Earth/Minbari War Interventions

[trevelyan1983]

That . . . would end badly for the Minbari. Leaving aside all personal powers of the cast, you have genetic enhancement, exoskeletons, multiple Cabbits or Yugi (in non-OVA continuities), sub-space storage, Jurai's Tree Ships, the Space Police armada, Seina's mech . . .

Curb-stomp doesn't begin to describe it.

 

[Tsukino_kage]

Which is why they had to change things from canon to make it work. I didn't say it was canon at all. Jurai in this is portrayed as being far more evil than the relatively light hearted Tenchi series and the Minbari as being more powerful than they were (but not more evil, at least not much, apparently, they were already evil enough). It was also Earth wank at it's core. It's not high art, but I admit, it was fun to read.

 

[Typhonis]

Problem there is Tsunami would warn the Vorlons off from the Jurians since they are HER people. Shadows would get a simular warning. One does not fuckj with one of the Chousin. The last time a Chousin slapped another one....they punched a hole in the Galaxy and had to reset time to fix that.

 

[Belgarion213]

If I remember Back Home correctly the Choushin went to 'the three oldest/most powerful beings in the universe' (with the possible exception of whatever it was that expressed itself in Tenchi) to being just one of the Old Ones hanging around with Lorien(and subordinate ones at that). And of course there was the whole for some reason Ryoko joined the United States or some such bullshit. I stopped reading after I raged long enough.

 

[AbyssalDaemon]

If I remember Back Home correctly the Choushin went to 'the three oldest/most powerful beings in the universe' (with the possible exception of whatever it was that expressed itself in Tenchi) to being just one of the Old Ones hanging around with Lorien(and subordinate ones at that). And of course there was the whole for some reason Ryoko joined the United States or some such bullshit. I stopped reading after I raged long enough.

Yep, as I said character (and canon) rape of the century for everyone. And lets not even get into the NBG cross into it. :headbanger:

 

[pacifist]

Found it! It's called Back Home, Here's the author's FF.net account: <a href='http://www.fanfiction.net/u/212642/Warringer' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Warringer</a>

And the explanation here is that they're fighting over the irony that they're too much alike. They both think they're the top of the food chain and deserve to be there, and can't stand that there's another who is their equal or even can come close. And the Darker variant, Going Home, has them both outright enslaving other races out of some twisted idea that they're "uplifting" them, though I admit that canonically, that was the Centauri's excuse. Neither Jurai nor Minbar in their canons did that. They did that in Back Home too, but it wasn't as pronounced.

Oh yeah, the Vorlons and the Shadows are waiting in the wings to start another round of their stupid pissing game, and only Tenchi and his chosen few know that and are frantically preparing to survive the storm. Some of the AU to this story have them losing and running to other universes like nBSG (Best option since they can pretty much curbstomp the Cylons easily even in their weakened state, although another alternate on Spacebattles has them gettng attacked by the Colonials with the Colonial military getting handed their heads) Star Wars (Somewhat bad since they have the tech to take on Deathstars and win, but the Empire can still Dogpile them with numbers and even if they win, there are other nasties out there like the Yuuzhan Vong), or worst yet, Warhammer 40000 (right in the middle of a battle between the Tyranids and the Eldar no less, and yes, they know how bad it is since to them, W40K was fictional until they ended up in that universe. Talk about frying pan and the fire).

Hmmm...

Now that's an interesting thought melding 40K and B5. Specifically at the end of B5 when the vorlons and shadows leave to visit a new galaxy.

They activate a portal to go to the new galaxy and both civilizations end up in the 40K universe. Which side does each join or are the 2 forced to join forces to protect themselves against everything.

 

[WarmasterCain55]

It's been a while since I watched B5 but during the EA/Minbari, were the Minbari fond of close combat in addition to space battles?

 

[SotF]

It's been a while since I watched B5 but during the EA/Minbari, were the Minbari fond of close combat in addition to space battles?

Makes me wonder how they'd deal with stumbling upon Archeron and the alien ship...

Xenomoprh infestation of their planets as things begin to speed up.

Or even a ship making an emergency landing on an unknown ring and unleashing the flood...

 

[sworded]

On another note, there was this one fanfic I remember, where, in an act of spite, the humans took out the gate network and the survivors of mankind retreated to the safety of the Shadows protection. The ensuing chaos causes interstellar civilization to grind to a halt, with the Minbari becoming more hated than ever. I'd like to see that concept continued, perhaps with the humans, with Shadow help, creating new forces while everyone else is rebuilding to give the war another round?

