Digimon GOSPEL

Ryuugi

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#51
Daneel Rush said:
Not just that disappeared. Weird. Maybe someone's trying to give me a hint here.

EDIT: Ok, restored the work of the past two days. Unfortunately, some of the pages I had written two years ago also disappeared (Aeternal, Agenda, Angel), and I didn't make hard copies of those, so they're gone for good. I'll have to rewrite those...at some point.

Also, I added the Archdemon page to the "Terminology" section.
I just noticed some other weird stuff. Those pages are back:

http://drgospel.pbworks.com/Aeternal

http://drgospel.pbworks.com/Angel

http://drgospel.pbworks.com/Agenda

Did you rewrite them Daneel?
 

kitsuneb

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#52
Ryuugi said:
Matsuki Takato
ôThe Alpha and the Omega; Primum Mobile; Lord of All That Was, Is, and Will Be; Tzimzum, The Great Father; The Primordial Man; Anthropos; Ha-Rishon; Systema Sephiroticum; Architect of Boundaries; Shaper of Reality; Patriarch of Heaven; The Infinite Being; Systemic SovereignàOnii-chan.ö
The primary protagonist of GOSPEL; the glory of God fills the world with hope and brightnessà


The Triune, Rachel
ôThe proud trinity, bound by infinite love.ö
Lilith, Sophia & Shekinah, the three wives of Adam Kadmon, and main characters of GOSPEL.


The Ten Archangels
ôThe radiant leaders of the Army of Heaven, stalwart protectors of Balance.ö
Matsuki TakatoÆs foremost allies and the main focus of Books 1-6.


The Ten Archdemons
ôThe wicked leaders of the Hordes of Hell, harbingers of Chaos and destruction and vile shadows of the Archangels.ö
Antitheses of the Archangels and their most dangerous opponents. Moloch was introduced as early as Book One, and the others appeared in Books Four and Five. They are all defeated in Book Six, ôThe Day of Revelation.ö


The Heavenly Host
ôThose among the Incarnated Divinities and Aeternals who were smart enough to pick onii-chanÆs and my side.ö
Incarnated characters that fought alongside Takato in the Last Holy War.


The Hellish Horde
ôLosers. Agenda-hungry losers, the whole lot of them.ö
Incarnated characters who challenged the Army of Heaven during the Last Holy War.


The Next Generation
ôThe war was over, but there were still some loose ends...those were painful timesàfor all of us.ö
Nonaka Arisu, Minami Kotoko & Yumemiya Lillia, the main characters of Book Seven, ôPromise of the Setting Sun.ö


The Demonic Revolution
ôAmbition is worthless without the power to make it reality.ö
Samael, the Father of Demons, and his servants; the antagonists of Book Seven, ôPromise of the Setting Sun.ö


Other Characters
ôCannon fodder.ö
I will never get used to Takako's self-centeredness. No wonder even Arisu started being weary of her...there's just something that gives me chills. Everytime I see her speech, it makes me feel I am looking at a gothic lolita version of Gendo Ikari.
 

Ryuugi

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#53
kitsuneb said:
Ryuugi said:
Matsuki Takato
ôThe Alpha and the Omega; Primum Mobile; Lord of All That Was, Is, and Will Be; Tzimzum, The Great Father; The Primordial Man; Anthropos; Ha-Rishon; Systema Sephiroticum; Architect of Boundaries; Shaper of Reality; Patriarch of Heaven; The Infinite Being; Systemic SovereignàOnii-chan.ö
The primary protagonist of GOSPEL; the glory of God fills the world with hope and brightnessà


The Triune, Rachel
ôThe proud trinity, bound by infinite love.ö
Lilith, Sophia & Shekinah, the three wives of Adam Kadmon, and main characters of GOSPEL.


The Ten Archangels
ôThe radiant leaders of the Army of Heaven, stalwart protectors of Balance.ö
Matsuki TakatoÆs foremost allies and the main focus of Books 1-6.


The Ten Archdemons
ôThe wicked leaders of the Hordes of Hell, harbingers of Chaos and destruction and vile shadows of the Archangels.ö
Antitheses of the Archangels and their most dangerous opponents. Moloch was introduced as early as Book One, and the others appeared in Books Four and Five. They are all defeated in Book Six, ôThe Day of Revelation.ö


The Heavenly Host
ôThose among the Incarnated Divinities and Aeternals who were smart enough to pick onii-chanÆs and my side.ö
Incarnated characters that fought alongside Takato in the Last Holy War.


The Hellish Horde
ôLosers. Agenda-hungry losers, the whole lot of them.ö
Incarnated characters who challenged the Army of Heaven during the Last Holy War.


The Next Generation
ôThe war was over, but there were still some loose ends...those were painful timesàfor all of us.ö
Nonaka Arisu, Minami Kotoko & Yumemiya Lillia, the main characters of Book Seven, ôPromise of the Setting Sun.ö


The Demonic Revolution
ôAmbition is worthless without the power to make it reality.ö
Samael, the Father of Demons, and his servants; the antagonists of Book Seven, ôPromise of the Setting Sun.ö


Other Characters
ôCannon fodder.ö
I will never get used to Takako's self-centeredness. No wonder even Arisu started being weary of her...there's just something that gives me chills. Everytime I see her speech, it makes me feel I am looking at a gothic lolita version of Gendo Ikari.
Pretty sure the reason Arisu became weary was the rape thing.

As for how she talks, well, you must admit, she's telling the truth. All the Non-Supernals are basically Cannon fodder. Seriously, on the high end we have Takato who destroyed a Universe and remade it out of nothing, over which he now rules as a literal God. But hell, even on the lower end, DC can use what is basically a super-nuke, when ever he needs to, screw with the Laws of Thermodynamics, and shoot through Dimensions.

