What games are you playing 2: The revenge

GenocideHeart · Jan 21, 2011

Crusader said:

I should probably go on record as saying that what I hate about elves tends to be either

1) them being Mary Sues who are never ever wrong (a certain book by a certain author helped a lot with this particular hatred. I'm sure you all know what I mean. It's also where my genocidal tendencies towards elves come from...)

or

2) them being the Designated Victims that no one has sympathy for in-game, whom somehow I am expected to like no matter how or why they ended up as designated victims.

I don't mind wood elves that are more or less just another race, with their own quirks but ultimately basically just tall, beautiful pointy eared humans with hippie lifestyles. I also don't mind Drow because for all that they are at the mercy of a cruel goddess, they are also sadistic sociopaths even when they ESCAPE said goddess's grasp (Drizzt is the exception, not the rule... most surface Drow aren't nearly as pleasant), so they are hardly Designated Victims and more or less deserve their lot in life.

In the Orlesian Empire, anyone who isn't part of the Game of Intrigue is a property. Or a disposable pawn. It's just that most don't know it yet. Elves are hardly the ones most oppressed in Orlais - anyone who doesn't have power is in the shitter along with them.

grant · Jan 21, 2011

Okay, got past Darkside in Re-coded. I think I have to change my opinion a bit. The customization part isn't that bad (though I still have to question why they would make it like that instead of something much more practical) and I will admit that it's nice to just wait for skills to recharge but the combat isn't fun. I can't quite pin down why but for some reason 358/2 really felt more fluid than Re-coded (although I still vastly prefer Birth by Sleep to either). Also I have to wonder why the hell Darkside is a three stage boss. He's the first boss, why would you make him one that you need to kill three times?

core_88 · Jan 21, 2011

Okay how about this don't think about them as elves because to me they're not like most elves i have read about, and really they're not worse than any other race.
Remember all humans are pretty content leaving the dwarves to their fate at the hands of the darkspawn when there's no blight going on.

GenocideHeart · Jan 21, 2011

core_88 said:

That's because 1) Dwarves keep Darkspawn in the tunnels and 2) even the most insane human knows better than to get involved with those pint-sized, partially magic-immune, backstab-prone xenophobic sociopaths.

core_88 · Jan 21, 2011

So basically you hate all elves with the passion of a thousand fiery suns i get it.

GenocideHeart · Jan 21, 2011

core_88 said:

There ARE elves I like. For instance, all elves in the Elder Scrolls Oblivion I tend to like because none of them are Mary Sueish or Designated Victims - nobody likes Dunmer, but Dunmer do nothing to make themselves appealing, Bosmer can be psychopaths (did you know cannibalism is accepted in their culture?), and Altmer tend to only be prideful about their ability to learn things - which is something they can rightfully brag about, as they ARE that damn good at magic, at the cost of also being extra flammable/shockable/freezable as well. :snigger:

The fact most Altmer are level headed even when insane and can be talked and reasoned with helps. Even that mage in the Zero Visibility quest can be reasoned with, and he's a loon.

Hell, you can even debate with Mankar Camoran and Mannimarco. They will still try to kill you, but they are rather suave debaters in the meanwhile.

MangoPDK · Jan 21, 2011

The best part of this thread is the lack of LR. Imagine how that "Did the elves deserve it" conversation would have gone if he were here.

Crusader · Jan 21, 2011

GenocideHeart said:

In your statements regarding your first example I get the feeling that the author ruined his own series with that stunt. Maybe that's why there was only one film adaptation and that was of the first book.

Doesn't Bioware give you the choice to act out as if you don't have much sympathy towards elves, despite being the designated victims?

When it comes to elves I tend to be partial to the elves from Elfquest. I found it ironic that in the backstory it was revealed that Bearclaw and in a minor sense Strongbow were responsible for reigniting human-elf conflict Bearclaw's sire Mantricker and the human Demontricker had tried to prevent years ago. A lot of deaths, as well as the creation of Madcoil, could have been prevented had Bearclaw just remembered what happened in the past; instead leaving the mess for his son Cutter to deal with and that things had already spiralled so much out of control that the crazy shaman decided burning down the forest was a good idea (probably explains why he was also partially responsible for the creation of Madcoil).

