Nasuverse [FSN] Recommended fanfiction?

[Deathwings]

I actually meant from a narrative standpoint. That is, how much change to his character can you stomach Shirou having before your SoD snap in a fic. You know, since peoples were complaining about the fact that writers write Shirou not as himself but as Archer/Kiritsugu Lite. How far can the definition of "canon Shirou" stretch for you guys ?

 

[Kibbles]

actually... in Arthuria's case, how would that have worked? because seriously, a Servant can make their wish to the grail or they are just fancy batteries to power it up?

Normally, seven Servants go into the Grail to power the thing up so it can do its thing (that's why all Masters are advised to keep at least one Command Seal, since it would allow them to order their Servant to commit suicide and, thereby, allow them to get the Grail). The fifth war is kind of ... off, which would, theoretically, allow a Servant to make a wish and get it.

See, you have eight Servants competing for a Grail that was already full and only partially discharged at the end of the fourth war. Seven go in, one extra's left. 'Course, it comes down to the Master or the Servant getting a wish and, well, Angra Mainyu deciding how said wish gets executed (and no-one would enjoy that one, no-one ... except Kirei, but he never really had a wish; and Gilgamesh, I guess, since he was kind of a douche).

So, theoretically, Arturia could have participated in the fifth war and gotten that which she wanted, allowing the contact with Alaya to come into force. Of course, this requires Arturia to stop being Arturia, but, hey, no-one said Alaya was particularly smart or good at judging people.

 

[shioran toushin]

@ Deathwings: at the point where he actively and continuously starts to weight the worth of lives and considers Collateral Damage and Casualities as "doable", i mean the guy saved Shinji (would be willing to kill him but if there was one chance to save anyone Shirou will take it).
@Kibbles: well she also participed in the Fourth war too... but 'fulfilling' her contract would end with Counter Guardian ARTHURIA and some poor sap getting Caliburn.

 

[MastaofBitches]

@Kibbles: well she also participed in the Fourth war too... but 'fulfilling' her contract would end with Counter Guardian ARTHURIA and some poor sap getting Caliburn.

Caliburn is a damn good sword though. The job attachment it comes with however... Not so much.

 

[Kibbles]

@Kibbles: well she also participed in the Fourth war too... but 'fulfilling' her contract would end with Counter Guardian ARTHURIA and some poor sap getting Caliburn.

Well, if you believe in predestination, Arturia's participation was necessary for the Fifth War to occurr in the shape it did, which would allow a single Servant to make a single wish on the Grail. Therefore, in an optimal solution for Alaya, Arturia wins, makes a wish and becomes a Counter-Guardian.

But that removes agency from all participatns in the Fourth War and rises all those pesky free will issues ... and let's not even mention the issues of precognition.

 

[zeebee1]

I don't like Archer, but his fate was much worse than Saber's. Saber can give up on her goal and die. Archer cannot die permanently and he has to keep on killing no matter what he does. He has the worst sort of immortality.

 

[WizardOne]

I don't like Archer, but his fate was much worse than Saber's. Saber can give up on her goal and die. Archer cannot die permanently and he has to keep on killing no matter what he does. He has the worst sort of immortality.

Nah, the worst sort of immortality is 'And I cannot scream'. Archer is very close though, its a pretty horrific fate. But people can get used to anything, he could eventually just break and not care about killing anymore, then his fate becomes much less horrible.

 

[MastaofBitches]

I don't like Archer, but his fate was much worse than Saber's. Saber can give up on her goal and die. Archer cannot die permanently and he has to keep on killing no matter what he does. He has the worst sort of immortality.

Nah, the worst sort of immortality is 'And I cannot scream'. Archer is very close though, its a pretty horrific fate. But people can get used to anything, he could eventually just break and not care about killing anymore, then his fate becomes much less horrible.

I wonder how something like that would affect UBW?

 

[Kibbles]

I wonder how something like that would affect UBW?

Well, it already looks a bit like a graveyard (in fact, I'd originally thought it was, before getting a good look at the art), if you squint ... so, similar? Dampen the light into outright twilight or, better yet, night. Add a bit of howling winds, a faint layer of mist on the ground, leaving the infinite swords as silhouettes. The gears can stay, though I suppose you can alter the grinding sound into something closer to bone ... you know, the killing machine grinding endlessly on.

Cliche, I suppose, but the old ones are always the best.

These swords that have taken lives beyond counting, watching over anonymous graves, the only mark of their passing.

Or something like that.

 

[MastaofBitches]

I wonder how something like that would affect UBW?

Well, it already looks a bit like a graveyard (in fact, I'd originally thought it was, before getting a good look at the art), if you squint ... so, similar? Dampen the light into outright twilight or, better yet, night. Add a bit of howling winds, a faint layer of mist on the ground, leaving the infinite swords as silhouettes. The gears can stay, though I suppose you can alter the grinding sound into something closer to bone ... you know, the killing machine grinding endlessly on.

Cliche, I suppose, but the old ones are always the best.

These swords that have taken lives beyond counting, watching over anonymous graves, the only mark of their passing.

Or something like that.

That's rather eerie... I like it!

 

[lhklan]

I wonder how something like that would affect UBW?