Normal humans in that fight aren't bring knifes to gun fights. They're bringing squirt guns into a Nuclear War. They are at most Cannon fodder (Actually, I wouldn't give that title to any of them except the ones with Digimon; those without are less then cannon fodder).

Unless that's not what your talking about.
 

kitsuneb

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#54
No, i can understand calling the non-supernals cannon fodder, it's her overall speech patterns that bug me. She's like some freaky mix between Rei Ayanami and almost all other anime girls with a big brother complex...and then there's the incident involving her and DC and well...
 

Aarik

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#55
Hence why I got fed up with her, I honestly felt like the Author had gotten her titles mixed up with Takato <s>half the time</s> whenever she was in the story.

One of her power's is she can trick all of creation into thinking she is anyone, allowing her the ability to use anything she pleases as her's.

Presumably, including Reality Scripts.

Her complete and total End, including the complete and permanent cessation of her existence in it's entirety would have raised the series 5 notches, not including the regaining of the notches she lowered it.

But then, making the biggest available Loli an Omnipotent God is one of his writing habit's.

Takako just take's it way to far.
 

Ryuugi

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#56
Aarik said:
Hence why I got fed up with her, I honestly felt like the Author had gotten her titles mixed up with Takato <s>half the time</s> whenever she was in the story.

One of her power's is she can trick all of creation into thinking she is anyone, allowing her the ability to use anything she pleases as her's.

Presumably, including Reality Scripts.

Her complete and total End, including the complete and permanent cessation of her existence in it's entirety would have raised the series 5 notches, not including the regaining of the notches she lowered it.

But then, making the biggest available Loli an Omnipotent God is one of his writing habit's.

Takako just take's it way to far.
Reality Scripts specifically cnnot be used by anyone except the person the belong two, hence Takako's envy of Takato's Reality Script. She also can't use the powers of anyone stronger then her.

So really, it's not that good of an ability. The only powers she can copy are the non-RS's of those weaker then herself, ie. the people she would have effortlessly crushed anyway.

But then, I like Takako.

Also, neither Takako nor Sayuri can be considered 'Omnipotent Gods' given the restrictions on both, the numerous character flaws they have, and the people nearby who can hold them in check.
 

Ryuugi

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#58
Back to the Topic of Omnivice Traits. I've finally finished Silent Sorrow again, and am now on Gospel 00. Quite a bit of useful info is revealed in Chapter One, and not just about Maria:

Goddramon fixed his gaze on the short girl standing before him. Despite of her lack of respect towards her superiors, she was his finest creation, at least thatÆs what he thought. She lacked AylaÆs innate strategic ability or HelenaÆs multi-tasking skills, or even MisakiÆs Tracking Range or AstarothÆs Improved Gate System. But Maria was made to reach the absolute balance and optimum performance. And that was because of a single factor.
This supports what I said about Ayla, and reveals the first useful information about Helena. Helena can multitask really well, it seems, which I presume would be useful for an Archangel with Perpetuality as an Agenda. Misaki has a great Tracking Range, probably to backup Jeri's ability as a Support-based Archangel. As the Medic, knowing where both her allies and enemies are has obvious advantages. And of course, Ryo being Ryo, Astaroth's improved Gate System makes a lot of sense.

As for Maria, I'm honestly a bit confused. I like Maria, but I'm forced to agree with Rika on this subject; she's basically useless. Being an all rounder is good, to a point, but that point is when your allies have all their bases covered. Maria way have a better then average Gates, Tracking, Multitasking, and Strategy (and I question those last two), but Astaroth, Misaki, Ayla, and Helena are all better then her at their specific areas. And while one might say 'what about when your not working with your team'? But the answer to that is 'why the hell aren't you'. Working together is sort of what teams do. In addition, the Omnivices can message each other, so being seperated isn't an issue.

And that's ignoring Takako, Luna, Ruki, and (eventually) Shinobu.

However, the real problem is Maria's personality. I have no idea what Goddramon was thinking, making a female-Takato and then giving her to Rika. Especially after Takato's 'death'. Did he not see the obvious flaws in that plan? Before they got together, Takato and Rika weren't exactly famous for their ability to work together. And Rika's sure not going to accept Maria as a new Takato just because they look alike. That's not how Love or Humans work.
 

Daneel Rush

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#59
Ryuugi said:
Sorry for the triple post.

We know that the Aspects came into being in a certain order. The twins, triplets, and Sophia. I have several questions about this.
Answering time!

When did Micael come into existence?
On the year 25 BC of the Gregorian calendar. They use different means to measure time in the Supernal Realms, so I have to specify.

How far apart were the births of the Aspects? We know from what Takako said in the last chapter of Ruby Ring that 'For a very long time, it would be just the two of them.' How long were Adam and Lilith alone?
Quite a bit. The Triplets were born about 5.2 billion years after Adam and Lilith, and Sophia about 3.5 billion years later.

Do any of their children predate the other Aspects?
No. When Takako said "alone", she really meant it. In fact, the Angels of Prostitution were born AFTER Adam fathered his share of children with Shekinah and his horde of children with Sophia.

And speaking of Aspects, we know very little about Shekinah.
I am aware of this. Shekinah would not have really come to the forefront until the last two Books.

While I will save most of the info on Shekinah until the day I post her bio, I'll remind you of the basic facts.

Just like Lilith represents passion, lust and the physical aspect of a relationship, and Sophia represents romance, courting and the beginning of a relationship, Shekinah represents a lasting bond, matrimony and attachment. Most unfortunately, she may also represent the quintessential love-slayer: routine.

She's a fine complement to the other two. Unfortunately, Sophia, with all her wisdom, is way too submissive before Adam. Lilith does whatever the hell she wants. Shekinah is affectionate and stern. She's a voice of reason who keeps the other members of her strange family under tabs.