Aegis · Jan 21, 2011

Ok Soooo Playing DC Online, FUCK YES GOT SPEED FORCE =D

/Shiver/ I rather go against the Boss of the Shivering Isles barehanded on Oblivion than listen to him rant

Avider · Jan 21, 2011

Valkyrie Profile: Covenant of the Plume

Again. I must have logged 200 hours into that game.

This time, I rebeat the A path accidentally. I didn't realize that I didn't sacrifice anybody until OH SHI-! GARM!

Because I was building my party to beat the Valkyrie, a relatively easy final boss, I was not prepared for the Pale Flames [unholy magic damage] or Garm herself [74k HP >< ]

There's actually a funny story here:

During the first part of the fight, my party consisted of Cheripha, Wylfred, Natalia, and Ushio. Note, none of them are mages, so I didn't have Might Reinforce or Sap Guard.

All four of them together can barely, just barely manage to kill one Pale Flame. Except one time. For some reason or another, a Pale Flame survived my 4 person barrage and then unloaded a can of whoopass on me. Cheripha and Wylfred died during the counter-attack, and my turn ended.

Here's the situation:

I have two party members left. Natalia, and Ushio. Both are low hp, low enough that just a single Pale Flame would be enough to kill them during the enemy's turn. There are TWO Pale Flames alive.

Now, people who play CotP would know that the number of party members the enemy can kill is directly related to the number of enemies the other side have available to attack.

I have two party members. They have two enemies able to hit both party members. The math is: 2-2 = 0

Basically I was like, "OH SHI OH SHI I AM DEAD!"

Pale Flame 1 attack Natalia with Pale Flame 2. Natalia dies INSTANTLY.

Pale Flame 2 attacks Ushio with Pale Flame 1.

Time to hit the reset button, game over right?

Oh, no way. MAGIC MAIL!

That's right, Ushio blocked all six magic attacks.

And then he countered Pale Flame 1, the PF that was almost dead from the last barrage, and killed it dead.

Ushio was the man.

grant · Jan 21, 2011

Crusader said:

It wasn't the treatment of elves in Paolini's work that was the problem. The problem was A. the fact that it was blatantly taking its ideas from other works* and B. had poor execution. Check a site named Eragon Sporkings for a full list, and as a note I actually read the Eragon series and can attest that Paolini actually did write those things.

As for the movie...the elves are of so little importance that there's nothing they could ruin. The problem there was the directing, acting and writing.

* Yes, I am fully aware that Star Wars took many ideas from other sources. That doesn't change the fact that Eragon simply doesn't have anything original.

Edit.
Finally got around to finishing Battle Moon Wars. Decent.

Chuckg · Jan 21, 2011

Helps if you provide a link: <a href='http://eragon-sporkings.wikispaces.com/' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>http://eragon-sporkings.wikispaces.com/</a>

Now, back to games.

Is it just me, or is Arkham Asylum deliberately fucking up the combo flow at appropriate intervals? I can't imagine why the hell the game keeps having me spin kick the dude with his stun baton out rather than the dude standing six (or more) feet away from him, especially when I have the screen centered on dude #2. Punch, punch, punch, combo streak starts, counter the dude coming up alongside me, punch him, and then attack... no, dammit, not the stun baton guy! The other guy! The other guy right there! Instead you sent me halfway across the goddamn map to hit the one guy I wanted to leave for last! AGAIN! Did that to me three times in a gorram row. PC version.

And, of course, hitting a guy with a stun baton from the front means you take damage and lose your streak; *bam*, no Dark Knight bonus, no Perfect Knight bonus, no Perfect Freeflow bonus, and definitely no hope of making 18,000+ on that particular challenge.

Bill Felix · Jan 21, 2011

Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney

It's a lot different from the other ones...

GenocideHeart · Jan 21, 2011

grant said:

Crusader said:

It wasn't the treatment of elves in Paolini's work that was the problem. The problem was A. the fact that it was blatantly taking its ideas from other works* and B. had poor execution. Check a site named Eragon Sporkings for a full list, and as a note I actually read the Eragon series and can attest that Paolini actually did write those things.

