Earth/Minbari War Interventions

biigoh

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MWkillkenny84 said:
Here are the last thing the Minbari have heared at the Battle of the Line:


Why so serious, Minbari?


Three guess of WHAT EARTH is it.
And without the grey council (they got the Joker instead of Sheridan), earth gets glassed. Also known as the Good End. :p
 
biigoh said:
And without the grey council (they got the Joker instead of Sheridan), earth gets glassed. Also known as the Good End. :p
Why aren't you able to see the LARGER picture?
If this Earth is Jocker's birthplace, there are also his arch-nemesis BATMAN and the rest of the g-damned Justice League of America.
INCLUDED a member of the Green Lantern's Corp.
And I can already see the JLA kick Minbari's ass (and Batman SCARE TO DEATH the Vorlons AND the Shadows).
 

biigoh

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Ah... but THAT Joker is from the Batman reboot movies, which means no JLA... only a batman, who is an old old man.
 

DhampyrX2

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biigoh said:
Ah... but THAT Joker is from the Batman reboot movies, which means no JLA... only a batman, who is an old old man.
No JLA yet until they cast the movie, you mean. It bears the DC Universe movie logo, which means Superman Returns Superman is in play, too. Which means, yeah you've got a Justice League and that would SPANK the Minbari the same way the a Marvel team like the Avengers would. Probably worse with heavy hitters like Supes, Wonder Woman, freakin Green Lantern, Big Barda, Orion, etc. there on the roster. The goddamn Batman would be overkill even if it was a Batman Beyond version.
 
biigoh said:
Ah... but THAT Joker is from the Batman reboot movies, which means no JLA... only a batman, who is an old old man.
I've used that phrase because it was the only one who I KNOWED to be universally recognized as Jocker's.
The version is the Animated or the Comics version.
Does anyone see the Vorlon shit themselves when the Green Lanterns Corps enter the conflict to help Green Lantern of 2814.


Uhh, speacking of the 'Corps... what will happen if the Earth was the <a href='http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6095074/1/Takamachi_Nanoha_of_2814' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Takamachi Nanoha of 2814</a>'s Earth?
For the lulz, of course.
 
biigoh said:
Ah... but THAT Joker is from the Batman reboot movies, which means no JLA... only a batman, who is an old old man.
I've used that phrase because it was the only one who I KNOWED to be universally recognized as Jocker's.
The version is the Animated or the Comics version.
Does anyone see the Vorlon shit themselves when the Green Lanterns Corps enter the conflict to help Green Lantern of 2814?


Uhh, speacking of the 'Corps... what will happen if the Earth was the <a href='http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6095074/1/Takamachi_Nanoha_of_2814' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Takamachi Nanoha of 2814</a>'s Earth?
For the lulz, of course.
 

Hunter 1

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Uh, the Minbari would hit pause, then press L+R+Z+Start, if they had any sense...
 

Tsukino_kage

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The TSAB by itself would totally rape the Minbari, though the Vorlons might give them a fight. Even a standard Nanoha cross with just them would be overkill.
 
SotF said:
The Zerg, though neither side would want them involved, though the collective panic attacks of the Shadows and Vorlons would be amusing
Snort. The Zerg are not nearly that big of a threat for either of the two sides even when not counting the EU.

And frankly the Shadows would ecstatic about the Zerg given that their presence would basically do the Shadows jobs for them at creating strife and forcing evolution through survival of the fittest and luckiest, though they would still intervene from time to time to make things worse for everyone involved.

The Vorlon's on the other hand would be fairly pissed at the damage that the Zerg are causing to galaxy, though probably interested in them from a scientists point of view. Whether they intervened depends on whether or not what the hell the Zerg are doing at that time, and whether or not they're threatening a race that Vorlons care for.

Tsukino_kage said:
No difference from the Tyranids one...
Not really. The Zerg are no where as powerful as the hive fleets, though they are faster.

But there's a thought, what if this earth is the Starcraft one down the road? The one that exiled the Terrans in the Koprulu sector?
Not much given that the exiling is a pretty recent event, so they aren't going to have any of the technology that Starcraft humanity has.
 
