WTF! Comics?

shinzero01

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GenocideHeart said:
Lord Raine said:
There aren't guys who could kick his ass in the Justice League. Batfans gonna Batbitch, but as an elder Batfag, I say they're doing it wrong. Low-power Batman is Best Batman, and pretending that he stands a chance in hell against the Son of Krypton in anything approaching a non-Satanically Rigged fight is just stupid. If Superman wanted to win, or worse, wanted to kill Batman, he would, and there's nothing Batman could do about it.

The only person who stands a chance is Wally, or whoever is being Flash at the time. That's basically it. Flash and that's all.
Plastic Man, too. Batman brought him in the JL specifically as a counter in case Supes goes evil. His powerset may look stupid, but he's actually severely broken, as his abilities far exceed Mr. Fantastic's or other plastic-type heroes.
The problem with Plastic Man is that while his powers are broken and he's invulnerable and immortal, you can permanently incapacitate him. It would be really easy for Supes to do that too. It really comes down to how the confrontation between the two starts, which applies to just about every Superhero battle.
 

ksho

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TC_Hazard said:
I'm okay with it. Captain Universe's power varies depending on what the Uni-Power requires him/her to do (from the underwhelming one in Annihilation to the guy that almost killed Juggernaut); so there is a plot legitimate reason for his power to vary.
I see...so it's like a weaker version of the Counterforce? A self-regulating power source that'll give the user just enough power to counter the threat its faced with?

On a side note, the number of heavy hitters on this new Avengers team is ridiculous. Aside from the aforementioned Captain Universe,...there's Captain Marvel, Hyperion, Thor AND the Hulk. Add on the dozen or so other Avengers with such varying power sets that it's hard to imagine anything being able to stand up to the team.

It's like Marvel's version of the JLU in comic form.
 

shinzero01

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ksho said:
TC_Hazard said:
I'm okay with it. Captain Universe's power varies depending on what the Uni-Power requires him/her to do (from the underwhelming one in Annihilation to the guy that almost killed Juggernaut); so there is a plot legitimate reason for his power to vary.
I see...so it's like a weaker version of the Counterforce?

A self-regulating power source that'll give the user just enough power to counter the threat its faced with?
Well its Self-Regulating in that the writers haven't actually established any limits to its power and tend to just use it however they feel like using it. Personally, I'd consider it as being similar to the Silver Surfer when he's in full Herald mode and duking it out with cosmic entities. At least that is the kind of tier it should be on.
It hops around users like some mix between the Phoenix Force and a Symbiote though.
 

TC_Hazard

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GenocideHeart said:
Lord Raine said:
There aren't guys who could kick his ass in the Justice League. Batfans gonna Batbitch, but as an elder Batfag, I say they're doing it wrong. Low-power Batman is Best Batman, and pretending that he stands a chance in hell against the Son of Krypton in anything approaching a non-Satanically Rigged fight is just stupid. If Superman wanted to win, or worse, wanted to kill Batman, he would, and there's nothing Batman could do about it.

The only person who stands a chance is Wally, or whoever is being Flash at the time. That's basically it. Flash and that's all.
Plastic Man, too. Batman brought him in the JL specifically as a counter in case Supes goes evil. His powerset may look stupid, but he's actually severely broken, as his abilities far exceed Mr. Fantastic's or other plastic-type heroes.
Martian Manhunter could beat him too* On account of being able to do everything Superman does plus all the extra powers. The only advantage Clark has in that match up is his heat vision.

Also, Kyle when Geoff Johns is not pretending Hal Jordan is the best Lantern ever, especially back when he was Ion. Guy was insane back then.


*Just so we're clear, talking Post Crisis Superman here, not the stupid (but amusing) Pre Crisis.

Edit: And speaking of Kyle:



My inner fanboy is so damn happy right now.
 

ragnarok1337

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There's an awesome picture from a Black Lantern's POV during Blackest Night. We see a shot of Superman as he's flying at the undead Lantern. In a Black Lantern's sight, everyone glows a different color based on their emotions at the time. Superman? Is glowing with the ENTIRE emotional spectrum. Except orange.



Look at the bottom right panel
 

shinzero01

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GenocideHeart said:
No Compassion either. Guess Supes was done with that.
As he should. Zombies don't deserve mercy.

Except maybe the Witches from Left4Dead 2 in that level full of them. Startling one can cause a chain reaction...
 
There's ONE time I can remember where Supes actually went homicidal. Kingdom Come. And it showed exactly why making him murderously angry is a horrible idea. He more or less steamrolled over the combined world military forces like they were wet paper on his way to trying to dismember the UN people who decided to drop a nuke on the superheroes.

Well, there's also 'Whatever happened to the Man of Tomorrow', where he went apeshit when Lana Lang was killed and very nearly atomized the culprits with heat vision alone, prompting them to run the fuck away back to the future. As if that'd have stopped Superman had he decided to pursue. They're lucky he had bigger fish to fry.

Bottom line: don't make Superman actually want to kill you. You really, really, really aren't going to like - or survive - the result.
 
If I recall correctly during that period between Crises the reason Supes didn't go for killing was because he had to execute a trio of Phantom Zone criminals who'd killed off the population of an alternate pocket Earth, and he decided he never ever wanted to do that again. I don't think that's still in continuity though as it was basically teh capper on some stuff they were doing to explain why the Legion of Superheroes kept existing when Classic Superboy didn't anymore after the original Crisis
 

ragnarok1337

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Not sure where to put this, but what are your opinions of the New 52 Superman's outfit compared to the original? It's similar, but with darker colors and gets rid of the Underwear of Power. Also, his signature "S" is a bit less curved and more angular. Superman's costume in the upcoming Man of Steel film looks like it will feature the New 52 outfit.
 

