Evangelion [Evangelion] Miscellaneous ideas topic.

marthf1

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Miscellaneous ideas topic.

No one would be safe. No one.

I agree on Gendo, but the old stalwarts of Kaji, Asuka, Misato, & Touji should be great as well. They have the most to complain about or be affected by Tonnura's skills.
 

Prince Charon

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Lord Raa said:
Random idea that only works in the crackfic world that I seem to inhabit most of the time.

Ritsuko has cats. This is a fact.

What if one of those cats was <a href='http://www.mangareader.net/tonnura-san/1' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Tonnura-san</a>?
What does Tonnura mean, anyway? Something related to 'smug'?
 
Miscellaneous ideas topic.

Somebody might have mentioned this in the numerous past threads -- or the current thread somewhere further back -- so my apologies if it's a repeat.

But why not make Gendo just a little more ruthless with his son?

Rather than abandoning Shinji to fend for himself because "I'd just cause him pain", Gendo DOES end up raising Shinji...but does it basically like he raised Rei. He molds Shinji into a socially isolated, emotionally fragile, death-seeking fanatic whose only purpose is to make Dad happy by bringing Mom back. So that he can have a family again.

If you were careful, you could avoid the "badass Shinji" trap. A Shinji raised by Gendo might end up fairly competent, but he'd be emotionally pathetic. Sort of like a quieter, more desperate fusion of canon Shinji and Asuka minus the boastfulness, sprinkled with a nigh-obsessive tendency to cling to a father who feels uncomfortable reciprocating. Especially if Gendo initially abandoned him and then thought better of it.

(On the bright side, he'd have Rei as a sister from the beginning.)
 
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Antitwilight said:
Somebody might have mentioned this in the numerous past threads -- or the current thread somewhere further back -- so my apologies if it's a repeat.

But why not make Gendo just a little more ruthless with his son?

Rather than abandoning Shinji to fend for himself because "I'd just cause him pain", Gendo DOES end up raising Shinji...but does it basically like he raised Rei. He molds Shinji into a socially isolated, emotionally fragile, death-seeking fanatic whose only purpose is to make Dad happy by bringing Mom back. So that he can have a family again.

If you were careful, you could avoid the "badass Shinji" trap. A Shinji raised by Gendo might end up fairly competent, but he'd be emotionally pathetic. Sort of like a quieter, more desperate fusion of canon Shinji and Asuka minus the boastfulness, sprinkled with a nigh-obsessive tendency to cling to a father who feels uncomfortable reciprocating. Especially if Gendo initially abandoned him and then thought better of it.

(On the bright side, he'd have Rei as a sister from the beginning.)
Remembered this from a long, long time ago. Think it died after 2 or 3 chapters, tho.

<a href='http://ffmlsearch.inklesspen.com/message/show/1186904483.M862606P12296Q91583.euterpe' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>His only begotten son</a>
 
Miscellaneous ideas topic.

notamisfit said:
Antitwilight said:
Somebody might have mentioned this in the numerous past threads -- or the current thread somewhere further back -- so my apologies if it's a repeat.

But why not make Gendo just a little more ruthless with his son?

Rather than abandoning Shinji to fend for himself because "I'd just cause him pain", Gendo DOES end up raising Shinji...but does it basically like he raised Rei. He molds Shinji into a socially isolated, emotionally fragile, death-seeking fanatic whose only purpose is to make Dad happy by bringing Mom back. So that he can have a family again.

If you were careful, you could avoid the "badass Shinji" trap. A Shinji raised by Gendo might end up fairly competent, but he'd be emotionally pathetic. Sort of like a quieter, more desperate fusion of canon Shinji and Asuka minus the boastfulness, sprinkled with a nigh-obsessive tendency to cling to a father who feels uncomfortable reciprocating. Especially if Gendo initially abandoned him and then thought better of it.

(On the bright side, he'd have Rei as a sister from the beginning.)
Remembered this from a long, long time ago. Think it died after 2 or 3 chapters, tho.

<a href='http://ffmlsearch.inklesspen.com/message/show/1186904483.M862606P12296Q91583.euterpe' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>His only begotten son</a>
Huh...Fairly interesting so far (up to the first chapter at this point). Too bad it ended early.
 

Antimatter

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Miscellaneous ideas topic.

How about a crackfic where the opposite happens, and shinji abandons Gendo to go run Nerv.
 

Sdebeli

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Master of Squirrel-Fu said:
Antimatter said:
How about a crackfic where the opposite happens, and shinji abandons Gendo to go run Nerv.
Fund it.
Only if he by the power of crack turns out to be even more mindfuckingly competent than Gendo.
 

Lord Raa

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What chain of events takes Shinji from his insecure, slightly apathetic canon self to the point where he's in charge of NERV?
 
