being anti-Bush/anti-War that, was just too damn obvious and actually detracted me from enjoying the 'subpar' movie. These are times I go 'dude, leave your politics at home'.
Otherwise, even if a movie is 'left leaning' or 'right leaning', I try and take it as is. And it's probably why overtly political movies are doing badly. Because it doesn't matter the message, people don't want to be lectured.
He could be described as a terrorist but in truth he is more accurately said to be an anarchist, all he wants is disorder, for people to act without regard for 'morals'. A terrorist is too broad a term to describe him, so why did they use it? Either because it's to tie it in with current events or it's their political agenda.
I don't go into movies to pick them apart either, but it doesn't stop me from recognizing things that are obvious. And I don't have the particular talent to ignore certain aspects of a movie I don't like, particularly if it deals with politics.
In this case, it's even worse that the messages are subtle. The impressionable people might go out thinking. "Huh, as long as the gov/police are trying to help me I don't care what particular method they use." The small pieces of evidence combined make it highly probable that it was Nolan's intention to create such a message, at least in my head.
I don't go into movies to pick them apart either, but it doesn't stop me from recognizing things that are obvious. And I don't have the particular talent to ignore certain aspects of a movie I don't like, particularly if it deals with politics.
In this case, it's even worse that the messages are subtle. The impressionable people might go out thinking. "Huh, as long as the gov/police are trying to help me I don't care what particular method they use." The small pieces of evidence combined make it highly probable that it was Nolan's intention to create such a message, at least in my head.
Terrorist- One who's intention is to cause terror (usually on a grand scale) or to use terror as a weapon.
The Joker is an anarchist who is trying to use terror to cause others to become like him. This means that by the none political definition of the word terrorist (see above) he is most definately a terrorist.
I think you need to cut down on the paranoia.
The Joker is an anarchist who is trying to use terror to cause others to become like him. This means that by the none political definition of the word terrorist (see above) he is most definately a terrorist.
I think you need to cut down on the paranoia.