Code Geass Recommended Fanfiction
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While I appreciate your desire to help, the quality of this fic is dubious at best. And as far as what Inaba was asking for, "crack" wasn't a part of it.
And speaking of which, Inaba, that is a very challenging idea. All the way back to his mother's assassination? Hm....
shiki,
I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who sees the "Black Knights" as redundant for a time-traveling Lelouch. Though, I'm very skeptical if he really would just "rejoin" the Royal family.
And you DO raise another interesting point - if it's done correctly, there is a good chance that Suzu/Euphie will NEVER form. It *may* still come about, but NOT for the same reasons as canon.
Potential Authors reading this thread,
You heard us. We want/NEED a GOOD time-traveling Lelouch fic !!
-chronodekar
And speaking of which, Inaba, that is a very challenging idea. All the way back to his mother's assassination? Hm....
shiki,
I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who sees the "Black Knights" as redundant for a time-traveling Lelouch. Though, I'm very skeptical if he really would just "rejoin" the Royal family.
And you DO raise another interesting point - if it's done correctly, there is a good chance that Suzu/Euphie will NEVER form. It *may* still come about, but NOT for the same reasons as canon.
Potential Authors reading this thread,
You heard us. We want/NEED a GOOD time-traveling Lelouch fic !!
-chronodekar
Never said he would rejoin the Royals in any meaningful way. I just wrote "return to empire". An author can pull it off many different ways, he just needs that meeting. The prince angle would just be the most expedient.
I chose those words specifically because it really doesn't matter what way he returns to Britannia so long as he gets time to meet with the Emperor in a private setting [Which brings about its own problems: VV interference, Geass canceller, Knight of One, Marianne body jumping antics, etc.].
I chose those words specifically because it really doesn't matter what way he returns to Britannia so long as he gets time to meet with the Emperor in a private setting [Which brings about its own problems: VV interference, Geass canceller, Knight of One, Marianne body jumping antics, etc.].
Time Travel is so overdone and we ALL know (or believe it really happened this way) that Lelouch kept his promise and took CC's immortality for himself. Because lets be honest Lelouch knows peace never lasts and he'd be the best one to restore peace should they ever loose it.
So, here we have Lelouch with no Geass but still, its fucking Lelouch!
So either, Immortal Lelouch (LL) goes back in time or we get something else to do in a future.
Those are fics I would read
So, here we have Lelouch with no Geass but still, its fucking Lelouch!
So either, Immortal Lelouch (LL) goes back in time or we get something else to do in a future.
Those are fics I would read
I remember one fic where Lelouch (not time travel lelouch), get's an idea while Clovis is begging for his life.
One Geass and three days later, he is in the Emperor's Court, he asks to talk to his father alone
Since Clovis didn't die, Charles get's no afterlife info.
Lelouch bust's out his Geass presumably with a troll face a mile wide on.
Lelouch wins, gloriously.
One Geass and three days later, he is in the Emperor's Court, he asks to talk to his father alone
Since Clovis didn't die, Charles get's no afterlife info.
Lelouch bust's out his Geass presumably with a troll face a mile wide on.
Lelouch wins, gloriously.
Hm, I'd also be interested in a story where Lelouch gets tossed into what he thinks to be his past and he begins making plans based on his memories. Things are close enough that his first few plans are enormously successful, further confirming his belief, but enough is different that errors pop up and start building up. Eventually, Lelouch finds out that he isn't in his past because of a truly catastrophic failure (perhaps Nunnally comes to hate him again, he trusts someone that he shoudn't have, or he kills someone that was completely harmless in his current reality) because of unexpected conditions that weren't present in his reality. The rest of the plot becomes Lelouch scrambling to hold together his plans and figure out what is true and what isn't while the rest of the world rallies against him because of his mistakes.
Perhaps, I'm mis-reading your post, but this is EXACTLY what we do NOT want in a Code Geass time-traveling fic. At least, if Lelouch is the traveler. The issue is that, considering his "fore-knowledge" he wouldn't NEED to go through most (if not all) of his original canon plans. He would, instead make something new.
Now, to see THOSE get bombed due to something unexpected ... THAT might be interesting to read!
