What do you think of the Dark Icon Writers?

[SouthSideSlider]

i'll agree there is a great writer in the Inital D Section who was almost banned because he wrote one of his stories in a script format and didn't change it over.
i agree some stories need flaming but they are rare. most need alot of help and i mean ALOT of help.

what i have found is realy th4e only stories in the naruto section are M rated. i mean if your looking for a good story line in a naruto story look under M rating and nonyaoi.

if you have seen inital D and want a good read go on FF.net and in the inital D section there is a series of 5 stories under the name Programmed Lives. they are some of the best fanfics i have ever read.

 

[SimmyC]

Problem with the Script Format stories is... they ARE against FFN's rules. He could be a great story teller and all but, if he left it up as script format, than, at the very least, that story should be taken down. Not sure he should be banned for it...

Which leads to this point. Problem of course is, while they went after that author, FFN IGNORES a lot of authors that not only writes in script format, but continue to do so over and over again.

And I might agree with you that there are stories that need flaming... but the rare part, isn't so rare anymore (especially given the craphole that FFN has fallen into). Naruto section... :no: Just too much garbage to wade through now. Now, if there was a yaoi filter, could improve things a bit. But of course, FFN doesn't have said filter.

Oh, and a grammatical issue. It's a lot. Not alot. Common error yes, but an error nonetheless. :unsure!:

 

[Lord Raa]

Oh, and a grammatical issue. It's a lot. Not alot. Common error yes, but an error nonetheless. :unsure!:

Yes, you are quite correct, Simmy.

Here's something to help people remember: You wouldn't write "alittle," so don't write "alot"

 

[GenocideHeart]

I make that mistake all the time, simply because my keyboard's space key stinks. Let it slip. Don't be grammar Nazi over that one. It's often a matter of poor quality of the keyboard.

 

[SimmyC]

Well normally I'm not a grammar Nazi. Especially since, you're talking to someone who stinks at it.

But the keyboard issue, that might be you GH. But most people that write alot instead of a lot, typically do it on purpose. After all, I'm talking from experience. :wacko:

 

[VoidHawk]

I am the LAST to say anything about grammar...I just cannot, due my own mistakes (and I know they are A LOT...)

Knowing my limitations I try hard to write a concise, coherent and enjoyable plot, pouring my love for the characters and the story! Other than that I relly on my proofreaders (Thanks a lot Pocky Chan, Knightwolf, Havenoname and TwilightZekk for your work! I owe you all a lot!)

Over FFNet rules, I think this stance of taking the whole story down is way, way too harsh. And very unfair both to writers and readers!

Sometimes a little advise would be effective. I say this because I was victim of their lack of sense once, because due my introductory author's notes, they took the WHOLE of my story down, along with not 100, but 200 reviews and alerts with it.

They never answered my question over it, and to this date I am not even sure if that was the case. But according to Dimitry Plabato that was the reason.

Well, going overboard for such, when thousands of other stories have even worse breach of rules is something I do not understand.

Now, over Yaoi/Yuri stuff, I am not fan of those, and would not read such material (I saw some of those on Love Hina section...and steered away from them) but it seems to be gaining space, maybe because it is enraging people, and causing commotion is something the authors of those want.

And as things go, they do have a reader's base, or such trend will vanish in time.

Naruto...I do not even like the anime, so cannot say much over fanfics from that section.

And one thing over Yaoi...I do have a Vandread fanfic, and although some would think of it as Yaoi, it is not. Just read the chapter to understand before even saying I write Yaoi.

Just pointing out before anyone says: "Look, he does write Yaoi"

Humm, and also do not say I am prejudiced or such. I just dislike stories with it. I would never go Jihad against it. If people like, people like. I will just keep away of reading or writing such. And will not review as well.

Alas, if good plot/stories with such content are out, good for the fans of the genre. Let them enjoy ^_^

 

[GenocideHeart]

Um... in Vandread's case, I do not mind, because Yaoi is CANON in it.

