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nintendokid said:
The cursed seal isn't a high risk scenario if Orochimaru knows the nature of both seals, which he seems to have a grasp on both. The seal Naruto has on him makes it so that he can use Kyuubi's chakra in times of great need, when his body is low on chakra; normally, his body just uses his own chakra to push Kyuubi's away. The cursed seal wouldn't change that, so unless it somehow completely emptied Naruto's natural reserves, that shouldn't even be an issue.
And the thing with Akatsuki is you're assuming that Orochimaru would fight fair or on his own. Why would he? He has no reason to, and he's not exactly hurting for subordinates. Kabuto is always with him, and pre-timeskip, at the age of 19, he was as strong as Kakashi and managed not to get smeared by Tsunade, which means he could be pretty damned strong in Part two.
Also, if Orochimaru was worried about Akatsuki, he could easily work out plans with Suigetsu, Karin, Juugo, etc. Suigetsu might want to kill him in PTS, but we don't know when Orochimaru started experimenting on him, he could easily decide to recruit him permanently beforehand and avoid that problem altogether. Karin is loyal to Orochimaru to begin with. And Juugo is batshit insane, just let him out of his cage to fight someone, anyone and he'll fight them.
Plus, Itachi was convinced that he AND Kisame couldn't beat Jiraiya, why would that be so much different for Orochimaru? Especially if he used Edo Tensei; Akatsuki would have to find a way to seal the souls he summons. That jutsu alone makes Orochimaru a major threat to any two man team.
You're also mistaking strength with resilience. Hidan was NOT that strong; he lost to arguably a total weakling, and Orochimaru is at least as smart as Shikamaru. Plus Hidan is out of commission the second he has his head cut off if Kakuzu is too busy to sew it back on. And Kakuzu would be more difficult, but certainly not impossible.
I don't even need to really explain the other members, since they're all beatable, even if they are strong. I was just using those two as an example.
The vessel thing is arguable. It all depends on how much he knows about bijuu and jinchuuriki from his time in Akatsuki. He could very easily know that there is no risk or the risk is too high. You're just guessing that it's such a high risk scenario. I'll not fault your logic on that one, but the problem is that this is fantasy where all sorts of crazy shit can be explained away, so I don't think that this would be a major obstacle for him. Because even if his jutsu fails, as it did with Itachi and Sasuke, he can still transfer to another body, like he did right after attempting it with Itachi and failing miserably. He would need to plan ahead, but that's just common sense.
As for the chakra thing, well you're still guessing. The seal, so long as it isn't soul dependent, should work exactly the same for Orochimaru. He could even research ways to make it work better. As for the four tail thing killing someone, that's merely a physical issue. Naruto's body is adjusted to the chakra, so he won't die, but if Orochimaru takes over his body, it's still Naruto's body, not Orochimaru, so there's no issue there either.
And finally, who's to say that Orochimaru can only keep a body for three years? His body could have started failing him because of four tailed Kyuubi. One nick poisoned Sakura pretty badly; Orochimaru was blown apart from a direct blast. His body could have easily started failing right then and there. And if started failing and kyuubi couldn't heal it, then it'd still die just as soon as Orochimaru got a new host and stopped medicating Naruto's body. So I don't see any reason why it's not possible.
Orochimaru clearly does not know the Dead demon consuming seal, so that argument just failed. Sarutobi uses it on him, and he has NO idea what's going on (He stabs him and shows surprise that Sarutobi doesn't dodge it). I'll give you he may have intimate knowledge of the curse seal, but the dead demon consuming seal is beyond his knowledge as shown by cannon. Also a little of the Kyuubi's chakra is always filtered into Naruto, and it is 'part' of the reason for Naruto's large reserves. Orochimaru might not survive something that Naruto has adapted to since birth.
Okay, in terms of fighting fair I will agree with, but the other side wouldn't fight fair too. And like I said, it's a risk, not a sure fire thing. Akatsuki stands a very good chance of killing him no matter what. Heck, Deidara could just carpet bomb Sound, and roast quite a few of his defenses, and don't get me started on the destructive power of Kuzaku and his masks. And I'm not going into another Kabuto thing, because Naruto creams him with Rasengan right there, and he's nowhere near Kakashi's level. That it was a draw is irrelevent (though admittedly Naruto would have died, but that he managed to knock him unconcious...).
Okay, working out plans is all well and good, but once again, they might not be as strong post Time skip (though Juugo is probably), and I seriously doubt they are Akatsuki level. Even then like I said, it's not likely Akatsuki would play fair either. Just a pair of them would obliterate anything in their way, and that's not counting if Akatsuki decided to send MORE members after them.
The Jiraya thing is iffy, and I've gotten into a similar argument with this. I've said time and again that it was probably recon to confirm the location of the Kyuubi vessal. Even if they did capture Naruto, they would not have been able to use him for three years. Why start a battle where they could get rather wounded and later captured for something that wouldn't be useful to them for years. However I do not want to get into another arguement over this, so I'll just agree to disagree in this issue. Besides, Itachi is heavily hinted as being stronger than Orochimaru, and he was weakened in his previous battle against Kakashi.
Kuzaku is what I call massive force. His moves cause massive damage to a massive area, especially when combined. Just look at the combo of his wind and fire move. Not much could stand against that. Sure he's not invincible, but I'd say he stands a high chance of killing Orochimaru. Hidan I'll agree with, but I'd just like to note that he's a tricky opponant. One cut is all he'd need to get Orochimaru's blood, and after that his Shed skin move won't save him from death.
And yes, all the Akatsuki members are beatable, but like I said, it's a HUGE risk. You said before Orochimaru is as smart as Shikamaru. Taking that kind of risk is just stupid, and something that is largely advised against. This whole plot point is one massive risk against another, and Orochimaru quite simply isn't that stupid.
The vessal thing I'll admit is either high or low risk, but even if it was, all the other risks just add up, even without this one. Also he didn't use his jutsu on Itachi. Where do you get that?
Actuall the issue with four tail is that Naruto's chakra is somehow able to repel the Kyuubi's. If Orochimaru takes him, he may get some of that safety (Sasuke absorbs some of Orochimaru's powers), but since it will be largely his charka, much of the safety will be lost. This is also cannon (Tenzou says it when they start the wind training. Kishimoto put it to note that Naruto's chakra is special).
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here shows that he is forced to change every three years, and it's not just the Four Tail Kyuubi that did him in. The adverse reaction would doubly apply to Naruto.
Overall this plotline is simply one huge risk after another, and I doubt Orochimaru would leap through all these risks just for a body that may not even be compatable. There are quite simply too many risks in this scenario.
However like I said, the author has done well so far in the story since he has had Akatsuki take action against Naruto. Overall though with a lesser writer this plot would be instant fail. It's like Dichotomy of Kazama Naruto, a bad plot done by an excellent writer can make an excellent story.