Bleach [Bleach]Manga thoughts

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Dark_Plague

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Thread Lich comes again to save us all. :D

Well, Arroniero's dead. Rukia's not looking much better herself right now though, what with that gaping hold in her stomach and all.

Renji's fighting the 7th Espada, and Chad got his ass kicked by the Scythe-Espada..

And with the last two frames of chapter 269, Ichigo's in trouble too. I certainly wouldn't want to be the one out of the 5 to run into Ulquiorra...

Thoughts again?
 
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SimmyC

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Damn. Still haven't read that chapter yet. The two sites I go to haven't put it up yet. And I still haven't found a site to really download from. I know Bleach 7 has it, but um, that requires registering which I don't feel like doing at the moment. :p
 
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ttestagr

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SimmyC said:
Damn. Still haven't read that chapter yet. The two sites I go to haven't put it up yet. And I still haven't found a site to really download from. I know Bleach 7 has it, but um, that requires registering which I don't feel like doing at the moment. :p
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Here ya go Simmy: http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread....29&goto=newpost

I'm about to download it from there.
 
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Dark_Plague

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http://www.bleachexile.com works too. Usually the quickest to update, and high quality episodes and scanlations.

I've come to the conclusion that everyone is screwed except for Ishida, whom we have no idea what the hell is up to.

They need some backup from Rukongai, quick.
 
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zeebee1

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Either Arroniero was only in the Espada because of his potential due to his ability to absorb power through souls, or Rukia zanpakutou is obscenely powerful.
 
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Revanant Dragoon

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I'm pretty sure he said it was the first reason, rather than the second. Although... was Rukia's Zanpakuto one of the more powerful ice-type, or 'most beautiful'? I don't remember. :hmm:
 
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SimmyC

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I believe it has more to do with his potential, than his actual power. After all, he was like, number 9 right? So he was, if ranking matters, one of the 'weaker' Espadas to begin with.
 
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Dark_Plague

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Indeed. The only one weaker than him would be Yami. And we saw how quickly various shinigami made work of him.
 
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zeebee1

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Yammy was fighting Urahara, so it is no surprise he was doing so badly. Rukia was fighiting somone who was obviously weaker than Dordonii, who was ranked 103rd.
 
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Cornuthaum

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zeebee1 said:
Yammy was fighting Urahara, so it is no surprise he was doing so badly. Rukia was fighiting somone who was obviously weaker than Dordonii, who was ranked 103rd.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaroniero_Arleri

That's the one Rukia was fighting.

NINTH espada. Not weak at all. And it pains me to see him killed by RUKIA. The Haruno Sakura of Bleach.

BLARGH >_<
 
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ttestagr

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Didn't number 8 say that he had the lowest combat power of the Espada? And he's still pounding on Renji. The dude just gets no breaks.

We'll see if Rukia actually stays dead though, if she does it would be a big message about how author is going to take this title. I like Rukia, but I won't complain if she really dies.
 
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Voivod

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I'd hardly compare Rukia to the waste of flesh that is Sakura, thats just insulting.

For one before his demotion Dordonii was probably 4th espada or higher IMO maybe as low as 6th but no lower.

Also the only reason Aaroniero is even an Arrancar is because of of abillity to absorb other hollows and their powers. otherwised he'd probabally be a numeros. So it's not that hard to believe Rukia could take him... Unlike the infamoyus Sasori Sakura fight
 
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GenocideHeart

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I like Renji BECAUSE he's a jobber. The guy never gets a break, but does one hell of a job making his opponents look suitably dangerous. :lol:
 
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Maschbot

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I like Renji because of the end of his fight with Byakuya. That one panel where he blows Byakuya's swords from Kageyoshi Zenbon Sakura out of his body, and he's standing there with blood all over himself and his hair hanging loose; I thought, this guy is a bad-ass. I'd post a link to the pic, but bleachexile isn't cooperating right now.

Although... was Rukia's Zanpakuto one of the more powerful ice-type, or 'most beautiful'? I don't remember.
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They say "most beautiful," but power is beauty, yes? :snigger: I know that Toshiro's Hyorinmaru is supposed to be the strongest ice-type, like Ryujinjakka is for fire. Actually, have there even been any other fire-type zanpakutos yet?
 
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ttestagr

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Hinamori has a fire type zanpakutou.

