Miscellanious Nanoha Ideas

[Amaranth]

Even I who is an atheist. Want to read an one shot story; what would happened If Olivia the saint kaiser, Buddha, Mohammad, Jesus and other prominent characters from other religions, talk and socialize with each other in one room. Saint Young Men style.

Being religious or an atheist has very little to do with the interest and curiosity of thinkers and fanmusers alike.

@amaranth; I think Hephaestus will have a better Story with Nanoha than Artemis in that matter. xD

And the funny attempts of the male gods to seduce the female cast from the Nanoha-verse.

Indeed.

Also, nobody really sees the Nanoha meets Artemis potential? I mean, Artemis is described as having "long, auburn hair in a ponytail and wearing a silver hunter's tunic".

That sounds an awful lot like Nanoha herself. Also I think Jason meeting Fate would have lots of potential too...

I also forgot to mention how both Artemis and Nanoha have fans following them around the place.

Even I who is an atheist. Want to read an one shot story; what would happened If Olivia the saint kaiser, Buddha, Mohammad, Jesus and other prominent characters from other religions, talk and socialize with each other in one room. Saint Young Men style.

Being religious or an atheist has very little to do with the interest and curiosity of thinkers and fanmusers alike.

I prefer to avoid from using prominent characters from the two major religions in fanfics for the issue is really sensitive you know. While using OC to discuss about religions is okay but it may be drag toward flame wars because as we know it, internet is filled with mostly haters and trollers.

This isn't a major religion... THIS IS RIORDAN!

On other stuff, what color do you think Nanoha's hair is? I've heard brown, auburn and red, but I definitely think auburn is the one that fits most.

 

[Leidolf]

Isn't Artemis an eternal virgin so she adopts female demigods who also vow celibacy in that series? How'd she have a daughter?

Edit: Read that wrong. Sorry.

 

[Mr Coin00]

@Amaranth, in my opinion. Good point. Nanoha and Artemis may share the same hair color and both are determinators in their own story. The two of them are Loyal to people they consider as friends. Artemis would even like to recruit Nanoha as a fellow huntress. But did you even consider that Nanoha would be disturbed and exasperated at the mind set that the Arthemis and her guards share with each other? And Arthemis is a huntress, explosions is a big no no to her fighting style. They might nag and start a fight with each other because of their differences.

If you want destruction, get Hephaestus and Nanoha talking with each other. who knows maybe Hephaestus would start forging Mage staves that can blow up huge stuff after getting inspiration from Nanoha and her Raising Heart.

@Leidolf, no worries.

 

[Amaranth]

Isn't Artemis an eternal virgin so she adopts female demigods who also vow celibacy in that series? How'd she have a daughter?

Edit: Read that wrong. Sorry.

That didn't stop Nanoha from adopting Vivio, did it? Given how the huntresses are, they are pretty much her daughters.

@Amaranth, in my opinion. Good point. Nanoha and Artemis may share the same hair color and both are determinators in their own story. The two of them are Loyal to people they consider as friends. Artemis would even like to recruit Nanoha as a fellow huntress. But did you even consider that Nanoha would be disturbed and exasperated at the mind set that the Arthemis and her guards share with each other? And Arthemis is a huntress, explosions is a big no no to her fighting style. They might nag and start a fight with each other because of their differences.

If you want destruction, get Hephaestus and Nanoha talking with each other. who knows maybe Hephaestus would start forging Mage staves that can blow up huge stuff after getting inspiration from Nanoha and her Raising Heart.

@Leidolf, no worries.

I've always wanted to see how Nanoha would react to someone who prefers stealth to just bombing stuff like a Su 27. Also, I don't think she would be disturbed at that. If you mean the boy stuff, Artemis is relatively tame. Even at her worst, she's nowhere near as aggressive as the rest of the Olympians (except Apollo, but nobody takes Apollo seriously). Hell, the only men that she has met have all had their asses saved and she has shown more concern than she has for some of her hunters (somewhere into the Titan's Curse, it sounds like the reason she keeps men at arms length is less because of the chaste huntress thing and more because getting involved with men always ends in tragedy).

What amuses me is the idea of Nanoha meeting someone who could be her twin.

As for Hephaestus, you don't get more broken than the Master Bolt and Poseidon's trident. Hell, I'd argue Jason's Ivlivs is just a Roman Bardiche, given what Jason can and has done.

 

[Van Silverlight]

I've been thinking about yuuno scrya with Yuuki Terumi fighting style. Does it sound too OOC to the point of not making any sense or there are still some possibility for it?

