silksponge said:
While I'm sure your preference lies with the CP9 arc in any case, I was referring to the arcs themselves, not the more viable movie adaptation. If that was what you were going for, my mistake if I've misread this latest post, then on that we can agree easily enough. I just feel that the arc was more emotionally charged and satisfying at the end of the battles, not by much more, but by enough. CP9 was pushed toward more Epic levels, I think, because of the introduction of so many new moves and abilities, added to the appearance and gaining of Franky and, of course, the emotion found in Robin's past and rescue( The exchange between the crew and her topped with the burning of the WG flag was heavy).
I suppose I actually would call them equal all in all, because Water 7 goes hand in hand with CP9.
Was arguing for both in the first post, but movie only for the second. Perhaps getting ahead of myself a bit, but the enemies in the CP9 arc were more epic overall than the ones in Skypedia. Granted Enel was pretty cool himself, the problem however lays with his subordinates, the preists... let's be honest, NONE of those guys were memorable enough that they really stand out. Hell, I don't remember any of their names. However in the CP9 this is much less accurate. That first and foremost made it lean in their favor, along with the other stuff. But note that I'm really in it for the fight scenes.
Movie wise though, what I meant was you can, easily, skip a majority of the Water 7 arc without losing a lot. At the very least all that's needed is the loss to Lucci, meaning, as I said before, you could start it at the Invasion and tell the rest in flashbacks, however for epic win you can also start it with the Luffy vs. Usopp battle, peice together small bits from what remains of the water 7 arc, and already begin the invasion within the first 25 minutes (Skipping of course a majority of the train ride, though you could easily add Sanji and Usopp's loss for additional effect). In this case the main goal, the Rescue of Robin, is completely preserved.
In Skypedia? At bare minimum, you have to have the man who sends them on their way, and the story behind Jala told there. Skypedia losses a MASSIVE amount of effect without it. The entire point, the bell, literally serves no purpose. I say Luffy vs. Spring guy is also important, if only because the battle was epic, but it also adds to the whole point of dreams. I will conceed that Blackbeard could be skipped though. Then from the entry to skypedia also takes quite a bit of buildup, and the group of former island dwellers also needs development, as I said. In CP9 you can easily cut out a lot of the shipwrights without losing much. In this case, the Jala inhabitents are also a large part of the plot. Hence why, movie wise, the CP9 arc is easier to edit.
And while the sixth was rather WTF!?, I can't call it bad either because of Luffy, hedgehogged with and wading through the field of arrow for his crew was pretty damn awesome, even if he looked like a zombie. Plus I liked the style they used in that movie, as well.
Yeah... seriously, I have no idea what to say about that movie... I mean, there was awesome, but frankly that entire movie I was WTF?!ing... The style was pretty intriguing, and suffice to say the format was VASTLY superior to the only thing similar in the manga, the Davey Jones brawl against Foxie... an Arc many would like to forget. The ending was also pretty satisfying...
... Seriously though, WTF.
Personally my favorite would have to be the one with the Jellyman... there was kind of a Sueish OC in that, but that battle was pretty blasted awesome. Also 7 was kinda WTFy too... if only because there seemed to be a suddenly large amount of Breast scenes involved... The swordsman one actually came up in my mind when I watched the second Bleach Movie, all things considered, and the other one focusing on Chopper was pretty weird too... I recall the other two, but don't have much to say about them. Though that one with Sanji getting speared with that spiked ball had a few cool moments.
Also thanks for the reminder. Brook deserves props too.
Win is approaching critical mass though- And I thought that teaser looked familiar:
Holy crap... Franky even has the bazooka...
Edit: Yes, Merry's Death was tearjerky... but Chopper's story always hit me harder... :blue:
As for Movie 9, most of the good parts could frankly be found in the manga, and the whole trap thing made more sense, but none the less it brought tears to my eyes. Also Wapol's brother wasn't that bad a fighter... though Third was way too much for him. Most of the bad part involved the complete Timeline rape, and also the fact that Monster wasn't used when it would have been epic.