It's 'buttseckz for the sake of buttseckz' that I hate. Unless it's used for comical purposes.

 

[SimmyC]

Yaoi in of itself isn't 'bad' (in that, if they wanted yaoi, they could write it to their hearts content). Problem with FFN is the fact that, yaoi or not, if 'good' stories are taken down for disobeying one of their rules, so should these fics. They are not.

And hence, why there is so much 'haet' here, particularly for FFN. Yaoi fics in particular if, besides personal preference, seemed to be immune to the rules at FFN.

[edit]And like GH said, in the case of Vandread, Yaoi is canon. Heck, so is Yuri.

You can even add Gravitation, but I know it's canon in that one, and I avoid that section simply on principle.

 

[VoidHawk]

Um... in Vandread's case, I do not mind, because Yaoi is CANON in it.

It's 'buttseckz for the sake of buttseckz' that I hate. Unless it's used for comical purposes.

Indeed. Canon.

That made me delay watching it for a long time...and I LOVE that anime now.

Anyway, as far as it goes, my fanfic is not Yaoi, as when the pairing comes forth, the circunstances depicted in the first chapter make it clear it will not be Yaoi, unless you think about MIND or the likes...

Humm, yeah, writing Yaoi or Yuri (I dislike Yuri as well) without a reason or a plot is shameful, and made with the sole intention of irritating readers.

 

[Bluezone777]

Anyone who has ever dealt with ff.net thinks they suck. I have yet to find a person who thinks ff.net rocks.

they survive due to the traffic they get and the fact that readers review your work and that's it. nothing else is keeping people there.

I bet if there was an alternative to ff.net that had the same amount of traffic then ff.net woudl cease to exist as they do today.

 

[VoidHawk]

Anyone who has ever dealt with ff.net thinks they suck. I have yet to find a person who thinks ff.net rocks.

they survive due to the traffic they get and the fact that readers review your work and that's it. nothing? else is keeping people there.

I bet if there was an alternative to ff.net that had the same amount of traffic then ff.net woudl cease to exist as they do today.

On that you can be absolutely sure BZ!

I am there due its loads of readers, and the feedback they have (where else would I get over 25600 hits :huh: ) but their administration and Modus Operandi is very strange to say the least.

They still have a wide reader's base though...and that is something hard to ignore.

(ACK and a lousy alert system...just loged into my account and there are 2 more reviews that I was unnaware of :mellow: )

Oh, thanks SimmyC. Another anime to avoid, like Kannaduki no Miko

 

[Hawk]

Found one here.

I might not agree with their rules, nor all of their policies and I certainly have a few issues with the quality of the content from time to time.

But it is free and worked more or less flawlessly for years. It's only in the last year or so that it's started glitching from time to time.

So while I'll certainly admit to the fact that there are problems, I still think it's a great place.

 

[VoidHawk]

Found one here.

I might not agree with their rules, nor all of their policies and I certainly have a few issues with the quality of the content from time to time.

But it is free and worked more or less flawlessly for years. It's only in the last year or so that it's started glitching from time to time.

So while I'll certainly admit to the fact that there are problems, I still think it's a great place.

Well :mellow:


There is a First for everything, ne ...

(Humm, thinking better about it...a First for almost everything, if you get my point )


Yet, as I mentioned before, if you take out its readers base...well.

Can't complain much aside that high handed action against myself.

Soon I will be trying FictionPress. Lets see how it works...

And hello Hawk !!! ^_^

 

[PCHeintz72]

Oh, thanks SimmyC. Another anime to avoid, like Kannaduki no Mikoá

Heh. I liked that series, except the ending, which I thought crap, and the robot aspect, which I thought unneeded.


By the way, glad to see you here.

I've been reading your story of 'Moving Forward' since it was introduced the first time on FanFiction.NET, and back when there was the comment wars with Little Wooden Boy/Little Tart.

As for your grammer/spelling. Well, whenever I read something with mistakes like that, I normally first take into account whether English is the first language of the author. While improvment is needed, it is quite readable if one looks past them. I read it mainly for the plot and character interaction.