-chronodekar
Now, to see THOSE get bombed due to something unexpected ... THAT might be interesting to read!
-chronodekar
No, I meant a scenario where Lelouch is tossed into an alternate reality rather than his own past. He just thinks it's his past because it's superficially the same and the differences are mostly small and subtle but still important. Lelouch's earliest plans are hugely successful (to the point where he becomes either the strongest or one of the strongest players in the game) because he has more accurate information than anyone else in the game, but he's also consistently but also unnoticeably (to him) fucking up in small manners along the way because his plans are based in part on incorrect information.
That... doesn't pan out anyways. I was just writing about this in my last post. He has probably one or two chances to change things early on. This is assuming that the World of C doesn't provide Charles anything either.
Regardless if it is "his" past, things would pile up anyways. "His" timeline or not. Once he makes a move, things diverge unless he is able to account for every exact detail and emulate his every exact action.
I am of the opinion he wouldn't follow his old plan anyways. It obviously didn't work the first time with the rebellion. Only an idiot or insane person does things exactly the same and hope for different results.
Lelouch also isn't stupid, he wouldn't just assume that all his information is accurate anyways. He would be intelligent to know that the world is ever shifting and not base his tactics on assumptions that stuff doesn't change.
Just as R2 shows, the guy knows when to hold em and when to fold them. Biding his time would be the intelligent method. The less actions that he takes, the less likely something will fuck up.
It is like chess. When you have knowledge of the person's first few moves, you DON'T probe them with testing shots [like the situation that you describe]. You go for the Checkmate.
Regardless if it is "his" past, things would pile up anyways. "His" timeline or not. Once he makes a move, things diverge unless he is able to account for every exact detail and emulate his every exact action.
I am of the opinion he wouldn't follow his old plan anyways. It obviously didn't work the first time with the rebellion. Only an idiot or insane person does things exactly the same and hope for different results.
Lelouch also isn't stupid, he wouldn't just assume that all his information is accurate anyways. He would be intelligent to know that the world is ever shifting and not base his tactics on assumptions that stuff doesn't change.
Just as R2 shows, the guy knows when to hold em and when to fold them. Biding his time would be the intelligent method. The less actions that he takes, the less likely something will fuck up.
It is like chess. When you have knowledge of the person's first few moves, you DON'T probe them with testing shots [like the situation that you describe]. You go for the Checkmate.
More subtle than that. Something more along the lines of CC wanting to die even more than in canon and thus being more acquiescent to Charles's plan or Jeremiah being less enamored of Marianne than in canon and thus less dedicated to her children, small differences that cause Lelouch to put more or less trust in people than he should and create small consequences that build up over time to explode in Lelouch's face when he least expects it.
It's reasonable that Lelouch would remain suspicious in the beginning and plan based on observable evidence rather than his memories. But my reasoning was that he noticed early on that things are very, very similar to what he remembers, makes a couple of small things to test them early on, finds out that they really are the same, and starts incorporating his sort-of foreknowledge more and more into his plans from that point on. In a sense, he gets comfortable and lets his guard slip as his plans yield him enormous and meteoric success, causing him to miss out on the very small differences piling up before him.
At no point would Lelouch ever bother with any of his old plans. He's smart enough to realize his half-assed foreknowledge, but starts using his knowledge about each and every other player's goals and pieces on the board more and more as they are confirmed to be the same in this place that he finds himself. For example, he knows where the Geass Order is, he knows about its capabilities, and he knows exactly who its leadership are. The more he realizes that they're true, the faster he begins moving because they're becoming less and less useful. It's that combination of racing against time and victory disease that causes him to miss the minor details.
You could do a very similar story with Lelouch time-travelling but I prefer an alternate reality so that the ending can be Lelouch snapping when he's facing down the rest of the world a second time, deluding/persuading himself that the people arrayed against him aren't really the people he cares about, annihilating them, and then assuming the position that he has made for himself as a matter of guilt.