 

[Leidolf]

Who's that?

*a quick internet search later*

Yes. Yes it is. Though you could have it so that it's just his fighting style is brutal, a combination of strike arts and chains, because he's dealt with Lost Logia thieves all his life as a Scrya. In fact, it could be the Scrya Clan as a whole that fights viciously to protect archeological sites and why he's they are Dreaded by certain parties.

 

[Van Silverlight]

Who's that?

*a quick internet search later*

Yes. Yes it is. Though you could have it so that it's just his fighting style is brutal, a combination of strike arts and chains, because he's dealt with Lost Logia thieves all his life as a Scrya. In fact, it could be the Scrya Clan as a whole that fights viciously to protect archeological sites and why he's they are Dreaded by certain parties.

Well, I'm not going to copy paste Terumi's personality to Yuuno (even though I have the interest in doing it) because that would totally denied Yuuno's characteristic.

Like you said, "a combination of strike arts (in Scrya's case, their own martial art ) and chains" (bindings spells which is Yuuno speciallized in), in some events that involve Bad Guy that really pissed Yuuno off that ended up him stopping them in "brutal and inhumanely manners" which developed the fighting style that was mentioned earlier.

At first, its just spur of the moment, caused by his raging emotion and arrogance to accept the evil doings but then, at some point, it awakens his blood lust. Seeing his certain types of "enemy" suffered give him the feeling of satisfaction and enjoyment.

He didn't totally become sadistic though. He only used this fighting style when his opponents either really,really,really pissed him off or bad guys who refuses to accept their doing as evil or in almost rare to non case, people who refuse to accept their "stupidity" in serious/important stuff. In normal battles, he just use his regular binding spells to defeat his opponents.

P.S: I really wan to hear him saying this quote while "finish" them :

"DIE,DIE,DIE,DIE,DIE,DIE,DIE,DIE,DIE,DIE,DIE,DIE,DIE,DIE....DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

[Epsilon]

As a BB player who mains Terumi, I approve.

Also, Yuuno needs to do taunt combos.

 

[Van Silverlight]

As a BB player who mains Terumi, I approve.

Also, Yuuno needs to do taunt combos.

Well, its not easy to come up with taunt for Yuuno considering he was very nice in the series.That said, what do you propose?

 

[Epsilon]

Like this.

 

[Van Silverlight]

Hey guys, if I need info about Nanoha's physical appearances ( not her three sizes, mind you. More like her hair colour, eyes colour and etc), where would I start?

 

[Mr Coin00]

Let us start with auburn hair, her hair was often described as brown in fanon that I could mistaken her as Hayate until Nanoha's name is mentioned.

 

[Van Silverlight]

Let us start with auburn hair, her hair was often described as brown in fanon that I could mistaken her as Hayate until Nanoha's name is mentioned.

Weird, most of fan fic I read describe Nanoha as a brunette.Does Auburn hair owners are also counted as brunette? Anyway, I read something that really bothers me today

VERY IMPORTANT: Belkan and Mid-Childan Magic are unable to cause physical wounds unless poorly controlled or the user is FULLY intent on killing, no matter how badly someone is hit by it.

^Is that true or just fan theory?

 

[Azure]

VERY IMPORTANT: Belkan and Mid-Childan Magic are unable to cause physical wounds unless poorly controlled or the user is FULLY intent on killing, no matter how badly someone is hit by it.

^Is that true or just fan theory?

This is true, modern magic is set to stun, and most of the time can't hurt kill people, which is why the TSAB prefers to use it over mass weapons. That said most people interpret that as magic having a kill switch, meaning that you could make magic lethal if needed. Also ancient Belkan magic might not have this stun mode, so I have seen people interpret the Wolks as having to hold back to not kill Nanoha and Co during A's.

That said, remember that mages have Barrier Jackets, and those can tanks mass weapon and magic, so it's not like they would be defenseless when faced against lethal force.

 

[Leidolf]

Brunette is brownish, which is how her hair looks in some light. Auburn is brownish-red for the most part, like the leaves of a tree in autumn turning red.

Also, that's I'm fairly sure all spells (especially ones that are powered by a device) have safety-limiters by TSAB regulation so that they can be calibrated based on how much damage it takes to break through the barrier jacket, which actually covers the entire body and not just clothes. Killing someone with a spell means purposely breaking through their jackets by transmitting enough force that it wrecks their internal organs or circumventing their barrier jacket entirely, and would likely turn someone to a stain on the wall.

