Harry Potter Earl of the North
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I consider this notable, primarily because this seems to be the point where Silvere forgets that Harry never actually practiced the Dark Arts, and that Ron and Hermione just made that up. From this point forwards, Harry is spoken about with the assumption that he was in fact studying the Dark Arts, and when it later comes up in his presence, he never objects to it or claims that he was not, instead making excuses that he was using it to help build course material for the DA.
This has no real bearing on the rebuild: I just wanted to make the observation.
This has no real bearing on the rebuild: I just wanted to make the observation.
I would have gone with 'sad' or 'disappointing,' myself.
Again. As a fan of Ron being kind-of-a-dick, I have to say: you're laying it on far too thickly.
Dumbledore. Just saying.
Also, this is getting bogged down. I'm going to speed this up, and start making notes only where I feel a desire to change things. Pointing out flaws in a non-MST setting and making fun of them is rude, and does not serve the point of this thread.
Again. As a fan of Ron being kind-of-a-dick, I have to say: you're laying it on far too thickly.
Dumbledore. Just saying.
Also, this is getting bogged down. I'm going to speed this up, and start making notes only where I feel a desire to change things. Pointing out flaws in a non-MST setting and making fun of them is rude, and does not serve the point of this thread.
Raine on the whole Sirius is jailed alongside Harry front I had an idea at work.
Prophet Headline: "Stubby Boardman sent to Azkaban"
"Stubby Boardman" aka Sirius gets himself deliberately throw into jail (along with the proper bribes) as Harry's cell mate.
The Ministry still believes Sirius is at large, when in reality he's back in Azkaban under an assumed name to break Harry out ASAP.
Ciao
Prophet Headline: "Stubby Boardman sent to Azkaban"
"Stubby Boardman" aka Sirius gets himself deliberately throw into jail (along with the proper bribes) as Harry's cell mate.
The Ministry still believes Sirius is at large, when in reality he's back in Azkaban under an assumed name to break Harry out ASAP.
Ciao
That. . . is a very interesting idea. It would be a crowning moment of heartwarming daww and sheer badassery for Sirius to get thrown into Harry's cell, for Harry to incredulously ask what the hell he's doing there, and for him to say "because you're here. I told you I'd always protect you, didn't I?"
I am seriously considering that as a viable option to the "Fudge never gives his paper to Sirius" idea. Of course, then I'd have to explain why Sirius is alive in a post-DoM world, but that shouldn't be too hard. Maybe Dumbledore showed up a minute sooner, or something.
I am seriously considering that as a viable option to the "Fudge never gives his paper to Sirius" idea. Of course, then I'd have to explain why Sirius is alive in a post-DoM world, but that shouldn't be too hard. Maybe Dumbledore showed up a minute sooner, or something.
That is the other big problem. There were wanted posters of Sirius everywhere. Even if people didn't know what he looked like before third year, they do by know. Especially since Sirius was getting blamed for all of the shit Voldemort was causing up through OotP.
The only thing we know of that could get him through security and into Azkaban without being identified as Sirius Black is the Polyjuice. And that only lasts an hour.
I suppose. . . maybe. . . hmm. It would be difficult, but. . . just a second. I'll be right back. I want to check something from Chamber of Secrets real quick. I have an idea, and I think an important bit of information was mentioned there.
The only thing we know of that could get him through security and into Azkaban without being identified as Sirius Black is the Polyjuice. And that only lasts an hour.
I suppose. . . maybe. . . hmm. It would be difficult, but. . . just a second. I'll be right back. I want to check something from Chamber of Secrets real quick. I have an idea, and I think an important bit of information was mentioned there.
Found what I needed. And my idea is plausible. Not necessarily canonically compliant, but it's possible given what little we know.
Polyjuice normally only lasts an hour, but according to both Chamber of Secrets, Half-Blood Prince, and Deathly Hallows, varying the dose up and down can increase or decrease the duration of the effect.
Goblet of Fire showed us that it is possible to maintain a continuous transformation that exceeds the normal limits of the potion. If you take another dose of the potion before the first wears off, you remain transformed.
So for a sustained transformation, you would have to take repeated doses at set intervals, but if you do, you can remain transformed indefinately.
So how do you take the doses if you're being processed and sentenced to jailtime? Obviously they wouldn't let you keep a hip flask or drinking container on you. So if you were to do it, the doses would have to already be inside you. Is that possible?
Yes. It is. If you could store doses in time released pill capsules that were made to dissolve at staggered intervals, you could maintain a long-term Polyjuice without ever having to drink the potion itself. All of the potion necessary would be ingested at once, and it would be released into your system at overlapping intervals.
Of course, Sirius probably couldn't come up with that on his own. But no one says he has to be the sole person involved in the plan. Lupin could be an accomplice, and since he spends most of his time in the muggle world anyway due to his condition, it makes sense as something he might think up.
Of course, that's incredibly complicated, and not nearly as simple as "Fudge didn't give Sirius the paper," but it does make the idea much more possible. Assuming that route was taken, Sirius taking three or four pills with near-hour doses in them could explain away what a single hour long dose could not.