MWkillkenny84 said:
biigoh said:
And without the grey council (they got the Joker instead of Sheridan), earth gets glassed. Also known as the Good End.á :p
Why aren't you able to see the LARGER picture?
If this Earth is Jocker's birthplace, there are also his arch-nemesis BATMAN and the rest of the g-damned Justice League of America.
INCLUDED a member of the Green Lantern's Corp.
And I can already see the JLA kick Minbari's ass (and Batman SCARE TO DEATH the Vorlons AND the Shadows).
MWkillkenny84 said:
Here are the last thing the Minbari have heared at the Battle of the Line:

Why so serious, Minbari?

Three guess of WHAT EARTH is it.
MWkillkenny84 said:
biigoh said:
And without the grey council (they got the Joker instead of Sheridan), earth gets glassed. Also known as the Good End.á :p
Why aren't you able to see the LARGER picture?
If this Earth is Jocker's birthplace, there are also his arch-nemesis BATMAN and the rest of the g-damned Justice League of America.
INCLUDED a member of the Green Lantern's Corp.
And I can already see the JLA kick Minbari's ass (and Batman SCARE TO DEATH the Vorlons AND the Shadows).
DhampyrX2 said:
biigoh said:
Ah... but THAT Joker is from the Batman reboot movies, which means no JLA... only a batman, who is an old old man.
No JLA yet until they cast the movie, you mean. It bears the DC Universe movie logo, which means Superman Returns Superman is in play, too. Which means, yeah you've got a Justice League and that would SPANK the Minbari the same way the a Marvel team like the Avengers would. Probably worse with heavy hitters like Supes, Wonder Woman, freakin Green Lantern, Big Barda, Orion, etc. there on the roster. The goddamn Batman would be overkill even if it was a Batman Beyond version.
MWkillkenny84 said:
biigoh said:
Ah... but THAT Joker is from the Batman reboot movies, which means no JLA... only a batman, who is an old old man.
I've used that phrase because it was the only one who I KNOWED to be universally recognized as Jocker's.
The version is the Animated or the Comics version.
Does anyone see the Vorlon shit themselves when the Green Lanterns Corps enter the conflict to help Green Lantern of 2814.
The problem with all of this is that it outright ignores that thanks to the butterfly effect that neither the Vorlons or shadows would have any reason to bother with the shepherding of the younger races which means among other things NO Minbari or Battle of the Line (not that it would've happened anyway given the major differences). Also any race that still remains takes a massive jump again in comic science in order to continue to exist like they do.

Or that given just how generally respected that Green Lantern corp are supposed to be (re: depending on whose writing the damn comic) are by the majority of most of the races throughout the galaxy/universe it's more then likely that they'd come in to stop the war and then serve intermediaries between the Earth and Minbari to start getting this cleared up if by some incredible chance the Minbari still did exist.
 
Tsukino_kage said:
The TSAB by itself would totally rape the Minbari, though the Vorlons might give them a fight. Even a standard Nanoha cross with just them would be overkill.
Actually it probably depends. Given how damn common magitech seems to be in the Nanohaverse, not to mention how its made out as the next major advancement on the 'technolgical scale' from what I understand, it's possible that all of the Babylon 5 races would have some magitech of some type. If not then the Minbari are screwed. :D

Anyhow the Vorlons as I think I've commented before are going to intervene one way or the other unless it looks like the TSAB is going to commit genocide on the Minbari. Just about the only things that could get the Vorlon's up and active at this point besides the shadows getting active is the threat of either the Babylon 5 version of Earth humanity or the Minbari being wiped out by somebody*. Outside of that, and they won't bother.

*Which in a fairly dark way makes the entire E-M war somewhat amusing when start to consider just how heavily the Vorlon's where tying themselves in knots over the catch-22 they had found themselves in. Any other race would've have suddenly started to run into problems (ships mysteriously going missing, governmental factions suddenly in total war with each other, Earthforce suddenly making technological jumps, ect) that would increase in nastiness as threat to either of those two races increases.
 

DhampyrX2

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"John Sherridan, you have shown the ability to overcome great fear. Welcome to the Green Lantern Corps."

Minbari go squish.


Or another path.

"Minbari commanders, your if you wold direct your attention to the following comminque: Minbari warrior caste, your souls are stained with the blood of the innocent. Look into me eyes. Feel their pain!"
 

DhampyrX2

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The modern EarthGov is the evolution of the original Robotech series as set in the novels, mostly to help flesh out the bridges between the three generations. Only in this case they did things that made sense and added a bit of Macross Plus to explain why the SDF-1 was still intact and would randomly fire off into space. Basically, Earth rebuilt it after the Invid invasion as a weapon of last resort rather than leaving it as some kind of dead monument.