As for the movie...the elves are of so little importance that there's nothing they could ruin. The problem there was the directing, acting and writing.

* Yes, I am fully aware that Star Wars took many ideas from other sources. That doesn't change the fact that Eragon simply doesn't have anything original.

Edit.
Finally got around to finishing Battle Moon Wars. Decent.

Paolini is a hack anyway. Seriously, he tries to pass off as perfectly legitimate a lot of actions that would have made the Dragon Age Tevinter stare in appalled disgust.

Back to games. Mass Effect 2. I'll be over there lacking social life for a while.

Chaos341 · Jan 21, 2011

Can't wait to get some spare cash so I can get ME2 now that its out on PS3. (My PC is a shitty laptop that barely runs Fallout 3 on minimum settings)

GenocideHeart · Jan 21, 2011

Chaos341 said:

...Your laptop is actually better than mine... :huh!:

Chaos341 · Jan 21, 2011

GenocideHeart said:

You rolling with some 1997 laptop you got from your job and they didn't want back or something?

GenocideHeart · Jan 21, 2011

Chaos341 said:

GenocideHeart said:

You rolling with some 1997 laptop you got from your job and they didn't want back or something?

It's a Toshiba from 2005 that can barely run KotOR. :snigger:

Chaos341 · Jan 21, 2011

GenocideHeart said:

Chaos341 said:

It's a Toshiba from 2005 that can barely run KotOR. :snigger:

At least it doesn't murder your power supply like my desktop did before I said fuck it.

A Curious Stranger · Jan 21, 2011

Deus Ex in China. No idea what to do. I shot a cop with my silenced pistol to see what would happen in complete stealth.

Alarms everywhere, robots shooting me, a dozen cops shooting me.

Man, Majestic 12 should hire these guys.

And I'm debating which weapon to keep. GEP gun or Plasma Rifle? Both take up obscene amounts of space.

Legacy|iB · Jan 21, 2011

A Curious Stranger said:

Go for the GEP. The plasma rifle is only really good against organics, but you'll likely have a ton of other weapons to use against them, which will take less space in your inventory and will have more ammunition for. Considering the required space for the plasma rifle, its classification as a heavy weapon, and how difficult it is to find ammunition, the plasma rifle isn't worth lugging around.

The GEP gun, on the other hand, is great against mechanical targets like bots. True, you can still hack security terminals to shutdown or turn bots and cameras, or use LAMs and EMP, but the GEP's range and lock on makes it easier.

roting_CORPSE · Jan 22, 2011

Finally Got Dragon Age Origins Ultimate Edition

and Batman Arkham Asylum Game of the Year Edition.

akun50 · Jan 22, 2011

I'm trying out League of Legends. I'm already a level 5 summoner and I've done pretty well with Ashe and Sona (yeah, bought her).

I sucked hard when I tried Garren, even though I thought I would be better as a tank. NOPE. Died 14 times as Garren in the trial battles against bots (1 assist and 3 kills), whereas, with Ashe, I only died 2 times, got 10 kills and 0 assists.

When I actually took it the game, I wasn't too bad, though we steamrolled the first opponents, lost against the second (I blame myself for the fact that I was still new, and am still clumsy on item purchase in-match, though the way those guys were using Nunu and Caitlyn were playing perfectly for those characters... makes me think that they weren't exactly newbies. <_< ) and EVENTUALLY won the third match, which I played with Sona and did fairly well.

My record with Sona, which is entirely from a single battle, is 5 kills, 12 deaths and 12 assists, so much better than I did in my test battle with Garren.

roting_CORPSE · Jan 23, 2011

any tips for Human Warrior in Dragon Age Origins?

just started today.

OniGanon · Jan 23, 2011

Just my opinion here...

I think the best tank is actually a 2h build. This is due to the Indomitable sustained ability, which makes you immune to most knockdowns and stuns. Combine this with Knight Commander Plate (available in Frostback Mountains) and Spellward (party camp I think...) and a little more spell resist gear/runes, and you become immune to most disables. Use Taunt, Smite (Templar ability) and 2h powers to keep aggro through high damage. A generous health pool and one or two healers in party, and you should be okay with survivability.

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