Of course, she's beyond beautiful. Lilith embodies sex-appeal. Sophia embodies cuteness. Shekinah represents the beauty of a mature, motherly woman blessed with boundless love. We could say she's the MILF to top all MILFs.

As we saw in True Stories, when she has to get rough she prefers close combat. Her power output in melee can surpass Adam's. However, she's tremendously weak in ranged combat (at least comparing her to her husband and fellow wives).

Her level is 94, just like her brothers.

Under Pandora's Box:

QUOTE
Range: A cubical volume of up to 1Æ000.000.000 cubic meters.

Could you clarify this? I assume you mean 1,000,000,000 cubic meters, but I want to make sure.
Yeah, that's what I meant. It's fixed now.

Under Belphegor:

QUOTE
Misanthropic Lord of the Opening

He/she is mentioned as a Lord in this section and a Lady in the other. I honestly don't know which is correct though.
Both titles are correct. Belphegor is a female, though.

You often use the word 'ignore' in places where I think you mean 'do not know about or of'. Is that intentional?
I do it because that's what it means in Spanish (my native language), French and pre-19th century English. It's a bad habit of mine.

Haa, Takako. The original overpowered loli.

I will admit, loliness aside, I like Takako a lot and still find her my best OC. I like her as a character. I like her contribution to the character dynamics, her unlimited selfishness and her self-centered attitude. I think we all have that person in our lives who we don't really like at all but are forced to interact with regularly for whatever reason. Takako is that person.

Even after her powers are limited by the Aspect Seal (which was going to happen, like, two chapters after the point where I stopped), her contribution to the Archangels is immense. I always purposely wrote Takako to be as annoying as possible. When she shines, though, she really shines.

If I had gone ahead and continued writing GOSPEL, I would have hoped the readers would grow to like her with time, as they come to terms with her back story and realize the depth of her misery. I would have hoped that, in the end, you would have grown to love Takako, too. To admire her as a Big Bad, and to feel happy for her when she finally finds that most elusive "happy end".

Besides, we all know the real Sue in GOSPEL is Sophia.

P.S: On the topic of the Omnivice Traits, it would take me a while so I'll have to save it for a later occasion.
 

Ryuugi

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#60
Thanks Daneel. Also, kitsuneb, I'm reading Chapter 2 of Gospel 00, where Luna first appears. Nothing about her so far except this:

ôI summon thee, Luna, Priestess of the Moon. You who once tamed the legendary beasts of ancient times, Behemoth and Leviathan, I call for your power.ö
Otherwise, Luna's main purpose seems to be to allow Takako to use her power (remember, Lilith hasn't 'awakened' yet) more easily, much like Ruki after Takato's 'rebirth'.
 

Ryuugi

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#61
Gospel 00, Chapter 3 has quite a bit of information about the Omnivices, as it revolves around Shinobu and Tai.

ôWell, since the original algorithm which governed the Blackpearl is almost completely lost, we have no idea how it will respond now. In other words, you DigiviceÆs personality trait will be completely unpredictable; we have no idea of how she could be.ö

ôWell, we didnÆt know how sheÆd be before, so itÆs the same thing.ö

ôOh, of course we did. The Omnivice automatically selects a personality the Tamer will feel most comfortable with; at the same time it complements the TamerÆs flaws. ThatÆs why TakatoÆs Ruki is so much like both Nonaka Rika and has the voice of Katou Jeri. ThatÆs why KariÆs Ayla is tall and strong, and give a feeling of security Kari will need, been the diehard pacifist she is. ThatÆs why KenÆs Helena is completely different from Yolei, to avoid anyààundesirable situationsààyou know what I mean. In your case, IÆd bet my soul your Omnivice would have acquired a personality similar to a certain Takenouchi Sora.ö
(Also, this is the first information we've gotten on Helena.)

It is said that Omnivices were made to complement the TamerÆs flaws. Matsuki Takato firmly believed that Omnivices served the greater purpose of being the TamerÆs best friend, beyond any relationship the Tamer might have with any other human, for the bond between the Tamer and his Omnivice partner is indestructible. Tai knew that, of course, Shinobu wasnÆt much of a complement to his flaws, so he firmly inclined to the second concept.
 

Ryuugi

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#62
Hey, Daneel, I just finished Chapter 4 of Gospel 00 and I noticed something that I seem to have missed every other time I read that chapter:

But, really, the whole plot of Gospel centers on Takato, Alice, Rika and Rei. And Takako, and Maria, and Nix, and the Muses, and the other many characters I havenÆt introduced yet! Damn, I have so many things to do!!!! Questions and comments are welcome! And reviews too!!!
Who? We heard about all the others, but not these guys. Would they have been important later?

Also, Chapter 4 had some more information about Helena, kitsuneb:

Ichijouji KenÆs Omnivice partner, granted to him with the Diamond Omnivice during the Daemon War. Gifted with unmatched multi-tasking abilities, she excelled at quick reactions and fast data processing. However, her true capabilities were beyond the machinery power level. The capability to grant KenÆs Mega form additional abilities and her extremely effective Sephiroth Card skill, Chimera Rider Revolution, proved to be valuable assets to the Angelic Army during critical battles like The Battle of the Apex, The Battle of Solaris, The Battle of AsÆQuiloth and, of course, The Battle of Armageddon and The Day of the Revelation. Her competitive personality, always striving to be better, would become her main advantage during the Last Holy War.
Speaking of Omnivice Traits...Daneel, Ayla's Xanadu profile says:

Ayla



Report Number: G-0002-1

Version: B-04

Date: 2032/11/29

Presented by: Takaishi Takeru



Name: Ayla

Current Age: 12

Sex: Female

Current State: Single

Birthdate: 2020/06/03



Ayla was created as the Omnivice Trait for the Pearl Omnivice, belonging to Kamiya Hikari. Her in-battle skills were exceptional, and would be of great help to Hikari in her upcoming battles, especially in the great battle of Necropolis, when she saved Matsuki TakatoÆs life (Read The Battle of Necropolis for more info). However, finding a balance between HikariÆs single mother life and AylaÆs intention of training Hikari for the events to come wasnÆt always an easy thing.
Ayla's name is just 'Ayla'. However, all the other Omnivices traits took the last names of their Masters. Is their a reason Ayla didn't?
 