As for the ninth Espada, he admitted he was only among them because of his ability to evolve and absorb abilities. I imagine that even Yami has more raw power than he did.
 
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Maschbot

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Like Momo Hinamori? I thought hers just condensed her spirit energy into blasts, rather than actually making fire...

I think I remember something about Rangiku having ashes in Haineko *checks wikipedia* which she does, but only in the filler arc, apparently, and even that isn't quite the same as fire, although close. You'd think that such a cleansing/destructive element would be more well represented among the zanpakutos...
 
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ttestagr

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Hinamori's can shoot fireballs, and create a fairly small explosion. Both which she tried to hit Kira with and failed.
 
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Innortal

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Yeah, the mass-o-arrancar or whatever he was that Rukia was fighting only had infinite regeneration on his side. So, unless Rukia was able to finally kill him permanently, he'll be back.

As for having the memories of her old Sempai [insert Makoto joke here] was because he absorbed the guy's spirit body, but not his soul. Sort of like Buffy vampires, which have the memories of who the body once was, but not the soul.
 
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zeebee1

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Momo's blasts are just reiatsu. It's nothing special. Just a normal energy blast.
 
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zeebee1

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What you said makes absoluetly no sense.
 
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ttestagr

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Speaking on the manga though, Ichigo is finally fighting Ulquiorra. Who seems overpowered. Ichigo is using bankai and his hollow, and his blade still won't cut him. Even his Getsuga was slowed down. Ulq isn't even transformed yet either.

What is Aizan capable of? I hope that he doesn't have equal or greater combat power to Ulq, giving him such would be a story and plot breaker.
 
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Revanant Dragoon

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What you said makes absoluetly no sense.
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Eh, I think it's about Rukia apparently kicking the bucket. Seems Simmy's AU fic isn't so AU. :rolleyes:

Speaking on the manga though, Ichigo is finally fighting Ulquiorra. Who seems overpowered. Ichigo is using bankai and his hollow, and his blade still won't cut him. Even his Getsuga was slowed down. Ulq isn't even transformed yet either.

What is Aizan capable of? I hope that he doesn't have equal or greater combat power to Ulq, giving him such would be a story and plot breaker.
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Well, the fight's just started, so I wouldn't start crying 'overpowered' just yet. Granted, that has to be the friggin' biggest Getsuga Tenshou I've seen yet, but I'd hold off judgement until we see how much damage it does to him.

And as for Aizen, unless he's a Vaizard as well, I think his power lies in that damn hypnotic power he's got, rather than raw power. I mean, seriously, with it you can't trust anything involving him.
 
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zeebee1

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He made one of the arrancar kneel just with his power alone. And his Black Coffin techniques took down a captain even though it was weakend because of the lack of an incantation.

As far as Ichigo goes there are several things to remember. It was said that his hollow's power fluctuates, so we might not have seen it's full power. I'm guessing Ichigo's rage has empower it. The problem is that last I heard it turns off after twelve seconds. Ichigo's opponent had previously stated that Ichigo may be more powerful than him. But that doesn't matter if he uses up said power before he wins.

So, Ichigo is still screwed.
 
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ttestagr

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The problem is Aizen shouldn't be that strong. At best, I would have put him at the same level as Ukitake, Shunsui, and Byakuya (remember that a horribly injured Byakuya was able to snatch Rukia out of his hands in the second between Gin firing his Shikai and it impaling Rukia.) He was definately weaker than Yamamoto. Still able to pwn normal captains like Hitsugaya and Komamura though. I'd guess that the other strong ones could do the same thing (hell, Kenpachi took on Komamura and Tousen at the same time.)

Ichigo was nearly at that same level, above it with his hollow. He couldn't maintain it of course, but he was more powerful than a regular captain in the few minutes when he first started using his bankai. Ichigo confirmed that he was weaker after his fight with Byakuya (which would be a good reason that Aizen pwned him so badly then), and it was a persistant problem for him. But it should be fixed now that he has his hollow under control.

I can understand Ulquiorra being so powerful if he turns out to be a Vast Lord (originally stronger than a normal captain automatically) who became stronger as an Arrancar. Aizen however should not be able to match that strength any more than Ichigo can. If he doesn't have hollow abilities he should have less of a chance than Ichigo. If Aizen can surpass all of the Espada with his base power, I'll be pissed off.
 
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