Sailor Moon Question about canon Sailor Moon

[Reader458]

No. Anime made the items magically get summoned because in the manga most of the items and such were either carried in their pockets (disguise pen, Mercury computer, Deep Aqua Mirroe)? or hanging off their skirts/pants (Space Sword, Rose Belt, Chains.) But the anime never once referred to it as a subspace pocket. The senshi never acknowledged it.

Oh. Thanks.

 

[nuclear death frog]

Question. What interval of time did Minako spend in England, if she ever actually was there to begin with? I've seen it written as a few weeks (a vacation) and I've seen it written as years. Help, please?

 

[Deleted member 5249]

Question. What interval of time did Minako spend in England, if she ever actually was there to begin with? I've seen it written as a few weeks (a vacation) and I've seen it written as years. Help, please?

Honestly It was a anime only detail and to my knowledge I don't remember it stating a time frame. It looked at least to be a few months considering how familiar Minako was with everyone.

 

[seitora]

my own question

what does the '-no' that the five Inners have at the end of their surnames (TsukiNO, MizuNO, AiNO, etc.) mean exactly? I get there's a theme, but what does it actually mean?

The same for the Outers and their '-oh' suffix or whatever it is depending on how it's translated.

 

[biigoh]

my own question

what does the '-no' that the five Inners have at the end of their surnames (TsukiNO, MizuNO, AiNO, etc.) mean exactly? I get there's a theme, but what does it actually mean?

The same for the Outers and their '-oh' suffix or whatever it is depending on how it's translated.

Tsunkino Usagi... Tsuki (moon) no (of) Usagi (bunny). So Rabbit of Moon. And so on.

Also the oh, is I think King or Ruler?

So, yeah... B)

But I could be wrong.

 

[Deleted member 5249]

my own question

what does the '-no' that the five Inners have at the end of their surnames (TsukiNO, MizuNO, AiNO, etc.) mean exactly? I get there's a theme, but what does it actually mean?

The same for the Outers and their '-oh' suffix or whatever it is depending on how it's translated.

Tsunkino Usagi... Tsuki (moon) no (of) Usagi (bunny). So Rabbit of Moon. And so on.

Also the oh, is I think King or Ruler?

So, yeah... B)

But I could be wrong.

You're right.

Oh/Ouh/Ou is King.

Kaioh Michiru-Rising Sea King
Tenoh Haruka-Distant Sky King
Meiou Setsuna-Momentary Dark/Underworld King

 

[seitora]

ah, and then Ami would be "Of Mist" and Rei "Of Fire". Not sure what Minako and Makoto's name would work out to.

What about Hotaru? I have no idea if Tomoe is supposed to follow the same pattern as the rest of the Outers or if it's standalone

 

[Deleted member 5249]

ah, and then Ami would be "Of Mist" and Rei "Of Fire". Not sure what Minako and Makoto's name would work out to.

What about Hotaru? I have no idea if Tomoe is supposed to follow the same pattern as the rest of the Outers or if it's standalone

Tomoe breaks the pattern of the other senshi.

Tomoe Hotaru-Firefly sprouting from earth.

Mizuno Ami-Friend of Water (Mercury=Suisei=Water Star)
Hino Rei-Spirit of Fire (Mars=Kasei=Fire Star)
Kino Makoto-Sincerity of Wood/Faithfulness of Wood (Jupiter=Mokusei=Wood Star)
Aino Minako- Beautiful Child of Love/Beautiful Love Child
(Minako breaks the theme naming by having her last name be Love instead of Metal. Venus=Kinsei in Japanese meaning Metal star.)

 

[seitora]

Interesting.

What about Mamoru? Any meaning to his name?

Any other interesting name meanings you can think of?

 

[nuclear death frog]

The "no" in the original five (Moon, Mercury, Mars, Jupiter, Venus) sailor's family names is NOT the preposition 'of'. It's ?, which means "a field" or "a plain". Basically, their names SOUND LIKE, but do not literally mean:
Usagi of the Moon
Ami of Water
Rei of Fire
Makoto of Wood
Minako of Love

Haruka, Michiru, and Setsuna's family names do indeed have the character for "ruler/king" as the second kanji. Respectively, they are "heavens king" or "sky king"; "ocean king"; and "dark king". Their personal names SOUND LIKE, but do not mean, respectively, "distant/remote" (Haruka), "to rise" [as the tide] (Michiru), and "instant/moment" (Setsuna).