Ryuugi

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#63
Holy Shi-

The Aspect of God page went up earlier and I didn't even notice! I even checked the Wiki earlier (literally twenty minutes before it went up).

Okay, so, on first glance DC fought Takako, and won. Takako has regular (or at least recent) contact with Shekinah.

But on a more important note, Adam is awesome, and Micael is Adam's Awesome wingman. Also, Lilith, Sophia, and the Universe in general have been made to look like noobs by these two Awesome Bro's.

One thing, though. Isn't Sophia supposed to be Level 100?

I'll check for any spelling mistakes later.

Edit: Oh, and the page in question:

http://drgospel.pbworks.com/Aspect-of-God
 

Ryuugi

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#64
Okay, I'm checking the Aspect page now.

The Origin of Creation, Adam Kadmon:

Should be Tzimtzum, I believe.

Level: 99

Agenda(s): Divinity, Matter, Probability, Souls, Supremacy.
Just to make sure. In The Ruby Ring, when Angel talked about the Adam's Agenda's she didn't mention 'Souls'. Also, will Angel be included at some point?

Not the mightiest, as that title belongs to your truly, but the brightest.
Should be 'yours truly'.

He has no control over it, and lesser beings cannot help but be awed every time he makes act of presence.
Not sure what your trying to say here.

But really, now that we (think we) understand what Adam truly is, what he truly representsà
Not sure what your trying to say here.

In the end, it would be enough if we stick to the first three words I said in this little monologue.
Stuck.

The Dreamer of Creation, Metatron:

Metatron cannot really disconnect his position as Aspect from his position as Lord of Heaven.
'An' Aspect, 'the' Lord of Heaven.

The Blessing of Creation, Sophia:

Chanter of the Perfect Mysteries
This just sounds wrong to me. Maybe remove the 'the'?

However, hers lacked AdamÆs intrinsic property of æSupremacyÆ.
Her's.

Take all the elements together and create something wondrous with them.
Put.

You humans, us Supernals, we can exist and thrive in this Reality, thanks to the will of the Creator!
We.

Also, in the Reality Script section:

Reality Script: Seder Hishtalshelus
Power: N/A

Type: Support

Range: N/A

Maximum Number of Targets: N/A



"Onii-chan's Reality Script. Needless to say, it's awesome. Becuase everything onii-chan does is wonderful (*sigh...*). While shaping matter is not such a big deal (I can do it, even scientists can do it!), the real deal with this technique is the incredible efficiency and ease with which it accomplishes its effect. It's like onii-chan laughs in Einstein's face (nothing personal, Eins, we're cool, remember?). Besides, Seder Hishtalshelus (heck, even the name is awesome!) can do other things besides shaping matter. Cool things."



THE Reality Script. A Reality Script that does precisely that: writes a script on reality, a script that will unfold according to TakatoÆs will. Sefer Hishtalshelus is the ômagicö of creation. ItÆs the combination of the Digital Hazard and TakatoÆs rightful divine powers. TakatoÆs version of the Treasury of Nitocris. While Takako fulfills her needs by reaching into her storage, Takato simply creates what he needs. In theory, Takato can create anything, but heÆs never attempted to create animal or human life. However, there are some things Takato has admitted not even Seder Hishtalshelus can create. He cannot create singularities, for example, nor can he clone divinities or aeternals. He can make copies of Instrumental Weapons (the copies always turn out slightly weaker than their original, though), but he cannot shape Ea, Enlil or Merodach.



However, Seder Hishtalshelus doesnÆt create something out of nothing. TakatoÆs Reality Script transmutes matter and condenses probability. When it seems like things appear out of thin air, itÆs because Takato has used molecules from the atmosphere for his transmutation. Since Sefer Hishtalshelus involves reducing matter to elementary particles and reassembling them into a different form of matter, unparalleled knowledge of science (mainly physics and chemistry) is crucial for the proper use of this technique.



Sefer Hishtalshelus consists of ten stages or ôstations,ö which are:

*

Atzmus Ohr Ein Sof Lifnei Hatzimtzum (The Essence of the Infinite Light Before the Contraction)

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Tzimtzum (Contraction)

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Reshimu (Impression)

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Kav (Measuring Line)

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Ratzon Kadom (Original Desire)

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Adam Kadmon (Original Man)

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Atziluth (World of Emanation)

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Beriah (World of Creation)

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Yetzirah (World of Formation)

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Asiyah (World of Action)



Sefer Hishtalshelus can be used for other things rather than creating matter. It can perform any kind of small-scale alteration of reality, to a similar extent to the Reality Script ôLimited Reality Revision.ö However, unlike the Dual Force, Sefer Hishtalshelus cannot work on any event that already took place. While it can stop an incoming bullet through several means, for example, it cannot stop the mortal wound if it has already being caused.



Incantation: Seder Hishtalshelus does not require an incantation.
Should all be Seder.
 

Ryuugi

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#65
Once again about the Aspect page. I'm curious, while Sophia's technical Level is 98, what is her Power actually equal to? She feeds most of it into her Supernal Structure, right? Or is that going to be covered later?
 

Ryuugi

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#67
Daneel Rush said:
It's not a decrease in level, but a decrease in stats.
Ah, I see.