Meanwhile, although decommissioned, the SDF-3 is still intact as is the Arc Angel. The ruins of the Grand Cannon, as well as the three other Grand Cannons that were only half completed still exist. (In the novels it was explained that they planned to build four that could provide cover fire for the whole planet but only finished the one at Alaska Base. Common sense would provide for finishing them quietly during the years of peace.)

All that is missing is protoculture or another viable power source to get things running. Treaties with the Invid and the Sentinels or not Earth was facing destruction. I think they could have pulled something out of their ass to protect the planet on the sly like a new form of protoculture matrix. Heck, do some gene splicing and cross-breeding to the Flower of Life so that what you made isn't 'technically" protoculture. Either way, youend up with the Minbari facing what equates to the RDF, REF, and Army of the Souther Cross in terms of mecha.

Suddenly the fight got just a bit more fair. Never mind that the four Grand Cannons covering the Earth itself is a SICK form of defense against orbital attack. Like opening a door to come face to face with a shotgun going off sick.
 

rdde

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Crossing with Robotech would give Babylon 5 some serious indigestion.
  1. You have the Robotech Masters, the Zentraedi and the Invid romping about the galaxy. The Zentraedi themselves at the very least would be visiting every single planet on the way to Earth in Feb 2009. Considering that Earth is surrounded by many civilisations, that won't be pretty.
  2. In Babylon 5 canon, during the E-M war, the EA lost 5 ships for every Minbari ship. In Robotech, the Third Robotech War ends by 2044 with the humans having more superior technology than the EA. This means Robotech Earth has over a century to expand their borders and to improve their ability to wage interstellar war before first contact with the Centauri in 2156, the Dilgar war in 2230 or the Earth-Minbari war in 2245.
  3. The E-M war probably won't start the same as it did in B5 canon, as by then Earth sensor technology should be able to handle the Minbari sensor technology.
Oh, I have an idea. Perhaps Earth has problems with armed rebellion, who were losing terribly. As a last gesture of defiance or by chance, the rebels assaulted the Minbari and killed Dukhat before expiring, leaving Earth with an enraged Minbari Federation.
 

DhampyrX2

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rdde said:
Crossing with Robotech would give Babylon 5 some serious indigestion.
  1. You have the Robotech Masters, the Zentraedi and the Invid romping about the galaxy. The Zentraedi themselves at the very least would be visiting every single planet on the way to Earth in Feb 2009. Considering that Earth is surrounded by many civilisations, that won't be pretty.
  2. In Babylon 5 canon, during the E-M war, the EA lost 5 ships for every Minbari ship. In Robotech, the Third Robotech War ends by 2044 with the humans having more superior technology than the EA. This means Robotech Earth has over a century to expand their borders and to improve their ability to wage interstellar war before first contact with the Centauri in 2156, the Dilgar war in 2230 or the Earth-Minbari war in 2245.
  3. The E-M war probably won't start the same as it did in B5 canon, as by then Earth sensor technology should be able to handle the Minbari sensor technology.
Oh, I have an idea. Perhaps Earth has problems with armed rebellion, who were losing terribly. As a last gesture of defiance or by chance, the rebels assaulted the Minbari and killed Dukhat before expiring, leaving Earth with an enraged Minbari Federation.
Point on the technology front, minus two factors. One the Zentradi never had to enter the neighboring space around Earth's solar system because of spacefold technology. They just wanted the location where Zor's ship had folded. Likewise the Masters followed the Zentradi and the Invid only cared about worlds where the Flower of Life grew i.e. Earth. None of them would have had reason to care about the Centauri, Mimbari, or anyone else two hundred years before B5 canon. The other factor is at the end of End of the Circle Lisa's epilogue made it pretty clear that the whole universe had abandoned protoculture after the ascention of the Invid Regis. Couple that with the fact things like fusion drives were not unheard of and its not impossible to see the current EarthGov of B5 as a kind of sideways slide in terms of the tech as compared to Robotechnology. They tried to find something to replace what they had and it never really measured up.

