Harry Potter [Harry Potter]Miscellaneous ideas topic.
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This GoF plot idea. I want to read this, so badly...
Tahnks to Internet Arguments, I'm looking over the Harry Potter books again for the first time in a long time.
One thing I caught was that the Weasley Family, after hearing "Excuse me..." immediately admits the existence of Hogwarts to a total stranger. Now, assuming that this wasn't an evil conspiracy to bind Harry to the Light for the Greater Good, it means that wizards are very, very daft.
Let's assume this isn't unusual. That every once in a while, some idiot wizard accidentally leaks the secret to some random passerby. At least some of them are going to be curious about this "Hogwarts" place, and play along long enough to get on to the train.
There are no tickets, so no one catches on until the Sorting Ceremony at the earliest. Given that peopel can apparently pass classes with a mismatched and even broken wand, it wouldn't surprise me oif a few intelligent muggles managed to pass classes enough to get through the first few years without incident, especially if they take non casting classes, like Care of Magical Creatures, Divination, Herbology, Hostory of Magic, and the like. Not much of a caster, but I'll be damned if they don't know their theory!
Not even much of a stretch, given that a DADA teacher can't even handle pixies, a 2nd year threat.
Just like the idea that due to wizard idiocy, one or two muggles attend Hogwarts every year with none of them the wiser. For those in control, smuggling a kid into Hogwarts might be a necessity, if their child is planned to rule Britain as Prime Minister in the future!
Thoughts?
One thing I caught was that the Weasley Family, after hearing "Excuse me..." immediately admits the existence of Hogwarts to a total stranger. Now, assuming that this wasn't an evil conspiracy to bind Harry to the Light for the Greater Good, it means that wizards are very, very daft.
Let's assume this isn't unusual. That every once in a while, some idiot wizard accidentally leaks the secret to some random passerby. At least some of them are going to be curious about this "Hogwarts" place, and play along long enough to get on to the train.
There are no tickets, so no one catches on until the Sorting Ceremony at the earliest. Given that peopel can apparently pass classes with a mismatched and even broken wand, it wouldn't surprise me oif a few intelligent muggles managed to pass classes enough to get through the first few years without incident, especially if they take non casting classes, like Care of Magical Creatures, Divination, Herbology, Hostory of Magic, and the like. Not much of a caster, but I'll be damned if they don't know their theory!
Not even much of a stretch, given that a DADA teacher can't even handle pixies, a 2nd year threat.
Just like the idea that due to wizard idiocy, one or two muggles attend Hogwarts every year with none of them the wiser. For those in control, smuggling a kid into Hogwarts might be a necessity, if their child is planned to rule Britain as Prime Minister in the future!
Thoughts?
In this scenario, would Muggles think of Harry as the one who screwed everything up? Once Voldemort started targeting Muggles, I don't see the government turning blind eye, and the idea that special forces in the military were killing Death Eaters left and right, until their lord and master disappeared and they went back into hiding.
Probably see a few of them buying potions to get an edge in various things in the muggle world. Liquid Luck for stocks and casinos off the top of my head. The idea that wizards are working for muggles withotu knowing it is amusing, especially since Hagrid said that was the whole reason they were in hiding.
Edit: One of the trio is replaced with Rincewind. My vote is for harry, and watching Ron and Hermione bemoan how much of a coward the Boy Who Lived is.
Probably see a few of them buying potions to get an edge in various things in the muggle world. Liquid Luck for stocks and casinos off the top of my head. The idea that wizards are working for muggles withotu knowing it is amusing, especially since Hagrid said that was the whole reason they were in hiding.
Edit: One of the trio is replaced with Rincewind. My vote is for harry, and watching Ron and Hermione bemoan how much of a coward the Boy Who Lived is.
Not really a discussion thread going any more, so I guess this will do for now.
What happens after you're revived via a Horcrux? Does the Horcrux stop functioning? Does it work like a Soul Exchange, where the person sacrificed to revive you is now trapped inside of in instead? Or does it keep working the way it was before, so it can revive you again if you die again?
Just popped into my mind when I wondered what would happen if Voldemort won in Chamber of Secrets. He makes his way in the world again, with the original Voldemort still running around. Would the diary still function? Could he leave it with some other unsuspecting kid and create a second seventeen year old Voldemort?