It's reasonable that Lelouch would remain suspicious in the beginning and plan based on observable evidence rather than his memories. But my reasoning was that he noticed early on that things are very, very similar to what he remembers, makes a couple of small things to test them early on, finds out that they really are the same, and starts incorporating his sort-of foreknowledge more and more into his plans from that point on. In a sense, he gets comfortable and lets his guard slip as his plans yield him enormous and meteoric success, causing him to miss out on the very small differences piling up before him.
At no point would Lelouch ever bother with any of his old plans. He's smart enough to realize his half-assed foreknowledge, but starts using his knowledge about each and every other player's goals and pieces on the board more and more as they are confirmed to be the same in this place that he finds himself. For example, he knows where the Geass Order is, he knows about its capabilities, and he knows exactly who its leadership are. The more he realizes that they're true, the faster he begins moving because they're becoming less and less useful. It's that combination of racing against time and victory disease that causes him to miss the minor details.
You could do a very similar story with Lelouch time-travelling but I prefer an alternate reality so that the ending can be Lelouch snapping when he's facing down the rest of the world a second time, deluding/persuading himself that the people arrayed against him aren't really the people he cares about, annihilating them, and then assuming the position that he has made for himself as a matter of guilt.
Wasn't that brought up earlier with the response being that there are none because most fanfic authors couldn't come up with an interesting scenario to save their lives and that there simply aren't enough Code Geass fics to search through?
Hell, I still want a Code Geass fanfic with either Fem!Lelouch or Fem!Suzaku. Thus far, everything I've seen give Fem!Lelouch hideously eye-gouging names such as Luluko and Lelouchia and then write the character as a crappy damsel in distress. You'd think that it wouldn't be that hard to look up Lulu as a nickname in real life and just call Fem!Lelouch Louise, but no.
Hell, I still want a Code Geass fanfic with either Fem!Lelouch or Fem!Suzaku. Thus far, everything I've seen give Fem!Lelouch hideously eye-gouging names such as Luluko and Lelouchia and then write the character as a crappy damsel in distress. You'd think that it wouldn't be that hard to look up Lulu as a nickname in real life and just call Fem!Lelouch Louise, but no.
I believe that unless the author has major political abilities, of which they can convey to the audience well, Lelouch must convince the Black Knights to 'destroy' Britannia because Britannia will never let the Sakuradite go. Not when all modern technology depends on it. And Japan is weaker than when they were invaded with less of the political standing.
If the tried to instigate revolutions, the only places worth the little time, which he does not have enough of, are the Chinese Federation & the Euro Universe. He needs a military. It's all well & good to incite the civilians, but I don't think Charles will care. Do they even have Geneva Conventions? It doesn't help that Japan has most of the Sakuradite. He needs to secure Japan to so the rebels don't die in droves. Everywhere else is essentially meaningless.
He might not like a SAZ because it's a false peace. Expedient, but false. Especially when you cross the city lines. I would imagine he would avoid all the people he doesn't want killed though. It will not be a safe venture for sure. Not with the Geass Order & especially if he knows that Charles knows anything or has a Geass.
He can't banboozle his father because as R2 showed, he was banboozled -by- his father. Judging from the flashback, his geass wasn't disabled; he was held down by Suzaku. It's certainly going to be suspenseful, as you mentioned later. The main issue, either during or after, is that he doesn't know about Rolo, which by how R2 went, means that he will die.
The problem with that, in my view, is that he's had enough experience with that. He does it himself, he knows Suzaku, (depending on when he's sent back) he's seen the Black Knight's Betrayal, he knows about Marianne, Charles, Schneizel, Anya.... If anything, it should make him even more paranoid. Especially with Charles' ability to rewrite memories or Marianne's ability to take over bodies. He's an information buff - I think he would not take things for granted. The issue is trust, & I don't like the stories where he starts tossing it around freely.
It comes to me that if he knows it was time-travel, I hope he reads up on the theories. Your idea is based on him assuming, or beginning to assume, it's one kind, but if he reads up on the varying ideas, I would hope Lelouch starts all his relationships over from scratch save some kind of vetting process & note the ones that would be least susceptible to change.
If the tried to instigate revolutions, the only places worth the little time, which he does not have enough of, are the Chinese Federation & the Euro Universe. He needs a military. It's all well & good to incite the civilians, but I don't think Charles will care. Do they even have Geneva Conventions? It doesn't help that Japan has most of the Sakuradite. He needs to secure Japan to so the rebels don't die in droves. Everywhere else is essentially meaningless.
