Algnar said:
Ironicly I love the Fate / Stay Night path.? Shirou wasn't mature enough prior to the grail war to be what Sakura needed to heal her from the wounds she has endured. After learning about love and loss through his relationship with Saber I think post FSN Shirou is a much better canidate for a relationship partner for Sakura. in my own personal Fate universe, Rin leaves for the clocktower and Shirou and Sakura hook up for domestic bliss
And Shirou and Rin working together can take care of the worm issue by getting rid of them
I assume you mean the
Fate path.
But I guess that that's a
possibility, although I would imagine Saber fans would be less than happy with the idea....
Look she was less mind controlled and more driven bug fuck psycho in the end. Yeah at first she's under thrall, but then after shinj's blackmail attempt she breaks and gives in.
Well, 1) she's not sane at that point and 2) she doesn't actually
kill anyone in that form (Zouken, Shinji and Kotomine excepted, and they all
deserve to die).
Okay I phrased that wrong because it does imply Sakura deserved to be put to death post events of the grail war. which is wrong cause looking at it from an actual legal ethical standpoint you right she was clearly not mentally competent or in control during those events and she needs a mental hospital not a death sentence or even a prison sentence.
Actually, she doesn't even need a mental hospital, because sh's not responsible
Look the preemptive killing of sakura without for knowledge of what she did in MoS WAS wrong due to motivation and intent but not necessarily in action.
With
hindsight, you could perhaps argue that (although I'm not convinced, because I don't think Shirou would win the war in MoS
anyway, and IMO with hindsight there were probably ways to save Sakura
and the people who were eaten by the shadow), but given what Shirou knew at the time it was not the right decision.
Do you have any military/police/security training? I aská Because in real life police who face people who are having psychotic episodes or other severe mental illness issues have to make a similar choice.
Usually those undergoing such things are harmless.. but once in a while they start presenting a serious danger to those around them. In theory it would be nice to restrain them, but often times trying to do that is damn dangerous itself either to those they are threatening or you trying to restrain them. In those cases police, security, even bystanders have to pick one of several very unpleasant options.
You might be facing a person who with the right medication and therapy would be a upstanding member of society, loved by family and community.. but right there at the point of decision they are a serious danger to peoples lives, or even in the process of killing someone or potentially killing you, so the least worst option open to you is to use lethal force to stop them. It's tragic, but it sometimes what has to happen to avert worse tragedies.
Of course, but that does not apply to Sakura because, at that exact moment, she is
not a danger. What you're saying here is like saying that the police should murder all insane people in the sleep in case they forget to take their medication one day and go nuts.
tl;dr version: I carry a gun, I have to accept that fact the possibility exists I might have to shoot a poor crazy person, who might be a nice person while medicated in order save an innocent life. It sucks, but shit happens.
Perhaps, but doing so should be the absolute
last resort, which you only take if there is no other possible alternative and the threat is imminent. That was simply not true in HF, because at no point did Shirou
ever come across Sakura when she was in the process of eating people. Even the second time around there were alternatives, like watching over her to prevent her killing again (or, indeed, just going and dealing with Zouken there and then, which would at least give her a
chance of survival).
Shirou and Rin needed to hammer Sakura hard once they realized what was going on.
Or, alternately, they could give her a chance and actually save her life.
And Rin's deciding at the last moment to rely on the power of love was only a good choice in fiction (which we are talking about so I guess its a moot point)
Given the situation, it was the only real option. I mean, Sakura ripped Zouken's worm out of her own heart without even
flinching. Do you honestly think that a tiny little knife could kill her?
In real life, it just leads to more bad shit and if you survive such stupidity usuallyá results in a life time of therapy and alcoholism, versus a decade of therapy for making the hard choice
I disagree with this statement. There are many cases where not going trigger-happy is definitely the best choice, and HF was one of them.