For the scenario presented, they were fine with that until the Minbari started kicking their asses. All of a sudden it comes to reviving (and possible repackaging to at least pay lip service to earlier treaties) protoculture and robotechnology or facing extinction. All of a sudden those improved sensors, more manueverable fighters, and impossibly powerful main cannons for the SDF-1 and the SDF-3 look pretty darned attractive.
 

Tsukino_kage

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DhampyrX2 said:
Point on the technology front, minus two factors. One the Zentradi never had to enter the neighboring space around Earth's solar system because of spacefold technology. They just wanted the location where Zor's ship had folded. Likewise the Masters followed the Zentradi and the Invid only cared about worlds where the Flower of Life grew i.e. Earth. None of them would have had reason to care about the Centauri, Mimbari, or anyone else two hundred years before B5 canon. The other factor is at the end of End of the Circle Lisa's epilogue made it pretty clear that the whole universe had abandoned protoculture after the ascention of the Invid Regis. Couple that with the fact things like fusion drives were not unheard of and its not impossible to see the current EarthGov of B5 as a kind of sideways slide in terms of the tech as compared to Robotechnology. They tried to find something to replace what they had and it never really measured up.

For the scenario presented, they were fine with that until the Minbari started kicking their asses. All of a sudden it comes to reviving (and possible repackaging to at least pay lip service to earlier treaties) protoculture and robotechnology or facing extinction. All of a sudden those improved sensors, more manueverable fighters, and impossibly powerful main cannons for the SDF-1 and the SDF-3 look pretty darned attractive.
Cyclone already did something like this in "Thin Grey Line" at FF.net. Wish he'd continue.

Also, he used Shadow Chronicles, which makes End of the Circle secondary or non-canon.
 

DhampyrX2

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Tsukino_kage said:
DhampyrX2 said:
Point on the technology front, minus two factors.? One the Zentradi never had to enter the neighboring space around Earth's solar system because of spacefold technology.? They just wanted the location where Zor's ship had folded.? Likewise the Masters followed the Zentradi and the Invid only cared about worlds where the Flower of Life grew i.e. Earth.? None of them would have had reason to care about the Centauri, Mimbari, or anyone else two hundred years before B5 canon.? The other factor is at the end of End of the Circle Lisa's epilogue made it pretty clear that the whole universe had abandoned protoculture after the ascention of the Invid Regis.? Couple that with the fact things like fusion drives were not unheard of and its not impossible to see the current EarthGov of B5 as a kind of sideways slide in terms of the tech as compared to Robotechnology.? They tried to find something to replace what they had and it never really measured up.

For the scenario presented, they were fine with that until the Minbari started kicking their asses.? All of a sudden it comes to reviving (and possible repackaging to at least pay lip service to earlier treaties) protoculture and robotechnology or facing extinction.? All of a sudden those improved sensors, more manueverable fighters, and impossibly powerful main cannons for the SDF-1 and the SDF-3 look pretty darned attractive.
Cyclone already did something like this in "Thin Grey Line" at FF.net. Wish he'd continue.

Also, he used Shadow Chronicles, which makes End of the Circle secondary or non-canon.
I remember that. I miss it. I'd rather run with End of the Circle just because it gives a possible origin for human psychics with the whole issues iwth the Sentinel kids getting mind-boosted.

That's a scary thought. The Psy-Corps originated with the kids of Rick and Lisa and Max and Miriya's youngest daughter.

Besides I like the thought of humans fighting for themselves rather than recruiting the Sentinels to help and magically gaining a massive fleet the way Cyclone did it.
 

Tsukino_kage

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DhampyrX2 said:
I remember that. I miss it. I'd rather run with End of the Circle just because it gives a possible origin for human psychics with the whole issues iwth the Sentinel kids getting mind-boosted.

That's a scary thought. The Psy-Corps originated with the kids of Rick and Lisa and Max and Miriya's youngest daughter.

Besides I like the thought of humans fighting for themselves rather than recruiting the Sentinels to help and magically gaining a massive fleet the way Cyclone did it.
I actually thought that part was a combined crowning moment of awesome and heartwarming, in that not everyone abandoned the humans in their hour of need and came en mass. Even former enemies like the Invid.
 

rdde

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I rather disliked the <a href='http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3427629/1/The_Thin_Grey_Line_Breaking_the_Oath' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Thin Grey Line</a> and was put off by the over the top cheesiness of the plot.