Greatly enjoyed chapter 9, especially the latter 1/2, and with great anticipation I look forward to chapter 10.

I have to say, the reactions I expect to be quite memorable once they find out their last names. Especially telling will be the Aoyama reactions to his emotions upon hearing it, and their reactions to learn his state was created at least partially by their sister. All things considered, what with their views on honor, it would not go well for Motoko.

 

[SimmyC]

Well most of us, even those that really hate FFN, still go there. After all, Hawk is right in that, one, it is free. And two, for most of us, it has worked just fine and dandy. Some of the rules I think are stupid (and FFN has an issue with ENFORCING said rules), but in terms of putting stories that get read and reviewed, it has been just fine.

 

[VoidHawk]

Oh, thanks SimmyC. Another anime to avoid, like Kannaduki no Mikoá

Heh. I liked that series, except the ending, which I thought crap, and the robot aspect, which I thought unneeded.


By the way, glad to see you here.

I've been reading your story of 'Moving Forward' since it was introduced the first time on FanFiction.NET, and back when there was the comment wars with Little Wooden Boy/Little Tart.

As for your grammer/spelling. Well, whenever I read something with mistakes like that, I normally first take into account whether English is the first language of the author. While improvment is needed, it is quite readable if one looks past them. I read it mainly for the plot and character interaction.

Greatly enjoyed chapter 9, especially the latter 1/2, and with great anticipation I look forward to chapter 10.

I have to say, the reactions I expect to be quite memorable once they find out their last names. Especially telling will be the Aoyama reactions to his emotions upon hearing it, and their reactions to learn his state was created at least partially by their sister. All things considered, what with their views on honor, it would not go well for Motoko.

Hello ^_^

Glad to hear you are enjoying it. I write it with passion and I also try to improve my skills....it is my first attempt at writing and that shows, but I do try to deliver the best possible.

Indeed being a brazilian does add an extra challenge...language. I am trying.

Eh, I will not spoil, but there is a lot to happen...and it is still the First Stage.

As for reactions, well. After chapter 8 you all know Tsuruko is not a woman to mess with, or else a hospital is the least you can expect.

And remember...Kanako is out there as well...and she loves her little brother a lot ^_^

...

Kannaduki no Miko...I was at 5% to finish downloading it when I was told it is a Yuri anime...and I just deleted it, even though I really liked the art in it, the little I saw. Also the OST (I just LOVE I've/KOTOKO) but I am not really fond of Yuri...and if the pair at the end is that, I am out

Little Tart - That is an example of what NOT TO DO as an author. His lack of respect for readers was appaling. And the worst, his stories were soo GOOD! One of his Tsuruko/Kei ones was the spark that made me love Tsuruko, and also drove me to start my own version of a Love Hina story, with Tsuruko as the woman for Keitaro.

His actions were obnoxious, and he was pretty much snobbish on those comments back then...and worst, he even said he would finish the stories after those exchange of niceties, and then he started reposting them in a very crappy way, even distorting the mentioned Tsuruko fanfic...

Man, that is the only case I really lost my temper. And I do not regret it, as I feel any author has a responsability to his/her readers. If it is something ot of our control, all right. But simply erasing your account and making stories go to oblivion, and then come back with a new nickname and on a new fandom is plain wrong.

If you want to change, just write a fast paced/crappy end to the current stories, but FINISH THEM! His attitude was obnoxious and irresponsible, even writing so good fanfics.

I heard he was finally banned or just deleted his account and vanish...not sure as I never heard of him again.

Oh, and if you like science fiction, a little add here: I am about to start posting my Original: ANTITHESIS. I already am positing drawings from the story on bz's Forum, alongside bios. And soon I will post it there and in FictionPress. It is fully my concept, and will have a lot of drama on it ^_^ Let's see how I will fare with it ^_^


*stares up, down and sideways* At any moment an Avenging Mod will come hard on me ne...off topic right....gommen ne

 

[Hawk]

*stares up, down and sideways* At any moment an Avenging Mod will come hard on me ne...off topic right....gommen ne

Heh, if I was going to start cracking down on that here, I'd be so busy that I wouldn't have *any* time whatsoever for writing shit.