Oh, by the way. Kitsuneb, I just finished Chapter 5 of Gospel 00, which introduces Astaroth and Misaki...

It really doesn't say much about them, but there is this:

Misaki was originally created as the Omnivice Trait for the Topaz Omnivice, belonging to Katou Jeri. Since the very first moment, it was proved that she wasnÆt made for direct combat managing, her absolute lack of battle strategy capabilities being the most important proof. However, she was gifted with the absolute best defensive capabilities amongst the Omnivice Traits and an unmatched Radar Tracking Range. Such defensive abilities made Jeri become an extremely valuable asset during the Last Holy War, and her heroic actions during The Battle of Armageddon will never be forgottenààincluding the painful consequences of such actions. It could be said that Jeri and Misaki, out of all the Archangels, had it worst during that battle (Read The Battle of Armageddon, Katou Jeri for more info).
And this:

Astaroth was originally the Omnivice Trait assigned to the Sapphire Omnivice, belonging to Akiyama Ryo. Cold and not very expressive, she rarely showed any interest in matters outside the Last Holy War. Her relationship with her Master and the other Archangels was fuzzy and difficult to describe, even though she never hesitated to follow RyoÆs orders, even if she never doubted of expressing her disagreement with some of those orders. On the other side, she seemed to be absolutely devoted to Matsuki Takato. She obeyed his orders faithfully, never denied him a chance to talk to her, and always placed his opinion and safety above everyone elseÆs. This, of course, provoked some discomfort to AstarothÆs Master, which caused some minor skirmishes between Ryo and Takato. Eventually, everything turned out for the best, Ryo and Astaroth became a better team, and her devotion to the mission proved to be critical, and, without exaggerating, life-saving. WeÆll be eternally grateful for AstarothÆs cunning thinking and absolute concern for TakatoÆs wellbeing when nobody else ever considered that he could be in danger.



Her current whereabouts are unknown. Takato claims to have met her several times in the Digital World, though. He also claims he has seen her smile. Such affirmations are yet to be proved.
And that's the last Omnivice related chapter, I believe.
 

Daneel Rush

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#68
I have a proposal to make.

I want the people in this forum who actually read GOSPEL (and I supposed they've checked out this topic by now) to ask questions about the setting. All the questions about the setting you can think of. I said I wanted to give GOSPEL a proper closure (and that will happen), and I want to be as thorough as possible. Even if I never finished it, GOSPEL is and will remain my finest piece of fanfiction, so I want to give it the treatment it deserves.

However, to make it interesting yet simple, here are some "rules".

- Try to pile up all the questions you can think of in a single post. While I don't mind Ryuugi's chain-posting, others might mind. If you post a list of questions and then come up with a new one, either edit the post you just made or wait until you have a new list of questions.

- Try not to direct the questions at me. The characters are perfectly able to talk about themselves and the world they live in...most of the time. Besides, it's not really fun if Takako hogs all the spotlight in the wiki, don't you think? So, ask them! It will be interesting for you and for me.

- Of course, questions about the conception of GOSPEL itself should be addressed to me.

- Try to make the questions as specific and punctual as possible, so that the answers are also short and punctual. Leave the lengthy explanations to the wiki articles.

- 'What if?' questions are both allowed and welcome. By this I mean asking about things that did not happen in GOSPEL, or even scenes you might have wanted to see.

Well then, I'll look forward to what you can come up with. In the meantime I'll make myself busy organizing my notes on Reality Manipulation.
 

Ryuugi

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#69
Daneel Rush said:
I have a proposal to make.

I want the people in this forum who actually read GOSPEL (and I supposed they've checked out this topic by now) to ask questions about the setting. All the questions about the setting you can think of. I said I wanted to give GOSPEL a proper closure (and that will happen), and I want to be as thorough as possible. Even if I never finished it, GOSPEL is and will remain my finest piece of fanfiction, so I want to give it the treatment it deserves.

However, to make it interesting yet simple, here are some "rules".

- Try to pile up all the questions you can think of in a single post. While I don't mind Ryuugi's chain-posting, others might mind. If you post a list of questions and then come up with a new one, either edit the post you just made or wait until you have a new list of questions.

- Try not to direct the questions at me. The characters are perfectly able to talk about themselves and the world they live in...most of the time. Besides, it's not really fun if Takako hogs all the spotlight in the wiki, don't you think? So, ask them! It will be interesting for you and for me.

- Of course, questions about the conception of GOSPEL itself should be addressed to me.

- Try to make the questions as specific and punctual as possible, so that the answers are also short and punctual. Leave the lengthy explanations to the wiki articles.

- 'What if?' questions are both allowed and welcome. By this I mean asking about things that did not happen in GOSPEL, or even scenes you might have wanted to see.

Well then, I'll look forward to what you can come up with. In the meantime I'll make myself busy organizing my notes on Reality Manipulation.
About how many Supernals would you say there are?

About how many are Divinities and how many are Aeternals?

The word Aeterna means 'the eternal' in Latin. Is that the origin of the name Aeternal?

What is the average Level of each type of Supernal?

About how strong (ie. what level would a Supernal who only had that one be) are some Agenda's? For example, Boundaries, Reality, Conflict, Love, Unity, etc.

How do Levels relate to each other within the same group? That is, about how much stronger is, say, Adam (99) then Lilith (96), raw powerwise? What about a Level 1 and a Level 2?

What about outside the group? Ie. a 76 to a 75?

How well known are the Aspects, Archdemons, and Archangels in the Supernal Realm? What are the common opinions of them?

What would the Holy Wars have looked like without the Absolute Treaty and the Aspect Seal?

What would the Universe be like if Adam had combined the Supernal Structures instead of Sophia?

What would it be like if Moloch was a good guy?

What if all the Archdemons were good guys?

What if the Original Sin never happened?