What do you guys think?
Polyjuice normally only lasts an hour, but according to both Chamber of Secrets, Half-Blood Prince, and Deathly Hallows, varying the dose up and down can increase or decrease the duration of the effect.
Goblet of Fire showed us that it is possible to maintain a continuous transformation that exceeds the normal limits of the potion. If you take another dose of the potion before the first wears off, you remain transformed.
So for a sustained transformation, you would have to take repeated doses at set intervals, but if you do, you can remain transformed indefinately.
So how do you take the doses if you're being processed and sentenced to jailtime? Obviously they wouldn't let you keep a hip flask or drinking container on you. So if you were to do it, the doses would have to already be inside you. Is that possible?
Yes. It is. If you could store doses in time released pill capsules that were made to dissolve at staggered intervals, you could maintain a long-term Polyjuice without ever having to drink the potion itself. All of the potion necessary would be ingested at once, and it would be released into your system at overlapping intervals.
Of course, Sirius probably couldn't come up with that on his own. But no one says he has to be the sole person involved in the plan. Lupin could be an accomplice, and since he spends most of his time in the muggle world anyway due to his condition, it makes sense as something he might think up.
Of course, that's incredibly complicated, and not nearly as simple as "Fudge didn't give Sirius the paper," but it does make the idea much more possible. Assuming that route was taken, Sirius taking three or four pills with near-hour doses in them could explain away what a single hour long dose could not.
What do you guys think?
That could definetly work, but I have another idea that could be possible to fit around cannon.
Why not have Remus in jail and have it take place during 5th year. Sirius is still alive but because of Umbridge she got Remus sent to jail for endagering students. Gives Harry learning the Patronus charm and Sirius waiting at his home trying to figure a way to free not only his godson but his best friend. Remus could easily guide Harry throgh the animagus training in Azkaban and after Harry escapes his cell he then helps Remus get out.
Not sure if you would want to do this but just giving you another option without having to worrying about how to fit things into the timeline.
Why not have Remus in jail and have it take place during 5th year. Sirius is still alive but because of Umbridge she got Remus sent to jail for endagering students. Gives Harry learning the Patronus charm and Sirius waiting at his home trying to figure a way to free not only his godson but his best friend. Remus could easily guide Harry throgh the animagus training in Azkaban and after Harry escapes his cell he then helps Remus get out.
Not sure if you would want to do this but just giving you another option without having to worrying about how to fit things into the timeline.
It irritates me that Azkaban is being treated like a classroom, as opposed to a horrific violation of all conceivable human rights. It also irritates me that a long, vauge amount of time passes here in this story without any real reference to how much time has elapsed, beyond the fact that school has started again and Harry is still there.
I'm thinking that, by this point, I'd like to have Harry out of Azkaban. Maybe have him settle into his island around the time school starts, as opposed to having school start while he's still in Azkaban. I think that's reasonable for two reasons:
1.) Sirius is only teaching Harry one thing, not an entire cirriculum of things.
2.) They are rushing to try and beat the monthly manual inspection of Azkaban by human guards and Aurors.
In the context of my original idea, the guards could potentially detect the training efforts for Harry to become an animagus, which would tip them off that an escape was being planned. In the context of fitzgerald's idea, the rush is obviously so that the Aurors don't look in and realize that they've got Sirius Black in a holding cell.
I'm thinking that, by this point, I'd like to have Harry out of Azkaban. Maybe have him settle into his island around the time school starts, as opposed to having school start while he's still in Azkaban. I think that's reasonable for two reasons:
1.) Sirius is only teaching Harry one thing, not an entire cirriculum of things.
2.) They are rushing to try and beat the monthly manual inspection of Azkaban by human guards and Aurors.
In the context of my original idea, the guards could potentially detect the training efforts for Harry to become an animagus, which would tip them off that an escape was being planned. In the context of fitzgerald's idea, the rush is obviously so that the Aurors don't look in and realize that they've got Sirius Black in a holding cell.
Lord Raine said:
Found what I needed. And my idea is plausible. Not necessarily canonically compliant, but it's possible given what little we know.
Polyjuice normally only lasts an hour, but according to both Chamber of Secrets, Half-Blood Prince, and Deathly Hallows, varying the dose up and down can increase or decrease the duration of the effect.
Goblet of Fire showed us that it is possible to maintain a continuous transformation that exceeds the normal limits of the potion. If you take another dose of the potion before the first wears off, you remain transformed.
So for a sustained transformation, you would have to take repeated doses at set intervals, but if you do, you can remain transformed indefinately.
So how do you take the doses if you're being processed and sentenced to jailtime? Obviously they wouldn't let you keep a hip flask or drinking container on you. So if you were to do it, the doses would have to already be inside you. Is that possible?
Yes. It is. If you could store doses in time released pill capsules that were made to dissolve at staggered intervals, you could maintain a long-term Polyjuice without ever having to drink the potion itself. All of the potion necessary would be ingested at once, and it would be released into your system at overlapping intervals.
