Akiyoshi said:
It doesn't matter who's fault it is (writter or executives), the pacing still sucks.
The irony is... the previous seasons of Nanoha had the
exact same pacing. In fact, Force is MUCH faster than the other seasons. Strikers was slow as it was, but if Force were an anime, we'd be about 6 episodes in. With A's, we had 2 fights. Force has had at least 4 or 5, including one big fight that was bigger than anything the other anime seasons had this far along.
It's the kind of thing that makes me hang my head and chuckle, of the sheer hypocrisy of people claiming there is something wrong with Force's pacing... when it is the exact same, if not faster than, every single anime season. Hell, season 1 pacing? Really?
lso more of a personal thing but i fonslly guessed one difference between Nanoha and Tohma. Kaijo is right in that they share a good deal of traits. But ultimately past seasons were more successfull at distracting me from Nanoha's flaws and blandness as. character while FORCE hasn't done a good job distracting me from Tohma's.
Distracting... right. This has always been the series MO. It's one of those things you have to accept to watch the series. Just like you have to accept long power-ups and super speed when you watch DBZ.
Honestly, while there is criticism to be had, I find it hilarious that "pacing" and "characters" are what people complain about. That's been Nanoha all along. It's like... you're just NOW figuring this out?
keroko said:
Actually, the real reason the series hasn't done a good job distracting people from that is that people are actually pointing out his flaws. Nanoha's "Let's be friends, people who just tried to murder me!" was always overlooked. Outright ignored, even. Thoma is the first character in Nanoha ever who is being told by people that "trying to be friends with criminals isn't such a good idea."
By the same people who are famous for doing that very thing.
That inexplicable hypocrisy right there is Force's biggest flaw so far.
I'd disagree. In S1 and A's, Nanoha was, perhaps, a bit naive, and her opponent's motives were a mystery. By StrikerS, she had grown up, and realized that she had to temper her idealism a bit; hence her actions in StrikerS are the same in Force. And there was never any doubt in Nanoha's mind that Fate and the Wolkies needed to be stopped.
RF6 knows that the Hucks need to be stopped. They plan to capture them and rehabilitate and cure them. They understand Thoma's attitude, but are trying to tell him not to do something stupid. They want to help the Hucks, too, just like Thoma does. But he has to seriously considering them as a dangerous enemy. There will be time for talk after.
Talk and bonding always happens after you get shot down. Nanoha has learned this. That's why we have the whole "befriend" meme.