How would the Universe change if all Supernals kept their memories while Incarnated?

How would, say, Rika's (and Kamael's) feelings towards Takato (her father and boss) change if so?

What about Jeri's (Michael's) feels for Henry?

What if instead of three wives, there had been one, like Takako wondered in Adam's write up?

What do you, yourself, think of the Archdemons, who we never saw?

How do the Archdemons get along with each other (since most of them are brothers and sisters)?

What about the Archangels?

What do Moloch and Metatron think of their underlings?

What were Lilith's first thoughts of her sisters?

What were her first thoughts about Adam?

What we Shekinah's?

What were Sophia's?

What did Adam first think about his wives?

Who was Adam's first child? I assume Michael, as he's Shekinah's first born.

What were Adam's first thoughts about his son?

What does Adam think of his children who've Fallen?

How does Adam usually fight (before the Seal and Takato)?

What about Metatron?

Moloch?

Takato?

Of his children, who is Adam most proud of?

Who is Adam's best friend?

Who is Metatron closest to?

Does Moloch trust anyone? If so who?

Were Moloch's thoughts about his Mother ever different?

What did Moloch think of his Father?

What is your favorite Instrumental Weapon, Daneel?

Who's your favorite Supernal?

If Takako went on a rampage, how much damage could she do?

What about Takato?

Moloch?

What is the upper Limit for Parameters? 99 or 100?

What do ratings like that mean? What could you do with, say, 99 in all stats?

Will add more later.

Edit:

What were Takato�s Nightmares in Gospel 00 about? I assume they were causes by Moloch, as he sent Dreams to that one guy in the Ruby Ring as well.

If so, why did Moloch stop?

Is messing with people�s dreams one of Moloch�s powers?

How did Moloch get along with others before the rebellion?

What are Lucifer�s Agenda�s?

What is his Level?

How did Lucifer and Michael get along before the Fall?

What did Lucifer and Michael think of their parents?

What did they think of the fact that their Father had more than one wife?

Raziel is one of Shekinah�s Children, right?

Raziel once fell in love with Sophia. What did Adam think of that?

You said: �DC�s, Takako�s, Rika�s, Tai�s and TK�s fights, as well as the final battle against Moloch/Satan are actually almost completely written in my computer.� Do you think we could ever see those?

We now know what Moloch and Metatron think of their subordinates. But what do their subordinates think of them?

We now know what the wives first thought when then met Adam. But what did Metatron and Sandalphon first think?

How does Moloch keep Hell under control given how large it is?

What is Samael�s position in Hell relative to Moloch�s?

You once told me Samael isn�t one of Sophia�s children. Who�s child is he? I assume Shekinah.

How strong in Samael?

You said that among the Strongest Supernals, Level didn�t matter so much as other factors. In that case, how would you say the Aspects measure up to each other?

How strong are the Archangels when they work together?

How strong are the Archdemons?

You said that Moloch doesn�t trust Satan. If so, why do they work together so often?

Did Moloch trust anyone prior to his fall?

How strong is Moloch relative to, say, Metatron, since you said he has �reached the limit of what his Agendas allowed him�?

Why hasn�t Moloch taken any other Agendas?

What does Shekinah think of her Sisters?

What does she think of her Brothers?

What are Metatron�s and Moloch�s opinions about each other?

Edit 2:

What was Arisu asking Alice in the Prologue of Gospel 01?

What would change if Adam had been created by Chaos and Lilith by Balance? Assuming their Agenda�s remained the same.

What were the Chosen Children�s reactions when they found that Taichi was still alive?

What were everyone�s reactions when they learnt Takato was alive?

What about when they learnt he was married?

How did Hirokazu cope with the pain from the Hazard?

Each of the Omnivice Traits that we saw Materialize (or Dematerialize in Pauline�s case) had certain special effects. Maria�s was fire, and Pauline disappeared into Cherry Blossoms. What were the other�s?

How do these special effects relate to their owners powers?

Of the Omnivice traits, who was your favorite Daneel?

What was your favorite Dual Force, Daneel?

On the subject of Dual Forces, how strong is Balor? It�s just that I�m rereading Gospel 01 and, frankly, he seems fairly weak.

What do the ranks of the Archdemon�s and Archangel�s mean? I mean, why is, say, Raziel the Third instead of, oh, Raphael? I mean, in character. I know that those are the angel�s and demon associated with those spheres in real life.

Where did Philippan come from?

Where did Sanglamore come from?

In Gospel 01 Chapter 7, Takako calls Kitsune a Hypocrite. Could you explain why? I would understand most insults, but I don�t see any hypocrisy. Takato does the same thing later on, but I don�t understand that either. Same goes for Takako calling the Royal Knight Hypocrites.

Speaking of hypocrisy, why was Takato so upset at Kitsune for creating Digimon? Takato did the same thing. Twice.

Also, everyone in Gospel 01 expressed disgust (or annoyance, or whatever) at the Fake Digimon. Why? I mean, sure, they were nothing but data put together because of a human. But that�s basically what all Digimon are. The only difference is that the Fakes were made intentionally, right?

In Gospel 01, something confused me. The fight between Alice and Rika�isn�t Rika employed by the government? So isn�t it well within her rights to ask question about matters related to Digimon? Especially to suspicious people (Alice) in suspicious places (near where the Mansion was) who have (as far as she knows) multiple Digimon? Alice said she wasn�t a policewoman, but in situations like that isn�t she within her rights to act like one? If not, then how exactly does the position of 'Digimon Tamer' work?

Therefore, didn�t Alice assault, physically and verbally, a government official who was doing her job? As well as threaten her with Dobermon? After she had been wounded in action? I admit to knowing nothing about the Laws in Japan, but�isn�t that illegal or something?