Miscellaneous ideas topic.

Lord Raa said:
What chain of events takes Shinji from his insecure, slightly apathetic canon self to the point where he's in charge of NERV?
Seele sends the messaged as a letter to Mr. Ikari and Shinji just happens to be the first one to open it?
 

Lord Raa

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Master of Squirrel-Fu said:
Lord Raa said:
What chain of events takes Shinji from his insecure, slightly apathetic canon self to the point where he's in charge of NERV?
Seele sends the messaged as a letter to Mr. Ikari and Shinji just happens to be the first one to open it?
Shinji suddenly loses all his manners and starts opening mail that isn't specifically addressed to him?

That fits.

No, wait, it doesn't.

Try again.
 

Antimatter

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Lord Raa said:
What chain of events takes Shinji from his insecure, slightly apathetic canon self to the point where he's in charge of NERV?
Isn't he like that because his father abandoned him? If he abandoned his father, wouldn't that change Gendo to be a bit more depressed? He's a ruffian who's wife died, and his child left him behind.
 

Lord Raa

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Antimatter said:
Lord Raa said:
What chain of events takes Shinji from his insecure, slightly apathetic canon self to the point where he's in charge of NERV?
Isn't he like that because his father abandoned him? If he abandoned his father, wouldn't that change Gendo to be a bit more depressed? He's a ruffian who's wife died, and his child left him behind.
OK. so Gendo is the depressed one.

Still doesn't explain how Shinji is in charge of NERV. The moment they see him they're going to know he's not the Ikari they're looking for.
 

Antimatter

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Lord Raa said:
Antimatter said:
Lord Raa said:
What chain of events takes Shinji from his insecure, slightly apathetic canon self to the point where he's in charge of NERV?
Isn't he like that because his father abandoned him? If he abandoned his father, wouldn't that change Gendo to be a bit more depressed? He's a ruffian who's wife died, and his child left him behind.
OK. so Gendo is the depressed one.

Still doesn't explain how Shinji is in charge of NERV. The moment they see him they're going to know he's not the Ikari they're looking for.
Given this is crack, maybe they figure what the hell, and think they could basically use him as a puppet.

turns out, the kid actually has a knack for runnign shadowy military organizations.
 
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Lord Raa said:
Master of Squirrel-Fu said:
Lord Raa said:
What chain of events takes Shinji from his insecure, slightly apathetic canon self to the point where he's in charge of NERV?
Seele sends the messaged as a letter to Mr. Ikari and Shinji just happens to be the first one to open it?
Shinji suddenly loses all his manners and starts opening mail that isn't specifically addressed to him?

That fits.

No, wait, it doesn't.

Try again.
Well if he's just dumping his father at his uncles to run a large facility to secretly kill all humans you got to be a little bit dickish. Him just becoming a little troll would make it all the more hilarious to me
 

Sdebeli

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Mailing error that sends the a letter addressed to a Mr. Ikari to Shinji's address if they're not living at the same place at the moment?
 
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Lord Raa said:
What chain of events takes Shinji from his insecure, slightly apathetic canon self to the point where he's in charge of NERV?
Shortly after Yui got sucked into the Evangelion, the Instrumentality Committee (with or without Gendo's knowledge) did their own occult experiments on Shinji, implanting Adam and otherwise fiddling with his AT field.

Since Adam wants to reunite with the Marshmallow Monster in NERV's basement, Adam gives Shinji instructions and prophetic visions about how to proceed toward Instrumentality.

Shinji thereby becomes the real "leader" of NERV, with Gendo as his public representative / political hatchet-man / Fuyutsuki style advisor. Unfortunately, he's still basically a scared, attention-deprived 14 year old kid. He just also happens to be the First Messenger's avatar-on-Earth as far as a bunch of creepy fanatics are concerned.
 

Lord Raa

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Antitwilight said:
Lord Raa said:
What chain of events takes Shinji from his insecure, slightly apathetic canon self to the point where he's in charge of NERV?
Shortly after Yui got sucked into the Evangelion, the Instrumentality Committee (with or without Gendo's knowledge) did their own occult experiments on Shinji, implanting Adam and otherwise fiddling with his AT field.

Since Adam wants to reunite with the Marshmallow Monster in NERV's basement, Adam gives Shinji instructions and prophetic visions about how to proceed toward Instrumentality.

Shinji thereby becomes the real "leader" of NERV, with Gendo as his public representative / political hatchet-man / Fuyutsuki style advisor. Unfortunately, he's still basically a scared, attention-deprived 14 year old kid. He just also happens to be the First Messenger's avatar-on-Earth as far as a bunch of creepy fanatics are concerned.
That might work. I don't know who could write it well enough to work though.
 