Hotaru's name doesn't fit either of the above patterns. Her family name's first character means "earth" (as in soil) and the second means "to germinate" or "to sprout".

Chiba Mamoru's name is pretty literal. His personal name is a literal Japanese word meaning "to protect" or "to guard", and his family name's first character (?) is the first in the Japanese name for the planet Earth. Overall, his name basically means "Earth protector".

 

[seitora]

So I've slugged through the first seven chapters of the manga.

I'm impressed. They really made anime Tuxedo Mask a relative deadweight. Not to mention Mamoru is in Grade 11 in the manga, so 16 or 17, but 'college-age' in the anime. Far less pedophilish when there's only a 3 year difference.

 

[Deleted member 5249]

So I've slugged through the first seven chapters of the manga.

I'm impressed. They really made anime Tuxedo Mask a relative deadweight. Not to mention Mamoru is in Grade 11 in the manga, so 16 or 17, but 'college-age' in the anime. Far less pedophilish when there's only a 3 year difference.

Director hated Mamoru and wanted to make the series a Yuri series. So he did all that .

 

[Ordo]

That's kind of petty, and fairly disrespectful to the author.

 

[seitora]

Up to Act 10.

If I'm reading the segment with the moon cats right late in Chapter 9, then in the manga they never lost their memories, but instead Luna had most of her memories sealed away as part of a feint?

 

[Ordo]

Why would the anime change that....it make more sense and it makes it clear that the good guys were thinking ahead when it came to fighting the forces of darkness?

 

[Deleted member 5249]

The anime Made the cats pretty much absolutely useless. Luna IIRC cancelled out a attack by Metallia in the manga that was more useful then anything the inner senshi at that point could currently do. The anime also can't keep it's storyline steady when it had to copy the manga because it changed too many things already.

But the feint was neccessary in protecting Usagi for a little bit more. That is why Venus called herself Princess Serenity too.

Though the anime did give me the Male!Starlights so I can't totally write it off.

 

[Ordo]

Though the anime did give me the Male!Starlights so I can't totally write it off.

Which is curious since you say the director wanted a yuri show....

 

[Deleted member 5249]

Though the anime did give me the Male!Starlights so I can't totally write it off.

Which is curious since you say the director wanted a yuri show....

He wanted Rei/Usagi to be canon. If he stayed closer to the manga the anime would amusingly have more Yuri undertones. Manga!Rei absolutely hated men and vowed her chastity to Usagi. Anime!Rei dated Mamoru. Everyone in the manga was gay for Usagi even Usagi is gay for Usagi.

Manga!Usagi definitely kissed more girls.

 

[Prince Charon]

Though the anime did give me the Male!Starlights so I can't totally write it off.

Which is curious since you say the director wanted a yuri show....

He wanted Rei/Usagi to be canon. If he stayed closer to the manga the anime would amusingly have more Yuri undertones. Manga!Rei absolutely hated men and vowed her chastity to Usagi. Anime!Rei dated Mamoru. Everyone in the manga was gay for Usagi even Usagi is gay for Usagi.

Manga!Usagi definitely kissed more girls.

Usagi is also rather gay for Rei. If you can find it again, there's a bit when she first meets Rei that proves it, IIRC. "I'll do anything this pretty girl tells me to do," or something like that.

If the director did want to do a yuri show, why remove things like that? Was he not totally in control?

 

[seitora]

Why would the anime change that....it make more sense and it makes it clear that the good guys were thinking ahead when it came to fighting the forces of darkness?

I dunno, I haven't watched past the first few episodes of the anime. Most of what I know of Sailor Moon would be from fanfics.

But my rule of thumb is that if something that gets repeated a lot in fanfics contradicts the manga, it's a matter of the anime wildly diverging and most authors using the anime as their base as opposed to actual canon. Moon cats actually losing their memories is one of them, as opposed to Artemis still having all his memories and Luna having some of hers sealed away for a feint.

For example, going off the last couple of chapters I've read, I'm guessing anime!Queen Serenity actually sealed Queen Beryl away, while in the manga Sailor Venus dusted her until Beryl later reincarnated.

