Naruto The Official Fourth Naruto Databook Thread

Knyght

The Collector
I'm of the opinion that Yagura had at least taken Isobu's chakra which was enough to say that he had mastered its power, even if they weren't buddies.

The databook does specifically call him a young man so I'd say he was somewhere in his twenties when he died whenever that was.
 

Knyght

The Collector
Well, my databook project is just about done. I've now got every translation I know of on the Naruversity more or less and in one consistent format. Turns out there's still a fair bit more untranslated than I'd realised though:

DB1 Characters: Too many to bother mentioning...

DB1 Jutsu: Uzumaki Naruto Combo, Reverse Lotus, Sexy Technique, Fang Passing Fang, Resonating Echo Drill, Puppet Technique, Sly Mind Affect Technique, Extreme Decapitating Air Waves and Decapitating Air Waves.

DB2 Characters: Karura, Konohamaru, Namiashi Raidou and Nawaki.

DB2 Jutsu: Rain of Spiders, Spider Bind, Spider Sticking Spit, Spider Cocoon, Barrier Method Formation, Leaf Great Whirlwind, Four Black Fogs Formation, Prepared Needle Shot, Dynamic Entry, Earth Release: Earth Shore Return, Earth Release: Tearing Earth Palm, Armour of Sticky Gold and Demonic Flute: Illusionary Warriors Manipulating Melody.
Glad to be done with it in any case.  :rip1:
 

Knyght

The Collector
Forgot how much of a pain in the ass this is.

Updated character section 1 with Chojuro.

Updated character section 2 with Hoozuki Suigetsu, Terumii Mei, Yakushi Kabuto and Ameyuri Ringo.

Updated character section 3 with Uchiha Obito.

Updated character section 4 with Hatake Kakashi and Sarutobi Hiruzen.

Translated by kiyoitsukikage.
 

Altered Nova

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Favourite: Suigetsu strongly longs for the Seven Ninja Swords. He tried to snatch away by force Kisame's Samehada above all the others...
He inherited the bad reputation of "Demon", the heaven-sent child of the splendidly handsome "swords"!!
With the ninja world in turmoil in front of him, the young demon swears he aspires to restore the "Seven Ninja Swordsmen".
Seriously, what the hell happened to Suigetsu over the epilogue timeskip? His personality completely changed and he abandoned his one consuming personal ambition. Why?

About 22 years ago: The gruesome affair of the village of the Blood Mist!! In the past, the Village of the Hidden Mist had the frightful habit of making the other villages tremble in fair. She as well is one of the shinobi who overcame this hardship.
This paragraph is confusing. What exactly happened 22 years ago? Mei "overcame the hardship" of her village being scary to the other ninja villages? How?
 
Altered Nova said:
Seriously, what the hell happened to Suigetsu over the epilogue timeskip? His personality completely changed and he abandoned his one consuming personal ambition. Why?
Some plot must be conserved for the boruto manga!

About 22 years ago: The gruesome affair of the village of the Blood Mist!! In the past, the Village of the Hidden Mist had the frightful habit of making the other villages tremble in fair. She as well is one of the shinobi who overcame this hardship.
This paragraph is confusing. What exactly happened 22 years ago? Mei "overcame the hardship" of her village being scary to the other ninja villages? How?
I think the correct trnaslation is:
" In the past, the Village of the Hidden Mist had a frightful custom, [such such]causing the other villages tremble in fear.
I'm guessing the "frightful custom" was the academy students having to kill a fellow student to graduate, and Meii being one of the survivors.
 

nixofcyzerra

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What if Suigetsu collected all seven swords and then was all "Now what?"

I doubt that Suigetsu would be willing to revive the Swordsmen when the five villages, Naruto and Sasuke would likely come down on him like a ton of bricks for doing so. Reforming such an elite unit could only be seen as an aggressive act, after all.
 

