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Spoilers (holy crap I worked out the colors sweet)The gem is Saber. All the other Servants are copies from the ToH, can go into spirit form and can be supported in prana by their masters, which, along with them all having "A rank willpower" ('cause, ya know, heroes,) gave them enough protection from the darkness to survive essentially unscathed. Saber, however couldn't go into spirit form, her soul was really present in a body provided by the grail, and she didn't have the necessary prana from Shirou, so she ended up crystallised. If she'd had Rin as her master, or if she was present in her real body and needed no prana support, she could have "pulled a beast" without much difficulty. Once Shirou levels up a bit, Saber will make more of an appearance. End Spoilers.
Eh. Handwave the details; the entire point of Kingdom Hearts is as a vehicle to cross over the various Disney properties, just like the entire point of Fate Stay Night is "King Arthur vs Hercules vs Gilgamesh in the modern world". Say the fact that Shirou has Avalon inside of him delayed the destruction of the Arthurian world. Maybe the presence of the ancient Greek heroic spirits did the same to the world of the Hercules cartoon, as well; possibly because they wound up there as the Nasuverse was destroyed, and proceeded to kick enough Heartless ass to delay its destruction long enough for Shirou to arrive.
Regardless, though, seeing how Saber deals with the fact that in the new world her alternate self assumes the throne at age twelve, her beloved brother is a callous oaf, and her half-incubus wizard mentor is now a batty time-travelling sorceror and mechanical tinkerer would be well worth it. As would the Greek heroes' reactions to everything that got Disneyfied (so pretty much everything).
Well, I don't think that Disney's never done anything with either Medea or Medusa, so beyond the differences between Nasu-ancient Greece and Disney-AG, I'm not exactly sure where comedy gold for those two is going to come from.
*checks disney wiki*
Ah, Rider's counterpart appeared in the Hercules T.V spin-off, where she was a lonely girl with a crush on Herc. Hades played her into accepting a spell that turned her human during the day so she could get closer to him, but it didn't work out in the end. She also had a pair of shades with heart-shaped lenses that blocked her petrifying stare. So I suppose that if they ever did meet, Rider might ask her if she has a spare pair. Oh, and Jason (and Perseus) were trained by Phil. And Jason was apparently voiced by Shatner. Although in the myth Herc travelled on the Argo, Disney Herc as a Teen bumped his head on the disassembled boat's mast at one point. So no Caster kicking Disney Jason in the balls.
Actually, MoB has a point. I don't believe that any of the worlds that Sora visited had pieces of them eaten by the Heartless. Oddly enough, Herc's world consists of the Colosseum and the Underworld, and only that. Unless there was more we weren't shown, or something. Wait, Birth by Sleep had "A Town Near Thebes. So Thebes exists. Which implies the rest of Disney ancient Greece exists as well.
As for Arthur meeting Arthur... Merlin is the only character from the SITS world shown, and it's all but stated that said world has fallen to darkness. I believe that he was in traverse town with the Fairy Godmother some time before Sora showed up. However, there will be several conversations between Saber and Merlin that I hope will be entertaining. "...Wart?" And her reaction to the Pride Lands...
But which non F/SN Nasu-verse characters would end up surviving Gaia being swallowed by darkness? Because if Crimson Moon. the 27 D.A.A's and half the Mage's association are running around making deals and experimenting on this bizarre thing that's called a heart, but not the blood-pumping one, things are going to get complicated.
I don't think that Akasha and "The Light" are incompatible, so I'll be having them as essentially the same thing, but I figure the light will essentially be an aspect of Akasha in each universe. I suppose any modern mage who learns that Shirou is "the one who will open the door to light" will certainly have an opinion about him basically being destined to accomplish what almost every mage in history has wanted to do. And Zelretch will travel to different dimensions, not worlds. True magic will still be needed for any Sliders action, while Gummi ships/corridors of darkness will be needed for travel between the worlds.
Well, no-one's ever entered the Light and come back in KH, AFAIK, so no problem there. And Gaia's "stomping" may be used as just a quirk of Shirou's world, and may not be present on others, it depends. Shirou certainly won't lose his memory or fade from existence if and when he returns to his world. Gaia crushes paradoxes or anything else that disrupts it's order. I might even have it so that it's responsible for an extra strong world barrier that hid Shirou's world for so long (which is why the other worlds are unknown by modern magi.) However, it's still a system under Akasha, which is "the light." So darkness, or the heartless, should basically be "enemy number one," and possibly too powerful in high concentrations for Gaia to deal with. Spoiler A Counter Guardian will be called in the second a heartless eats somebody's heart, and once more start showing up, multiple guardians will be called in en masse. However, some heartless will be extremely close to the heart of the world, and Gaia will be lost before the CG's can rally and mount an effective counter assault. /Spoiler.
Apparently not, seeing as different areas appear in different games sometimes. See my earlier post for the "Town near Thebes" remark. They're there, there's just no reason for Sora/Roxas to go over. That said, I'm not going to expand every world to include stuff not shown in the games. It'd take forever.
Interesting, but would Kiritsugu really qualify for the Keyblade? He's got a strong heart, but he spends most of his life trying to not feel anything, acting as the "machine that is Emiya Kiritsugu." If a Keybearer's heart is their true power, then Kiritsugu's in trouble.
I am really unsure about how to bring Angra Manyu into this. He's basically a sacrifice that's supposed to be the evils of the world, and it's KH canon that darkness being invited into peoples hearts makes them a heartless. So Angra Manyu was an innocent that had the darkness of others forced into him, becoming a powerful heartless? The Shadow Giants that Dark Sakura used were quite heartless-esque, weren't they? And because A.M was corrupted by the darkness of others, one of his special heartless abilities is that he can corrupt other people (ala Saber Alter.) Hey, if A.M (inside the grail) fell into darkness, would he try to become "the evils of all the worlds" by absorbing all the darkness he comes across? If so I have a potential final boss.
And Shirou could have been around 14 before Kiritsugu died if you believe him being over 18 in F/SN (yeah right.) So he'd be just the right age to go on a world jaunt. (I'll be having Shirou be 16 as of Heaven's Feel 5, though.)
<a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSdm0rE3nWU' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>King of the Wild</a>, Saber Lion!
As for her meeting Wart-Arthur, well, compare <a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=fO_3EO-Vd5o' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>this</a> to <a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0XCxr3Wgok' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>this</a>, and consider how she might react to the differences.