 

[seitora]

On a side note, speaking of the Moon Cats, I find it rather interesting that in all the panels Artemis is in, he's very rarely drawn with an actual mouth, in comparison to Luna who usually does have her mouth drawn. So he's got the whole Andalite look going.

 

[Deleted member 5249]

Though the anime did give me the Male!Starlights so I can't totally write it off.

Which is curious since you say the director wanted a yuri show....

He wanted Rei/Usagi to be canon. If he stayed closer to the manga the anime would amusingly have more Yuri undertones. Manga!Rei absolutely hated men and vowed her chastity to Usagi. Anime!Rei dated Mamoru. Everyone in the manga was gay for Usagi even Usagi is gay for Usagi.

Manga!Usagi definitely kissed more girls.

Usagi is also rather gay for Rei. If you can find it again, there's a bit when she first meets Rei that proves it, IIRC. "I'll do anything this pretty girl tells me to do," or something like that.

If the director did want to do a yuri show, why remove things like that? Was he not totally in control?

That is less Usagi being gay for Rei as it is a automatic response to anyone who first meets Rei.

 

[Prince Charon]

Though the anime did give me the Male!Starlights so I can't totally write it off.

Which is curious since you say the director wanted a yuri show....

He wanted Rei/Usagi to be canon. If he stayed closer to the manga the anime would amusingly have more Yuri undertones. Manga!Rei absolutely hated men and vowed her chastity to Usagi. Anime!Rei dated Mamoru. Everyone in the manga was gay for Usagi even Usagi is gay for Usagi.

Manga!Usagi definitely kissed more girls.

Usagi is also rather gay for Rei. If you can find it again, there's a bit when she first meets Rei that proves it, IIRC. "I'll do anything this pretty girl tells me to do," or something like that.

If the director did want to do a yuri show, why remove things like that? Was he not totally in control?

That is less Usagi being gay for Rei as it is a automatic response to anyone who first meets Rei.

Really? Plenty of fic potential in that.

Hot lesbian threesome with Haruka and Michiru, for example.

 

[Deleted member 5249]

Though the anime did give me the Male!Starlights so I can't totally write it off.

Which is curious since you say the director wanted a yuri show....

He wanted Rei/Usagi to be canon. If he stayed closer to the manga the anime would amusingly have more Yuri undertones. Manga!Rei absolutely hated men and vowed her chastity to Usagi. Anime!Rei dated Mamoru. Everyone in the manga was gay for Usagi even Usagi is gay for Usagi.

Manga!Usagi definitely kissed more girls.

Usagi is also rather gay for Rei. If you can find it again, there's a bit when she first meets Rei that proves it, IIRC. "I'll do anything this pretty girl tells me to do," or something like that.

If the director did want to do a yuri show, why remove things like that? Was he not totally in control?

That is less Usagi being gay for Rei as it is a automatic response to anyone who first meets Rei.

Really? Plenty of fic potential in that.

Hot lesbian threesome with Haruka and Michiru, for example.

Michiru is too possessive of Haruka. She'd kill Rei before she'd let that happen. That's the same girl who would have let Earth blow up then live a world without Haruka.

 

[Prince Charon]

Though the anime did give me the Male!Starlights so I can't totally write it off.

Which is curious since you say the director wanted a yuri show....

He wanted Rei/Usagi to be canon. If he stayed closer to the manga the anime would amusingly have more Yuri undertones. Manga!Rei absolutely hated men and vowed her chastity to Usagi. Anime!Rei dated Mamoru. Everyone in the manga was gay for Usagi even Usagi is gay for Usagi.

Manga!Usagi definitely kissed more girls.

Usagi is also rather gay for Rei. If you can find it again, there's a bit when she first meets Rei that proves it, IIRC. "I'll do anything this pretty girl tells me to do," or something like that.

If the director did want to do a yuri show, why remove things like that? Was he not totally in control?

That is less Usagi being gay for Rei as it is a automatic response to anyone who first meets Rei.

Really? Plenty of fic potential in that.

Hot lesbian threesome with Haruka and Michiru, for example.

Michiru is too possessive of Haruka. She'd kill Rei before she'd let that happen. That's the same girl who would have let Earth blow up then live a world without Haruka.

Huh. Oh, well. Minako and Usagi, then?