 

[TheEcchiSessha]

*stares up, down and sideways*á At any moment an Avenging Mod will come hard on me ne...off topic right....gommen ne [/b][/color]

Sorry.. but I must giggle and laugh at this statement. :snigger:

A mod object to an off-topic post? Here at TFF, a thread is not a good thread unless it gets "thread-jacked" at LEAST once or twice.

All they(read: mods) ask is you post in the correct section and being in the General area you're not really breaking any rules with this post. Nice to see you around here, VoidHawk.

~The Ecchi Sessha

 

[VoidHawk]

Heh!

Thanks minna san!

I really do not wish to create problems, but I do like to say my mind on any subject ^_^

And it is nice to be here as well :lol:

 

[PCHeintz72]

I heard he was finally banned or just deleted his account and vanish...not sure as I never heard of him again.

Just for information purposes, as I have a good memory and tracked the issues going on around that author.

Little Tart had taken most of his Love Hina down, but then fans requested he put them back up, particularly 'Comfort' (The Tsuruko one) and one other (can't remember it offhand, not one I have). However, grudgingly he did, but messed 'Comfort' up in that a started chapter 3 snippet was posted as chapter 1, messing up the story, and no chapter 1 at all. Despite fans commenting on the mistake, he left it, seemingly in spite, if his responses were any indication.

He somewhere in that same mess changed his name to Little Wooden Boy. Later, he again removed *all* his stories, but left the account intact, very shortly after the account was given a generic name and he was apparently removed, and finally the account itself was removed a couple months later.

I read those post wars, but was not a part of them, though I think I recall making 1 comment post on 'Comfort'.

I remember you having a post commenting you were going to release a Tsuruko/Keitaro match of your own, to show him how it should be done (referring in regards to his attitude, not so much his content). Well, you did do it.

A shame, as like you said, he was quite rude to his commenters, even the ones not flaming him. While his writing needed some improvement, his ideas and character interaction were quite good. But I liked 'Comfort', 'Her Chance', and 'The Book', all of which I still have downloaded, and all three chapters of 'Comfort', with the order corrected.

 

[runestar]

Was littletart that rudedog guy or someone else? I too remember that I enjoyed reading their stories. Then one fine day, I went to Ff.net and imagine the surprise/dismay when I could not locate their accounts, much less their stories...

 

[Eternity-Incarnate]

Hmm...I only started getting into fanfiction about half a year ago so I might have missed out on all this stuff you guys are discussing. Were 'Little Tart's' fics that good? If anyone still has copies, can you PM me, please? I've heard say about that fic, 'the book' on a LH forum. I heard it was a good Motoko/Keitaro fic.

Oh, Voidhawk-san, it's quite a coincidence to meet you here. My friends just suggested your fic to me about two hours ago and I've only just started reading the first chapter of Moving Forwards. So far, I like it. It'll take me quite a while to go through all nine chapters though

 

[VoidHawk]

Was littletart that rudedog guy or someone else? I too remember that I enjoyed reading their stories. Then one fine day, I went to Ff.net and imagine the surprise/dismay when I could not locate their accounts, much less their stories...á

Runestar

He was rude, irresponsible and did not have any respect for readers.

My, I was fan of his work...and after knowing the guy and his attitude, I got really sad

Comfort was one of the best Tsuruko fics I read up to that moment, and the other story was Return to Hinatasou, another cool story he himself said he would finish after our exchanges. He even sad to have a chapter ready to post, but was looking for the original files as he did not have them anymore by the time he answered those messages.


I sent him a message telling him that I had the text...he never answered it.

He kept saying he would finish it, and even tried to tease me with some notes at the beginning of his last Love Hina post...he actually tried to imply I was going overboard with all that...