I can't figure out how she'd react. The sword in the stone ends only a little while after Arthur's coronation, so Saber might want to warn Arthur about Mordred and such, but it's also Disney, so lighter and softer. Arthur's also a boy, so she'd also be a little unnerved (as would anyone learning about a gender-bent version of them,) and possibly might even see Arthur as someone who has the potential to become a superior version of her that isn't "hampered by femininity." (Not my views, just trying to get into her head.) Plus, Merlin's a lot more helpful, and can visit the future, and he knows for a fact that Arthur will be famous. As she's just going to meet Merlin, I'm thinking introspective brooding with occasional questioning, finished with Saber extracting a promise from Merlin.
Ah, balls. I completely forgot about "Gate of Babylon: King's Treasure!" Allright, allright. Maybe Spoiler Gilgamesh was a Keyblade Master who participated in the Keyblade War. We don't have a date for it except that the events surrounding have becomes legends, so saying it was around 5,000 years ago shouldn't be much of a problem. Or maybe Enkidu was the master, the Keybearer created by the Gods in preparation for the war! Yes, and Gilgamesh was on his way to becoming a Keybearer until Enkidu's death caused the start of his downfall. And the King's Treasure is either a weapon Gil had commissioned after seeing Enkidu's Keyblade, or his version of Soul Eater, a weapon which had begun to transform into a Keyblade but was interrupted when Gil fell to the dark side, so the only real Keyblade ability it has is opening the invisible door. /Spoiler
And I have plans for Gilgamesh. I'm thinking he starts scouring the worlds looking for kick-ass weapons that should really be in his hands. Spoiler King Triton is going to be really angry when Shirou shows up. /Spoiler
Hang on, let me go get my tin foil hat. Spoiler Spending time with Disney characters is going to make Shirou more idealistic than ever, and do wonderful things to his charisma stat. Gilgamesh will at some point recognise that Shirou reminds him of Enkidu, and although Gil will have no friend but Enkidu, that vow doesn't cover... apprentices. /Spoiler
True, but how many Disney characters have uncomfortable truths that need to be pointed out to them? How would he troll Tarzan? Or Alice? (Kotomine meets The Chesire Cat and they get into a troll-off, spending hours just trolling each other, and then travelling around trolling others together in an epic trolling team-up. Magnificent.) Although, considering that he has a grail-heart, which is immune to any curse (darkness?) that's weaker than something of A.M power level... I need to think on that.
Ah, sorry. I'm not replacing Destiny Islands with Fuyuki City. Master Xehanort is on his way to DI when he gets waylaid and ends up in Fuyuki, and if Ventus hadn't connected to Shirou, and manifested a Keyblade, he'd have continued over there so Ventus could live out his final days.
Terra will still have chosen Riku as his successor. Kairi is still the 7th PoH. Destiny Islands will still fall into darkness; it's just that nasu-earth will fall at around the same time. However, in this AU, Sora never connected to Ventus's heart. It's actually a point of contention as to whether Sora could have wielded a Keyblade at the start without Ven's heart's influence, as he never went through a Keyblade Inheritance Ceremony, but then the Kingdom Key (the keyblade of the realm of light, not just your average KB) in KH1 was technically Riku's in the beginning. It originally chose Riku, and went back to him later, but then Sora proved his heart was stronger and the Kingdom Key returned to him. Some argue that was partially due to Ven, but Sora didn't have any problems with the Keyblade after Ven's heart had migrated to Roxas.
Now, I'm of the opinion that Sora's heart was strong enough that he could potentially be a Keybearer, even without a ceremony, on account of being "the chosen one," but the presence of Ventus's heart made him "stand out" to the Kingdom Key when it was first looking to "jump ship" from Riku. Without Ventus's heart, Sora could potentially earn one anyway, either by spending enough time around a sucky Keybearer while being awesome and strong-hearted, impressing an existing Keyblade Master enough that they do the inheritance ceremony, or via some other method, but in my fic Spoilers There won't be time for any of that to happen, as Riku will vanish into the darkness, Kairi's heart will take refuge in Sora as in canon, but without the Keyblade, Sora will not be able to defeat the Destiny Island Darkside, and will be turned into a Heartless. However, driven by the need to know what happened to his friends, he'll become a Nobody, so we'll have a very weak Sora-shadow, and a Roxas who has all of Sora's memories, and looks more like him and not Ven. And he won't have any Keyblade access (though I suppose if Sora gets his body restored by Kairi or another PoH and then gets a KB, then proper Nobody Roxas might be able to steal it away from restored from Darkness Sora.) Kairi, as a PoH, cannot become a heartless, but Namine will still be brought into existence. Kairi's body will vanish into a distant realm or wherever it went to in canon, while her heart will be stuck travelling through the dark corridors untill... well, we'll get to that later. Riki will wind up in Hollow Bastion. He'll still have the Kingdom Key, but be unable to summon it, as the KK won't work for someone succumbing to darkness, but hasn't found a better bearer yet. Without seeing Sora make new friends and providing Maleficent with manipulation material, he'll wise up to her a fair bit sooner, and once he finds out what's actually happened to his friends, we'll have an even more severe case of the atoner on our hands than we did in canon End Spoilers
Hmm... Clayton wants to shoot Gorillas and get rich. He is arrogant and totally convinced in his own abilities and invulnerability, though. I suppose Trol-lol-mine could manipulate him into a fight, but it... lacks something. And troll Gaston by setting him up to get beat up by strong females?
Besides, Kotomine's current goal is to find validation for his own existence via Angra Manyu being born into the world. He might look to the Darkness for something similar, or, under the right circumstances, he might return to his former abandoned wish; salvation from his tortured existence by becoming someone who can enjoy anything other than committing sins. He might look to those who have experimented on the heart to accomplish that. I'm undecided.
Actually, how likely is Kotomine to become a heartless? Is he the sort to feel strong feelings of revenge, hate, greed, or fear?
Oh man, that would be epic. Kotomine would destroy him. But HoND only appears in KH 3d, which isn't even out in Europe yet. I suppose I could have Troll-lol-lol-omine find that world earlier timeline-wise, but I wouldn't want to write it without playing the game first.
It seems to me that if you're going to link Angra Mainyu together with the Heartless, that it's entirely possible that Kotomine became a Nobody when the Grail gave him a (physical) heart made out of tainted Grail mud. Or, possibly, that his distortion was because he was already a Nobody, and the Grail gave him a Heart made from the Darkness of Angra Mainyu (because it's the fucking Holy Grail, and doing the impossible was the entire reason it was created in the first place). Or maybe his Heart was damaged somehow (hereditary curse?), and it resulted in him being a sort of pseudo-Nobody.