There's also another one by Disruptor that has the humans rediscovering old tech that lets them escape the Minbari, but are forced to abandon Earth as well as one where they get help from alternate universes by the same author. I wonder what happened with those?

There's also one by another author that has the humans finding the Iratus bug and becoming mutated into Wraith. Sheridan pulls a MacArthur in this one.

Finally, there's a couple of stories by the same author, where EA is the successor to UEG from Robotech, and rediscovers Shadow Chronicles tech along with help from the Sentinels to kick Minbari ass. That just begs to be continued. The other has humans requesting help from their oldest allies: The Autobots. Can you imagine how the other races will react to Unicron, specially when the humans just send everything they have into that fight alongside the Autobots?

I'd love to read the first fic if you can remember where.

Haven't read any of Disruptor's fics.

I've read the third fic but can't find it right now.

The fourth fic, Robotech/B5 x-over, is by <a href='http://www.fanfiction.net/u/62966/Cyclone' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Cyclone</a> and titled <a href='http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3427629/1/The_Thin_Grey_Line_Breaking_the_Oath' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>The Thin Grey Line Breaking the Oath</a>, but I can't remember or find any fics of his that cross B5 with Transformers.

Has anyone mentioned or read <a href='http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3128060/1/Arrival_of_the_Astartes' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Arrival of the Astartes</a> by <a href='http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1116696/TheLunarWolf' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>TheLunarWolf</a>? Non corrupted Horus and Magnus end up in B5 univers do to crazy Warp shit years befor Earth encounters any aliens; it's dead but awesome.

Also does anyone know where to find a fic that had Human civilization ten thousand years older and allied with the Shadows? Other details included the humans having advanced AIs who'd they'd warred against in the past but were now fully a part of human society with rights and everything. For some reason I want to say the name is Galaxy Storm, but I can't guarantee that is the correct name.

 

[Prince Charon]

There's also the issue that Earth is a Jurain colony world even if it is backwater and considered hands-off. Attacking Earth means declaring war on the Juraian Empire and involving the Galaxy Police, who are supposed to keep incursians against Earth away.

Thus leading to Typhonis's rendition of Lady Seto's speech.

 

[DhampyrX2]

There's also the issue that Earth is a Jurain colony world even if it is backwater and considered hands-off.? Attacking Earth means declaring war on the Juraian Empire and involving the Galaxy Police, who are supposed to keep incursians against Earth away.

Thus leading to Typhonis's rendition of Lady Seto's speech.

Exactly. This is speculation on a canon Jurai intervention, not someone else's pre-existing fic. Which would pretty much equal a Tsunami-smackdown on the boneheads. Well assuming Wachu-chan doesn't set up a field to turn them all into kappa the moment they enter the system, of course.

 

[MWkillkenny84]

Umh.... and if the Earth Alliance's Earth was the Man In Black's Earth, or the Power Rangers one?

 

[semil]

If you're familiar enough with something to suggest it, you shoud know enough to be able to suggest what might happen.

 

[MWkillkenny84]

If you're familiar enough with something to suggest it, you shoud know enough to be able to suggest what might happen.

I do not have great narrative (writted using english) skills.
I _CAN_ image what will happen, but I'm not very good at WRITE IT in English, I'm Italian and I can acess full time at the online translators.

 

[AbyssalDaemon]

Umh.... and if the Earth Alliance's Earth was the Man In Black's Earth, or the Power Rangers one?

Men in Black universe: The Minbari and all the other B5 races take a massive jump technologically in comic science in order to continue to exist like they do. Things go roughfully as par as they did in the original war as most of the MiB races won't care about trying to save humanity from something that was there own mistake.

Power Rangers universe: Given how deeply respected the Rangers are by the good races in the galaxy it's more then likely that they could serve as intermediaries between the Earth and Minbari if a war broke out. Which it possibly might not do to the fact that the PR Earth seems to be a lot less likely to get 'top dog of the universe' mentality that the B5 one was suffering from right before the war broke out, and is a lot less likely to go kick up the hornets nest by skulking around the Minbari border and running into Dukhat's ship.

 

[Tsukino_kage]

Uhh... which Rangers time frame are you going to use? In Space would have the Alliance of Evil to deal with and whatever shitty story came after that probably has a better space type tech, but RPM I think will not be in any shape to press a war, so only Time Force has a good chance of winning. Power Rangers can make a difference but if there's only a handful of them to defend a planet, it's not going to be enough against the whole Minbari fleet.