Though�now that I think about it�why didn�t anyone try to stop Alice? I mean, Jeri, Ryo, Kenta, and DC were right there, and only DC knew Alice was Takato�s wife. Were they that tired? Did all them forget all of their Seed of Health (or similar) cards that day? Hell, not even Renamon tried to do anything! Sure, Renamon knows Alice is related in some way to Takato, but doesn�t she usually back Rika up? Why did she just stand around while her (injured) Best Friend was beaten, insulted, and threatened five feet away?

And, on the topic of Alice being upset, why was Alice so upset even after Takato rescued her in 01? She was uninjured, she�d been fed, and the room she was in was probably nicer then her hotel.

In Gospel 02, the fight between Takato, Taichi, and Takeru ends in a draw because of the �energy Takato wasted and the damage he took�. But they were in the Digital World, meaning none of that should matter, right? So why did it?

Edit 3:

Why did Takato deliberately weaken himself in Gospel 01 (with the self-seal)? He was aware that he was going to fight a War for the Future of Existence Itself. Why would he weaken himself? Isn�t it more logical to be, well, as strong as possible?

What did Mimi think when she learnt about Moloch?

What would have happened if Moloch hadn�t been separated from Mimi before birth?

How did the Deus Mainframe inspire the word �mainframe�?

Can you tell us a bit more about the Nephilim?

Was Ruki always an Incarnation of Lucifer, or did she become one after Takato�s death?

In �The Ruby Ring�, Ruki is said to have sixth, seventh, and eight senses. What are those senses?

In �The Ruby Ring�, you said Supernals don�t always incarnate into humans like themselves, due to the complexities of the future and it�s interactions with human personalities. What happens when this occurs? What happens when, say, Moloch incarnates into a Saint, or Tzadkiel into a murderer, or something like that?

It was stated that before the current �batch� of Universes (is Reality Cluster the word?) the Higher Entity created other Universes. What are those Universes like? I assume they are very different, as they had no Supernal Structures to order them.

Was life able to develop in those Universes?

What about Supernal Entities?

Does Takako have a Human Soul?

To what degree does Gabriel influence Takako�s personality as a whole? It seems to vary from �True Stories� to �The Ruby Ring�.

In the Ruby Ring, why was Takako bothered by hitting her head on her dressing table? I mean, we�ve seen her get hit by Digimon, so that should be nothing. And even if it was something, why didn�t she just stop herself? I mean, she�s fast enough to dodge thousands of different attacks, from different direction, and remain completely unharmed.

Can you tell us about Isaac Tong?

What about Chie? I assume she�s Sophia, but we know Sophia�s in the Higher Realms at that point. Is she some type of possession, or something similar?

In �The Ruby Ring�, Takako thinks this:
�Takako never included Shekinah in that trail of thought. The second wife had always showed an admirable streak of��independence, compared to Lilith and Sophia. Shekinah didn�t cling to Adam the way the other two wives did. She was a voice of reason and responsibility when Sophia lost herself in her own mellow-mellow romantic fantasies. But Lilith would never go as far as to say Shekinah loved Adam the least. She still remembered the incredible aura of fury Shekinah irradiated when she did as little as imply that Shekinah�s love was lacking. That was when Lilith truly understood the whole �three aspects of love� thing the three wives were supposed to represent. Shekinah loved Adam as much as the other two, she only displayed in her own way (a way Lilith couldn�t possibly understand, being the sex kitten she is).�
Can you tell us about the time Lilith questioned Shekinah�s love? Like, when did it happen? And what were everyone�s reactions?
In �The Ruby Ring�, they talked about Sophia�s burden. Are they talking about the Agenda of Suffering?

Speaking of the Agenda of Suffering, it says in the timeline that Sophia took it secretly. Did anyone else eventually learn that she had taken it?

If so, then what did they think?

If not, then what would, say, Adam and Lilith think if they had found out?

Takako said that Lilith had never seen the Central Sphere, whereas Sophia had. Did any of the other Aspects see the sphere? If yes, why only some of them, and not all of them? If no, why not?

Takako said Lilith was aware of Project ADAM in her previous incarnation. Can you tell us about that Incarnation?

Speaking of Project ADAM, well, Takato said it best:

�Where does the Holy War enter this whole deal? How did Supernals get involved?�

What would happen if �Gennai�s� plan had succeeded, and Chaos had been Millenniumon�s Tamer?

Edit 4:


In True Stories Henry and Ryo have the following exchange:

����damn you, Akiyama Ryo.� Henry muttered.
�Hey, I�m just stating a fact!�
����that�s not what I meant.� Henry stated before standing up to take the empty plates to the kitchen.

Could you explain this?

In True Stories 02, it was said the creator of Project Adam (Millenniumon?) was powerful enough to deserve the title �divinity�. Is He a Supernal? If so, what type (the difference between Divinities and Aeternals wasn�t mentioned until later in the Chapter)? I�d assume a Singularity and thus an Aeternal.

Concerning Supernals, how relevant are the �Associations� listed in their profiles (such as Sandalphon�s �The Kabalistic s�fira Malkuth (Shekkinah), mirrors, roses, the Sabbat�)?

As Arisu asked in True Stories 03, is the offspring of an aeternal always an aeternal? Are they more likely to be? Why?

In True Stories 03, Absolutes are listed as beings between level 76 and 99. But Takato is a level 100. Is he still and Absolute? If not, what is he?

Who added the notes in True Stories 03?

How many of the Archangels managed to break the 10000 damage barrier by themselves?

What is BlackTerriermon? A Singularity, digital mutation, or something else?

Did Takako create BlackTerriermon?

Did she arrange for him to meet DC?

In True Stories 05, the topic of Ruki�s love-life while Takato was gone is mentioned in passing. Could you go into more detail?

In the same Chapter, Takako says:

Takako chuckled. �Okay. Not that I�d have wanted to be the mother.�

Could you explain this? Did something happen during the course of Rika pregnancy?