He can't be a Nobody, as he's shown to feel various emotions, throughout F/Z and F/SN. He just can't feel happiness except at the suffering of others. I'm thinking that his Heart just has a natural defect. It's just the way it is, and because that's the source of his problem, even if he were to be split into heartless and nobody, and then be restored by both parts of him being defeated, it wouldn't help at all. I may have Xemnas troll Kirei with this fact. I might even have a sub-plot that involves Kirei desperately searching for someone with extensive knowledge of hearts, in the hope that he can become normal, only for his hopes to be cruelly dashed.
Edit: I'm kind of wishing I'd had this idea a few months ago. KH 3D has introduced a stable freaking time loop by the villain that makes the events of almost every game all part of Xehanort's plan.
2nd edit: Have a sinking suspicion that Shirou would react to seeing a Keyblade in a similar way to how he reacted to seeing Ea.
Spoilers Ahoy Malificient will come across Sakura (who, due to basically resisting darkness her whole life, will have withstood the effects of the dark corridor with little difficulty) and Rider, and will possibly see her as a potential replacement for Riku. Expect a Maleficent/Rider fight, and scenes with Maleficent doing her best to manipulate Sakura while Rider urges her not to listen. /Spoilers
Actually, I'm going to go a little off-topic here, and say that while I don't dislike Sakura as a character, and I admire her for enduring the torments of Zouken and Shinji as well as she did, I actually really dislike the Shirou/Sakura pairing. Aside from the fact that Shirou abandons his ideals completely in HF, Sakura places Shirou on a pedestal, and looks to him as a source of hope and strength, when she should be looking inside herself. A relationship between the two would have Sakura being too dependent on Shirou.
*Potential spoilers depending on how the rest of my plot goes* I might go with Riku becoming a bit of a mentor to Sakura, potentially even involving a romantic sub-plot. /Spoilers
The only heartless that maintained a human form and mind was "Ansem," Seeker of Darkness, and it's believed that was due the fact that he became one on purpose. Saber obviously wouldn't do that, and has very little darkness in her heart, except for perhaps how she feels that someone else would have made a better king. If she did become a heartless, it would be a fairly weak one. Almost definitely a Shadow, or possibly a Neo-shadow or a Mega(not Giga)-shadow at most. If Saber Alter does make an appearance, it would probably only be a evil copy summoned for an original vs. evil clone fight. As for Saber Lily, she's supposed to be a version of Saber who became a queen instead of a king, so I'm not exactly sure how "Liratax" would look like her. I don't think I'll be writing Saber losing her heart, anyway.
Does he even want to be normal after Fate/Zero?
On Kotomine, I'm not sure, but after he saw the fire at the end of F/Z, wasn't he kind of annoyed that he just got the final answer to his question, without seeing the process? Like, he just reached his destination, but wanted the journey, too? In that case, I can see him seeking out someone who understands the heart to try and find out why he is the way he is. Not trying to change, but wanting to know.
So, Kotomine would be hunting down Ansem/DiZ? Or maybe Mickey?
So yeah, he definitely wants to understand why someone like him can exist, but I personally think (and please tell me if you disagree) that if he encountered the possibility that he could be altered into someone who could obtain happiness without having to turn their back on morality, he would be at least a little tempted. Ansem the Wise knows more about manipulating and quantifying the heart (or at least trying to) than Mickey, so if Kirei found out about the experiments that created the Emblem Heartless, he'd certainly try to seek out Ansem (whether he finds the real one or the fake, or both, is still undecided in my mind.)
If he did, he'd be in considerable pain until his body can forcefully understand how to copy it, or suppress the pain it causes.
I'm not sure a Keyblade would be quite like Ea. Maybe more like Excalibur, in that it doesn't make his brain blue-screen, but he can't replicate it. Ooh! If Shirou and Archer started synchronizing, would that read like he has two hearts and let him use two Keyblades?
Would Archer even have a heart? He's a spirit that can take on physical form, sure, but he's till not real. He might have a copy of a heart, but I doubt he has a real one.
Maybe just go with Avalon or UBW bullshit? Or he could always just dual wield the Keyblade and a Noble Phantasm?
Upon reflection, I've decide that a Keyblade won't be impossible to trace like Ea, but instead just really really hard. As in around the same level of difficulty as the Jeweled Sword of Zelretch, without the blueprints. A first attempt to trace a Keyblade without assistance will end up with a completely lousy copy that's pretty flimsy and practically powerless, to the point where it can only unlock mundane locks. However, Shirou will have an advantage that Archer doesn't, Spoiler and will project a decent imitation of Ven's Keyblade (that he saw in his dreams) Wayward Wind a couple of times before gaining the Kingdom Key when it leaves Riku, for a reason that is explained in a spoiler below.
As for Archer, well, here's the thing. In the rules I've set down for my cross-over, the Nasu-earth, in every dimension, is a world which is part of the original world that fell apart when Darkness entered the hearts of it's residents. Spoiler I might even have nasu-earth be the world that was created by the largest fragment of the original world, which is why nasu-earth has a will when none of the other worlds are shown to have one, and also might have the sundering of the original world be related to the end of the Age of Gods in some way, I'm not sure yet. /Spoilers However, this is the only dimension that had the special world barrier created by Gaia, that in every other dimension hid nasu-earth from travellers between the worlds, damaged by Master Xehanort when he arrives while preparing for Ven's death.
This is an extremely roundabout way of pointing out that the Throne of Heroes is the same as it is in F/SN, although I suppose there might be heroes from other worlds (that don't have Nasu-earth counterparts) in it. This, combined with the fact that the Throne only ever has one version of a Hero, means that Archer is this fic won't be an alternate future version of Keybearer! Shirou, but canon Heroic Spirit EMIYA. And he won't have ever been summoned by Gaia as a CG, or had a copy summoned as a Servant, outside of the Nasu-Earth world (which I really need a name for.) So Archer's going to be as confused over what's going as everybody else. As for being a copy of his ToH's version, the Riku Replica was stated to have had a heart, so I see no problem with Servants having them too, or perhaps a connection to the originals. However, Archer probably won't obtain a Keyblade of his own at all. He may, however, gain some ability at tracing them, but then he does already have a pretty good arsenal. Spoiler Like I said, I'm going to have tracing a Keyblade being exceptionally difficult, as it involves some concepts that are hard for people to fully understand, much like a Reality Marble. However, Ven's presence will give Shirou an instinctive understanding of some of the 7 or 8 steps of projecting a blade from UBW's into the real world, that Archer will lack. This is for one very important reason. If Archer figures out how to trace Keyblades, all he has to do is visit the Keyblade Graveyard, which is an actual world, and he'd become so hax he could probably solo every other character, heroes and villains alike.
