Nasuverse Loose Lips
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Except, it's really only one contract in Rider's case: Sakura's. Shinji's book just lets him use hers, as far as I can tell.
I kinda agree with you about the "no Shinji death = bad" part. I think it was implied that the "friend" Archer!Shirou saved, only to have said jackass frame him for serious crimes and atrocities - ultimately ending with Archer!Shirou being executed for it - was actually Shinji.
I don't think I have to explain why that makes me angry. :flameon:
I could still hold out hope that Shinji, post-UBW, would suffer an ugly end. The aftermath isn't really written, y'know.
I kinda agree with you about the "no Shinji death = bad" part. I think it was implied that the "friend" Archer!Shirou saved, only to have said jackass frame him for serious crimes and atrocities - ultimately ending with Archer!Shirou being executed for it - was actually Shinji.
I don't think I have to explain why that makes me angry. :flameon:
I could still hold out hope that Shinji, post-UBW, would suffer an ugly end. The aftermath isn't really written, y'know.
Geez, my mind is in the gutter. Oh well, such is life. If you can't think of a way to make him command two servants at once, do the next best thing. Have him get close to whoever controls the servant you want, and make a team. If Shirou does get as powerful as you say, you can make them join him for fear of facing him. (This would work pretty well with Shinji, as he is a coward.) If you are keeping Sakura as master, she already likes him and you could use that to your advantage. I would have to think on how to get Caster, but...
Berserker and Ilya might be difficult, as Ilya doesn't mellow out much until after Berserker's demise. Archer and Rin have already teamed up with Shirou before, but more out of comradery and like goals. Assasin would be a little difficult, of course.
Anyways, thats my two cents worth. (By the way, this is all based on the anime and what little I know of the Fate! Scenario in the game.)
Berserker and Ilya might be difficult, as Ilya doesn't mellow out much until after Berserker's demise. Archer and Rin have already teamed up with Shirou before, but more out of comradery and like goals. Assasin would be a little difficult, of course.
Anyways, thats my two cents worth. (By the way, this is all based on the anime and what little I know of the Fate! Scenario in the game.)
Sorry for the double-post, but my comp is having problems with the edit button... <_<
Based on a website F1 posted in the "make your own eirei" forum, one of the sentences in the 'Master' section stated that ,"As long as a Master still has one command spell, he can still make a contract with another Servant. This also means he can have multiple Servants. However, the Prana being sent from Master to Servants will be split between the two, meaning lowered stats."
So it is theoretically possible to have multiple servants, and since Archer and Rider can stick around for at least a day after the Master dies...Well, I leave that up to you. Just don't kill Rin for no good reason. ^_^
Based on a website F1 posted in the "make your own eirei" forum, one of the sentences in the 'Master' section stated that ,"As long as a Master still has one command spell, he can still make a contract with another Servant. This also means he can have multiple Servants. However, the Prana being sent from Master to Servants will be split between the two, meaning lowered stats."
So it is theoretically possible to have multiple servants, and since Archer and Rider can stick around for at least a day after the Master dies...Well, I leave that up to you. Just don't kill Rin for no good reason. ^_^
Berserker was the first to be summoned, I believe.
Assassin was summoned after Caster, and Lancer was probably only summoned only a little earlier than Archer. The times for Caster and Rider's summoning are pretty unclear, but it was probably some time before Lancer; Caster, at least, was gathering prana for some time, since there were reports of her victims before the scenario began.
At least, that's what I think.
Assassin was summoned after Caster, and Lancer was probably only summoned only a little earlier than Archer. The times for Caster and Rider's summoning are pretty unclear, but it was probably some time before Lancer; Caster, at least, was gathering prana for some time, since there were reports of her victims before the scenario began.
At least, that's what I think.
Right, might as well use this as a general question thread since I don't want to make a new one...
First, say that Shirou traces the Gae Bolg. Would he be able to use its abilities, or would it just be one strong-ass spear? I'm pretty sure it can, but I just want to check (been looking all over fuyuki and I couldn't find any confimation--though I might just not be looking in the right place)
Secondly, would any of the Dead Apostles be interested in the Grail itself?