I can accept the Zentraedi's search not impacting the B5 timeline by much. They could have been defolding in deep space before scanning the local area for traces instead of defolding in a possibly inhabited solar system.

As for a possible technological slide, Earth primarily uses protoculture as a power source - I'm not sure if protoculture is required for all the transformation stuff, shielding or spacefold. I have forgotten the minutiae about the various Sentinel races, whose choice technology may well be available to Earth at the end of the series.

Even so, removing protoculture from the picture means that they need to get a reasonable replacement, but it shouldn't cause a serious backwards slide in overall technology. Artificial gravity should at least still be available and will be a big boon to UN's space exploration. And depending on which Robotech material we keep or discard, the Robotech satellite factory (which made a large bulk of the original Zentraedi fleet) might still be available to the UN. This will make a huge difference in how events are played out.

This is the primary reason I disliked the Thin Grey Line as it brutally ripped out all the knowledge earned through blood and sweat from the Robotech wars in order to crudely use the canon Earth-Minbari war.

Some more notable Babylon 5 events:
2018: On July 4, the first permanent Lunar Colony is established in the Sea of Tranquility on Earth's moon.
2050: Two Vorlon vessels hide out under the Antarctic ice cap and begin abducting humans visiting the continent.
2057: On July 4, the first human manned interplanetary vessel, Ares 3, lands on Mars.
2101: Humans return to Mars, setting up small scientific exploration and military bases.

Sources:
1. <a href='http://www.firstones.com/wiki/Babylon_5_Timeline' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>http://www.firstones.com/wiki/Babylon_5_Timeline</a>
2. <a href='http://koti.phnet.fi/jarilaak/babylon5/chronology.html' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>http://koti.phnet.fi/jarilaak/babylon5/chronology.html</a>
 

DhampyrX2

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The Invid destroyed the Satellite first thing in the novel timeline. It had become a dilapidated (due to a lack of available resources to maintain it) home for female Zentraedi that were tired of trying to fit in with humans. And Protoculture was needed for just about everything that made robotechnology what it was. The whole concept of things reconfiguring was based on Proculture's properties, at least going by the novels. Then again, you needed neural interfaces in your flight helmet to work a Veritech properly in the novels, too.

Although, humans in the pre-Protoculture Robotech Universe were slightly more advanced than their early B5 counterparts despite the Global Civil War. They had built Mars Base Sara at that point. It's where Lisa's pedo-paicifist of boyfriend died.
 

rdde

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The Moon base and Mars Base Sara was constructed years after the Macross crashed on Earth.

As for the satellite factory, there was one that got destroyed by the Haydonites during the Shadow Chronicles movie, far away from the Sol system.

Materials technology should remain available. It is not like they needed protoculture to cast all those armour.

Artificial gravity should still be available, unless the Tirolians somehow came up with an artificial gravity principle that depended on protoculture, but I doubt it. Even so, they still can ask fellow Sentinel races for help. The Haydonites probably don't depend much on protoculture.

Fusion power plants should also be available. Thruster technology capable of pushing ships as large as 5km should also be available. They might not have the ability to power them, but they don't have to start over from scratch. And the best part is that they know what is possible, that alone reduces initial development costs because recreating is cheaper than creating from scratch.

With the availability of artificial gravity, people can stay out in the field for much longer, generally allowing them to increase their efficiency at whatever task at hand. With a timeline spanning up to two hundred years, that is a lot of cumulative work added together.
 

DhampyrX2

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rdde said:
The Moon base and Mars Base Sara was constructed years after the Macross crashed on Earth.

As for the satellite factory, there was one that got destroyed by the Haydonites during the Shadow Chronicles movie, far away from the Sol system.

Materials technology should remain available. It is not like they needed protoculture to cast all those armour.

Artificial gravity should still be available, unless the Tirolians somehow came up with an artificial gravity principle that depended on protoculture, but I doubt it. Even so, they still can ask fellow Sentinel races for help. The Haydonites probably don't depend much on protoculture.

Fusion power plants should also be available. Thruster technology capable of pushing ships as large as 5km should also be available. They might not have the ability to power them, but they don't have to start over from scratch. And the best part is that they know what is possible, that alone reduces initial development costs because recreating is cheaper than creating from scratch.

