Bleach Bleach movie 4

Watashiwa

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#51
grant said:
They do show the captains fighting...but as expected it's Byakuya and Hitsugaya. Music isn't as good as the last one. All in all I might watch it if the fights are good enough, otherwise I'll save the space.
Well, they're both bishies. Of course they'd sell.
 

~NGD OMEGA~

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#52
The movie this time is supposed to be in two fronts from what I heard, Ichigo's core group, minus Chad for some utterly asinine reason that better be related to the hollow thing rather than him getting hellfired in the trailer and thus taken out of combat AGAIN, are the ones infiltrating hell, the rest are apparently fighting hells forces on earth.

Speaking of which it seems clear they already escaped hell somehow, so how is what they're doing going to help them do something they've already done? Eh, probably more to it than the trailer covered, but I'll be keeping an eye out to hear them explain that...
 

Watashiwa

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#53
~NGD OMEGA~ said:
The movie this time is supposed to be in two fronts from what I heard, Ichigo's core group, minus Chad for some utterly asinine reason that better be related to the hollow thing rather than him getting hellfired in the trailer and thus taken out of combat AGAIN, are the ones infiltrating hell, the rest are apparently fighting hells forces on earth.

Speaking of which it seems clear they already escaped hell somehow, so how is what they're doing going to help them do something they've already done? Eh, probably more to it than the trailer covered, but I'll be keeping an eye out to hear them explain that...
Its because, unless I'm mistaken, Chad is no longer a popular character in the Bleach popularity polls. Thus, there's no point in using him in any movie or OVA.
 

~NGD OMEGA~

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#54
Which doesn't exempt him from being in the core group. I mean jeez, even Kubo isn't that retarded about it. Oh wait, Kon. >>
 

zeebee1

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#55
Kon's a wimp. Even more so than Renji. He's even more of a wuss then Chad. And he whines more than Ishida. He has no non-comedic value.
 

Watashiwa

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#56
zeebee1 said:
Kon's a wimp. Even more so than Renji. He's even more of a wuss then Chad. And he whines more than Ishida. He has no non-comedic value.
But he loves -tits- and openly tries for them at any chance he gets. Which is more than what Renji does over the course of the last four or so chapters.
 

zerohour

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#57
Ichigo had better go batshit nuts once Yuzu gets taken to hell. I mean, killing everything in his path, going all out for the entire trips, and mowing mooks down by the thousands.

If he isn't at least in bankai during any fighting after Yuzu gets taken, he fails.
 

Watashiwa

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#58
zerohour said:
Ichigo had better go batshit nuts once Yuzu gets taken to hell. I mean, killing everything in his path, going all out for the entire trips, and mowing mooks down by the thousands.

If he isn't at least in bankai during any fighting after Yuzu gets taken, he fails.
I don't think that really matters. The people who make the Bleach movies have that incessant habit of making Ichigo in bankai less powerful than Rukia in shikai.
 

grant

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#59
zeebee1 said:
Kon's a wimp. Even more so than Renji. He's even more of a wuss then Chad. And he whines more than Ishida. He has no non-comedic value.
Kon also was a close match for Ichigo when he first showed up, had some actual character development and went one on one with a Hollow back when they were a threat to the main characters. He used to be a serious character.


I don't think that really matters. The people who make the Bleach movies have that incessant habit of making Ichigo in bankai less powerful than Rukia in shikai.
Considering that nearly every image in the trailer has Ichigo putting on his mask I don't think his bankai counts for much anymore. And Yoruichi went to so much trouble to train him...
 

Watashiwa

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#60
grant said:
zeebee1 said:
Kon's a wimp. Even more so than Renji. He's even more of a wuss then Chad. And he whines more than Ishida. He has no non-comedic value.
Kon also was a close match for Ichigo when he first showed up, had some actual character development and went one on one with a Hollow back when they were a threat to the main characters. He used to be a serious character.


