Harry Potter [Harry Potter]Miscellaneous ideas topic.

chronodekar

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Shirotsume said:
Nice, that would make sense. I would imagine the one in the diary would be goodwill or generosity or something.
I'm looking forward to reading this now!

-chronodekar
 
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chronodekar said:
Shirotsume said:
Nice, that would make sense. I would imagine the one in the diary would be goodwill or generosity or something.
I'm looking forward to reading this now!

-chronodekar
Oh, yes. In that context, the diary horcrux would probably start teaching Ginny useful things, rather than trying to open the Chamber, while the scar horcrux might help Harry understand the people around him better (perhaps leading to Harry having more friends; probably not Malfoy, though).
 

zerohour

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Two ideas:

Doesn't Give a Damn Dumbledore:

Dumbledore is tired.  He defeated a Dark Lord, he was the beacon of hope when Voldemort first appeared, and after his miraculous disappearance, everyone was clambering for him to take the reigns.

And people keep on asking for more.  They want him to run the whole of Wizarding Britain, be the liason  to the greater wizarding world, and run a damn school at the same time.
So he decides, fuck it.  He's done with the wizarding world, even if they won't leave him alone.  He's going to do what he wants until they finally let him retire, or he dies.  

So Dumbledore runs the school like his own personal amusement park, and any sort of legislature he has to deal with he does whatever will cause the most chaos.  Sadly, his
reputation means that they either brush it off as Dumbledore being Dumbledore, or he sees something else no one else does, and it's brilliant beyond words.
I just like the idea of something like this appearing at the end of the first book:

"Fuck wizards Harry."

"I beg your pardon?" Harry asked the Headmaster.

"I'm serious, fuck them right up the ass."

"I'm afraid I don't really understand sir."

"Seriously, I put a ravenous beast in the castle, with no safe guards aside from a warning that it would result in your death, and a rusty old lock.  What kind of parent just accepts something like that?  Not only that, but I was deliberately baiting the greatest threat to Magical Britain since Grindelwald to come into a place, and no one says a word!  The teachers all went along with it as a great and clever idea!  I expected Professor Sprout to say SOMETHING about endangering students liek that, but not even a peep!"

"I've hired a known Death Eater to teach children, and they think it's fine!  I let Snape get away with almost anything, and no one says a word!  I'm staring to think the only option is to let students start dying, or at .least getting maimed.  Maybe I should hire Hagrid as a teacher.  He doesn't seem to understand the idea of dangerous animals..." Dumbledore trailed off.

"Hagrid's not... that bad." Harry tried to defend his friend, but a look from Dumbledore told him it was futile.  The Headmaster was more than aware of Hagrid's proclivities.

"I just want to retire, but every time I mention it, everyone starts freaking out.  They keep saying they can't manage without me, that I'm the only thing keeping things in order, and won't let me get a word in edgewise!" Dumbeldore groaned.

"I've disappeared three times in the last ten years, just up and left, hiding behind the best wards I could find, and they STILL won't leave me alone!  They always track me down, and beg me to return until I can't stand it any more!  Even being stuck here is better, because I get at least a modicum of peace and quiet!"

"I'm sorry sir."

"Harry my boy, you will have it just as bad, if not worse.  Why do you think I left you with relatives that hate magic?  If I left you with some wizarding family, you'd be drowned in fan mail on a daily basis.  You'd never know a moment's peace!" Dumbeldore said, his voice grim.

"Couldn't you have left me at an orpahage then?" Harry asked.

"I could have, but I knew your relatives were bastards.  I was hoping Arabella would go to the press about the terrible conditions you were raised in and I would get sacked, but she assumed it was for the greater good or some such stupidity."

"Arabella, you mean Mrs. Figg?"

"Seriously, if anything crazy like this happens again next year, just fake your death.  It's better than the amount of bullshit you'll have to put up with for the rest of your life." Dumbeldore said, his eyes losing their customary twinkle. "Promise me Harry, perhaps at least one of us can get out of this living hell!"

Harry nodded, not sure what else to do.  Perhaps the wizarding world wasn't as great as he thought it was.  He had been nearly killed half a dozen times this year, and everyone seemed to accept it.   Maybe he would be better off on his own, it wasn't liek he couldn't afford it.

Evil Founders:

The Founders were Pragmatic Evil.

Hufflepuff: Was the actual anti-muggle member of the founders, wanting to join all of wizardkind together so they could avoid the muggles until they were ready to exterminate them.

Ravenclaw: Wanted the opportunity to conduct research without worrying about morality, collateral damage, and the death of idiots.  All just necessary sacrifices on the road of knowledge, especially those muggles that Helgha hated so much..