He might not like a SAZ because it's a false peace. Expedient, but false. Especially when you cross the city lines. I would imagine he would avoid all the people he doesn't want killed though. It will not be a safe venture for sure. Not with the Geass Order & especially if he knows that Charles knows anything or has a Geass.
He can't banboozle his father because as R2 showed, he was banboozled -by- his father. Judging from the flashback, his geass wasn't disabled; he was held down by Suzaku. It's certainly going to be suspenseful, as you mentioned later. The main issue, either during or after, is that he doesn't know about Rolo, which by how R2 went, means that he will die.
The problem with that, in my view, is that he's had enough experience with that. He does it himself, he knows Suzaku, (depending on when he's sent back) he's seen the Black Knight's Betrayal, he knows about Marianne, Charles, Schneizel, Anya.... If anything, it should make him even more paranoid. Especially with Charles' ability to rewrite memories or Marianne's ability to take over bodies. He's an information buff - I think he would not take things for granted. The issue is trust, & I don't like the stories where he starts tossing it around freely.
It comes to me that if he knows it was time-travel, I hope he reads up on the theories. Your idea is based on him assuming, or beginning to assume, it's one kind, but if he reads up on the varying ideas, I would hope Lelouch starts all his relationships over from scratch save some kind of vetting process & note the ones that would be least susceptible to change.
Lelouch's Geass was covered. At the point, he didn't have the evolved geass so eye contact was necessary. Eye contact that he was not able to establish because of spinzaku.
While in series Lelouch never got a chance to Geass non-immortal Charles. The fact that the Emporer made Suzaku cover his eye... Likely geass would have worked if Lelouch got the shot off first. See R2 episode 2.
And why wouldn't he know about Rolo? of course he does. The example I gave is based on the TT of a post requiem LL. Rolo is a non factor. He was half dead and a ticking time bomb. Trap him, cause the overuse of Geass and he will die.
VV and his machinations would be the true threat if he isn't eliminated promptly. Since VV seems to be a kid, I doubt it would be too difficult to imprison him if you get Charles and immediately act on VV.
While in series Lelouch never got a chance to Geass non-immortal Charles. The fact that the Emporer made Suzaku cover his eye... Likely geass would have worked if Lelouch got the shot off first. See R2 episode 2.
And why wouldn't he know about Rolo? of course he does. The example I gave is based on the TT of a post requiem LL. Rolo is a non factor. He was half dead and a ticking time bomb. Trap him, cause the overuse of Geass and he will die.
VV and his machinations would be the true threat if he isn't eliminated promptly. Since VV seems to be a kid, I doubt it would be too difficult to imprison him if you get Charles and immediately act on VV.
My bad, I didn't remember the flashback properly. Since I don't recall, are you saying that even with a complete geass, it would have worked if he beat Charles to the punch?
Oops, I must have missed the LL detail when I replied. But in that case, wouldn't he have lost the geass? If he didn't, yeah, it's over. Perhaps a Sword of Akasha method might be better, so an author could have either C.C. & V.V. 'learn' someone is not supposed to be there or maybe have all geass users start getting 'strange' memories. Eh, that's the nature of such constricted & convenient time travel.
Oops, I must have missed the LL detail when I replied. But in that case, wouldn't he have lost the geass? If he didn't, yeah, it's over. Perhaps a Sword of Akasha method might be better, so an author could have either C.C. & V.V. 'learn' someone is not supposed to be there or maybe have all geass users start getting 'strange' memories. Eh, that's the nature of such constricted & convenient time travel.
It is implied that it would have worked. Otherwise, I don't think that Charles would expressly tell Spinzaku to cover his eye.
As for the other stuff, I also came to similar conclusion in my original post.
Here:
Further complications were spelled out in my second on the subject. I also try to explain how it would create a scenario where there is no canon rehash or being game breaking because the simplified route would invalidate all the foreknowledge, dramatic tension should still be possible from many different avenues as well.