Partly thought up because of the entertainment value of a final battle between not Good and Evil, but between Voldemort, Tom Riddle, Another Voldemort, Lord Slytherin, Revived Original Voldemort, Snakeman!Voldemort and Tom Riddle (again, because people are dumb.), with a couple of proto!Voldemorts lurking in the shadows because why the hell not.
At that point, I think even Dumbledore would say "Fuck it!" and just leave.
What happens after you're revived via a Horcrux? Does the Horcrux stop functioning? Does it work like a Soul Exchange, where the person sacrificed to revive you is now trapped inside of in instead? Or does it keep working the way it was before, so it can revive you again if you die again?
Just popped into my mind when I wondered what would happen if Voldemort won in Chamber of Secrets. He makes his way in the world again, with the original Voldemort still running around. Would the diary still function? Could he leave it with some other unsuspecting kid and create a second seventeen year old Voldemort?
Partly thought up because of the entertainment value of a final battle between not Good and Evil, but between Voldemort, Tom Riddle, Another Voldemort, Lord Slytherin, Revived Original Voldemort, Snakeman!Voldemort and Tom Riddle (again, because people are dumb.), with a couple of proto!Voldemorts lurking in the shadows because why the hell not.
At that point, I think even Dumbledore would say "Fuck it!" and just leave.
Nothing was ever said about Horcruxes ceasing to work; in fact I think it's safe to assume they can't do so. The only thing like that which could happen, I am guessing, is that if someone had a living Horcrux (as Tom did), that Horcrux could die and presumably take the piece of soul with it. Non-living Horcruxes have to be destroyed; there is no suggestion whatsoever of them having a time-limit or anything like that. Rather defeats the purpose of them, since they're meant to keep the maker alive forever.
As for what would have happened if Tom won in the Chamber ... I think Rowling once commented on that idea and she said it would have "strengthened him greatly". But I don't know if she ever explained how.
I doubt the diary would still function if Tom permanently left its pages. He was its consciousness.
As for what would have happened if Tom won in the Chamber ... I think Rowling once commented on that idea and she said it would have "strengthened him greatly". But I don't know if she ever explained how.
I doubt the diary would still function if Tom permanently left its pages. He was its consciousness.
What if Arthur Weasley was replaced with Ron Swanson?
Came about because of a post in the Pics thread, where Hogwarts costs less than $1000 dollars a year for the whole family, dropping to under $600 a year if they made Feed and George share everything. I thought about who could have handled in better, and came up with Ron Swanson.
I think he and Bill would probably have a strained relationship, just because I don't think goblins would take well to a wizard hoarding gold, instead of giving it to them.
Probably would respect Charlie, though he would probably try to get some Dragon meat to barbeque.
Percy would be a disappointment to him, since he immediately jumps into a government job and seeks to excel at it. Then again, Percy might take after Ron a bit more, going off to do his own thing, or following in Ron's footsteps to bring down the already corrupt Ministry through obstruction.
I see him being hands off with George and Fred. They do what they do, and he respects that, even if he doesn't "get" it. Probably a hell of a lot of respect for them once they successfully start their own business.
Ron... would probably have to man up. Being his namesake, I don't see Ron Senior tolerating Ron Junior slacking off as much. At the very least, he would probably make Ron take up a job in the summers if he's not going to spend his time studying.
Ginny... tough to say. Might dote on her a bit, but might also be a bit standoffish with her as well, since he doesn't want someone to grow up soft.
Came about because of a post in the Pics thread, where Hogwarts costs less than $1000 dollars a year for the whole family, dropping to under $600 a year if they made Feed and George share everything. I thought about who could have handled in better, and came up with Ron Swanson.
I think he and Bill would probably have a strained relationship, just because I don't think goblins would take well to a wizard hoarding gold, instead of giving it to them.
Probably would respect Charlie, though he would probably try to get some Dragon meat to barbeque.
Percy would be a disappointment to him, since he immediately jumps into a government job and seeks to excel at it. Then again, Percy might take after Ron a bit more, going off to do his own thing, or following in Ron's footsteps to bring down the already corrupt Ministry through obstruction.