It would depend on how much of the "old" him was left after 10 years of exposure to Gilgamesh, who has been encouraging Kirei's descent into darkness.
Perhaps him being curious would be better, and the possibility becomes more tempting as he investigates, although he is resistant to the change in his ambitions, and any expressed desire will be tentative, more easily ignored at first. He'll have been separated from Gilgamesh as well (Gil will be busy elsewhere,) travelling on his own, making a "religious pilgrimage." Actually, let me explain further. Spoiler involving character development: The biggest problem I have with Kotomine, the thing that bothers me the most, is that he didn't exactly have a real choice in becoming who he did. He was f'ed in the head from birth, a born sociopath. He was "primed" to walk down the path of villainy. I'm undecided which path I wish to take, but I want Kirei to reach the point where he'll either choose to be a villain intentionally, or have a "never had a choice" moment where he essentially surrenders to his nature. /Spoilers.
And I was so looking forward to Kirei trolling Mickey..
How would Kirei troll Mickey? What uncomfortable truth does his majesty fail to acknowledge? What logical fallacy does Mickey not register? Give me some raw material to use and I'll make a scene and have the two characters meet. Or! I could have an Omake corner where Trollomine troll a random KH character suggested by the readers!
So, something he'll have to work at to get a good copy.
Well, like I said, Spoiler Shirou will get a shortcut by harbouring Ven, while Archer will have to do it the long way, but pretty much.
That's still pretty useful.
Yeah, but not so much in a fight. Or if you can just pick the lock, or kick the door in. And most nasu-magi can probably manage a door-unlocking spell in their sleep.
While I can understand the choice, would Wayward Wind really work with Shirou's style? It's a reverse grip Keyblade, after all.
This will be an actual plot point, although as Shirou will Spoiler project Wayward Wind with a degree of Ven's skill,/Spoiler it won't be as much a problem as you're thinking, but yeah, he will struggle with the issue at first.
It would depend on how much of the "old" him was left after 10 years of exposure to Gilgamesh, who has been encouraging Kirei's descent into darkness.
Perhaps him being curious would be better, and the possibility becomes more tempting as he investigates, although he is resistant to the change in his ambitions, and any expressed desire will be tentative, more easily ignored at first. He'll have been separated from Gilgamesh as well (Gil will be busy elsewhere,) travelling on his own, making a "religious pilgrimage." Actually, let me explain further. Spoiler involving character development: The biggest problem I have with Kotomine, the thing that bothers me the most, is that he didn't exactly have a real choice in becoming who he did. He was f'ed in the head from birth, a born sociopath. He was "primed" to walk down the path of villainy. I'm undecided which path I wish to take, but I want Kirei to reach the point where he'll either choose to be a villain intentionally, or have a "never had a choice" moment where he essentially surrenders to his nature. /Spoilers.
That sounds like it could be genuinely interesting to read... Although he should probably meet a few other evil priests... And how exactly is Kotomine getting to other worlds anyway? Gilgamesh can probablly use his ship to travel the normal way, nut what about Kirei?
I think that Frollo is the only evil religious person shown in all the KH worlds shown so far, AFAIK. And Kirei will eventually end up in Traverse town a little while after Shirou. He'll spend a little more time in the darkness than most, and will figure out how to use the corridors of darkness fairly quickly. He is a fairly proficient magus, and he's been exposed to Angra Manyu, so I don't see a problem with him having an... affinity to darkness. Furthermore, he was an executor for the burial agency, where an iron will is required as protection from possession by demons, and it's likely that his bishop-class priests robe has some form of protective quality. The combination of all these factors means that he's practically immune to darkness exposure. He might acquire a Black Coat at some point by mugging an Organisation member. Depends on whether I can make the scene funny enough.
And I was so looking forward to Kirei trolling Mickey...
How would Kirei troll Mickey? What uncomfortable truth does his majesty fail to acknowledge? What logical fallacy does Mickey not register? Give me some raw material to use and I'll make a scene and have the two characters meet. Or! I could have an Omake corner where Trollomine troll a random KH character suggested by the readers!
Beats me. I've only played Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2, and a little of Ven's story in Birth By Sleep so I don't really know anything about Mickey's motivation in the games.
I've played 1, 2, 358/2 days, and Re:coded, but I'm not buying a PSP just for one game. I'd also buy the final mixes and re: chain of memories if they'd just release them in Europe! (Seriously, what did Europe ever do to Square Enix?) Oh, and I have copies of some of the manga.
At first Mickey was really biased towards the light, believing that everything that resided in darkness needed to be wiped out. Then Riku taught him that light and darkness are in balance with each other, and one cannot exist without the other. So maybe I could steal a little from Star Wars and it's arguments over the force. Kirei calling Mickey a hypocrite, stating that he suddenly thinks that darkness isn't so bad because his friend uses it, yet he still fights against it. Double standard. Or something.
So, something he'll have to work at to get a good copy.
Well, like I said, Spoiler Shirou will get a shortcut by harbouring Ven, while Archer will have to do it the long way /Spoilers, but pretty much.
Wouldn't the bleedover allow Archer to get the same knowledge Shirou does?
I'm going to say no. I don't think it's ever stated that Archer received anything from Shirou in F/SN. I don't know whether it was because Archer was the one from the future, or whether it was because he was the elder or had higher od levels, but only Shirou had knowledge flow into him, AFAIK. Unless Archer was somehow spiritually assaulted by Shirou's determination or something. Furthermore, even if the bleed-over was two-directional, it still wouldn't work. Like I said, Spoiler Ven's presence will give Shirou an instinctive understanding of some of the 7 or 8 steps of projecting a Keyblade from UBW's into the real world. However, if Ven's heart left Shirou, then so would the instinctive understanding. So if Archer copied Shirou's knowledge, it would go like this: Right, step x: Do this. Wait, how the hell are you supposed to do that? /Spoiler I will probably include a better written explanation of this in a scene.
nixofcyzerra said:
So I was perusing a forum I'd recently come across when I briefly glanced at a member's avatar, and saw a guy dual-wielding two swords, one white, one black. Now, I've been on a bit of a F/SN kick lately, so my first though was "Oh, Kanshou and Bakuya," but I take a second look and they're actually the Oblivion and Oathkeeper Keyblades. I have a passing thought that Shirou would have made a pretty damn good Keybearer.