Unless you can justify lethal force then you've committed murder. Hayate's family didn't likely have these installed since they were a defense program from long before the TSAB came around, but they held their punches back on her order. After they joined the TSAB it was likely another story entirely.

In short, the spells cause wounds and hurt like hell depending on how strong the barrier jacket is compared to the spell. If your Barrier Jacket can take 50 points of damage, getting hit by anything from 51 (a scratch or bruise) to 150 (stain on the wall) will be noticeable. If we're using StrikerS as an example, the reason Vivio survived 4 Starlight breakers was because her barrier jacket required such a ridiculous amount of force to penetrate. That same spell on virtually anything less or without magic cancel would likely be pounded to stardust.

 

[Van Silverlight]

Brunette is brownish, which is how her hair looks in some light. Auburn is brownish-red for the most part, like the leaves of a tree in autumn turning red.

Also, that's I'm fairly sure all spells (especially ones that are powered by a device) have safety-limiters by TSAB regulation so that they can be calibrated based on how much damage it takes to break through the barrier jacket, which actually covers the entire body and not just clothes. Killing someone with a spell means purposely breaking through their jackets by transmitting enough force that it wrecks their internal organs or circumventing their barrier jacket entirely, and would likely turn someone to a stain on the wall.

Unless you can justify lethal force then you've committed murder. Hayate's family didn't likely have these installed since they were a defense program from long before the TSAB came around, but they held their punches back on her order. After they joined the TSAB it was likely another story entirely.

In short, the spells cause wounds and hurt like hell depending on how strong the barrier jacket is compared to the spell. If your Barrier Jacket can take 50 points of damage, getting hit by anything from 51 (a scratch or bruise) to 150 (stain on the wall) will be noticeable. If we're using StrikerS as an example, the reason Vivio survived 4 Starlight breakers was because her barrier jacket required such a ridiculous amount of force to penetrate. That same spell on virtually anything less or without magic cancel would likely be pounded to stardust.

Vivio's Kaiser Armor is not the original one right? I mean, not Olivie's?

That said, I'm surprised that Mid-Childa's magic was invented specifically not for killing. I always thought it just plot device.

 

[Leidolf]

I don't know if it's the original, but it still made her a credible threat to one of the TSAB's most powerful mages.

Anything can be used for killing, so why should magic be the exception? It's just that considering how things look from the backdrop they decided that if they're going to go around and be the police force they can't kill everything that opposes them and put a dampener on their spells. The fact that Barrier Jackets can deal with both mass and magic based attacks means that banning kinetic weapons gives them a larger amount of control since A-rankers capable of such powerful spells are easier to keep in check as only a small percentage of the population is at that level.

You don't see mages in this series using their more serious offensive magic on non-mages for a reason, namely no barrier jacket. The Force series antagonists had magic cancel was so strong that it bordered on Game Breaker until they came up with a way of neutralizing it, so they tried switching to kinetic weapons without breaking the ban by converting magic power. Even then it was a hard sell, so you could see why they went back to girls beating on each other in Vivid.

 

[Van Silverlight]

"girls beating each other"

For some reason, that sounds more brutal than FORCE. This "kinetic weapons" are firearms IRL, right? Do they poses threat to mages life if they are used against them? Are they able to penetrate barrier jackets or at least possible to do so?

 

[Amaranth]

Brunette is brownish, which is how her hair looks in some light. Auburn is brownish-red for the most part, like the leaves of a tree in autumn turning red.

Also, that's I'm fairly sure all spells (especially ones that are powered by a device) have safety-limiters by TSAB regulation so that they can be calibrated based on how much damage it takes to break through the barrier jacket, which actually covers the entire body and not just clothes. Killing someone with a spell means purposely breaking through their jackets by transmitting enough force that it wrecks their internal organs or circumventing their barrier jacket entirely, and would likely turn someone to a stain on the wall.

Unless you can justify lethal force then you've committed murder. Hayate's family didn't likely have these installed since they were a defense program from long before the TSAB came around, but they held their punches back on her order. After they joined the TSAB it was likely another story entirely.

In short, the spells cause wounds and hurt like hell depending on how strong the barrier jacket is compared to the spell. If your Barrier Jacket can take 50 points of damage, getting hit by anything from 51 (a scratch or bruise) to 150 (stain on the wall) will be noticeable. If we're using StrikerS as an example, the reason Vivio survived 4 Starlight breakers was because her barrier jacket required such a ridiculous amount of force to penetrate. That same spell on virtually anything less or without magic cancel would likely be pounded to stardust.