Edit: No worries, I actually had notes on how a fic like this would go. I just never wrote it because I don't have the time nor the inclination to write it.
As for the other stuff, I also came to similar conclusion in my original post.
Here:
Further complications were spelled out in my second on the subject. I also try to explain how it would create a scenario where there is no canon rehash or being game breaking because the simplified route would invalidate all the foreknowledge, dramatic tension should still be possible from many different avenues as well.
Edit: No worries, I actually had notes on how a fic like this would go. I just never wrote it because I don't have the time nor the inclination to write it.
Weeee, I failed. I did read them, but clearly I didn't fully process them. Again, my mistake.
I rewrote most of the post above, but in that case, yeah, Lelouch wouldn't be one you give a time travel carte blanche to. Maybe C.C., since V.V. is too driven. No leaders, that's for sure. But minor to middling characters are also useless.
Hopefully the upcoming Euro Universe-based anime will reinvigorate the authors, without causing fragmentation.
I rewrote most of the post above, but in that case, yeah, Lelouch wouldn't be one you give a time travel carte blanche to. Maybe C.C., since V.V. is too driven. No leaders, that's for sure. But minor to middling characters are also useless.
Hopefully the upcoming Euro Universe-based anime will reinvigorate the authors, without causing fragmentation.
And WHAT pray tell, is wrong with Luluko? I find it rather amusing and oddly charming. But, Louise? NO. Please NO.
It reminds me too much of "Familiar of Zero" and we can do without thinking of Lelouch in that capacity. <_<
I will agree though, that Lelouchia is just horrible. It's reason enough to drop a fic, if you see it. ... unless it's crack.
-chronodekar
It reminds me too much of "Familiar of Zero" and we can do without thinking of Lelouch in that capacity. <_<
I will agree though, that Lelouchia is just horrible. It's reason enough to drop a fic, if you see it. ... unless it's crack.
-chronodekar
Luluko is fine as a nickname or in a crack fic, but as an actual name for the character in a more serious fic, it's a bad portmanteau that makes zero sense whatsoever in the context of the character. It's bad for precisely the same reasons as the name Lelouchia.
Regardless of its rather . . . strong associations with the tsundere, Louise is at least a plausible name, is associated with the French and French nobility, preserves the nickname 'Lulu' and has the rather neat meaning, 'famous warrior'. Besides, if Louise is too closely attached to the pink-haired one, there are a lot of variations on the name that can be substituted in. Examples include but are not limited to Luise, Luisa, Aloisia, Eloise and Eloisa.
Regardless of its rather . . . strong associations with the tsundere, Louise is at least a plausible name, is associated with the French and French nobility, preserves the nickname 'Lulu' and has the rather neat meaning, 'famous warrior'. Besides, if Louise is too closely attached to the pink-haired one, there are a lot of variations on the name that can be substituted in. Examples include but are not limited to Luise, Luisa, Aloisia, Eloise and Eloisa.
luluko... it's adding the japanese particle of -ko to lulu, an androgynous nickname for Louis, louise, lucretia, lelouch, and most names starting with lu or that start with L and have an u in their names or at least a similar phonetic prionunciation.
it sounds awful as a given name, tough it sounds cute as a nickname, and they are adding a japanese particle to a Britanian Name, it is not plausible considering the Racial Darwinism of CG world and the fact that neither Charles nor VV or Marianne would have named their children that or even know the basics of the Japanese language.
it's like calling Fem!Sasuke Sasuko, but in that case it is plausible because Naruto is based on Japanese Archetypes (modded to fit the Shinobi/Magical Soldier World) or Ranma in his female body Ranko (tough Rank is a Japanese Name)
it sounds awful as a given name, tough it sounds cute as a nickname, and they are adding a japanese particle to a Britanian Name, it is not plausible considering the Racial Darwinism of CG world and the fact that neither Charles nor VV or Marianne would have named their children that or even know the basics of the Japanese language.
it's like calling Fem!Sasuke Sasuko, but in that case it is plausible because Naruto is based on Japanese Archetypes (modded to fit the Shinobi/Magical Soldier World) or Ranma in his female body Ranko (tough Rank is a Japanese Name)