Naruto Times the anime one-upped the manga

sith2886

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#51
OniGanon said:
A lot of the fight scenes. Oddly animated or not, most of them are still much extended and more interesting than their manga counterparts.

Voices. Obviously, the manga can't give us the characters' voices, which adds to a character's personality.

Fleshing out minor characters. Filler may be annoying, but they give far more insight into the personalities of the minor characters than the manga ever will.
Kind of disagree with this one for the same reason I've come to dislike books made into movies. I like to use my own imagination.
 

TC_Hazard

Well-Known Member
#52
sith2886 said:
OniGanon said:
A lot of the fight scenes. Oddly animated or not, most of them are still much extended and more interesting than their manga counterparts.

Voices. Obviously, the manga can't give us the characters' voices, which adds to a character's personality.

Fleshing out minor characters. Filler may be annoying, but they give far more insight into the personalities of the minor characters than the manga ever will.
Kind of disagree with this one for the same reason I've come to dislike books made into movies. I like to use my own imagination.
I don't know. It works sometimes. I hear a character talking and I think "That's it!", and every time I read about the character I read him using that voice.

And sometimes it is just bad. I mean damn it Japan is it really so hard to switch to a male voice actor once the character grow older?
 

Jzflex

Well-Known Member
#53
These scenes.

<a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpuginDNBh8&feature=related' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Magazine Shopping</a>

<a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWaMTceBdcc&feature=related' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Super Sasuke</a>
 

seitora

Well-Known Member
#54
Also, the Haku fight in particular.
 

Altered Nova

Well-Known Member
#56
Most of the anime voice acting is annoying, the animation is garbage, and 90% of the anime filler plots were dumb as hell, what with 300 dumb variations of rasengan (including his throwing the fucking thing!) and 20 variations of basic "rescue the princess" plots), but there were a few good moments. Like when team 7 spent an afternoon trying to see what Kakashi's face looked like under the mask and they even got Sasuke genuinely interested. That episode actually made me laugh.
 

Leonite

Well-Known Member
#57
I like the filler Village Hidden in the stars arc, if only because it's interesting, and the opponent is actually so strong that Naruto CAN'T finish them off by himself.
 

Ashaman

Well-Known Member
#59
Today's filler episde actually got me thinking.

What would Naruto answer to the whole "King" thing that Shika has going on?
 

seitora

Well-Known Member
#60
Altered Nova said:
Most of the anime voice acting is annoying, the animation is garbage, and 90% of the anime filler plots were dumb as hell, what with 300 dumb variations of rasengan (including his throwing the fucking thing!) and 20 variations of basic "rescue the princess" plots), but there were a few good moments. Like when team 7 spent an afternoon trying to see what Kakashi's face looked like under the mask and they even got Sasuke genuinely interested. That episode actually made me laugh.
there's some irony in that Naruto excitedly asks if his first C-Rank mission is about rescuing a princess, finds out it's basically nothing like that, and then in filler he rescues tons of princesses
 

Knyght

The Collector
#61
Ashaman said:
Today's filler episde actually got me thinking.

What would Naruto answer to the whole "King" thing that Shika has going on?
A head scratch and a shrug probably. I doubt he'd consider it important.
 

Ashaman

Well-Known Member
#62
Episode 242; not bad. Not good, but not bad either.

Seems to be the last filler too.
 

Ashaman

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#64
zeebee1 said:
Does average really count as outdoing the manga?
No, but unless there's an old topic I missed, there are no other places to discuss the anime.

ep 246. Some really good moments this ep. Minato being a boss was pretty nice, as was Kushina making that genin look pathetic - the whole outsider angle was a little weird though. My only real minus was the way Kushina got taken - running and screaming for help like helpless child, and not the genin she was. She could have at least fought back a little.
 

Knyght

The Collector
#65
Weird? How so?

And the Kumo kidnapping was disappointing. She acted like a civilian; I would have preferred it if she'd simply been knocked out and hadn't seen it coming.
 