Two days later, the thought has refused to leave my mind, I've discovered a grand total of three F/SN/KH crossovers, all of which were both on ff.net and appear to be self-inserts, though there's no power on this earth that can make me check, and I'm desperately scouring the two wiki's to see if Kingdom Heart mechanics contradict Nasu-verse mechanics (which doesn't actually seem to be a problem as long as I treatl KH magic as Age of Gods Magecraft, due to the individual worlds of KH being far less populated that Earth, and there being plenty of Phantasmal Species wandering around. Land of Dragons, anyone?)
So. Idea: When Master Xehanort tries to take Ventus to Destiny Islands to live out his final days, he gets waylaid somehow (I'm thinking maybe M. Xehanort senses the build up of prana for the coming grail war, or maybe I can think of a better idea later) and winds up in Fuyuki City around 1989, 1990, and Ventus's heart connects with an infant Shirou instead of newborn Sora. Four years later, after the fire and just as Shirou is having his epiphany about wanting to be a person who saves, Ventus's heart shows up and Shirou easily agrees to the merge.
Fast forward 10 years. Shirou is pretty much the same as canon, since Ventus wasn't shown to have any real effect on the formation of Sora's personality. His dreams of swords may occasionallyá include strange-looking ones that kinda look like keys, and he may or may not have "hallucinated" a mysterious voice after Lancer stabbed him, but that's about it.
I don't want to leave out Archer's storyline, so I'll be branching off the UBW route. I'm thinking that between days 4 and 6, definitely before Rider dies, the heartless (drawn by Angra Manyu?) invade and cause the world to disappear into darkness.
Shirou ends up in a place called Traverse Town, Saber has vanished, his command spells are still on his hand but seem to be inert, he's bizarrely gained the ability to project a giant key, and he's got this gem with blue and silver streaks that seems comforting somehow. Oh, and these two anthropomorphic animals, a duck and a dog, have shown up and seem to think he's some sort of chosen one. All in a day's work for a Hero of Justice, right?
Of course, there are more than a few beings from Shirou's world that can survive the world falling into darkness, and some of them will be more than happy to... take advantage of the opportunities that have come their way.
Note: I realise that F/SN having the multi-verse be canon interferes with KH's "there used to be 1 world, then it got broken up," concept, but I'll go with the idea that in every universe Naru Earth is a fragment of the KH original world, and the God's sealed it off and hid it. Or something. And I'm pretty sure I can use "The Light," as in the door to, as the Akashic Records.
Oh, and watch out for Arturia informing Merlin that her world's version of him is a perverted half-incubus, and Berserker facing off against the champion of the Colosseum.
Two days later, the thought has refused to leave my mind, I've discovered a grand total of three F/SN/KH crossovers, all of which were both on ff.net and appear to be self-inserts, though there's no power on this earth that can make me check, and I'm desperately scouring the two wiki's to see if Kingdom Heart mechanics contradict Nasu-verse mechanics (which doesn't actually seem to be a problem as long as I treatl KH magic as Age of Gods Magecraft, due to the individual worlds of KH being far less populated that Earth, and there being plenty of Phantasmal Species wandering around. Land of Dragons, anyone?)
So. Idea: When Master Xehanort tries to take Ventus to Destiny Islands to live out his final days, he gets waylaid somehow (I'm thinking maybe M. Xehanort senses the build up of prana for the coming grail war, or maybe I can think of a better idea later) and winds up in Fuyuki City around 1989, 1990, and Ventus's heart connects with an infant Shirou instead of newborn Sora. Four years later, after the fire and just as Shirou is having his epiphany about wanting to be a person who saves, Ventus's heart shows up and Shirou easily agrees to the merge.
Fast forward 10 years. Shirou is pretty much the same as canon, since Ventus wasn't shown to have any real effect on the formation of Sora's personality. His dreams of swords may occasionallyá include strange-looking ones that kinda look like keys, and he may or may not have "hallucinated" a mysterious voice after Lancer stabbed him, but that's about it.
I don't want to leave out Archer's storyline, so I'll be branching off the UBW route. I'm thinking that between days 4 and 6, definitely before Rider dies, the heartless (drawn by Angra Manyu?) invade and cause the world to disappear into darkness.
Shirou ends up in a place called Traverse Town, Saber has vanished, his command spells are still on his hand but seem to be inert, he's bizarrely gained the ability to project a giant key, and he's got this gem with blue and silver streaks that seems comforting somehow. Oh, and these two anthropomorphic animals, a duck and a dog, have shown up and seem to think he's some sort of chosen one. All in a day's work for a Hero of Justice, right?
Of course, there are more than a few beings from Shirou's world that can survive the world falling into darkness, and some of them will be more than happy to... take advantage of the opportunities that have come their way.
Note: I realise that F/SN having the multi-verse be canon interferes with KH's "there used to be 1 world, then it got broken up," concept, but I'll go with the idea that in every universe Naru Earth is a fragment of the KH original world, and the God's sealed it off and hid it. Or something. And I'm pretty sure I can use "The Light," as in the door to, as the Akashic Records.
Oh, and watch out for Arturia informing Merlin that her world's version of him is a perverted half-incubus, and Berserker facing off against the champion of the Colosseum.
nixofcyzerra said:
MastaofBitches said:
That actually sounds pretty awesome, although I can't quite tell if the "gem" is Saber or not, given you mentioned her talking to Merlin, and Berserker fighting Hercules.
nick012000 said:
Rider, Berserker, and Caster being dropped into the world of Hercules would be hilarious shit. As would Saber's reaction to being dropped into the world of The Sword In The Stone. I mean, Saber knew what she was getting into when she pulled Caliburn from the stone, but this Arthur wound up pulling it free by accident!
nick012000 said:
MastaofBitches said:
Herc's world is made up of the Colosseum and the Underworld, and Merlin would be in Traverse Town or Radiant Garden.