I don't think that really matters. The people who make the Bleach movies have that incessant habit of making Ichigo in bankai less powerful than Rukia in shikai.
Considering that nearly every image in the trailer has Ichigo putting on his mask I don't think his bankai counts for much anymore. And Yoruichi went to so much trouble to train him...
Hmmm...I guess I should write those ideas...
 

zeebee1

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#61
Kon has lost against every low level hollow he's ever faced. And he was only a threat to Ichigo in their first fight, in their second fight, which was about five minutes later Ichigo easily dominated the fight.
 

~NGD OMEGA~

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#62
<a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCi9UUxt8bQ&feature=player_embedded' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCi9UUxt8bQ...player_embedded</a>

*Chad not invading hell*



<a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXTQfbIKa8c&feature=player_embedded' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXTQfbIKa8c...player_embedded</a>

*Chad being a Badass Hero*

 

image

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#63
Is there ever going to be a main villain that does not look like a emo freak or have FABULOUS hair I mean goddamn. Awesome chad is awesome but he's not invading hell come on there needs to be more chad!
 

zeebee1

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#64
Chad should be the villain. He was the real mastermind behind Aizen.

Because the epic villain doesn't need to be epic.
 

~NGD OMEGA~

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#65
The assness of this movie has been confirmed:

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After collecting himself, Ichigo returns to Hell once again (by opening a hole in the Hell gates through an attack of his 'perfect hollow' form).
In front of Kokutou (white hair dude), Ichigo says that he's come to save his nakama.
But the three are dead - and Ishida and Renji are starting to rot, or something like that.
Since Rukia died before them, (Ichigo?) gets told that she'll be revived immediately.
On Kokutou's side, lava starts flowing out.
A person's shape starts to form from there, and it becomes Rukia (naked).
When the lava disappears from Rukia's collapsing form, at that same moment a white undershirt (kimono?) appears.
On her chest is attached the chain of Hell.
Kokutou (seizes?) that chain, and Rukia is taken hostage.
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One more post just to reassure the IchiRuki-ness of the final fight

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Well, Kokutou-san is the last boss - and he uses Rukia to threaten Ichigo.
Rukia, who's been reduced to only a soul, keeps saying 'Ichigo, Ichigo', and she's deeply worried.
When Ichigo runs wild, the Hell world leaks into the real one... so he can't run wild, since the real world would be transformed into Hell.
But the miasma from Hell drives Ichigo mad.
Rukia's support, though, intrudes/hinders... so he pulls on the chain and seizes/stops his own arm.
It looked a little bit like Nnoitra's fight.

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If I recall correctly after this fight is when Ishida and Renji are revived and they shout upon seeing Ichigo's skullclad form then Rukia screams at him to snap back.



multi sites and sources claim that renji, rukia and uryu die in hell but revived later
Key part: Ishida and Renji die and are apparently brought back. Granted it's great that it's not Chad dying for lulz, but still. >>

Also not fond of Rukia taking center stage again. Granted she's the most popular pairing with Ichigo, but I'd give a bit more of a damn if she actually, you know, did stuff in the process. Preferably stuff that didn't piss me off or tone it out by replacing it with BAW.
 

zeebee1

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#66
Why can't Orihime show up without clothes? Or even Nanao? He goes from rescuing his little sister to seeing the naked form of someone who sort of looks like she could be his little sister.
 

~NGD OMEGA~

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#67
A review, not mine obviously or there would be more bile:

The best animation in this film is the first 10 minutes of the credits. It's the Super Hollow Ichigo vs Ulquiorra fight. It's bad ass, the music is awesome and the animation is sick. They must have spent a lot of money on this first 10 minutes because the animation in the rest of the film ranged from decent to really f*cking crappy.

Okay so the basic plot is this:

The shockwave of power that emanated from Ichigo after he went Super Hollow in his fight with Ulquiorra awoke a bunch of souls that had been condemned to the lower realms of Hell. It became their goal to get Ichigo to Hell because only his power was strong enough to break the chains that bound them and free them.

In order to do this, they attacked Ichigo's high school, hurt Tatsuki () and kidnapped his sisters.

Karin gets rescued by a new guy named Kakuto. He shows up out of nowhere to help a brother out. Yuzu gets sucked into Hell and Ichigo, Renji, Rukia, Ishida and Kakuto jump in after her to save her.