Ashaman

Well-Known Member
#66
knight504 said:
Weird? How so?

And the Kumo kidnapping was disappointing. She acted like a civilian; I would have preferred it if she'd simply been knocked out and hadn't seen it coming.
Because it doesn't mesh well with what we know - i.e she was slated to be the next Kyuubi container.

Her considering herself an outsider/ others considering her one was understandable, but the idea that she didn't think anyone would come for her when she knows her role for the future is strange.

Unless she didn't know her role at that time, which begs the question, when was she told.

That was strange to me, not the idea itself.

And yeah, I would have preferred her being sneak attacked or even going down kicking and screaming, not running away like she was. Then again, if she was just made genin and this was her first encounter with foriegn/hostile nin...
 
#67
Then again, if she was just made genin and this was her first encounter with foriegn/hostile nin...
Let's remember the Rookie 9s are a bunch of ungodly monsters, WAAAAAAAAAAAY too much overpowered for fresh genin.
 

roting_CORPSE

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#68
ankokudaishogun said:
Then again, if she was just made genin and this was her first encounter with foriegn/hostile nin...
Let's remember the Rookie 9s are a bunch of ungodly monsters, WAAAAAAAAAAAY too much overpowered for fresh genin.
doubt it, only Team 7 was shown to have engaged shinobi above their rank, and most of the fighting was done by their Sensei Kakashi.

Haku we can assume to be at the very least chuunin level and he was just running circles on both naruto and sasuke until naruto went berserk.

sound four themselves were nearly tagged by two jounin/chuunin so aside from kimimaro the rest of them are barely hitting on chuunin unless they go stage 2 curse seal, even then they are still a bunch of 13-15 year olds that I doubt orochimaru taught more than to hit hard and fast.

barring cases like naruto and gaara and curse sealed sasuke the rookie 9 were just your average genin.

and shikamaru was the luckiest of them all since someone always saves his ass just in the nick of time.

so Kushina running away from what 3-4 chuunin or jounin would be understandable.
 

Shirotsume

Not The Goddamn @dmin
#69
roting_CORPSE said:
ankokudaishogun said:
Then again, if she was just made genin and this was her first encounter with foriegn/hostile nin...
Let's remember the Rookie 9s are a bunch of ungodly monsters, WAAAAAAAAAAAY too much overpowered for fresh genin.
doubt it, only Team 7 was shown to have engaged shinobi above their rank, and most of the fighting was done by their Sensei Kakashi.

Haku we can assume to be at the very least chuunin level and he was just running circles on both naruto and sasuke until naruto went berserk.

sound four themselves were nearly tagged by two jounin/chuunin so aside from kimimaro the rest of them are barely hitting on chuunin unless they go stage 2 curse seal, even then they are still a bunch of 13-15 year olds that I doubt orochimaru taught more than to hit hard and fast.

barring cases like naruto and gaara and curse sealed sasuke the rookie 9 were just your average genin.

and shikamaru was the luckiest of them all since someone always saves his ass just in the nick of time.

so Kushina running away from what 3-4 chuunin or jounin would be understandable.
So wrong it hurts.
 

roting_CORPSE

Well-Known Member
#71
Masterly said:
Shirotsume said:
roting_CORPSE said:
curse sealed sasuke the rookie 9 were just your average genin.
Sasuke? Average genin?
:no: I said barring cases like Gaara, naruto AND Curse Seal Sasuke.

of course any ecounter we see with sasuke before getting tagged by Orochimaru he was getting his ass handed to him.

he tried to put up a fight with the brothers before meeting with zabusa but kakashi did much of the work.

kakashi himself apprehended sasuke no problem on several occasions.

orochimaru was playing with him before tagging him with the cursed seal.

zabusa and haku fights were so onesided it hurts and again most of the work fell to kakashi and a little bit to naruto, sasuke serve as a goddamn pincushion to haku's senbons.

also @ shirotsume I'd like to see your counter argument.
 