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Antitwilight said:
Lord Raa said:
What chain of events takes Shinji from his insecure, slightly apathetic canon self to the point where he's in charge of NERV?
Shortly after Yui got sucked into the Evangelion, the Instrumentality Committee (with or without Gendo's knowledge) did their own occult experiments on Shinji, implanting Adam and otherwise fiddling with his AT field.

Since Adam wants to reunite with the Marshmallow Monster in NERV's basement, Adam gives Shinji instructions and prophetic visions about how to proceed toward Instrumentality.

Shinji thereby becomes the real "leader" of NERV, with Gendo as his public representative / political hatchet-man / Fuyutsuki style advisor. Unfortunately, he's still basically a scared, attention-deprived 14 year old kid. He just also happens to be the First Messenger's avatar-on-Earth as far as a bunch of creepy fanatics are concerned.
You sir have just killed my buzz.
 

PCHeintz72

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For a comedy route... there is the one where he inherits Nerv after Gendo is run over and killed by a drunk Misato whom does not even remember doing so...

I think it was called 'Under New Management' by 049 Faithless Observer.
 

Sdebeli

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PCHeintz72 said:
For a comedy route... there is the one where he inherits Nerv after Gendo is run over and killed by a drunk Misato whom does not even remember doing so...

I think it was called 'Under New Management' by 049 Faithless Observer.
It is called so. Gendo died in a traffic accident and due to him being Gendo, he had already bought NERV and left it in a will to Shinji out of spite for everyone.
But due to it being Gendo, it's still all according to plan. :rolleyes:
 

Prince Charon

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Weird random crossover thought: <a href='http://evangelion.wikia.com/wiki/Keel_Lorenz' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Keel Lorenz</a> is really <a href='http://marvel.wikia.com/Scott_Summers_%28Earth-616%29' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Scott Summers</a>.

The idea assumes no sliding timescale, no anti-aging powers, and that the X-Men started operating around 1963.
 

PCHeintz72

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Prince Charon said:
Weird random crossover thought: <a href='http://evangelion.wikia.com/wiki/Keel_Lorenz' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Keel Lorenz</a> is really <a href='http://marvel.wikia.com/Scott_Summers_%28Earth-616%29' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Scott Summers</a>.

The idea assumes no sliding timescale, no anti-aging powers, and that the X-Men started operating around 1963.
I guess the question would be what is the motivation?

So... would he e doing it in an attempt to reunite with Jean? She has likely been dead a long time, so she probably would not be there.
 

FinalMax

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PCHeintz72 said:
Prince Charon said:
Weird random crossover thought:? <a href='http://evangelion.wikia.com/wiki/Keel_Lorenz' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Keel Lorenz</a> is really <a href='http://marvel.wikia.com/Scott_Summers_%28Earth-616%29' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Scott Summers</a>.

The idea assumes no sliding timescale, no anti-aging powers, and that the X-Men started operating around 1963.
I guess the question would be what is the motivation?

So... would he e doing it in an attempt to reunite with Jean? She has likely been dead a long time, so she probably would not be there.
Considering Jean's history with the Phoenix Force, anything's possible. Seriously, that thing could have just stuck her soul some corner that only Instrumentality could release her from.
 

zerohour

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RE: Miscellaneous ideas topic.

How many stories have crazy cultists as a primary factor?

The end of the World, with monsters appearing in the skies is a perfect environment fro the crackpots, and the fear of impending doom could easily sway a large number of people.

Couple of potential cults:

-The Transcendence Movement: They believe the Angels are messengers of God and seek to help the heralds. While a lot of them spend their time in harmless prayer and emonstration, some of the more extreme members have smuggled out "Sacred Mana" aka Angel Flesh for their brothers to consume in rituals. The effects of consuming the flesh could have any number of side effects.

-The Archangels at the Gate: Cultists that believe the pilot are the chosen avatars of humanity. Some of them go to the school and actively worshp the pilots, while others build temple with visages of Units 00, 01, and 02 adorning the walls. Some of the younger cultists might even seek to thank the pilots in a manner most teens would find appealing.

-The Apocalypsians: The World is going to end, and to fight against that only means humanity will suffer more in the meantime. They do everything they can to hinder NERV and let the Angels finish the job they started 15 years ago.

-The Conspiracists: Angels are just giant robots using technology developed by Doctor Katsuragi meant to keep humanity in check so the megacorporations can take advantage to create a commercialized distopia.

I could probably cook up a few more given some time, and half a dozen varieties base

Expanding on the Transcendence Movement, what do you think the effects of consuming Angel flesh would be? Would it have no noticable due to the high similarity to human meat, would it cause a Mad Cow like disease, or would it start to corrupt people into quasi-angels? Could make for an interesting story.
 
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