With the availability of artificial gravity, people can stay out in the field for much longer, generally allowing them to increase their efficiency at whatever task at hand. With a timeline spanning up to two hundred years, that is a lot of cumulative work added together.
The SDF-1 crashed in '99 IIRC and the Zentraedi arrived in '09. That's still a signficant change from where B5 was in terms of solar system logistics. The Satellite factory I'm talking about that the Invid destroyed was the one Rick, Max, Miriya, and baby Dana captured without firing a shot. It was orbiting out toward Jurpiter I think and you got a nice dire warning of the Invid's arrival with the paranoid radar guy that kept in contact with them.

As for Earth stagnating or backsliding in tech, considering that Earth fell beck to Dark Ages tech levels in the B5 finale as they showed different point in the future, it it really hard to see them devolving a bit in a couple of hundred years without the access to fold technology to reach Tirol/New Praxis?
 

rdde

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I agree that Robotech's UEG build up from post-Global Civil War with little in space infrastructure to launching the SDF-1, having more than thirty ARMD and Oberth vessels, spaceyards, a Moon base and a Mars base is ridiculous. Dr Lang's transformation must have left him with some great insights on how to quickly assimilate and adapt alien technology.

As for the lack of protoculture issue, I just recalled of another factor. The REF may have access to pre-protoculture Tirolian technology. The Tiroleans had to travel to the Invid homeworld first in another star system in order to discover the Flowers of Life. Before then, the Tiroleans had working artificial gravity and some form of efficient sublight technology. I believe that the Robotech Master travelled to Earth using their sublight drives, thus the reason for them arriving years after the destruction of the Zentraedi armada and after the REF left for Tirol.

As for technological collapse, maybe, but I don't see it happening to Earth in 2050. By whatever date the collapse happened to Earth in Babylon 5, there is a great possibility that all natural resources on the Earth were exhausted and the survivors would not be able to naturally advance beyond the stone age. Great probability they can't create a fusion power plant without access to adequate oil resources in order to construct all the technological inter-dependencies.
 

yog

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After studying the process of Dilgar's homestar going Nova, the Earth Alliance creates the type of strategic weapon not seen outside of the select few of the First One races.
It's work principle is deceitfully simple. By strapping six hyperspace generator together and configuring the, to generate overlaping jump-points in specific configuration, an unstable wormhole is created, that will exponentially grow in it's size as long as the power above certain point is provided to it. The wormhole can feed on the energy converted from the matter that passes through it because part of it would instantly be destroyed by the interaction with the unstable and chaotic form of the overloaded tear in the space-time continuum.

This weapon is useless against enemy ships - EA does not sensors precise enough for a jump-point attacks on the mobile targets an,d, besides, the weapon is a one-shot suicide weapon for the operating crew - the ship on which the generators are positioned will inevitably be destroyed by being near.

The weapon can not be used against planets or asteroid or space stations - the density of the matter is not enough to sustain the ever-growing wormhole.

There is only one type of targets that can be destroyed destroyed by this terrifiing weapon. And those are stars. When initiated in the region of hyperspace corresponding with the core of a star, the unstoppable process of the super-nova is initiated. The process takes up to three years depending on the parameters of the target star and is almost undetectable at first. When it goes far enough to be detected however, there is little anybody can do, for even the evacuation of the target solar system is made almost impossible due to the hyperspace storms and interference with the navigation net generated by the energetic growing wormhole that are stretching for up to a light-year in hyperspace.

After the creation of this weapon, it is immediately banned on the grounds of being too terrifying and with concern of the repercussions of it's use on the future of the Earth Alliance as a member of galactic society. Several prototypes are created, however, to serve as a strategic deterrent and, possibly, to insure the MAD scenario with any and all alien races. No information is leaked to any alien government of course.

Before the Battle of the line however, the government realizes however, that they are facing extinction and there is nothing they can do about it. As a last f*** you to the universe, they initiate "the Ragnarök scenario", sending the sun destroyer weapon to the Minbar (how they obtained coordinates is a separate story, but this is not a place for it). Even as the ships above the Earth are slaughtered, the fate of the Minbar is sealed by the human hand.

And then minbari surrender.

Well, and the author can go from here. The human government is faced with the dilemma of informing minbari about the imminent destruction of their home system and that they have only a year to evacuate. The vorlons are faced with the fact that their circle is, if not ruined, than threatened severely. The Shadows and all other first ones must deal with the fact that one of the greatest weapons in the galaxy is in the hands of the youngest of races. It could be interesting.
 
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