Kakuto says she's already dead and it's a lost cause, but they go anyway. Orihime and Chad get left behind.

The Director decided to portray Hell with having a few different levels (kind of like Dante's Inferno).

The first level looks a bit like Ichigo's inner world except there are blue roads and you can see all the condemned spirits screaming in agony, drooling from insanity or doing pointless tasks like walking into walls. At this point the Kushanada show up. They are giant skull headed things (see photo) that repeatedly devour the souls of the dead. They eat their sins or something like that and then the souls are reborn in Hell so they can re-live the punishment over and over again.

Ichigo and co. escape these guys when Ichigo busts out a hollowified Getsuga Tenshou. Everyone tells him to put that hollow shit away and he's like "But I had no control over it?"

The group jumps down to the next area of Hell that kind of looks like flowers sitting on a lake (strange, I know). This is where the lackeys from last week's manga show up. Renji gets matched up with the hulk, Rukia gets paired with the guy sporting tentacles (of course) and Ishida fights the fatty. I won't go into the fights beyond saying that Renji FINALLY redeems himself.

At this point Ichigo splits off from the others and goes on ahead with Kakuto to find Yuzu. They jump down into yet another realm of Hell. This is where Yuzu is being held captive. The bad guy here, the one you met in the manga last week is named Syren and he's basically running the show.

Syren makes new copies of the lackeys you saw last week for Ichigo and Kakuto to fight. He then threatens to toss Yuzu into some pit of lava. Ichigo freaks the fuck out and goes Super Hollow which is exactly what he wants. He saves her and blows a bunch of shit up. In the midst of his tantrum he blasts a hole through Hell to the living world, creating a gate. At that point Renji shows up out of nowhere to transport him and Yuzu back to the world of the living.

Ichigo makes it back up top, still freaking out, and discovers that despite all that tantuming Yuzu is still dead. Orihime is called into save her but she can't do shit. Yuzu has some chain from hell on her chest keeping her soul in Hell. Ichigo loses it (he's super emotional in this one).

Everyone else is still trapped in Hell and it looks like they're stuck there for good.

Byakuya is once again brother of the year and shows absolutely no emotion whatsoever that Rukia is gone. Ichigo calls him out on it and he says something like everyone knew what the risks were when they journeyed into Hell with him. Ichigo decides to go back to Hell to rescue his friends (of course).

I won't spoil the end for you guys but it's good. I really liked this film. It had some good fights, great tunes and a little something for everyone.

Orihime's rack looks absolutely fabulous and for Ichi/Hime shippers there is a really tender scene between the two of them at his place.

For Rukia fans there's a Rukia nude scene you might enjoy.

My only beefs were with the really really crap animation in some parts and the fact that Isshin was conveniently written out of the entire film at the very beginning. The arrival of SS was really nothing more than fan service since they didn't do much of anything.

The movie had a strong "the gangs all here" type feel with the original crew, minus two, doing all the fights.

Ichigo also gets a new form. Yes, he evolves BEYOND Super Hollow Ichigo into something new, so look out for that.

I'm looking forward to the subs whenever they come out. Outside of the theatre they had some original art from Kubo, which was pretty cool (sorry for the crap picture quality). Also, they gave out a free special copy of the manga with character profiles and last week's prologue chapter called "The Hell Verse" (see picture).

The movie seems to follow directly after the K-town arc, with no mention of Aizen and Co. It's sort of like what would have happened if Aizen decided to take a one day break from his world domination plans.
Chad not going is still uber bollocks, and going beyond the form I already hate is layering stupidity upon stupidity.

I will give it this though, what they do with the OC for this movie, not mentioned here, is so inspired and amazing that I might see the movie just for that. Will probably skip over the Pat bollocks regardless though, no need to see the worst fight in the series reiterated.

Whether or not the fights and action makes up for the plot defects and lack of Chad remains to be seen.

There's this if you want to know what happens with him, the only ridiculous bit is the tooth thing, wat?

She gets hit on the face and her tooth gets chipped...