Of course, Sirius probably couldn't come up with that on his own. But no one says he has to be the sole person involved in the plan. Lupin could be an accomplice, and since he spends most of his time in the muggle world anyway due to his condition, it makes sense as something he might think up.
Of course, that's incredibly complicated, and not nearly as simple as "Fudge didn't give Sirius the paper," but it does make the idea much more possible. Assuming that route was taken, Sirius taking three or four pills with near-hour doses in them could explain away what a single hour long dose could not.
What do you guys think?
Polyjuice normally only lasts an hour, but according to both Chamber of Secrets, Half-Blood Prince, and Deathly Hallows, varying the dose up and down can increase or decrease the duration of the effect.
Goblet of Fire showed us that it is possible to maintain a continuous transformation that exceeds the normal limits of the potion. If you take another dose of the potion before the first wears off, you remain transformed.
So for a sustained transformation, you would have to take repeated doses at set intervals, but if you do, you can remain transformed indefinately.
So how do you take the doses if you're being processed and sentenced to jailtime? Obviously they wouldn't let you keep a hip flask or drinking container on you. So if you were to do it, the doses would have to already be inside you. Is that possible?
Yes. It is. If you could store doses in time released pill capsules that were made to dissolve at staggered intervals, you could maintain a long-term Polyjuice without ever having to drink the potion itself. All of the potion necessary would be ingested at once, and it would be released into your system at overlapping intervals.
Of course, Sirius probably couldn't come up with that on his own. But no one says he has to be the sole person involved in the plan. Lupin could be an accomplice, and since he spends most of his time in the muggle world anyway due to his condition, it makes sense as something he might think up.
Of course, that's incredibly complicated, and not nearly as simple as "Fudge didn't give Sirius the paper," but it does make the idea much more possible. Assuming that route was taken, Sirius taking three or four pills with near-hour doses in them could explain away what a single hour long dose could not.
What do you guys think?
In story context, Harry is in a high security/max security cell, right? What the hell could Sirius, as Stubby Boardman, do to get himself tossed into this particular wing of Azkaban? Even if he wasn't guilty before, he'd sure as hell be guilty now.
Honestly, Sirius never getting the paper works better, because in this manner, Harry getting tossed into Sirius' cell could be explained as the ministry wanting to 'torture' him since Harry is a 'murdering bastard of a child who should be bloody burning in hell.'
Sirius, as Boardman, getting tossed into Harry's cell, on the other had, is a much more contrived and unbelievable coincidence. Hell, I don't claim to be an expert on the penal system, but do prisoners even share cells anymore?
The former ends up as an 'oversight.' The latter is more :huh: :mellow:
No, if we go with that then Sirius' plan would most likely be as follow.
Time his "crime" so that he is put into Azkabam the day of the monthly inspection so the guard see him in his proper cell still transformed. Once they're gone, turn into a dog, sneak out of his cell and then into Harry's. As long as he is in the same wing as Harry, it shouldn't be too difficult to pull off.
Time his "crime" so that he is put into Azkabam the day of the monthly inspection so the guard see him in his proper cell still transformed. Once they're gone, turn into a dog, sneak out of his cell and then into Harry's. As long as he is in the same wing as Harry, it shouldn't be too difficult to pull off.
No explaination is given for why someone touching a Warlock Rune makes using the power it gives you easier. That doesn't even make sense logically.
Assuming I keep it in, and I might not, it will likely be purely symbolic in nature. Making it Instant Powersource Poke With Stick just seems odd, and unnessarily complicated. If the fic was based around the idea of Warlock Runes, who has them, and all of the myriad things that they might do, then going into it in-depth would be understandable. But this is Earl of the North, not Harry Potter and the Warlock Rising. The Rune is a sideshow to the main attraction that is Harry Potter as a magical overlord. You will note that no attention was given to the birthmarks Sauron may or may not have had.
Assuming I keep it in, and I might not, it will likely be purely symbolic in nature. Making it Instant Powersource Poke With Stick just seems odd, and unnessarily complicated. If the fic was based around the idea of Warlock Runes, who has them, and all of the myriad things that they might do, then going into it in-depth would be understandable. But this is Earl of the North, not Harry Potter and the Warlock Rising. The Rune is a sideshow to the main attraction that is Harry Potter as a magical overlord. You will note that no attention was given to the birthmarks Sauron may or may not have had.
It is however gold mine for comedy.
"Why the *bleep* do they think you're Stubby?"
"Because I'm Stubby Boardman. This is Stubby's hat you see, & I must be Stubby if I'm wearing the hat."
or insert other classic "Mistaken Identity" comedy references here.
Forget polyjuice, all Sirius needs is a shave, haircut, a tan & a nice new hat. Well that and the help of a few insiders aka Tonks and Shack.
Ciao
"Why the *bleep* do they think you're Stubby?"
"Because I'm Stubby Boardman. This is Stubby's hat you see, & I must be Stubby if I'm wearing the hat."
or insert other classic "Mistaken Identity" comedy references here.
Forget polyjuice, all Sirius needs is a shave, haircut, a tan & a nice new hat. Well that and the help of a few insiders aka Tonks and Shack.
Ciao