Darksnider05

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ragnarok1337 said:
Not sure where to put this, but what are your opinions of the New 52 Superman's outfit compared to the original? It's similar, but with darker colors and gets rid of the Underwear of Power. Also, his signature "S" is a bit less curved and more angular. Superman's costume in the upcoming Man of Steel film looks like it will feature the New 52 outfit.
It looks like Armor which I'm really cool with and it still maintains the inspiring colors that people can relate to Superman.

Now only if his Armor would no sell Green rocks.
 

TC_Hazard

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ragnarok1337 said:
Not sure where to put this, but what are your opinions of the New 52 Superman's outfit compared to the original? It's similar, but with darker colors and gets rid of the Underwear of Power. Also, his signature "S" is a bit less curved and more angular. Superman's costume in the upcoming Man of Steel film looks like it will feature the New 52 outfit.
I like the old one better to be honest. It's slightly goofy and all, but it really fits with what Superman is supposed to be.
 

Ordo

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Actually, the new costume is the one thing I don't have a problem with. It's different but I put it on the same level as his old suit.
 

TC_Hazard

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Not from the main continuity (and Thank God for that. Can't say that enough). Tie-in prequel to the Injustice God Among us game, to explain why Superman is the way he is in the games.

Doesn't even begin to explain how the Joker is alive for the game though.

Cash cow powers are really the best powers it seems.
 
Is anyone else as sick of the damn Joker as I am? I mean at this point he's back and he's pretty much single-handedly handing the Bat-family it's collective ass, killing or incapacitating multiple supporting cast members including what looked to be apparently Nightwing's ENTIRE cast, and generally making everyone and everything Bat associated look like pathetic pikers! I'm just goddamn SICK of the Joker!
 

Meinos Kaen

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Emerald Oracle said:
Is anyone else as sick of the damn Joker as I am? I mean at this point he's back and he's pretty much single-handedly handing the Bat-family it's collective ass, killing or incapacitating multiple supporting cast members including what looked to be apparently Nightwing's ENTIRE cast, and generally making everyone and everything Bat associated look like pathetic pikers! I'm just goddamn SICK of the Joker!
Yeah, I really wasn't expecting that kind of outcome. I mean, he kicked the ass of everyone in the Batfamily. One at the time, sure, but... The only incognita left is Jason and Tim, and from the latest RHATO, he prepared a nasty surprise for the first in his helmet. Wonder about what he did for Tim.

Also, I wonder what's for fucking dinner.

But yes. The problem with villains is that after a while of them still being around, keeping on killing and maiming... And people wonder why I like Jason's methods better.
 

shinzero01

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Yeah he's basically evolved into being a villain that can do whatever he wants and succeed because he's nuts and if he fails it was just part of the joke.


Very annoying when you consider that Batman has some mastermind villains that never get utilized properly. I never did get why the Joker is essentially the only villain to really hit Batman where it hurts when his rogues gallery includes Ra's, Bane, Phantasm, Hugo Strange, etc. Even using a somewhat minor villain like the Ventriloquist could bring something original. Hell, break out Poison Ivy's sidekick from the superfriends comics or Black Mask. Or better yet, Make a New Villain.
 

Flamewolf

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joker is the one villain batman should kill. he'd be back by next issue anyway
 

Darksnider05

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Flamewolf said:
joker is the one villain batman should kill. he'd be back by next issue anyway
Joker and Lex Luthor phantom zone or death for both of them. The fact that they have the ability to jam these assholes in a super prison if they just ask for permission always boggles the mind.

One presidential order after Lex Luthor betrays earth again bam Phantom Zone forever. Joker gets the same.

It's fucking dumb status quo bull shit.
 

evilplushie

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Like the phantom zone or death would really stop Joker or Lex Luthor from coming back....
 

TC_Hazard

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Darksnider05 said:
Flamewolf said:
joker is the one villain batman should kill. he'd be back by next issue anyway
Joker and Lex Luthor phantom zone or death for both of them. The fact that they have the ability to jam these assholes in a super prison if they just ask for permission always boggles the mind.

One presidential order after Lex Luthor betrays earth again bam Phantom Zone forever. Joker gets the same.

It's fucking dumb status quo bull shit.
Hey, Luthor has class... and can actually be pretty funny which is sadly lacking in Joker these days. One of the biggest points of Joker's character is that he can do these horrible things and somehow make it charming. Sadly the last time that happened was in Brave and the Bold, when he destroyed the universe while doing a <a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iSYAV2lp5c&feature=related' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'> musical number.</a>

Luthor on the other hand is consistent in that he is incredibly petty. 'I give up ultimate power because I don't want Superman to be happy' petty. And that just makes him so damn interesting to watch.

Now some Lex,



 

Darksnider05

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Lex Luthor and his Homo Erotic obsession with Superman is such a fucking creeper.

Shit if I was Superman not even sure if I could feel comfortable in the same room with someone who stalks me so hardcore.

How many children has Lex Luthor secretly made with material from Superman combined with his own now?
 

goldenarms

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Meinos Kaen said:
But yes. The problem with villains is that after a while of them still being around, keeping on killing and maiming... And people wonder why I like Jason's methods better.
You say that like death is a permanent thing in comics.
 
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