I see him being hands off with George and Fred. They do what they do, and he respects that, even if he doesn't "get" it. Probably a hell of a lot of respect for them once they successfully start their own business.
Ron... would probably have to man up. Being his namesake, I don't see Ron Senior tolerating Ron Junior slacking off as much. At the very least, he would probably make Ron take up a job in the summers if he's not going to spend his time studying.
Ginny... tough to say. Might dote on her a bit, but might also be a bit standoffish with her as well, since he doesn't want someone to grow up soft.
I had a stupid idea, and I can't think of a way to make it interesting, but maybe someone can make a decent crack of it.
Brazil got its own take on wereolves on its folk lore.
You see, one of the most popular variations is that when a boy is the seventh child with six older sisters he is fated to become a werewolf when he turns thirteen.
But a less known variation is of a child is the seventh one with six older siblings of the same gender.
That would just mean that, according to Brazilian folklore, Ginny Weasley becomes a werewolf right before Order of the Phoenix Goblet of Fire. Not by being bitten, but because she is the seventh and only girl of the Weasley couple.
AAAND that's it. I'm sure someone else could make a serious fic where she receives training from Lupin or something, or for a crack fic they add the part where in some regions werewolves turn not on full moons but on friday nights to give Harry an overprotective "pet" wild wolf that he only meets on fridays and he has no idea is actually a kind of werewolf.
I suppose that since Dean Thomas' actor's mom is brazilian, someone could make the leap and give the character also a brazilian relative, and he is thus the only one with any idea of Ginny's eventual fate.
Brazil got its own take on wereolves on its folk lore.
You see, one of the most popular variations is that when a boy is the seventh child with six older sisters he is fated to become a werewolf when he turns thirteen.
But a less known variation is of a child is the seventh one with six older siblings of the same gender.
That would just mean that, according to Brazilian folklore, Ginny Weasley becomes a werewolf right before Order of the Phoenix Goblet of Fire. Not by being bitten, but because she is the seventh and only girl of the Weasley couple.
AAAND that's it. I'm sure someone else could make a serious fic where she receives training from Lupin or something, or for a crack fic they add the part where in some regions werewolves turn not on full moons but on friday nights to give Harry an overprotective "pet" wild wolf that he only meets on fridays and he has no idea is actually a kind of werewolf.
I suppose that since Dean Thomas' actor's mom is brazilian, someone could make the leap and give the character also a brazilian relative, and he is thus the only one with any idea of Ginny's eventual fate.
Hm... crank it up a bit by having the Weasley family not willing to just let it go. They demand that there be a child to carry on the family name, so Arthur gets busy with Narcissa before she can marry Lucius.
Their son (let's call him Tim) is raised by Arthur, who ends up falling for Molly and things go forward as canon.
Cue hilarity when Tim tries to organize a family reunion, and make his youngest brothers BFFs.
Their son (let's call him Tim) is raised by Arthur, who ends up falling for Molly and things go forward as canon.
Cue hilarity when Tim tries to organize a family reunion, and make his youngest brothers BFFs.
Crack side idea- Arthur is clearly good at his marital duties, and Narcissa accidentally makes it rather clear to upper society that she would have had a far more... fulfilling life had she not been required to end up with Lucius.
As a side effect, Arthur receives significantly more respect from the men of the ministry, Molly is a far more popular person to invite for 'gossip' in high society parties, and Lucius's political capital is overshadowed by quiet chuckles nudge nudge.
As a side effect, Arthur receives significantly more respect from the men of the ministry, Molly is a far more popular person to invite for 'gossip' in high society parties, and Lucius's political capital is overshadowed by quiet chuckles nudge nudge.
Hermione becomes possessed trying to figure out why wizards & witches raised in the magical world has such flawed logic. She becomes famous for discovering the harm putting children to sleep magically does to their development, especially when that had become the norm to prevent getting woken up in the middle of the night by a crying baby.
She becomes ??? when 10 years later non-muggle born students at Hogwarts all prove to be dramatically more powerful magically than their muggle born counterparts.
She becomes ??? when 10 years later non-muggle born students at Hogwarts all prove to be dramatically more powerful magically than their muggle born counterparts.
The Lovegood family is caretaker for a clan of Aeslin Mice.