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Let's not talk about the reason why Rukia-tan looked like that - but since it's a fight scene, I guess I sort of like that desperate feeling too. It's like having her arm cut off... wait, no, if such a thing happened to Rukia-tan I'd have to lie down for a long time, no mistake about that...

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Since she's a girl, even her injuries were drawn prettily... so it was without mistake a woman's battle. Even so, it didn't give off the feeling of a woman's battle... it was cool, I sort of liked it. Though I haven't read the story, so I didn't quite understand what kind of scene it was...

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Come on, try to pull out a little. It wasn't really that harsh a portrayal.
Ichigo gets the hell beat out of him by Kokutou, and then Rukia-tan yells 'Ichigo!!', no?

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When Rukia started running towards Ichigo, Kokutou went around her and stabbed her from the front.
Kokutou: "You, be silent!"
And faster than Rukia could guard herself against, she got beat on the face. Her body fluttered lightly in the air, and sank into the sand with a thud.
A little white fragment rolled down and fell to the side.
It was Rukia's tooth.

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(Ichigo gets angry, and with a 'Uoooooooooo' cry he starts battling and quarreling with Kokutou - and with this and that and everything else he apparently turns into a hollow?)

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"...Ichigo...!"
Rubbing the blood off her mouth with the back of her hand, Rukia raised her head.
Ichigo's body was engulfed in a storm of black reiatsu.
"Shake off... the darkness... Ichigo...!"
Rukia had her eyes narrowed because of the reiatsu, and she was murmuring as if she were praying.
Kokutou: "Accept your hatred! Ichigo!"

This is where ichigo gets power from gate keeper of hell and glows yellow with bone armour
^Also if his level beyond is that stupid looking crap we've been seeing constant images of with him in that dumb looking bone garbage, HA.
 

Watashiwa

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#68
Based on the review above, when it comes out; I'll watch it for the first ten minutes. Then skip around till I find the Ichigo/Orihime part. Watch that several times, both for her bust AND for the Ichigo/Inoue bit and then delete it.
 

Avider

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#69
Why, TmZ, that makes it sound like you're not going to buy it!

Perish the thought!
 

Watashiwa

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#70
Avider said:
Why, TmZ, that makes it sound like you're not going to buy it!

Perish the thought!
The only anime I ever bought was the first GiTS movie and SAC First Gig. I still have the fansubbed versions for archival sake. That and I like fansubs better, since they are localized based on original vernacular rather than just translated so that the basic anime can understand English.
 

zeebee1

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#71
It sounds like a good plan. But I'll have to watch the Renji fight as well.
 

~NGD OMEGA~

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#72
Right so from what I'm hearing L-MQ chinese rips are currently out and about, so subs should not be far behind once the HQ stuff comes out. I'm watching it, partly because the other guys do fight, and partly because the baddie pulls a brilliant Ginjou without the memory modding making me laugh at Ichigo putting so much trust in a dude who hails from goddamn hell.

I'm not however expecting it to be good by any stretch of the imagination. Ichigo's absolutely stupid looking new form as well as rehashing the worst fight in the series already assures that, even without more rescue shenanigans and the comrades dying bits. Particularly since this is so badly set up it has literally no place in continuity.

Admittedly not the first time this has happened, the One Piece Chopper movie comes to mind for one thing, though at least that didn't have the gaul to have a manga chapter about it to try and add some continuity to it that also in itself rose far more questions than answers. :no:
 

Shadowseraph

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#73
Looks pretty bad honestly, then again I'm preemptively irritated at the movie boss guy taking up a slot in the new game when so many other good characters are out. Blah, might torrent it and flip through for fight scenes nothing else looks worthwhile.
 

~NGD OMEGA~

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#74
Well I heard Renji manages to attack Ichigo's super hollow form in it and manages to destroy it. Which sounds freaking hilarious given how the fans would react to that.

Fights don't sound particularly good, but at least the buddies actually get fights and play a role in parts, as opposed to bit parts per usual, so I'm going in for that alone. Hopefully it's not as bad as the bloody third one. >>
 

Shadowseraph

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#75
Really, Renji? I like the guy and all but... really? Ten bucks says he ends it the exact same way Ulq does, by taking off a horn while a cero is charging.
 
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