Slytherin: Probably the leader of the four, he wanted to unite all of the wizarding world under his rule, forging an empire of unsurpassed power, that all magical life would bow down before.

Gryffindor: Wanted the opportunity to test his mettle against worthy opponents, even if he had to train them up himself.  Also an opportunity to explore the power of more devastating war magic, the kind that would be used to raze unsuspecting towns and villages.

The school was conceived so they would have a base of operations, ready recruits, and an opportunity to shape the wizarding world without being too overt about it. 


Of course, running an academy of evil probably upset a few people along the way, like Merlin for instance.  Rather than let their ambitions be crushed, they decided on a fall guy.  Slytherin drew the short straw, and the rest of them tarnished his name, claiming all sorts of deception, manipulation and the like to preserve Hogwarts, all the while making sure his legacy, the Chamber of Secrets was preserved.  Rumors of it were spread around so they would have a ready source of explanation for any evil happening in their school, it was probably some Slytherin legacy!

As the other founders aged, they probably built their own versions of the Chambers, ready for the person with the rigth mindset to continue their work.

Thoughts?
 

chronodekar

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That's a FASCINATING idea! Hmm.. let me stew in it for a bit and possibly write something too...

-chronodekar
 

da_fox2279

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I like the idea of Evil Founders, with the truth of their personalities getting warped over time. Neat idea.

I have read a couple of fics that had Hufflepuff, Ravenclaw, and Gryffendor build their own private areas/rooms like Slytheryn, but very few were done well.
 
Have read some stories that claim they have this Dumbledore idea, but they don't go much farther than him ignoring everything Harry does using this as the "because".
 
He hated the sky.

He hated the sky because the sky tormented him, always unleashing the weather that he didn't want.

He hated the sky, because it was oppressive and uncaring.

He hated the sky, but indoors was no better. Indoors he was unwelcome and unwanted. He knew this and had known it for years.

His parents didn't love him. There was no overt hostility, but the disgust was so thick that it passed for much the same thing.

His younger sister didn't love him either. She was contemptuous and that was much, much worse than what he knew his parents felt.

He had grown up knowing these facts. The time was fast approaching when he could leave, and he looked forward to it with absolute yearning. Even the house didn't want him around.

Squibs were unwelcome and unwanted. In Darker families they were killed without their existence ever coming to light; his family was not that dark, but they were still Pure Blood.

His parents had not killed him, but they barely tolerated his existence and the time was fast approaching when he would vanish. Exile into the Muggle world; permanent unless one day he sired a Magical child. Even then, only his child would really be welcomed back, slim as the odds were that he would sire one. They were definitely slim odds since he had a sister and since his sister was Magical, her future children would be Magical born from Magical. An uninterrupted line, just like all the other families of Pure Blood.

He knew the date of his imminent exile: the twenty-seventh of March, in the year 1977. His seventeenth birthday.

It was less than a year away now. Less than a year until he was of age and vanished.

Until then, he would spend his free hours on the expansive lawn behind the manor, staring up at the sky and hating it with everything in his heart.
What do you all think of this? This is something I originally wrote almost six years ago but revised a little this morning.
 
Hm... Trying to figure out the meaning of the date of birth. The closest I found is that there was a solar eclipse that day.
 
:headbanger: 
You're way off if you think that piece of trivia is relevant to anything.

Seriously, the idea should not be that hard to understand! :headbanger:
 
Some squib born from a "light" family leaves his home around 13 years before Harry is born, thus 23-24 before the series begins... Meaning that at first year he would have around 40 years...
So... What is the story about then? Because... I really think I missed the point.
 
I think it's just a Vignette.

Not sure it should be posted in a miscellaneous ideas topic though, as snippets of ideas for larger fics are frequently posted here.


nuclear death frog said:
:headbanger:
You're way off if you think that piece of trivia is relevant to anything.

Seriously, the idea should not be that hard to understand! :headbanger:
...Or maybe not.
 
For fuck's sake. The idea is that James Potter was a squib, okay? Geez. His birth-date was March 27, 1960, as matches the snippet, and although he didn't have a younger sister (this was artistic license) it was well before Rowling debunked on her website the idea that James' parents were Charlus Potter and Dorea Black.

I do not think it should have been that hard to figure out.
 
I looked for the date online, and I said all I could find was that eclipse. You saying it was unrelated made me think you meant the date and not the eclipse.

In other words, you did not explain yourself well enough, and your attempt to do so threw me away from the idea you really wanted to convey.
 
Why in the shit would I know James Potter's DoB? :huh:
 
It's in Deathly Hallows. Right on the gravestone in Godric's Hollow, with Lily's (January 30, same year) date provided alongside it.

I don't see how you could have missed it unless you never read the book.
 