Knyght

The Collector
Eh, I'm not seeing it. Reforming the Swordsmen basically amounts to them retrieving the iconic tools of their villages and distributing them to their best shinobi, so calling that "aggressive" is an extreme play on words. They'd have to actually take some aggressive actions first to warrant it. Moreover Suigetsu could and should have been able to reform the Swordsmen long before Naruto came to power anyway, not that he'd really have the right to interfere even then.
 
knight504 said:
Eh, I'm not seeing it. Reforming the Swordsmen basically amounts to them retrieving the iconic tools of their villages and distributing them to their best shinobi, so calling that "aggressive" is an extreme play on words. They'd have to actually take some aggressive actions first to warrant it. Moreover Suigetsu could and should have been able to reform the Swordsmen long before Naruto came to power anyway, not that he'd really have the right to interfere even then.
Is he actually still considered apart of Kirigakure? It would be quite hard to reestablish the seven swordsman when he isn't a part of the village. Also Chojuro is the wielder of Hiramekarei, you know the guy who becomes the sixth Mizukage.
 

Altered Nova

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It would be hard for Suigetsu to recover the Swords when all of the missing blades besides Samehada were presumably recovered by Kirigakure after the zombie swordsmen who wielded them in the war were defeated and sealed away. And considering that Suigetsu worked for Akatsuki, I highly doubt that Kiri would ever accept him back... which I suppose would explain why he's living with Orochimaru in the epilogue. Huh.

Whatever happened to Samehada anyway? Did it ever reappear after Bee lost it during the Fourth Shinobi World War?

I'm really disappointed that Mei Terumi's entry doesn't explain *how* she became Mizukage. Was there a civil war in Hidden Mist (and Zabuza had to flee the village for picking the wrong side) as many fans have speculated? Did she kill Yagura?
 

Knyght

The Collector
I took it for granted that he'd return to Kiri and then reform the Swordsmen. He was, as far as we know, basically kidnapped from his home and kept imprisoned after all.

Him being given a pardon would probably be one of the less ridiculous results for a character who was on the wrong side during the last few arcs.
 

nixofcyzerra

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Even if he received a pardon, it doesn't necessarily mean he would be particularly welcome. He might have chosen to leave over being a pariah.
 

Altered Nova

Well-Known Member
knight504 said:
I took it for granted that he'd return to Kiri and then reform the Swordsmen. He was, as far as we know, basically kidnapped from his home and kept imprisoned after all.
He was kidnapped and imprisoned by Orochimaru though, not Akatsuki. Nobody forced Suigetsu to try to capture Killer Bee, or invade the Kage Summit, or assault the Raikage. He committed all those crimes of his own free will.

Of course, we know he did those things because he's inexplicably fanatically loyal to Sasuke... but the Kage don't know that. To them it must look as if Suigetsu was just another minion of Obito, working hard to help him enslave the world. Juugo at least had the excuse that only Sasuke could control his berserker rampages so he had no choice but to obey him, and thus he could plead that he was coerced into helping Obito enact the Moon's Eye Plan. Suigetsu has no such justification.

knight504 said:
Him being given a pardon would probably be one of the less ridiculous results for a character who was on the wrong side during the last few arcs.
A good point. If Kabuto can be pardoned despite being solely responsible for the zombie army that must have killed tens of thousands of ninja, including reviving fucking Madara Uchiha himself, then no crime is beyond forgiveness. I suppose Suigetsu could have argued that he helped revive Orochimaru (who raised all the previous Hokage from the dead) so he indirectly played a vital role in winning the war. That could have earned him a pardon. Or Sasuke could have simply demanded Suigetsu be pardoned and nobody would have had the guts to argue with him about it.

But as nixofcyzerra pointed out, that doesn't necessarily mean he'd be welcome in Kirigakure. Would you want to live in a village where all your neighbors know you willingly worked for the terrorist organization that mind-controlled their leader for years and which nearly enslaved the entire world? Even if you did betray that group in the end and eventually joined the fight on the Shinobi Alliance's side, a lot of Kiri-nin are still going to hold a grudge over that.
 

Altered Nova

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or the anger and sadness of having both his parents killed, Nagato awakened the "Rinnegan".
Um... what? I thought Madara transplanted his own Rinnegan eyes into Nagato in order to manipulate Nagato into unwittingly carrying out part of the Moon's Eye Plan and then sacrificing himself to resurrect Madara? And it was heavily implied that Madara had used some method for controlling Nagato, similar to how he controlled Obito with the seal on his heart - probably through the black rods that stabbed into his back and crippled him, because we know that Madara could create those rods and why they hell else would the Demonic Statue of the Outer Path have been booby trapped like that.