Knyght

The Collector
#72
The entire Rookie 9 made it through the first two parts of the Chuunin Exam despite it being their first time, against god-knows how many older genin with more experience. The only one who's actually a "normal" rookie genin would be Sakura; average chakra, average physical ability and only the three academy jutsu.

Whilst calling them "ungodly monsters" is an exaggeration, the Rookie 9 are far above average genin.
 

Juopunumies

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#73
The "average genin" are the mooks we see Team 8 dispose of with their net trap in the Forest of Death. I'd say that all of the Rookie 9 (and Team Gai) are hitting the chuunin mark power-wise, with Sakura and Ino being the possible exceptions.
 

Masterly

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#74
roting_CORPSE said:
Masterly said:
Shirotsume said:
roting_CORPSE said:
curse sealed sasuke the rookie 9 were just your average genin.
Sasuke? Average genin?
:no: I said barring cases like Gaara, naruto AND Curse Seal Sasuke.

of course any ecounter we see with sasuke before getting tagged by Orochimaru he was getting his ass handed to him.

he tried to put up a fight with the brothers before meeting with zabusa but kakashi did much of the work.

kakashi himself apprehended sasuke no problem on several occasions.

orochimaru was playing with him before tagging him with the cursed seal.

zabusa and haku fights were so onesided it hurts and again most of the work fell to kakashi and a little bit to naruto, sasuke serve as a goddamn pincushion to haku's senbons.

also @ shirotsume I'd like to see your counter argument.
And I'm saying that regular non-curse seal Sasuke is hitting the chunin levels for power ranks even as a genin. They may not be capable of taking out Kakashi and Zabuza, elite jounin, but they are very capable of beating 'average' genin and potentially capable of beating a chunin rank ninja.

Every Rookie 9 team reached the Chunin exam prelims. this is to the exclusion of every other Leaf genin team barring Kabuto's team. Wasn't the exam primarily being taken by Leaf genin? They beat all those veteran genin and then sent half of their remaining number to the finals. We take it for granted but damn, I would that's pretty impressive for first time test takers.
 

Ashaman

Well-Known Member
#75
Masterly said:
roting_CORPSE said:
Masterly said:
Shirotsume said:
roting_CORPSE said:
curse sealed sasuke the rookie 9 were just your average genin.
Sasuke? Average genin?
:no: I said barring cases like Gaara, naruto AND Curse Seal Sasuke.

of course any ecounter we see with sasuke before getting tagged by Orochimaru he was getting his ass handed to him.

he tried to put up a fight with the brothers before meeting with zabusa but kakashi did much of the work.

kakashi himself apprehended sasuke no problem on several occasions.

orochimaru was playing with him before tagging him with the cursed seal.

zabusa and haku fights were so onesided it hurts and again most of the work fell to kakashi and a little bit to naruto, sasuke serve as a goddamn pincushion to haku's senbons.

also @ shirotsume I'd like to see your counter argument.
And I'm saying that regular non-curse seal Sasuke is hitting the chunin levels for power ranks even as a genin. They may not be capable of taking out Kakashi and Zabuza, elite jounin, but they are very capable of beating 'average' genin and potentially capable of beating a chunin rank ninja.

Every Rookie 9 team reached the Chunin exam prelims. this is to the exclusion of every other Leaf genin team barring Kabuto's team. Wasn't the exam primarily being taken by Leaf genin? They beat all those veteran genin and then sent half of their remaining number to the finals. We take it for granted but damn, I would that's pretty impressive for first time test takers.
You forgot to mention Guys team.

And no, its not that impressive for first time test takers. But it's fucking impressive for teams that have, what, 3-5 months worth of experience and no more than 2 or 3 C-Rank missions under their belts.

And finally, one more thing. Preliminaries don't usually exist. They were only introduced because there were so many Genin who got through the forest.

By all rights, each of those teams should have been in the Third round.

And then you have to consider the foriegn teams, Sound and Sand, who were probably a bit of a plant and had Gaara respectively. There's decent reason to suspect that none of them were actually properly genin.
 
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