Regardless, though, seeing how Saber deals with the fact that in the new world her alternate self assumes the throne at age twelve, her beloved brother is a callous oaf, and her half-incubus wizard mentor is now a batty time-travelling sorceror and mechanical tinkerer would be well worth it. As would the Greek heroes' reactions to everything that got Disneyfied (so pretty much everything).
*checks disney wiki*
Ah, Rider's counterpart appeared in the Hercules T.V spin-off, where she was a lonely girl with a crush on Herc. Hades played her into accepting a spell that turned her human during the day so she could get closer to him, but it didn't work out in the end. She also had a pair of shades with heart-shaped lenses that blocked her petrifying stare. So I suppose that if they ever did meet, Rider might ask her if she has a spare pair. Oh, and Jason (and Perseus) were trained by Phil. And Jason was apparently voiced by Shatner. Although in the myth Herc travelled on the Argo, Disney Herc as a Teen bumped his head on the disassembled boat's mast at one point. So no Caster kicking Disney Jason in the balls.
Actually, MoB has a point. I don't believe that any of the worlds that Sora visited had pieces of them eaten by the Heartless. Oddly enough, Herc's world consists of the Colosseum and the Underworld, and only that. Unless there was more we weren't shown, or something. Wait, Birth by Sleep had "A Town Near Thebes. So Thebes exists. Which implies the rest of Disney ancient Greece exists as well.
As for Arthur meeting Arthur... Merlin is the only character from the SITS world shown, and it's all but stated that said world has fallen to darkness. I believe that he was in traverse town with the Fairy Godmother some time before Sora showed up. However, there will be several conversations between Saber and Merlin that I hope will be entertaining. "...Wart?" And her reaction to the Pride Lands...
But which non F/SN Nasu-verse characters would end up surviving Gaia being swallowed by darkness? Because if Crimson Moon. the 27 D.A.A's and half the Mage's association are running around making deals and experimenting on this bizarre thing that's called a heart, but not the blood-pumping one, things are going to get complicated.
nixofcyzerra said:
MinusMagnus said:
A few things about the KH/FSN cross.
* In Nasuverse aparently each different alternate universe is a different dream of Akasha. Whatever that means is up to debate, but there is a old dude running around between them, who is to say other people can't do it without resorting to Magic.
* In Nasuverse aparently each different alternate universe is a different dream of Akasha. Whatever that means is up to debate, but there is a old dude running around between them, who is to say other people can't do it without resorting to Magic.
*Supposedly anyone who reaches the Root can't come back. People who go out of their worlds can learn things (including magic) that doesn't exist back home. Gaia stomp down anything weird that happens in it's territory. Suspicious, isn't it.
* Are the worlds seem in KH really limited to just what is seem in the games?
I also have been thinking in ways of how to cross the two settings for quite some time. Ideas include:
*All the way back to when Kiritsugu lived on that island named after a crab, he made the Keyblade succession ritual with that guy from Birth By Sleep, I think his name was Terra.
*All the way back to when Kiritsugu lived on that island named after a crab, he made the Keyblade succession ritual with that guy from Birth By Sleep, I think his name was Terra.
*At the end of the fourth Holy grail war, Angra Manyu(sp?) managed to put a crack on the barrier of the Nasuverse world in which the Heartless managed to get inside. Gaia can keep them from reaching the World's heart but the Grail is keeping the crack open. The plot would follow a Shirou who actually learned how to fight from his father as he help people in a Japan that is falling apart due to the little critters and searching for a permanent solution to the problem.
*Follow a similar premise to the one above but have Shirou figuring out how to travel between worlds from a magic book he got from a Heartless (some of them do carry these things) searching for a cure to his father's curse (it may or may not include get anough money to pay for a Mega Elixir). He would end up involved several adventures, including stoping the <a href='http://www.mariowiki.com/Smithy_Gang' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Smithy Gang</a> from invading a world.
*Follow a similar premise to the one above but have Shirou figuring out how to travel between worlds from a magic book he got from a Heartless (some of them do carry these things) searching for a cure to his father's curse (it may or may not include get anough money to pay for a Mega Elixir). He would end up involved several adventures, including stoping the <a href='http://www.mariowiki.com/Smithy_Gang' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Smithy Gang</a> from invading a world.
And Shirou could have been around 14 before Kiritsugu died if you believe him being over 18 in F/SN (yeah right.) So he'd be just the right age to go on a world jaunt. (I'll be having Shirou be 16 as of Heaven's Feel 5, though.)
nick012000 said:
nixofcyzerra said:
And her reaction to the Pride Lands...
As for her meeting Wart-Arthur, well, compare <a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=fO_3EO-Vd5o' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>this</a> to <a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0XCxr3Wgok' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>this</a>, and consider how she might react to the differences.
Also, another thought: the Gate of Babylon is opened by the use of a key-shaped sword, and thus quite possibly wields the Original Keyblade. Hilarity ensues when he joins up with the Heroes; all the treasures of the world are his by right, after all, including the world itself, and how dare those impudent Heartless attempt to destroy that which belongs to the King of Heroes?
And I have plans for Gilgamesh. I'm thinking he starts scouring the worlds looking for kick-ass weapons that should really be in his hands. Spoiler King Triton is going to be really angry when Shirou shows up. /Spoiler
MastaofBitches said:
Which could lead to Gilgamesh and Shirou becoming Bro's down the road.
nixofcyzerra said:
Lord of Bones said:
Who would be vulnerable...thing is that Trollmine is King of Uncomfortable Truths. He'd probably just stay neutral while he trolls people.
nick012000 said:
So, done a bit of reading on the wikis. If Shirou is the one replacing the Kingdom Hearts protagonist, who is the one replacing the seventh Princess? They're supposed to have no darkness in their hearts, so wouldn't pretty much every girl in the story be disqualified due to angst? Pretty much the only female that isn't an angsty mess to some degree is Taiga.
Putting Taiga as a Princess of Heart would be amusing, though. I mean, most of them are in relationships with their local protagonist, but Taiga's is genderbent, with her playing the role of the domestically-lazy husband who supports the family, while Shirou plays the wife's role, cooking and cleaning and looking after her.
Plus, she even is a Princess, even before the magical stuff gets involved! A Yakuza Princess!
Putting Taiga as a Princess of Heart would be amusing, though. I mean, most of them are in relationships with their local protagonist, but Taiga's is genderbent, with her playing the role of the domestically-lazy husband who supports the family, while Shirou plays the wife's role, cooking and cleaning and looking after her.