Vivio's Kaiser Armor is not the original one right? I mean, not Olivie's?

That said, I'm surprised that Mid-Childa's magic was invented specifically not for killing. I always thought it just plot device.

I knew Nanoha's hair was auburn! I mean, I can't see her as a brunette in any way!

Also, from what I know, magic is widely believed to have a filter that can make it lethal, rather than it relying on force and barrier jackets... That said, physical attacks still have the same effect, and if you're not using a barrier jacket and get hit head on by an Starlight Breaker, the pressure alone should pulverize you...

"girls beating each other"

For some reason, that sounds more brutal than FORCE. This "kinetic weapons" are firearms IRL, right? Do they poses threat to mages life if they are used against them? Are they able to penetrate barrier jackets or at least possible to do so?

No. They literally fire projectiles of kinetic force. It's like getting hit by an invisible missile... In a way, it's telekinesis...

 

[Azure]

"girls beating each other"

For some reason, that sounds more brutal than FORCE. This "kinetic weapons" are firearms IRL, right? Do they poses threat to mages life if they are used against them? Are they able to penetrate barrier jackets or at least possible to do so?

FORCE's AEC weapons are basically magically powered railguns and plasma rifles, so yes they should be strong enough to penetrate barrier jackets and hurt mages. The reason the TSAB mainly uses magic is because it can be set to non-lethal, unlike mass weapons.

 

[Van Silverlight]

Man, I thought it was nuclear powered weapon.

So, Mid CHilda magic mostly set as non-lethal. Well that interesting.

Um, Guys, one more question, I'm currently writing a Nanoverse fan fic right now and I'm planning to create an OC as one of the main cast. Any ideas about how to prevent him/her from becoming Mary Stu?

 

[Azure]

Man, I thought it was nuclear powered weapon.

So, Mid CHilda magic mostly set as non-lethal. Well that interesting.

Um, Guys, one more question, I'm currently writing a Nanoverse fan fic right now and I'm planning to create an OC as one of the main cast. Any ideas about how to prevent him/her from becoming Mary Stu?

Well, there are exceptions to the non-lethal thing, like Isis in Force fights using chemical bombs that she detonates with her magic and those are very lethal.

Anyhow, about your OC, the important thing would be to make them a real character, with flaws and virtues, and one that doesn't overshadow the other characters. S/He should be an addition to the cast not a replacement.

 

[Mr Coin00]

With other destructive magic and countless lost logia that can destroy worlds, the idea of using nuclear power magic is/might be pretty obselete or even very low tech. I could imagine OC helping out with allies and enemies thinking, "What cave did this person come from." Or something.

 

[Amaranth]

With other destructive magic and countless lost logia that can destroy worlds, the idea of using nuclear power magic is/might be pretty obselete or even very low tech. I could imagine OC helping out with allies and enemies thinking, "What cave did this person come from." Or something.

Err, those Lost Logia are nearly useless or outright unstable. The most destructive thing they have is the Arc En Ciel which generates little fallout. They literally have no weapons that could be used to render a planet uninhabitable, whereas nukes can...

I don't think they see mass weapons as low tech, specially when most of their technology is magitek. They are more likely to see it as "pure technology" or as "savage" much like how Romans viewed Greeks as barbarians for using archers...

 

[Azure]

With other destructive magic and countless lost logia that can destroy worlds, the idea of using nuclear power magic is/might be pretty obselete or even very low tech. I could imagine OC helping out with allies and enemies thinking, "What cave did this person come from." Or something.

Err, those Lost Logia are nearly useless or outright unstable. The most destructive thing they have is the Arc En Ciel which generates little fallout. They literally have no weapons that could be used to render a planet uninhabitable, whereas nukes can...

I don't think they see mass weapons as low tech, specially when most of their technology is magitek. They are more likely to see it as "pure technology" or as "savage" much like how Romans viewed Greeks as barbarians for using archers...

Yeah, back in the day mass weapons were also advanced and used in the war, the idea was not that mass weapons are salvage, but rather that everybody can use them and unlike magic they can't be set to stun. Basically not that we are in a relative peace-time the TSAB sealed all those world destroying weapons, be they mass or magic ones. I mean, the TSAB quickly developed mass weapons with the AEC project, so it's not like they don't know how to make and use them.