Seriously, they kind of made a huge deal out of all this during the last war arc. Why the fuck doesn't Nagato's databook entry include any of that? It doesn't even mention Madara or Obito!
 
I'm going to guess Madara did implant his eyes in Nagato but they were initially inactive and it took the EMOTIONS to awake them.

Of course it might be an oversight and they forgot to update his profile.
 

Knyght

The Collector
Seems like they forgot to include anything that came up about Nagato after his death.
 

Knyght

The Collector
On Nagato, I guess we aren't ever gonna get an actual explanation on exactly why he was to be stuck full of chakra strakes to turned into a husk when he activated the statue. At least I can't remember one.

Also, Seelentau made some corrections to a couple of his translations.

Six Paths Ten-Tails Coffin Seal:

Before: Obtaining the power of the ten bodies of the tailed beasts is the same as owning the power of the Six Paths Senjutsu.

After: Obtaining the power of the ten bodies of the tailed beasts is the same as owning the power of the Sage of Six Paths.

Six Paths Sage Mode:

Before: Furthermore, the returning incarnation and fate's guidance - only those who hold those are granted the Sage of Six Paths' powers.

After: Furthermore, the returning incarnation and fate's guidance - this power is granted by the Sage of Six Paths only to someone who holds those.
 

Altered Nova

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Seriously Kishimoto, you'll give us Han's height, weight, birthdate and blood type, but not his age at death? Why the hell are you keeping his age a secret?

Also, why doesn't Han have a ninja registration number? We know Iwagakure uses them, plenty of other Iwa-nin have registration numbers. Even Deidara has one listed on his profile.
 

Knyght

The Collector
It may be a matter of age since the Tsuchikages and Roushi don't have one either, where the registration system wasn't implemented until sometimes after they were ninja. Or the Tsuchikages are irrelevant and it's because Han and Roushi are jinchuuriki; they don't have ranks either, for instance.

Edit: Totally revised the thread into list format. Should make life easier (for me).
 
Jinchuriki not being given a formal registration number would fit the whole "jinchuriki are despised and discriminated"
 

Altered Nova

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knight504 said:
It may be a matter of age since the Tsuchikages and Roushi don't have one either, where the registration system wasn't implemented until sometimes after they were ninja.
That would explain why they don't have registration numbers, but it really doesn't explain the lack of an "age at death" entry in their profiles. Unless Kishimoto has some weird dislike for listing the age at death for most of his deceased old men characters.

Or are you arguing that their ages at death aren't listing because the village doesn't actually know how old they are due to them predating the introduction of Iwa's ninja registration system?

ankokudaishogun said:
Jinchuriki not being given a formal registration number would fit the whole "jinchuriki are despised and discriminated"
Naruto, Gaara, Yugito and Killer B all have registration numbers though. And Naruto, Gaara and Yugito (and Fuu in the anime) have ranks.
 

Knyght

The Collector
Altered Nova said:
knight504 said:
It may be a matter of age since the Tsuchikages and Roushi don't have one either, where the registration system wasn't implemented until sometimes after they were ninja.
That would explain why they don't have registration numbers, but it really doesn't explain the lack of an "age at death" entry in their profiles. Unless Kishimoto has some weird dislike for listing the age at death for most of his deceased old men characters.

Or are you arguing that their ages at death aren't listing because the village doesn't actually know how old they are due to them predating the introduction of Iwa's ninja registration system?
Eh, I think Kishimoto doesn't list the ages of a good number of characters to avoid raising too many questions about the timeline. By leaving it vague, it can't contradict the story.

ankokudaishogun said:
Jinchuriki not being given a formal registration number would fit the whole "jinchuriki are despised and discriminated"
Naruto, Gaara, Yugito and Killer B all have registration numbers though. And Naruto, Gaara and Yugito (and Fuu in the anime) have ranks.
In this case, it would be a type of discrimination specific to Iwa.
 
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