Plus, she even is a Princess, even before the magical stuff gets involved! A Yakuza Princess!
Terra will still have chosen Riku as his successor. Kairi is still the 7th PoH. Destiny Islands will still fall into darkness; it's just that nasu-earth will fall at around the same time. However, in this AU, Sora never connected to Ventus's heart. It's actually a point of contention as to whether Sora could have wielded a Keyblade at the start without Ven's heart's influence, as he never went through a Keyblade Inheritance Ceremony, but then the Kingdom Key (the keyblade of the realm of light, not just your average KB) in KH1 was technically Riku's in the beginning. It originally chose Riku, and went back to him later, but then Sora proved his heart was stronger and the Kingdom Key returned to him. Some argue that was partially due to Ven, but Sora didn't have any problems with the Keyblade after Ven's heart had migrated to Roxas.
Now, I'm of the opinion that Sora's heart was strong enough that he could potentially be a Keybearer, even without a ceremony, on account of being "the chosen one," but the presence of Ventus's heart made him "stand out" to the Kingdom Key when it was first looking to "jump ship" from Riku. Without Ventus's heart, Sora could potentially earn one anyway, either by spending enough time around a sucky Keybearer while being awesome and strong-hearted, impressing an existing Keyblade Master enough that they do the inheritance ceremony, or via some other method, but in my fic Spoilers There won't be time for any of that to happen, as Riku will vanish into the darkness, Kairi's heart will take refuge in Sora as in canon, but without the Keyblade, Sora will not be able to defeat the Destiny Island Darkside, and will be turned into a Heartless. However, driven by the need to know what happened to his friends, he'll become a Nobody, so we'll have a very weak Sora-shadow, and a Roxas who has all of Sora's memories, and looks more like him and not Ven. And he won't have any Keyblade access (though I suppose if Sora gets his body restored by Kairi or another PoH and then gets a KB, then proper Nobody Roxas might be able to steal it away from restored from Darkness Sora.) Kairi, as a PoH, cannot become a heartless, but Namine will still be brought into existence. Kairi's body will vanish into a distant realm or wherever it went to in canon, while her heart will be stuck travelling through the dark corridors untill... well, we'll get to that later. Riki will wind up in Hollow Bastion. He'll still have the Kingdom Key, but be unable to summon it, as the KK won't work for someone succumbing to darkness, but hasn't found a better bearer yet. Without seeing Sora make new friends and providing Maleficent with manipulation material, he'll wise up to her a fair bit sooner, and once he finds out what's actually happened to his friends, we'll have an even more severe case of the atoner on our hands than we did in canon End Spoilers
nixofcyzerra said:
Lord of Bones said:
In some cases, I can see the Troll King trolling the villains...like Clayton. Or Gaston.
Besides, Kotomine's current goal is to find validation for his own existence via Angra Manyu being born into the world. He might look to the Darkness for something similar, or, under the right circumstances, he might return to his former abandoned wish; salvation from his tortured existence by becoming someone who can enjoy anything other than committing sins. He might look to those who have experimented on the heart to accomplish that. I'm undecided.
Actually, how likely is Kotomine to become a heartless? Is he the sort to feel strong feelings of revenge, hate, greed, or fear?
nick012000 said:
Kotomine meets Frollo. <a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyS3weMlxLA' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Hilarity</a> <a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfKHqYO8zl0' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>ensues</a>. Especially since Kotomine's order doesn't seem to have oaths of celibacy.
nixofcyzerra said:
nick012000 said:
Lord of Bones said:
Kotomine's actually fairly stoic, all things considered. It'd be more interesting if he wasn't a heartless; his own distortion is quite enough, I believe.
Edit: I'm kind of wishing I'd had this idea a few months ago. KH 3D has introduced a stable freaking time loop by the villain that makes the events of almost every game all part of Xehanort's plan.
2nd edit: Have a sinking suspicion that Shirou would react to seeing a Keyblade in a similar way to how he reacted to seeing Ea.
nixofcyzerra said:
He-who-voted-for-Kodos said:
I kind of think Sakura may be pretty well suited to be a Riku-type character in this. She's got the shards of the tainted Grail as the original source to bring out the darkness, oodles of pent-up emotion, presumably a strong enough heart to use the darkness without succumbing to it and becoming a Heartless, and an established Dark form. I kind of see someone manipulating her like Terra and Riku: first it's "use this and you'll have the power to help those people," then after it's started affecting her, playing on her feelings about Rin and Shirou, which eventually causes her to go full Dark Sakura. At that point, kind of like HF, with Rin fighting to be a good big sister, and maybe some Keyblade-heart shenanigans, if Shirou is around. Afterwards, like Riku, she can use the darkness, but too much runs the risk of her going crazy again.
Actually, I'm going to go a little off-topic here, and say that while I don't dislike Sakura as a character, and I admire her for enduring the torments of Zouken and Shinji as well as she did, I actually really dislike the Shirou/Sakura pairing. Aside from the fact that Shirou abandons his ideals completely in HF, Sakura places Shirou on a pedestal, and looks to him as a source of hope and strength, when she should be looking inside herself. A relationship between the two would have Sakura being too dependent on Shirou.
*Potential spoilers depending on how the rest of my plot goes* I might go with Riku becoming a bit of a mentor to Sakura, potentially even involving a romantic sub-plot. /Spoilers
Also, would Saber Alter and Saber Lily be like Saber's Heartless and Nobody, like Ansem and Xemnas were for Xehanort?
MastaofBitches said:
He-who-voted-for-Kodos said:
MastaofBitches said:
nixofcyzerra said:
I might even have a sub-plot that involves Kirei desperately searching for someone with extensive knowledge of hearts, in the hope that he can become normal, only for his hopes to be cruelly dashed.
"ùSatisfied? Kirei.ö
The priest clutched his stomach, exhausted and breathing rapidly from his laughter; Gilgamesh asked in a calm voice.
"No, not enough. Just this is not enough.ö
Kirei wiped away the tears from his maniacal laughter, and shook his head.
"True ù I have finally found my answer in this life that is full of question marks. This is a very great improvement. However, this doesnÆt solve any problems. I only bypassed the process and method of solving the question to arrive directly at the answer. Just like that, how will you have me acknowledge it, and even then what is there for me to acknowledge?ö
If God is the Creator of All Things, then to all souls, æhappinessÆ is truth.
But now, there truly existed a soul that had turned its back on morality and yet obtained happiness. Kirei had also only just begun to believe that this soul was no one else but himself.