What does Takako think of Chaos?

What is your favorite Dual Force, Daneel?

Did Cain and Abel exist in Gospel?

What�s an O/R Chamber (it was stated that Rika was in one in True Stories 06)?

Can you tell us a bit more about Reality Protocols?

Can you give us some examples of Takato�s, Takako�s, and Moloch�s?

What are the Pnakotic Manuscripts?

In True Stories 06, it was said that Innate Format Algorithms was the official name for Digimon Techniques, but doesn�t mention Supernals. Am I correct in assuming it applies to their techniques as well?

On the same note, it says �they only can either inflict harm or protect from it�. Am I correct in assuming that, despite this, Healing and Support techniques are also Innate Format Algorithms?

It says that Introspective Resonance Pseudo-Protocols are unique to the Archangels. Can you explain why?

It was stated that MagnaAngemon�s Excalibur was a weaker version of the actual Excalibur (which belongs to Ken, I believe). Does the same apply to Gallantmon Gram and Aegis, Crimson Modes Gungnir and Bluntgang, and other Digimon weapons?

Given the amount of Energy required to use them, how long can Sophia, Lilith, and Moloch maintain their Reality Scripts?

What are the purposes of the different �G-Teams�?

What relationship did Lilith have with Micael?

What do the colors of Takato�s and Takako�s eyes indicate?

Why does Takato dislike Takako�s telepathy?

Why does Arisu prefer not to invite her friends to her house?

Is a Divinities power determined by its Agenda�s, its worship, or both? I know a Divinity is weak without worship, but can it be stronger then its Agenda�s would allow if it had enough worship?

True Stories 09 says Taichi has five Agenda�s (Beauty, Harmony, Healing, Life, and Retribution). The write-up on the wiki adds three more (Happiness, Health, and Satisfaction). Did you decide to add them later on, Daneel?

This one is a continuation of a previous question (About how strong (�ie. what level would a Supernal who only had that one be) are some Agenda's? For example, Boundaries, Reality, Conflict, Love, Unity, etc.�). What rating would you give these Agenda�s from True Stories 09?

�The most powerful Agenda is Supremacy. The definition of �the best of the best� itself possesses the greatest power. Adam Kadmon possesses the Agenda of Supremacy.�
(�After that come the fundamental concepts of reality: Divinity, Mortality, Existence, Inexistence, Time, Space, *Reality*, *Unity*, Duality, Multiplicity, Numbers, Probability, you catch my drift.�
�Then we�d have some more��let�s say���tangible� Agendas: Life, Death and *Matter*.�
�Emotions also make powerful Agendas: *Love*, Hate, Kindness, Anger, Fury, Envy, Desire, Lust���
�We also have positive and negative attributes: Wisdom, Understanding, Splendor, Patience, Brightness, Ignorance���)

I marked off the ones you commented on already.

How strong would the Agenda of Entropy be?

What about Beginnings and Endings?

Micael has the Agenda of Consecration, which I didn�t understand as powerful until some thought. But that train of thought brought me to this: How strong would the Agenda of Desecration be?

What is with Astaroth? She was in the Digital World with Takato, and then she had a room in the Nonaka Complex, and then she helped Takako name those cities.

Can you explain the names of the UN Cities? Especially, Ora?de Meucopii.

What type of things does Takako lecture about at UN Tokyo University?

Takato�s Insignia is �Bounded Field�. Metatron�s are �Dictums�. What are Adam�s?

What about Sophia�s?

What about the Archangels (minus Taichi�s Mantras)?

The Archdemons?

What is your favorite Insignia, Daneel?

In True Stories 11, it was stated that Shinobu was the third oldest Omnivice. How can that be, when she was born fifth?

Everyone knows that Takako can dance her way through pretty much any type of attack that has even the slightest room to dodge within. As such, why do people keep banging their heads against the wall of futility that is using such attacks on her, and not just use solid waves of whatever they use to attack (or at least not leave human sized gaps)? Sure, that plan will just run into her shield and die a horrible death, but still. It at least means she can�t ignore you utterly.

When did the people with Reality Scripts (Lilith, Sophia, Adam, Nitocris, and Moloch) develop them (I�m excluding Taichi, as he didn�t consciously create his, from what I understand)?

Can you tell us about Lilith�s and Sophia�s first meeting in the Supernal Realms?

What about in the Lower Realms?

What were Moloch�s plans for Carthage?

How often do Sophia�s demonic children catch up to her while she�s incarnated?

What would have happened if Adam had been chosen as the Arbiter of the Last Holy War?

What are the characteristics of Divine Arts?

Demon Arts?

Forbidden Arts?

Seals?

What are Ea and the Gates of Atziluth made of?

Sophia summoned two Supernal Structures in True Stories 14, and we saw what they looked like. What do the others look like?

Can you tell us about Sophia and Lilith�s first fight? We know Sophia won, but nothing else.

(At Daneel) It�s not on the timeline. Is there any particular reason? Is it simply not important enough?

Why does Shekinah Reality Script render a re-sealing unnecessary?

How powerful are Kyuubi and Nibi in Gospel?

Why did Lilith take an insult from Nibi in True Stories 15? I would have thought she�d smite her, or at least electrocute her like she did Taichi in Gospel 01.

Who were the Arbiters of the previous Holy Wars?

Why does the lifespan of Lilith�s Incarnation�s keep getting longer?
 

Daneel Rush

Well-Known Member
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The first issue of RAKSHA_SPHIIRA is at http://drgospel.pbworks.com/Issue-01.

I'll try to make the next one a bit funnier...and I had forgotten just how unbelievably insane Reality Code was. God damn it, what was I smoking?

P.S. Thank God for online Sanskrit dictionaries.
 
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