All things considered the actual dates are far, far from important to the plot of the story so most would gloss over it. I fail to see why anyone would specifically remember that little of a detail from the book.
 
nuclear death frog, I am sorry, this is a good what-if, but your delivery was too mysterious and you wanted us to focus on trivia most would have to research for.
Now, if it was the story itself there would be no problem, but since it is an idea that either you are wanting to work on or hope someone else would be inspired by, this whole mystery is not very useful.


Speaking of ideas...

While making a new Pathfinder character, I saw the Oracle Mysteries and Curses…
Oracles are chosen ones to wield the power they get from outside forces. They each have a Mystery, that gives them extra powers, but also a Curse that comes with positives and negatives.
One of the Curses is Branded, where the person has a magic scar that cannot be hidden, making them recognizable, but in exchange gives the wielder a burning touch that brands the enemies, making them weaker to their magic, and later even makes them resistant to fires. Sounds familiar?
And one of the Mysteries is Spellscar, where the person is touched in some way by Primal Magic itself… or was affected in the past by a magical event. Also sounding pretty familiar here… Of course, the similarities stop there, since Mysteries give many extra abilities Harry did not have… in canon.
So, an idea was born. A Harry Potter story where Harry is, unknowingly, a Spellscar Oracle.
But I have no idea where to go with this... but the basis is here.
 
Yorae Rasante said:
nuclear death frog, I am sorry, this is a good what-if, but your delivery was too mysterious and you wanted us to focus on trivia most would have to research for.
Now, if it was the story itself there would be no problem, but since it is an idea that either you are wanting to work on or hope someone else would be inspired by, this whole mystery is not very useful.
I'll ... accept that. Somehow.

Yeah, it's an idea I'm considering writing. That would be why I revised it; I originally wrote it years ago but there were always little nagging bits of the way it was written that I wanted to change. Which I did when editing it. The result was the above.
 
nuclear death frog said:
Yorae Rasante said:
nuclear death frog, I am sorry, this is a good what-if, but your delivery was too mysterious and you wanted us to focus on trivia most would have to research for.
Now, if it was the story itself there would be no problem, but since it is an idea that either you are wanting to work on or hope someone else would be inspired by, this whole mystery is not very useful.
I'll ... accept that. Somehow.

Yeah, it's an idea I'm considering writing. That would be why I revised it; I originally wrote it years ago but there were always little nagging bits of the way it was written that I wanted to change. Which I did when editing it. The result was the above.
I think the problem may be that you either have an exceptionally good memory in general, or that you remember the books in very impressive detail, and in either case, expected others to, as well. Trying again with the awareness that most people are only going to recall the general plot and the big events (if even that much) might help.
 

zerohour

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Shortly after graduation, Harry receives an invitation to join the Ragnarok Society.

This society is a collections of heroes from across time who have the power to end the world, either through being keepers of forbidden lore, guardians of artifacts that can level continents, demons sealed within a family's bloodline, or having unique powers that could prove devastating to the world at large, or could trigger widespread conflict.

Harry, as the first ever Master of Death is invited to their elite ranks, while they determine just how dangerous his power is.  Can he bring the dead back to life?  Can he end any life, anywhere?  How do his powers interact with those of the various members?

Mostly a humor story, but could provide some interesting stories.
 

da_fox2279

California Crackpot
What if Voldemort's last, accidental horcrux was the reason he couldn't return to a body sooner? The idea is that the horcrux in Harry's head blocks his connections to the others, either because it was the most recent, or because it was attached to a living being?

This is the reason Tommy could only posses people/animals, why he had to use the rebirthing ritual to get a body - as far as magic was concerned, he had a body already. He may not have been inhabiting it, but he still had it. So what if the body in question belonged to Harry?

Not entirely fleshed out, this idea.
 
If that were the case, then Harry would never have to fight him. All he has to do is find the rest of the Horcruxes and once the scar is the only one left, he knows that Voldemort will die when he does.
 

chronodekar

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nuclear death frog said:
If that were the case, then Harry would never have to fight him. All he has to do is find the rest of the Horcruxes and once the scar is the only one left, he knows that Voldemort will die when he does.
He may not have to fight him as in the first book - but those events could go in a very different direction. If his scar was what kept Voldermort from returning to his old body, (assuming he wanted to return to it), then Voldie's objective would be to get his Horcrux back. After posessing Quirrel, he would perhaps try to actively kill Harry or some such. When the fourth book comes round, he's given up on his old body, but made a new one. A bit later, Harry discovers/finds the old body and posses it himself. He then faces off against Voldermort using the dark lord's own body. The dark lord dies in the fight (both is bodies) but Harry return to his original body and lives happily ever after - AND the prophesy is fulfilled.

(just typed what came to my mind - there are probably holes in the logic)

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