 

[AbyssalDaemon]

Outside of RPM (which supposedly is in its own continuity ) the Rangers seem to be generally seen as a force of good across the galaxy.

 

[MWkillkenny84]

Power Rangers universe: Given how deeply respected the Rangers are by the good races in the galaxy it's more then likely that they could serve as intermediaries between the Earth and Minbari if a war broke out. Which it possibly might not do to the fact that the PR Earth seems to be a lot less likely to get 'top dog of the universe' mentality that the B5 one was suffering from right before the war broke out, and is a lot less likely to go kick up the hornets nest by skulking around the Minbari border and running into Dukhat's ship.

Rotten apples can be foun anywhere, it isn't hard to have a Jankowsky situation even in a PR-based universe (and I use In Space and/or Lost Galaxy as EA!base continuity)...

 

[Deathsheadx]

Found it! It's called Back Home, Here's the author's FF.net account: <a href='http://www.fanfiction.net/u/212642/Warringer' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Warringer</a>

And the explanation here is that they're fighting over the irony that they're too much alike. They both think they're the top of the food chain and deserve to be there, and can't stand that there's another who is their equal or even can come close. And the Darker variant, Going Home, has them both outright enslaving other races out of some twisted idea that they're "uplifting" them, though I admit that canonically, that was the Centauri's excuse. Neither Jurai nor Minbar in their canons did that. They did that in Back Home too, but it wasn't as pronounced.

Oh yeah, the Vorlons and the Shadows are waiting in the wings to start another round of their stupid pissing game, and only Tenchi and his chosen few know that and are frantically preparing to survive the storm. Some of the AU to this story have them losing and running to other universes like nBSG (Best option since they can pretty much curbstomp the Cylons easily even in their weakened state, although another alternate on Spacebattles has them gettng attacked by the Colonials with the Colonial military getting handed their heads) Star Wars (Somewhat bad since they have the tech to take on Deathstars and win, but the Empire can still Dogpile them with numbers and even if they win, there are other nasties out there like the Yuuzhan Vong), or worst yet, Warhammer 40000 (right in the middle of a battle between the Tyranids and the Eldar no less, and yes, they know how bad it is since to them, W40K was fictional until they ended up in that universe. Talk about frying pan and the fire).

Back Home by Warringer pains me.

The Amount of character rape involved makes my eyes bleed. what makes it worse is Warringer is one of those writers who never bothered to do the research. he never really watched Tenchi, has no real idea of the continuity and series and thus he relies on fanon or just made shit up.

In the end Back Home became a Humanity/trope/genre!Wank.

 

[MWkillkenny84]

Minbari! This is OUR Earth! We will not stand to see some I-am-better-than-any-other alien race destroy OUR prize, our eternal object of conquest.
Yes, we have always failed, but we will not let you destroy our future domain.
So, we will fight against you, at the same side of our enimies!
...
COOOOOBRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!


Yes, the EA!Earth is the G.I.Joe's Earth.

 

[Tsukino_kage]

Minbari! This is OUR Earth! We will not stand to see some I-am-better-than-any-other alien race destroy OUR prize, our eternal object of conquest.
Yes, we have always failed, but we will not let you destroy our future domain.
So, we will fight against you, at the same side of our enimies!
...
COOOOOBRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!


Yes, the EA!Earth is the G.I.Joe's Earth.

This is likely to run on the same vein as the Doctor Doom vs Minbari snippet

 

[MWkillkenny84]

This is likely to run on the same vein as the Doctor Doom vs Minbari snippet

Doc Doom?
Umh, doom...
Why not the Doom's videogame serie's Earth, as the EA!Earth?

 

[SotF]

The Zerg, though neither side would want them involved, though the collective panic attacks of the Shadows and Vorlons would be amusing

 

[Tsukino_kage]

The Zerg, though neither side would want them involved, though the collective panic attacks of the Shadows and Vorlons would be amusing

No difference from the Tyranids one...

But there's a thought, what if this earth is the Starcraft one down the road? The one that exiled the Terrans in the Koprulu sector?

 

[MWkillkenny84]

Here are the last thing the Minbari have heared at the Battle of the Line:


Why so serious, Minbari?


Three guess of WHAT EARTH is it.