In that case, the definition of good and evil, as well as the very existence of truth, had created a contradiction. This contradiction could not be overlooked.
"Within the equation from which this strange answer is derived, there should exist a reason that is simple and easily understood. No, there is definitely one. Then what exactly is ità I must clarify it, I must find it. Even if it takes my whole life, I want to understand.ö
The priest clutched his stomach, exhausted and breathing rapidly from his laughter; Gilgamesh asked in a calm voice.
"No, not enough. Just this is not enough.ö
Kirei wiped away the tears from his maniacal laughter, and shook his head.
"True ù I have finally found my answer in this life that is full of question marks. This is a very great improvement. However, this doesnÆt solve any problems. I only bypassed the process and method of solving the question to arrive directly at the answer. Just like that, how will you have me acknowledge it, and even then what is there for me to acknowledge?ö
If God is the Creator of All Things, then to all souls, æhappinessÆ is truth.
But now, there truly existed a soul that had turned its back on morality and yet obtained happiness. Kirei had also only just begun to believe that this soul was no one else but himself.
In that case, the definition of good and evil, as well as the very existence of truth, had created a contradiction. This contradiction could not be overlooked.
"Within the equation from which this strange answer is derived, there should exist a reason that is simple and easily understood. No, there is definitely one. Then what exactly is ità I must clarify it, I must find it. Even if it takes my whole life, I want to understand.ö
MastaofBitches said:
He-who-voted-for-Kodos said:
MastaofBitches said:
nixofcyzerra said:
Have a sinking suspicion that Shirou would react to seeing a Keyblade in a similar way to how he reacted to seeing Ea.
Maybe just go with Avalon or UBW bullshit? Or he could always just dual wield the Keyblade and a Noble Phantasm?
As for Archer, well, here's the thing. In the rules I've set down for my cross-over, the Nasu-earth, in every dimension, is a world which is part of the original world that fell apart when Darkness entered the hearts of it's residents. Spoiler I might even have nasu-earth be the world that was created by the largest fragment of the original world, which is why nasu-earth has a will when none of the other worlds are shown to have one, and also might have the sundering of the original world be related to the end of the Age of Gods in some way, I'm not sure yet. /Spoilers However, this is the only dimension that had the special world barrier created by Gaia, that in every other dimension hid nasu-earth from travellers between the worlds, damaged by Master Xehanort when he arrives while preparing for Ven's death.
This is an extremely roundabout way of pointing out that the Throne of Heroes is the same as it is in F/SN, although I suppose there might be heroes from other worlds (that don't have Nasu-earth counterparts) in it. This, combined with the fact that the Throne only ever has one version of a Hero, means that Archer is this fic won't be an alternate future version of Keybearer! Shirou, but canon Heroic Spirit EMIYA. And he won't have ever been summoned by Gaia as a CG, or had a copy summoned as a Servant, outside of the Nasu-Earth world (which I really need a name for.) So Archer's going to be as confused over what's going as everybody else. As for being a copy of his ToH's version, the Riku Replica was stated to have had a heart, so I see no problem with Servants having them too, or perhaps a connection to the originals. However, Archer probably won't obtain a Keyblade of his own at all. He may, however, gain some ability at tracing them, but then he does already have a pretty good arsenal. Spoiler Like I said, I'm going to have tracing a Keyblade being exceptionally difficult, as it involves some concepts that are hard for people to fully understand, much like a Reality Marble. However, Ven's presence will give Shirou an instinctive understanding of some of the 7 or 8 steps of projecting a blade from UBW's into the real world, that Archer will lack. This is for one very important reason. If Archer figures out how to trace Keyblades, all he has to do is visit the Keyblade Graveyard, which is an actual world, and he'd become so hax he could probably solo every other character, heroes and villains alike.
nixofcyzerra said:
MastaofBitches said:
nixofcyzerra said:
So yeah, he definitely wants to understand why someone like him can exist, but I personally think (and please tell me if you disagree) that if he encountered the possibility that he could be altered into someone who could obtain happiness without having to turn their back on morality, he would be at least a little tempted.
nixofcyzerra said:
Ansem the Wise knows more about manipulating and quantifying the heart (or at least trying to) than Mickey, so if Kirei found out about the experiments that created the Emblem Heartless, he'd certainly try to seek out Ansem (whether he finds the real one or the fake, or both, is still undecided in my mind.)
nixofcyzerra said:
Upon reflection, I've decide that a Keyblade won't be impossible to trace like Ea, but instead just really really hard. As in around the same level of difficulty as the Jeweled Sword of Zelretch, without the blueprints.
nixofcyzerra said:
A first attempt to trace a Keyblade without assistance will end up with a completely lousy copy that's pretty flimsy and practically powerless, to the point where it can only unlock mundane locks.
nixofcyzerra said:
However, Shirou will have an advantage that Archer doesn't, Spoiler and will project a decent imitation of Ven's Keyblade (that he saw in his dreams) Wayward Wind a couple of times before gaining the Kingdom Key when it leaves Riku, for a reason that is explained in a spoiler below.
nixofcyzerra said:
MastaofBitches said:
nixofcyzerra said:
MastaofBitches said:
nixofcyzerra said:
So yeah, he definitely wants to understand why someone like him can exist, but I personally think (and please tell me if you disagree) that if he encountered the possibility that he could be altered into someone who could obtain happiness without having to turn their back on morality, he would be at least a little tempted.
nixofcyzerra said:
nixofcyzerra said:
Ansem the Wise knows more about manipulating and quantifying the heart (or at least trying to) than Mickey, so if Kirei found out about the experiments that created the Emblem Heartless, he'd certainly try to seek out Ansem (whether he finds the real one or the fake, or both, is still undecided in my mind.)
At first Mickey was really biased towards the light, believing that everything that resided in darkness needed to be wiped out. Then Riku taught him that light and darkness are in balance with each other, and one cannot exist without the other. So maybe I could steal a little from Star Wars and it's arguments over the force. Kirei calling Mickey a hypocrite, stating that he suddenly thinks that darkness isn't so bad because his friend uses it, yet he still fights against it. Double standard. Or something.
nixofcyzerra said:
nixofcyzerra said:
Upon reflection, I've decide that a Keyblade won't be impossible to trace like Ea, but instead just really really hard. As in around the same level of difficulty as the Jeweled Sword of Zelretch, without the blueprints.