Well, it already looks a bit like a graveyard (in fact, I'd originally thought it was, before getting a good look at the art), if you squint ... so, similar? Dampen the light into outright twilight or, better yet, night. Add a bit of howling winds, a faint layer of mist on the ground, leaving the infinite swords as silhouettes. The gears can stay, though I suppose you can alter the grinding sound into something closer to bone ... you know, the killing machine grinding endlessly on.

Cliche, I suppose, but the old ones are always the best.

These swords that have taken lives beyond counting, watching over anonymous graves, the only mark of their passing.

Or something like that.

Adding on to this: There's already a faint layer of fog in Archer's UBW, so just amps that up a bit. Add a couple of cracks and rusts on the gears. The swords remains the same, but with a few blotches of red on their blade.

 

[MastaofBitches]

I thought it was smoke in Archer's? You, like from a forge?

 

[ksho]

I'd like to recommend:
Heroes of Justice

Basically, it's a fic about the Fate franchise characters being your standard conventional superheroes. (Warning! the CRACK is strong in this one...:lol

 

[Devilsky]

So I'm just going to drop this here.
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/9549963/1/One-Punch-Shirou

 

[blabla1994]

Best idea.

 

[BukkakeNoJutsu]

So I'm just going to drop this here.
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/9549963/1/One-Punch-Shirou

This is so good, it's gone retarded.

 

[daniel_gudman]

So I'm just going to drop this here.
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/9549963/1/One-Punch-Shirou

This is so good, it's gone retarded.

Eeeh... it was okay.

I mean, it was funny, but 95% of that was from cribbing ONE's jokes, it's not like this fanfiction itself is really bringing anything to the table.

 

[Inaba]

I preferred One Punch Man without the imitation Nasu coating.

 

[shiki]

OPM and FSN are good, separately. Together... not so much. It is like putting peanut butter on top of kimchi ramen.

 

[zeebee1]

Characters that can beat up God don't usually mesh well in most stories.

 

[PCHeintz72]

Out of curiosity, has anyone read a story called 'Fate-history break' by TimeForced?

Came across it in passing and was wondering if it was any good. A Fate/Stay Night and History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi crossover story.

TMFSN-HSDK 'Fate-History break' by TimeForced
- [Direct] http://www.fanfiction.net/s/9394684/1/Fate-history-break

 

[daniel_gudman]

Ehh... how can I put it?

On one hand, it's like, F/SN is hard to cross over with anything Shounen, because the aesthetics are so different. Like, HSDK is about people that kung fu battle for the hell of it; whereas FSN is full of vampires and evil people that massacre people for food.

On the other hand it's a straight-forward and simple execution?

I guess the problem is that I don't really think the author is trying to merge the [Secret Martial Arts World] with the [Moonlight World]. Like, if we think about Miu's backstory, shouldn't she have thick demonic blood?

Also, it cribbed from HSDK and made it out like Shirou has no talent for martial arts; his Origin is sword, for cryin' out loud, he's literally a Human Weapon; he's probably in the top 1% of the population when it comes to natural inclination.

So it could be good, but it looks like it's just replacing Kenichi with Shirou, rather than really merging the two series, or rather the two settings, together.

I think once the author tries to do that it will be painful to watch.

 

[zeebee1]

I'm pretty sure Shirou's structural grasp does no allow him to copy the physical skills of actual people. I mean, I know you're going that route in regards to swords. But Sakaki is not a sword. If Shirou could do things like that then advancing that form of magecraft would negate the need for teachers.

 

[daniel_gudman]

Yeah that was...

Well, it's a few different kind of problems with the story all at once, and it didn't really bug me for those reasons particularly.

Like... using Structural Grasp to examine someone's body and determine how exactly they're standing, what angle their joints are at and how their weight is distributed and stuff, I think that's what the author was going for, and that's different than using it as, like, a psychic power to simply copypasta their skills into your head. It's like having a perfect photograph to study at your leisure rather than downloading the textbook into your brain for instant mastery. So I'm willing to give the author the benefit of the doubt on that.

No I had two other problems with that.

1) Shirou never used SG on himself in the game. Even when he was injured, or after recovering completely after getting miraculously, mysteriously reconstructed by Avalon, he never diagnosed his condition with SG. So the whole "using it on himself" seemed to me a weak justification for what the author was trying to accomplish.

So that struck me as a way to just give Shirou a Powerup, when the author kept the "completely untalented" thing from Kenichi even though it completely doesn't fit Shirou. So it was fixing a problem that shouldn't even have been there.

2) It required using magic on a muggle. That was the biggest thing. A super-duper martial artist is like, the kind of person most likely to notice if you're threading magic through them like Shirou did. This was a way too casual use of magecraft. Shirou takes the masquerade seriously because he doesn't want to get hammered by Enforcers like his dad warned him about, so that kind of blaise disregard of the Most Important Rule of Magic was out of character.

Actually, I was surprised that the author had Shirou move out, rather than insisting that he continue to live in his house for the sake of protecting his daily practice in his Workshop.

So that bothered me for different reasons than you.

 

[Tsuki_CB]

if we think about Miu's backstory, shouldn't she have thick demonic blood?

Not really. She's more a product of a VERY strong eugenics program than anything else.

Still, I'll read a chapter or two more, for the sheer hope it gets better.