Well, I just expected him to be more respectful with his own fans! At least finish the ones he started, even if with a chapter like"...they were all having fun when an asteroid fell and killed them all..." at least that would be some end.

I regret nothing of my exchanges with him...and me and Havenoname were even able to make him do some movement towards finishing those stories...but his own will was not to finish them...he rather mocked us all with his stance...

Sad for any writer to act like that....really sad.

Hmm...I only started getting into fanfiction about half a year ago so I might have missed out on all this stuff you guys are discussing. Were 'Little Tart's' fics that good? If anyone still has copies, can you PM me, please? I've heard say about that fic, 'the book' on a LH forum. I heard it was a good Motoko/Keitaro fic.

Oh, Voidhawk-san, it's quite a coincidence to meet you here. My friends just suggested your fic to me about two hours ago and I've only just started reading the first chapter of Moving Forwards. So far, I like it. It'll take me quite a while to go through all nine chapters thoughá

Eternity-Incarnate

Nice to meet you ^_^

Hope you like my fic...heheh, it is long, I know. I do not like short chapter, so I try to make mine full in content, thus making them really long ^_^

Oh, do you want the copies? I can send to you, thoug I advise, they are not finished, therefore it can be really sad to read them, as you already know they will never go anywere...

And they were good. Especially Comfort and Return to Hinatasou, the ones I and Havenoname asked him to finish...his best stories in my opinion.

I will be waiting a review my friend. Can be critics, as they will always help me improve (Heh, ask Havenoname the first draft I sent him..heheh...terrible )

Just a warn: It is AU, OOC and a multi-crossover ^_^

 

[PCHeintz72]

Was littletart that rudedog guy or someone else? I too remember that I enjoyed reading their stories. Then one fine day, I went to Ff.net and imagine the surprise/dismay when I could not locate their accounts, much less their stories...?

If he is, I do not know of it, only the Little Tart / Little Wooden Boy pen names.

Hmm...I only started getting into fanfiction about half a year ago so I might have missed out on all this stuff you guys are discussing. Were 'Little Tart's' fics that good? If anyone still has copies, can you PM me, please? I've heard say about that fic, 'the book' on a LH forum. I heard it was a good Motoko/Keitaro fic.

Oh, Voidhawk-san, it's quite a coincidence to meet you here. My friends just suggested your fic to me about two hours ago and I've only just started reading the first chapter of Moving Forwards. So far, I like it. It'll take me quite a while to go through all nine chapters though?

A note, there are at least *two* stories called Book that are for Love Hina. it is likely you were referred by your friend to read the one by Turbanator, not Little Tart.

One was by Little Tart, called 'The Book' and only 3 chapters. Motoko while looking for a pencil comes across a book of Keitaro's outlining his love for her. She cannot confront him, as she found it inadvertantly while looking through his things. She is also fighting a moral battle in that she resorted to stealing the book to her room to go through it, and also fighting and attempting to resolve her own feelings toward him. Very introspective, all from her viewpoint, and little dialog.

The other was by Turbanator, called 'Book', and 3 story arcs, and some 25 chapters. It was an attempt at rewriting a large part of the Love Hina continuity with a more tug of war of emotions between Motoko, Keitaro, and to a lesser extent Naru. Regrettibly, Turbanator has stated it is all but dead, and has moved on to other fandoms. Here is the link for the second.

LH 'Book' by Turbanator - [Status=Not Complete]
- [Author1] http://www.fanfiction.net/u/84082/

As for Little Tart's work, PM me with the email to send it to and I'll send it as an attachment. I only have the ones I mentioned in my previous post though, which was 'Comfort', 'The Book', and 'Her Chance'. Make sure to let me know if you need it in ZIP, or if RAR will do. For any of his other work, you would need to go elsewhere.

 

[SimmyC]

Ah. I know him now. I've read "The Book". I thought it was a good story at the time. Too bad it seems that, the person behind it, sounds like an ass. <_<