And finally, does the Church know about the Fuyuki Grail Wars? Cuz I'd figure if they did, they'd be all over it.
First, say that Shirou traces the Gae Bolg. Would he be able to use its abilities, or would it just be one strong-ass spear? I'm pretty sure it can, but I just want to check (been looking all over fuyuki and I couldn't find any confimation--though I might just not be looking in the right place)
Secondly, would any of the Dead Apostles be interested in the Grail itself?
And finally, does the Church know about the Fuyuki Grail Wars? Cuz I'd figure if they did, they'd be all over it.
1) Considering that Shirou copied Beserker's "Nine Lives" from his axe which was just plain rock, as opposed to Lancer's Gae Bolg, the weapon he used his whole life, I would say yes. Another question is would he have enough mana to use its full power? Shirou would have a much harder time tracing something that isn't a sword.
2) Dunno , you'll have to wait for someone else.
3) They already have it covered. The Grail war happens under the joint jurisdiction of the Magic association and the Church, with an envoy from the Church as manager. In the Fifth Grail War, that man is Kotomine Kirei.
2) Dunno , you'll have to wait for someone else.
3) They already have it covered. The Grail war happens under the joint jurisdiction of the Magic association and the Church, with an envoy from the Church as manager. In the Fifth Grail War, that man is Kotomine Kirei.
Hm. Gae Bulg ouht to be possible - he's seen it. The wiki article on his abilities states that blades are his forte, and anything else requires greater mana in exchange. Archer's Rho Aias is the prime example. (Why did the anime skip that? It's so cool!)
Depending on whether or not you interpret a big arsed spear as being within Shirou's abilities or not. I'd say yes, as a Spear is equivalent to long-handled sword, IMO.
But, for all that, Shirou could concievably just trace a Rhomphaia or a Falx, and get the same kind of range - less the Noble Phantasm part, of course.
The Church does know about the Grail War, RD - that's what Kotomine's function is supposed to be. I think they're supposed to ensure fair play for defeated or Masters, but...well, we saw how well that worked, in Kotomine-han's case. ^_^
Depending on whether or not you interpret a big arsed spear as being within Shirou's abilities or not. I'd say yes, as a Spear is equivalent to long-handled sword, IMO.
But, for all that, Shirou could concievably just trace a Rhomphaia or a Falx, and get the same kind of range - less the Noble Phantasm part, of course.
The Church does know about the Grail War, RD - that's what Kotomine's function is supposed to be. I think they're supposed to ensure fair play for defeated or Masters, but...well, we saw how well that worked, in Kotomine-han's case. ^_^
Well, from my understanding, Gae Bolg's stabbing attack is rather economical, so I'd assume that he'd be able to pull it off at least once. The thrown attack, on the other hand...
And I think it's bladed weapons in general, and he just leans towards swords.
Really?...odd, for some reason I'd swear up and down the aisle that Kotohime's rogue-wait, no. His father was working it too. How the hell'd I forget about that? :huh:
Curses!
And I think it's bladed weapons in general, and he just leans towards swords.
Really?...odd, for some reason I'd swear up and down the aisle that Kotohime's rogue-wait, no. His father was working it too. How the hell'd I forget about that? :huh:
Curses!
My understanding was that it had nothing to do with the sword, and everything to do with his own lack of skill.
'Unable to use Caliburn to its full capacity' doesn't necessarily mean you can't activate all it's powers. It can just mean you suck at using them.
And I believe he also used Excalibur in one Heaven's Feel bad ending. So, 'this hero only' is probably limited to EX-rank at most.
'Unable to use Caliburn to its full capacity' doesn't necessarily mean you can't activate all it's powers. It can just mean you suck at using them.
And I believe he also used Excalibur in one Heaven's Feel bad ending. So, 'this hero only' is probably limited to EX-rank at most.